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I'm going to assume that you've never had any sociology classes? The wisdom of a crowd is biased and it is much easier to manipulate. They are a lot of ways for one to manipulate a crowd to agree with a controversial idea, thus we should not rely on the crowd's 'wisdom' to pick the right way forward (Core or XT as an example, in this scenario). Crowd manipulation is often used in politics and business. Here's a example of a technique: To get a crowd to agree to a controversial idea (e.g. blacklisting), you first start talking about things that the crowd agrees with or believes in. This way you are starting to build up trust, and then you can proceed to start talking about the more disagreeable stuff. There was actually a good study about this not long ago.

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So back to the topic now. Obviously many have appealed to authority in this debate, which is wrong. Just because someone has a strong position or reputation, that doesn't necessarily mean that what they are preaching is probably correct. The argument from authority is not a logical argument. The problem is that people are not seeing the obvious and are being manipulated. XT has implemented a few other things that they present as "features" and people are buying it. I'm pretty sure that Hearn would be able to sell you blacklisting in the future if XT was to take off (which is problematic).
This is why it is necessary to try and have a healthy discussion and keep the ad hominem and similar nonsense aside, else we will not be moving forward.

You're thinking of a mob, I said crowd.
Augur is going to make millions off the crowd.

No kiddin. Wisdom of the crowd?! Gimme just one example of how wise people are when gathered as a crowd. Hooligans? Retards. Voting in our modern alleged democracy? Lol. So much Wisdom.

There is no crowd. Only sheeples.

So much emotion over ones and zeros.  Satoshi was/is brilliant in his design. 
EVERY change is up for a vote.  Vote by running a node and choosing your client.  I firmly believe in the wisdom of the crowd. 

In 9 months-
If XT is meant to be, it will be. 
If Core is the way, it will stay.
And the FUD on both sides will be as irrelevant as usb miners.

Two known CIA/NSA assets infiltrated in the Bitcoin community - Gavin Andresen and Mike Hearn - have joined forces to push a hastily concocted privacy nightmare/scamcoin, which they call Bitcoin-XT.

It is currently completely irrelevant, owing to an absolute lack of financial, economical, technical or social support.

In the future...

pro-XT FUD.



The facts:

There is not a TOR usernode blacklist in XT.

There is a TOR exit node whitelist in XT.

Off-topic:
No. The sudden jump to ~1290 clearly shows us that someone is manipulating the node count and that it should be disregarded. It quickly went down to 877.

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The question is how is this relevant to the original point of this thread? There obviously is no censorship and they are pretty tolerant. If someone stricter was in charge all of these posts would get wiped.
So essentially OP made an assumption without proper evidence in the code? Even though Hearn was advocating blacklisting even in 2014, that does not necessarily mean that it has already been implemented (no). However, that does not mean that it won't get implemented either.

Ah, now all these XT people intend on destroying Bitcoin would have another crypto currency to sabotage.   ....Let's hope after this whole circus has come to a end, people

would calm down and concentrate on the common goal to make "Bitcoin" work to the benefit of all people and not a few individuals with hidden agendas.

This is such a waste of time and resources, for people to fight for the control over Bitcoin... Can they not see the harm in that?  

Looks like one already showed up.

LOL!

http://litecoinxt.com

No, that's boring (because talk is cheap, anyone may bluff).  The actually "interesting" part comes when/if we find out who was faking and who genuinely supported bloated Gavinblocks.

... well ... will be interesting over the next few days to see how many pools start putting /BIP100/ in their sigs

Exactly!  Those with nothing to hide have nothing to fear from Heam's checkpoints and "final call."

Why is everyone freaking out?


What's wrong with a little bit of control, policing and over sight?


Just don't do anything wrong or piss off the wrong people and you'll be fine.



~BCX~

It sounds like the recent jump in XT nodes was caused by tytyty_ on /r/bitcoinXT:

https://www.reddit.com/r/bitcoinxt/comments/3i1dra/psa_its_super_easy_to_manipulate_the_node_count_i/

I know misleading the public is your favorite hobby, but could you please disclose the XT node count includes those spoofed by NotXT and Pseudonode?

Or is honesty asking too much of a Gavinista dead-ender?

It has already reached over 1000 nodes (presently 1101).  It is now the second most popular implementation:

This is amazing, XT will never reach more than 1000 nodes. 

Antifragility! Gotta love bitcoin! Once we done with usgavin ccmf!!!