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October 01, 2016, 01:06:35 PM

Give it some time and everything will be alright. I am trying to figure out if DECENT can raise more than 5 million USD in this ICO
member
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October 01, 2016, 12:51:16 PM
Hi,
I just joined signature bounty campaign.please added me in the spreadsheet.
thanx
sr. member
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October 01, 2016, 12:35:08 PM
hey hey i want to sell some decent tokens :-) with escrow:-) pls pm :-)
Is ICO ended?
No,ICO still running. i think he bought IOU tokens from LIQUI exchange which he can't withdraw until real INCENT is launched.
hero member
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October 01, 2016, 10:32:07 AM
hey hey i want to sell some decent tokens :-) with escrow:-) pls pm :-)
Is ICO ended?
newbie
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October 01, 2016, 10:12:26 AM

  • Regarding the (medium like) blogging platform on top of Decent. Where will it be hosted? I guess it still needs immediate machine power and central infrastructure, doesn't it? If it's thought to be distributed delivery - how can that work really fast. I mean currently I have to rent machines from service providers to achieve a fast delivery and I use heavy caching by other service providers. And people don't want to wait for seconds to open a blog post.
  • Just googled for torrent streaming and that seems to be possible... Will that architecture be the blueprint for Decent video streaming?
  • How is it organized that the blockchain is staying at a manageable size? I mean it will be terrabytes if content is embedded (but I guess that won't be the case)? But alone with the transaction data the blockchain will explode (we see it with Bitcoin and it is just for financial transactions)?Will everyone just have some part of it, but how is the complete chain validation organized?
  • It needed years and I can't imaging how many person programming years to get torrent, blogging ... where we are now. Based on the ICO you can maybe pay up to 30 great developers for one year (let it be 50). I think thats far to less to get that much done what Decent aims to be. Are there any other plans how to attract development capabilities?

1. The web FE indeed need its own place where it runs. The advantage with decentralized BE is, that the FEs can themselves run in different locations.
2. Under investigation right now. The torrent streaming is the most straightforward and simplest way indeed, but has its own drawbacks (too simplistic, issue with integrating the statistics and their accuracy etc).
3. Content in the block is an issue - look for example at steem, you have problem running node on machine with 8GB of memory after few months of usage.  Therefore, content won't/can't be included in the blockchain. This moves the problem a bit into the future, so we can (and we will, as it is not immediate problem to be resolved) address it in one of the planned feature drops. First we need to understand how the network will be used, have some statistics, see what takes most space in the blockchain, how quickly it gets filled, and based on that we will decide on the best corrective actions, which can be e.g. removal of obsolete transactions.
4. Let's wait for the ICO to finish before making any conclusion in this area Wink So far it looks good, and we will be able to finance the most important features plus lot of "nice to have" ones.

Thanks for your input. To point 4 - I keep fingers crossed Wink
hero member
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October 01, 2016, 09:01:37 AM
Would it be possible to start a new Decent thread with a moderator than can delete all of the IOUs promotions?

The posts related to spamming or IOU trading where reported to the moderator.
We ask all of you to stay focused to our official threads/channels and beware of all the scam attempts.

If you guys think that IOU trading is scam, we personally don't know how you will develop Decent coin, if you don't understand obvious things. Ruefully...
How you prove that you have DECENT tokens? Prove-of-Screenshot -))

Proof of transaction to developers wallet - all Txid https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1t4KZA-GkVmvW9PBckRtzz2Mn9-_26LzFAVAcEEeOh9E/edit#gid=0.

Well the DECENT Team is well within its right to refund you your Investment, all of your 10.375 BTC

Won't be that difficult to track since you provide all the details of your investment.

Personally, I hope they do this so that you arrogant muppets get a taste of your own medicine.

Sasha from Waves did make Yobit back track on their Waves IOUs, so there is no reason why DECENT has to put up with your silly little stunt.
newbie
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October 01, 2016, 08:16:20 AM

  • Regarding the (medium like) blogging platform on top of Decent. Where will it be hosted? I guess it still needs immediate machine power and central infrastructure, doesn't it? If it's thought to be distributed delivery - how can that work really fast. I mean currently I have to rent machines from service providers to achieve a fast delivery and I use heavy caching by other service providers. And people don't want to wait for seconds to open a blog post.
  • Just googled for torrent streaming and that seems to be possible... Will that architecture be the blueprint for Decent video streaming?
  • How is it organized that the blockchain is staying at a manageable size? I mean it will be terrabytes if content is embedded (but I guess that won't be the case)? But alone with the transaction data the blockchain will explode (we see it with Bitcoin and it is just for financial transactions)?Will everyone just have some part of it, but how is the complete chain validation organized?
  • It needed years and I can't imaging how many person programming years to get torrent, blogging ... where we are now. Based on the ICO you can maybe pay up to 30 great developers for one year (let it be 50). I think thats far to less to get that much done what Decent aims to be. Are there any other plans how to attract development capabilities?

1. The web FE indeed need its own place where it runs. The advantage with decentralized BE is, that the FEs can themselves run in different locations.
2. Under investigation right now. The torrent streaming is the most straightforward and simplest way indeed, but has its own drawbacks (too simplistic, issue with integrating the statistics and their accuracy etc).
3. Content in the block is an issue - look for example at steem, you have problem running node on machine with 8GB of memory after few months of usage.  Therefore, content won't/can't be included in the blockchain. This moves the problem a bit into the future, so we can (and we will, as it is not immediate problem to be resolved) address it in one of the planned feature drops. First we need to understand how the network will be used, have some statistics, see what takes most space in the blockchain, how quickly it gets filled, and based on that we will decide on the best corrective actions, which can be e.g. removal of obsolete transactions.
4. Let's wait for the ICO to finish before making any conclusion in this area Wink So far it looks good, and we will be able to finance the most important features plus lot of "nice to have" ones.
newbie
Activity: 22
Merit: 0
October 01, 2016, 08:14:34 AM
yea thats good idea to remove spaming post

+1 with removing the spam

I would ask for more discussion on details of Decent. I was watching most of the content so far and have a vague idea how it could work. And most of the meetup videos is not really adding that much news ... it shows:
  • some mining experience
  • the vision
  • some rough sketches what Decent aims to be and in which areas
  • a prototype and some sketches of the blogging platform

But where are the details?

Some questions that come to my mind (and maybe I'm not technical knowledgable enough?):

  • Regarding the (medium like) blogging platform on top of Decent. Where will it be hosted? I guess it still needs immediate machine power and central infrastructure, doesn't it? If it's thought to be distributed delivery - how can that work really fast. I mean currently I have to rent machines from service providers to achieve a fast delivery and I use heavy caching by other service providers. And people don't want to wait for seconds to open a blog post.
  • Just googled for torrent streaming and that seems to be possible... Will that architecture be the blueprint for Decent video streaming?
  • How is it organized that the blockchain is staying at a manageable size? I mean it will be terrabytes if content is embedded (but I guess that won't be the case)? But alone with the transaction data the blockchain will explode (we see it with Bitcoin and it is just for financial transactions)?Will everyone just have some part of it, but how is the complete chain validation organized?
  • It needed years and I can't imaging how many person programming years to get torrent, blogging ... where we are now. Based on the ICO you can maybe pay up to 30 great developers for one year (let it be 50). I think thats far to less to get that much done what Decent aims to be. Are there any other plans how to attract development capabilities?

I guess I still missed some presentations and maybe there are some great hints where to get more insights? Would be glad to get deeper into the topic ;-)

The only thing I can suggest is to read the website to find out details. You're missing months of information so it would be hard to just explain everything.

OK - I already had a look through various posts (on the decent page, including white paper - roadmap,...), watched many talks (I guess all that are published) ... but there is not that much detail.

What shall I read through? Any more suggestions?

BTW - there should be a way for new members to grasp that information easily and the expectation that one has to scan through months of forum posts or slack discussions seems to be at least for me not feasible.

OK - now I read through all DECENT times posts so far and found some more details - I shortly summarize the source - maybe others find it useful too (and it explained Q1-3 from my questions above - at least roughly):

Decent roadmap:


Decent prototype - https://decent.ch/decent-prototype-demonstrating-main-features-of-the-p2p-network-2/


Decent paper - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YX1OpxP_jk2Ncwk2fA44yFHe3a0DJxZHL7OGmMzV4tw/edit#heading=h.3znysh7
  • some more details about operations
  • roles
  • author fees
  • layers
  • storage topics

newbie
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October 01, 2016, 06:16:36 AM
hey hey i want to sell some decent tokens :-) with escrow:-) pls pm :-)
newbie
Activity: 22
Merit: 0
October 01, 2016, 03:18:45 AM
yea thats good idea to remove spaming post

+1 with removing the spam

I would ask for more discussion on details of Decent. I was watching most of the content so far and have a vague idea how it could work. And most of the meetup videos is not really adding that much news ... it shows:
  • some mining experience
  • the vision
  • some rough sketches what Decent aims to be and in which areas
  • a prototype and some sketches of the blogging platform

But where are the details?

Some questions that come to my mind (and maybe I'm not technical knowledgable enough?):

  • Regarding the (medium like) blogging platform on top of Decent. Where will it be hosted? I guess it still needs immediate machine power and central infrastructure, doesn't it? If it's thought to be distributed delivery - how can that work really fast. I mean currently I have to rent machines from service providers to achieve a fast delivery and I use heavy caching by other service providers. And people don't want to wait for seconds to open a blog post.
  • Just googled for torrent streaming and that seems to be possible... Will that architecture be the blueprint for Decent video streaming?
  • How is it organized that the blockchain is staying at a manageable size? I mean it will be terrabytes if content is embedded (but I guess that won't be the case)? But alone with the transaction data the blockchain will explode (we see it with Bitcoin and it is just for financial transactions)?Will everyone just have some part of it, but how is the complete chain validation organized?
  • It needed years and I can't imaging how many person programming years to get torrent, blogging ... where we are now. Based on the ICO you can maybe pay up to 30 great developers for one year (let it be 50). I think thats far to less to get that much done what Decent aims to be. Are there any other plans how to attract development capabilities?

I guess I still missed some presentations and maybe there are some great hints where to get more insights? Would be glad to get deeper into the topic ;-)

The only thing I can suggest is to read the website to find out details. You're missing months of information so it would be hard to just explain everything.

OK - I already had a look through various posts (on the decent page, including white paper - roadmap,...), watched many talks (I guess all that are published) ... but there is not that much detail.

What shall I read through? Any more suggestions?

BTW - there should be a way for new members to grasp that information easily and the expectation that one has to scan through months of forum posts or slack discussions seems to be at least for me not feasible.
copper member
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October 01, 2016, 02:46:10 AM
is bounties still alive? I've like and followed facebook page and twitter. kindly count me in to the bounties. BTW where is we can see the list? and the participants etc?

and when will ICO finish? I want to join and invest some funds.
hero member
Activity: 490
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October 01, 2016, 01:59:39 AM
Would it be possible to start a new Decent thread with a moderator than can delete all of the IOUs promotions?

The posts related to spamming or IOU trading where reported to the moderator.
We ask all of you to stay focused to our official threads/channels and beware of all the scam attempts.

If you guys think that IOU trading is scam, we personally don't know how you will develop Decent coin, if you don't understand obvious things. Ruefully...
How you prove that you have DECENT tokens? Prove-of-Screenshot -))

Proof of transaction to developers wallet - all Txid https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1t4KZA-GkVmvW9PBckRtzz2Mn9-_26LzFAVAcEEeOh9E/edit#gid=0.
hero member
Activity: 625
Merit: 500
October 01, 2016, 01:55:46 AM
Would it be possible to start a new Decent thread with a moderator than can delete all of the IOUs promotions?

The posts related to spamming or IOU trading where reported to the moderator.
We ask all of you to stay focused to our official threads/channels and beware of all the scam attempts.

If you guys think that IOU trading is scam, we personally don't know how you will develop Decent coin, if you don't understand obvious things. Ruefully...
How you prove that you have DECENT tokens? Prove-of-Screenshot -))
sr. member
Activity: 360
Merit: 250
October 01, 2016, 01:47:15 AM
Would it be possible to start a new Decent thread with a moderator than can delete all of the IOUs promotions?

The posts related to spamming or IOU trading where reported to the moderator.
We ask all of you to stay focused to our official threads/channels and beware of all the scam attempts.

If you guys think that IOU trading is scam, we personally don't know how you will develop Decent coin, if you don't understand obvious things. Ruefully...
I think it is not yet launched so IOU token does not look attractive for a trade

dude thats the whole point of iou tokens. You can buy or sell before launch lol
legendary
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Bitcoin Trader
October 01, 2016, 01:41:52 AM
Would it be possible to start a new Decent thread with a moderator than can delete all of the IOUs promotions?

The posts related to spamming or IOU trading where reported to the moderator.
We ask all of you to stay focused to our official threads/channels and beware of all the scam attempts.

If you guys think that IOU trading is scam, we personally don't know how you will develop Decent coin, if you don't understand obvious things. Ruefully...
I think it is not yet launched so IOU token does not look attractive for a trade
hero member
Activity: 490
Merit: 500
October 01, 2016, 01:36:59 AM
Would it be possible to start a new Decent thread with a moderator than can delete all of the IOUs promotions?

The posts related to spamming or IOU trading where reported to the moderator.
We ask all of you to stay focused to our official threads/channels and beware of all the scam attempts.

If you guys think that IOU trading is scam, we personally don't know how you will develop Decent coin, if you don't understand obvious things. Ruefully...
sr. member
Activity: 360
Merit: 250
October 01, 2016, 01:24:07 AM
sr. member
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Merit: 250
October 01, 2016, 12:58:47 AM
yea thats good idea to remove spaming post

+1 with removing the spam

I would ask for more discussion on details of Decent. I was watching most of the content so far and have a vague idea how it could work. And most of the meetup videos is not really adding that much news ... it shows:
  • some mining experience
  • the vision
  • some rough sketches what Decent aims to be and in which areas
  • a prototype and some sketches of the blogging platform

But where are the details?

Some questions that come to my mind (and maybe I'm not technical knowledgable enough?):

  • Regarding the (medium like) blogging platform on top of Decent. Where will it be hosted? I guess it still needs immediate machine power and central infrastructure, doesn't it? If it's thought to be distributed delivery - how can that work really fast. I mean currently I have to rent machines from service providers to achieve a fast delivery and I use heavy caching by other service providers. And people don't want to wait for seconds to open a blog post.
  • Just googled for torrent streaming and that seems to be possible... Will that architecture be the blueprint for Decent video streaming?
  • How is it organized that the blockchain is staying at a manageable size? I mean it will be terrabytes if content is embedded (but I guess that won't be the case)? But alone with the transaction data the blockchain will explode (we see it with Bitcoin and it is just for financial transactions)?Will everyone just have some part of it, but how is the complete chain validation organized?
  • It needed years and I can't imaging how many person programming years to get torrent, blogging ... where we are now. Based on the ICO you can maybe pay up to 30 great developers for one year (let it be 50). I think thats far to less to get that much done what Decent aims to be. Are there any other plans how to attract development capabilities?

I guess I still missed some presentations and maybe there are some great hints where to get more insights? Would be glad to get deeper into the topic ;-)

The only thing I can suggest is to read the website to find out details. You're missing months of information so it would be hard to just explain everything.
hero member
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October 01, 2016, 12:37:10 AM
Maybe source have the same, can be mine, name is diffirent.
legendary
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October 01, 2016, 12:34:02 AM
Hi! Joined the bounties signatures.  Smiley
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