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o_e_l_e_o

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Quote from: digaran on May 19, 2018, 05:55:59 PM

Why should I discuss the tag with abusers? they are the ones abusing, they are the ones who should be judged, they are judging people wrongfully and nobody is judging their actions, if I have to resolve the issue only with you after you have tagged me, you could dictate whatever terms you wish, that is wrong and that is abuse of power.

This has been pointed out to you multiple times, but it seems that it needs repeating again - trust isn't moderated.

DT2 members are not infrequently removed, added and replaced by DT1 members editing their trust lists. Just because you don't agree with their decisions doesn't make it abuse.

HCP

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Quote from: digaran on May 19, 2018, 05:55:59 PM

.... if I have to resolve the issue only with you after you have tagged me, you could dictate whatever terms you wish, that is wrong and that is abuse of power.

You do realise there is no "If", right? Trust is completely unmoderated and the ONLY person who is able to modify or remove a Trust rating, is the person who left the Trust rating. So, your ONLY option is to resolve the issue with whomever tagged you.

Now, while they potentially could dictate unreasonable terms for getting a tag removed (like paying them $50 or reporting a certain number of spam posts Roll Eyes

)... and yes, THAT would be wrong... One would hope that any completely unreasonable or unethical terms would result in that person quickly being dumped from DT. (provided adequate proof of the demands was provided etc.)

In any case, I see that you have reconsidered your "service" and are now offering campaign management instead. Best of luck to you.

digaran

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Quote from: digaran on May 19, 2018, 10:01:04 PM

Open for business people. read the second post. hire me now before I run out of money I'm begging you guys. Cheesy

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I'm about to sell my phone for money.

Sell your phone and never come back, at least that way you will finally do something positive for this forum

Have some dignity man/woman, you are posting on this forum to get a few pennies. have your own mind and don't be an idiot falling to these traps of mine.

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Quote from: digaran on May 19, 2018, 10:01:04 PM

Open for business people. read the second post. hire me now before I run out of money I'm begging you guys. Cheesy

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Where are your 200-line essays for each of those three cases?

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Open for business people. read the second post. hire me now before I run out of money I'm begging you guys. Cheesy

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I'm about to sell my phone for money.

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Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on May 19, 2018, 04:27:54 PM

Quote from: digaran on May 19, 2018, 03:30:05 PM

Exactly, all I can do is spending my time if a client is willing to pay me for my time, if the tag is illegit, I can spend my time to point that out for DT1 members to see and reconsider on including or excluding people from their trust list= having a fair system at the end.

So what you are saying is, "Instead of discussing why your tag is illegit directly with the person who tagged you , let's add in an unnecessary middle-man - discuss it with me, and then I'll discuss it with them on your behalf. Also, pay me for this nonsense".

Got ya.

Why should I discuss the tag with abusers? they are the ones abusing, they are the ones who should be judged, they are judging people wrongfully and nobody is judging their actions, if I have to resolve the issue only with you after you have tagged me, you could dictate whatever terms you wish, that is wrong and that is abuse of power.

o_e_l_e_o

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Quote from: digaran on May 19, 2018, 03:30:05 PM

Exactly, all I can do is spending my time if a client is willing to pay me for my time, if the tag is illegit, I can spend my time to point that out for DT1 members to see and reconsider on including or excluding people from their trust list= having a fair system at the end.

So what you are saying is, "Instead of discussing why your tag is illegit directly with the person who tagged you , let's add in an unnecessary middle-man - discuss it with me, and then I'll discuss it with them on your behalf. Also, pay me for this nonsense".

Got ya.

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Quote from: InvoKing on May 19, 2018, 11:12:32 AM

Quote from: digaran on May 19, 2018, 12:11:10 AM

Quote from: InvoKing on May 17, 2018, 06:35:19 PM

Quote from: digaran on May 17, 2018, 05:33:38 PM

why should I get tagged as a scammer? tell me that.

What do you call someone who is willing to gets your money even if he wasn't able to do the job without giving a refund to the customer?
Even if you put rules, others have the right for not trusting you... You have to accept it and think twice about what you are doing.

What do you call the lawyers? they can't always win but they get the money for doing their best.

Digaran, the lawyer isn't doing his job in an open-air or in the street. He is doing it in the court, he tries to do the best he can in order to convince the judge that the accused person is innocent...
Who is the judge in your case? I think that you are aware that trust isn't moderated and even theymos couldn't remove it. Are you trying to convince depth1 DT to exclude depth2? well if you don't have solid arguments of abuse then good luck.

I don't care if I can convince DT members to remove their tags or not, I only can spend my time and defend people if they wish to pay me for it.

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Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on May 19, 2018, 04:52:51 AM

Additionally, you have already admitted that you have no control over trust, and therefore no chance of winning:

Exactly, all I can do is spending my time if a client is willing to pay me for my time, if the tag is illegit, I can spend my time to point that out for DT1 members to see and reconsider on including or excluding people from their trust list= having a fair system at the end.

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Quote from: digaran on May 19, 2018, 12:11:10 AM

Quote from: InvoKing on May 17, 2018, 06:35:19 PM

Quote from: digaran on May 17, 2018, 05:33:38 PM

why should I get tagged as a scammer? tell me that.

What do you call someone who is willing to gets your money even if he wasn't able to do the job without giving a refund to the customer?
Even if you put rules, others have the right for not trusting you... You have to accept it and think twice about what you are doing.

What do you call the lawyers? they can't always win but they get the money for doing their best.

Digaran, the lawyer isn't doing his job in an open-air or in the street. He is doing it in the court, he tries to do the best he can in order to convince the judge that the accused person is innocent...
Who is the judge in your case? I think that you are aware that trust isn't moderated and even theymos couldn't remove it. Are you trying to convince depth1 DT to exclude depth2? well if you don't have solid arguments of abuse then good luck.

o_e_l_e_o

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Quote from: digaran on May 19, 2018, 12:11:10 AM

What do you call the lawyers? they can't always win but they get the money for doing their best.

Lawyers are providing a service others cannot do for themselves, and will have at least a chance of winning.

It has been pointed out by bill gator that not only are you not providing a service that the user could not just do themselves, but you are in fact barely providing any service at all:

Quote from: bill gator on May 17, 2018, 04:32:07 PM

Quote from: digaran on May 17, 2018, 03:40:20 PM

If anybody has been a victim to suchmoon's abuse of power, this is your chance to be heard, let us pile up evidences against him. hire me to spend my time and bring abusers to light of justice

So you want other people to come forward with their evidence and essentially do your job for you, for free? Why would anybody want to pay you to research suchmoon's "abuse" if they are also providing the evidence.

Quote from: digaran on May 17, 2018, 03:40:20 PM

I can't force anybody to remove their tags

All you can do is present information that the person likely already considered before or after leaving their rating. You are offering to do nothing for a fee.

Additionally, you have already admitted that you have no control over trust, and therefore no chance of winning:

Quote from: digaran on May 13, 2018, 04:56:30 PM

disclaimer: you are paying me for my time, not for my ability to remove your red tags, I don't have any control over trust network, I could only point out abuse of power, this fee is for my time.

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Quote from: InvoKing on May 17, 2018, 06:35:19 PM

Quote from: digaran on May 17, 2018, 05:33:38 PM

why should I get tagged as a scammer? tell me that.

What do you call someone who is willing to gets your money even if he wasn't able to do the job without giving a refund to the customer?
Even if you put rules, others have the right for not trusting you... You have to accept it and think twice about what you are doing.

What do you call the lawyers? they can't always win but they get the money for doing their best.

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Quote from: HCP on May 18, 2018, 08:22:56 AM

Quote from: digaran on May 17, 2018, 05:33:38 PM

Do you have a problem with that? don't use my service, why should I get tagged as a scammer? tell me that.

You seem to be stuck on the "Negative Trust == Scammer" train. You do realise that "Negative Trust" is NOT just reserved for "scammers" right? It is simply a statement that "Person X does not trust Person Y because of #reasons". Other users are free to heed or ignore Person X's rating as they see fit.

Quote from: KWH on May 17, 2018, 07:44:31 PM

All I can add:

There... FTFY Tongue

Laughing my ass off. thank you KWH.

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DMs have been disabled. I am busy.

Looks like the perfect opportunity to prove your skills by defending your own case.

Watching with popcorn.

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Quote from: digaran on May 17, 2018, 05:33:38 PM

Do you have a problem with that? don't use my service, why should I get tagged as a scammer? tell me that.

You seem to be stuck on the "Negative Trust == Scammer" train. You do realise that "Negative Trust" is NOT just reserved for "scammers" right? It is simply a statement that "Person X does not trust Person Y because of #reasons". Other users are free to heed or ignore Person X's rating as they see fit.

Quote from: KWH on May 17, 2018, 07:44:31 PM

All I can add:

There... FTFY Tongue

KWH

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All I can add:

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disclaimer: you are paying me for my time, not for my ability to remove your red tags, I don't have any control over trust network, I could only point out abuse of power, this fee is for my time.

*proceeds to advertise as red tag removal service in signature*

me: Niceeeee...

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I will advise you get the red tags off your profile first then we can begin to take you serious.

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Quote from: digaran on May 17, 2018, 05:33:38 PM

why should I get tagged as a scammer? tell me that.

What do you call someone who is willing to gets your money even if he wasn't able to do the job without giving a refund to the customer?
Even if you put rules, others have the right for not trusting you... You have to accept it and think twice about what you are doing.

digaran

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Quote from: bill gator on May 17, 2018, 04:32:07 PM

All you can do is present information that the person likely already considered before or after leaving their rating. You are offering to do nothing for a fee

Do you have a problem with that? don't use my service, why should I get tagged as a scammer? tell me that.

bill gator

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Quote from: digaran on May 17, 2018, 03:40:20 PM

If anybody has been a victim to suchmoon's abuse of power, this is your chance to be heard, let us pile up evidences against him. hire me to spend my time and bring abusers to light of justice

So you want other people to come forward with their evidence and essentially do your job for you, for free? Why would anybody want to pay you to research suchmoon's "abuse" if they are also providing the evidence.

Quote from: digaran on May 17, 2018, 03:40:20 PM

I could spend my time on earning money doing something else, if I ask for money is because spending time on these cases could render me unable to earn money for my own needs. this is a serious business.

I highly suggest you go do that "something else". This is not a profitable venture for you. I don't believe anybody here honestly cares about your needs, and this business you are running is less serious than a toddler.

Quote from: digaran on May 17, 2018, 03:40:20 PM

There are not enough cases ... hence I increased the fee.

You must understand how dumb this sounds, right? There is nobody interested in your service, therefore you are increasing the price. That's not how supply and demand works.

Quote from: digaran on May 17, 2018, 03:40:20 PM

I can't force anybody to remove their tags

All you can do is present information that the person likely already considered before or after leaving their rating. You are offering to do nothing for a fee.

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