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hero member
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January 06, 2021, 12:17:17 AM
#53
Dunno where the production cost is shown but am I the only one finding that 100 EUR for it is ridiculous? I know there is very few services offering more but I recommend to avoid it unless a necessity since it claims to operate in most countries. Otherwise I didn't find reviews for it, TTM stands for to the moon bank apparently

Here:




Yes, the price is, to put it mildly, overpriced. And also there is a restriction on some countries in terms of accepting an internal passport for passing KYC. Only international passport.

I registered and tried to create an order. They require payment immediately, even before passing KYC, this is of course a little strange. Or I didn't understand something. Undecided
staff
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March 16, 2021, 01:52:18 AM
#53
can one advise me a company from the list that requires "soft" kyc ?

What is that you mean by soft exactly? Entering your credentials without the need of sending your documents? If so, I'm afraid none of the services on this list has that.
newbie
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March 15, 2021, 09:53:02 AM
#52
can one advise me a company from the list that requires "soft" kyc ?
hero member
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January 05, 2021, 12:17:06 PM
#51
New Card


TTM Bank -    

INFO:

  • Card Type - VISA
  • Production Cost - 100 EUR
  • Supported Coins - BTC, ETH, USDT, TRX
  • Supported Countries - worldwide
  • Service fee -





KYC is needed, when replenishing the card with cryptocurrency, it is automatically converted to the card balance in EUR.


Thanks taikuri13 for info
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March 15, 2021, 06:50:20 AM
#51
It may worth mentioning that Wirex is ending the current VISA cards and started sending out their new MasterCard. In theory the fees will be different too.

And it may worth adding to the list OWNR prepaid VISA card, and maybe their "coming soon" virtual card too.
legendary
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February 05, 2021, 09:55:40 AM
#50
great work, if you have the time to add another property for each: Allows virtual cards only? Yes/No

AFAIK, none of the mentioned cards offer virtual cards (not anymore at least) except for AdvCash (EU customers) and GetSpendl (worldwide). Therefore, I don't really think that's a property worth adding.
Hey OSS, did you try Getspendl?, it seems interesting but it is still beta and lacks some informations regarding the rates. KYC looks mandatory at some points...
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February 05, 2021, 08:47:17 AM
#49
that's already good info for me as I don't need a physical card for my online only purchases Smiley
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February 05, 2021, 07:03:10 AM
#48
great work, if you have the time to add another property for each: Allows virtual cards only? Yes/No

AFAIK, none of the mentioned cards offer virtual cards (not anymore at least) except for AdvCash (EU customers) and GetSpendl (worldwide). Therefore, I don't really think that's a property worth adding.
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February 01, 2021, 03:59:53 PM
#47
great work, if you have the time to add another property for each: Allows virtual cards only? Yes/No
legendary
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January 30, 2021, 12:32:11 PM
#46
I slightly added the list of Crypto Debit Cards.
Crypto Debit Card from the Fold that collaborates with Visa: Fold Visa Card.
https://support.foldapp.com/hc/en-us/sections/360010926251-Fold-Visa-Card
The Fold Card is a debit card that gives bitcoin prizes to its users. Of course, this card allows its users to top up their balance using bitcoin.

Reference: https://foldapp.com/card/

-snip-
Paycent also has some problem with their card payment.
Another complaint about using the Paycent Card:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2173711.1720

I was also deceived by Paycent thieves. First, the Paycent card didn't work for me. Before that, I noticed that PayCent Union Pay card was no longer in my Paycent account. I had a certain amount of dollars on it. They kept telling me to try at other ATMs and none ATMs of them recognized the Paycent card as operational. All ATMs supported UnionPay. Then I couldn't even transfer dollars from my PayCent account to that card because it's no longer in my account. I also couldn't exchange $ in ETH and put them back in my ETH wallet because there is no such option on the Paycent app. PAY ATTENTION TO THIS - ONCE WHEN YOU SEND ETH TO A PAYCENT ACCOUNT, YOU CANNOT RETURN ETH AGAIN. I send again a few e-mails and customer support kept promising to send me back my dollars converted back to ETH. They never are. PayCent thieves.
If you think you are scammed or that a service didn't kept its word then I think you have to report it in the scam accusations sub with proofs (screenshot of msg, email...)
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January 29, 2021, 04:31:43 PM
#45
Not everything is so simple, in Russia they like to block such transfers and the only way to avoid this is to cash out the crypt through such cards. For me personally, Russian banks blocked such crypto transactions a couple of times, moreover, together with the card and the funds that were on it.

Therefore, using the methods you listed for cashing out cryptocurrency in Russia is not always safe.
Dunno how things are going on Russia but I will give you an example that I used recently.
I sent few days ago the equivalent of 150 USD in bitcoin to an exchange and received ~110 USD in my Neteller balance. Obviously there was no crypto involved in this for Neteller, although it is allowed there, it was a transfer from USD to USD but the guy accepted bitcoin in exchange of USD.
Same goes for bank transfer, Western Union and Moneygram, there is no crypto involved in this for authorities/banks, the guy/company exchange it as a p2p. I didn't try this latter method yet so can't guarantee it.
Dunno if you understood me Ratimov. The main problem remains from where come this money and for what? You don't know the guy or the company that sent it and in exchange for what, remains the main problem... That's why I prefer to use Neteller for the moment and Advcash in the near future when international cards will be available.

Everything Ratimow said applies to Bosnia and Herzegovina. It is impossible to withdraw funds without a crypto debit card. Banks block all money coming from crypto exchanges. And I'm looking for a crypto card that works in non-EU European countries. If anyone knows let me know.



I slightly added the list of Crypto Debit Cards.
Crypto Debit Card from the Fold that collaborates with Visa: Fold Visa Card.
https://support.foldapp.com/hc/en-us/sections/360010926251-Fold-Visa-Card
The Fold Card is a debit card that gives bitcoin prizes to its users. Of course, this card allows its users to top up their balance using bitcoin.

Reference: https://foldapp.com/card/

-snip-
Paycent also has some problem with their card payment.
Another complaint about using the Paycent Card:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2173711.1720

I was also deceived by Paycent thieves. First, the Paycent card didn't work for me. Before that, I noticed that PayCent Union Pay card was no longer in my Paycent account. I had a certain amount of dollars on it. They kept telling me to try at other ATMs and none ATMs of them recognized the Paycent card as operational. All ATMs supported UnionPay. Then I couldn't even transfer dollars from my PayCent account to that card because it's no longer in my account. I also couldn't exchange $ in ETH and put them back in my ETH wallet because there is no such option on the Paycent app. PAY ATTENTION TO THIS - ONCE WHEN YOU SEND ETH TO A PAYCENT ACCOUNT, YOU CANNOT RETURN ETH AGAIN. I send again a few e-mails and customer support kept promising to send me back my dollars converted back to ETH. They never are. PayCent thieves.

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legendary
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January 26, 2021, 02:56:09 PM
#44
Not everything is so simple, in Russia they like to block such transfers and the only way to avoid this is to cash out the crypt through such cards. For me personally, Russian banks blocked such crypto transactions a couple of times, moreover, together with the card and the funds that were on it.

Therefore, using the methods you listed for cashing out cryptocurrency in Russia is not always safe.
Dunno how things are going on Russia but I will give you an example that I used recently.
I sent few days ago the equivalent of 150 USD in bitcoin to an exchange and received ~110 USD in my Neteller balance. Obviously there was no crypto involved in this for Neteller, although it is allowed there, it was a transfer from USD to USD but the guy accepted bitcoin in exchange of USD.
Same goes for bank transfer, Western Union and Moneygram, there is no crypto involved in this for authorities/banks, the guy/company exchange it as a p2p. I didn't try this latter method yet so can't guarantee it.
Dunno if you understood me Ratimov. The main problem remains from where come this money and for what? You don't know the guy or the company that sent it and in exchange for what, remains the main problem... That's why I prefer to use Neteller for the moment and Advcash in the near future when international cards will be available.
hero member
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October 31, 2020, 01:33:59 AM
#43
Found the site where information about 61 debit cards is collected: Compare Bitcoin Debit Cards



The list contains extended information about fees and countries of use.
legendary
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January 26, 2021, 09:31:35 AM
#43
Russia and Turkey citizens have the right to a plastic or virtual card in Advcash, at least with their corresponding currency if not in Euro or USD. The remaining countries will be able to use international cards in few months "normally".
There is ezzocard that offers anonymous virtual cards with huge fees and not working with every site afaik so use it at your own risk (of losing money).
I made an exhaustive research and as far Advcash seems the best (future) solution for non-EEA citizens..

Advcash is good for online shopping and paying some bills, but there are very small withdrawal limits, per month for Russian citizens it is allowed to withdraw $500 only in cash. To consider it as a full-fledged crypto debit card with such restrictions has not yet been possible. Undecided
Yeah I am not aware of all restrictions about withdrawal but it is usable as an online payment method which is what most people want.
If someone is trying to withdraw crypto to cash, he can do it without using Advcash or other payments solutions. There is a way to send western union or moneygram or even a bank transfer from crypto to cash. I will not advertise it here since I didn't try it but it is possible to avoid those kinds of limits.
legendary
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January 26, 2021, 07:18:29 AM
#42
Is there any update on these vaporwares products declared as worldwide? Can someone who is a non-EEA citizen confirm a working card by any of the listed vendors ?
Russia and Turkey citizens have the right to a plastic or virtual card in Advcash, at least with their corresponding currency if not in Euro or USD. The remaining countries will be able to use international cards in few months "normally".
There is ezzocard that offers anonymous virtual cards with huge fees and not working with every site afaik so use it at your own risk (of losing money).
I made an exhaustive research and as far Advcash seems the best (future) solution for non-EEA citizens..
sr. member
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January 26, 2021, 05:28:04 AM
#41
Is there any update on these vaporwares products declared as worldwide? Can someone who is a non-EEA citizen confirm a working card by any of the listed vendors ?
legendary
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January 06, 2021, 09:57:45 AM
#40
Dunno where the production cost is shown but am I the only one finding that 100 EUR for it is ridiculous? I know there is very few services offering more but I recommend to avoid it unless a necessity since it claims to operate in most countries. Otherwise I didn't find reviews for it, TTM stands for to the moon bank apparently

Here:

https://i.ibb.co/PcZG24t/Opera-2021-01-06-083904-ttmbank-com.png
https://i.ibb.co/r7P3wcV/7545745745.png

Yes, the price is, to put it mildly, overpriced. And also there is a restriction on some countries in terms of accepting an internal passport for passing KYC. Only international passport.

I registered and tried to create an order. They require payment immediately, even before passing KYC, this is of course a little strange. Or I didn't understand something. Undecided
Clear, thanks. I wasn't able to see it since I didn't register there but yeah normally you should pass KYC then you can order the card. There will be for sure people failing to pass it and they will lose their money in that way. That should be considered as a flag imo Undecided
legendary
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January 05, 2021, 05:28:23 PM
#39
-snip-
Dunno where the production cost is shown but am I the only one finding that 100 EUR for it is ridiculous? I know there is very few services offering more but I recommend to avoid it unless a necessity since it claims to operate in most countries. Otherwise I didn't find reviews for it, TTM stands for to the moon bank apparently
sr. member
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December 08, 2020, 05:37:00 AM
#38
spectrocoin.com only sends cards to European Economic Area countries

https://spectrocoin.com/en/countries.html (  do not send cards to my country, but they put my parents on that list, I had to contact support and they will confirm that they do not send a card to my country )

OP I think you need to fix this and also from what I see there are no cards that are sent to any corner of the world (except for the paycent that uses Chinese cards)

Since, I believe, 2015 anything denominated in EUR has absolutely no way to be worldwide, but strictly confined to EEA citizen or permanent resident at least. All those services will gladly firtst take all of your verification data before letting you know that you're not eligible (the reason why all these benchmarking takes about them are awful).  True, some of them may let you hold the account open with constraints on usage that render the whole service basically useless, but in no way will they let you have a debit card outside of EEA.



spectrocoin.com only sends cards to European Economic Area countries

https://spectrocoin.com/en/countries.html (  do not send cards to my country, but they put my parents on that list, I had to contact support and they will confirm that they do not send a card to my country )

OP I think you need to fix this and also from what I see there are no cards that are sent to any corner of the world (except for the paycent that uses Chinese cards)

Paycent most probably not working.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53680325

[moderator's note: consecutive posts merged]
hero member
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October 28, 2020, 11:01:00 AM
#37
Coinbase Card launches in the US.


source: torinaimage.pw

With this card, you can make purchases on the Internet and in stores, using crypto for this, and there is also a 4% cashback on the card in the form of crypto rewards. 4% are rewards in Stellar Lumens (XLM), for Bitcoin only 1%.

Details here: https://blog.coinbase.com/coinbase-card-launches-in-the-us-8608e72cd0b5
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