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Quote from: Symmetrick on July 05, 2022, 09:43:51 AM

Visa has released a new crypto credit card - bitcoinblack, but only for residents of Dubai and the United Arab Emirates:

Judging by the articles they've featured in before ^{[e.g. this one]}, it seems that they first launched in Canada so I don't think it's limited to wealthy UAE residents...
^{- They've also used the following line in various places on their website: "Limited to 10,000 members worldwide"}

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Quote from: Symmetrick on July 06, 2022, 10:04:55 AM

Anonymous = means safe? In my country, too, at one time there was an anonymous payment card with a minimum limit, it was perfectly used in various telephone frauds and petty extortions, so in the future no one wanted to accept payments from it. This anonymous card may also have the same fate.

No, anonymous means that I don't have to submit my whole life history (maybe even blood type) like for bitcoinblackcreditcard, just so I could get fake Unlimited forever stamp Cheesy

On card I mentioned there is a limit for a reason, and I don't think that is a bad thing.

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Quote from: Symmetrick on July 06, 2022, 07:19:02 AM

I don't know what is its uniqueness with such download limits, 250$? This is not a card in the broadest sense of the word, but just a beautiful little thing, as a gift for a crypto beginner it can fit, and it is almost pointless to use it as a card with such limits. It would be unique if there was a limit of at least 1 bitcoin.

There are reloadable cards option (there are confirmed reports of cards accepting more than $250), or you can just buy ten, hundred or 1000 separate cards and load them all with $250 if you want to spend more,
this is ANONYMOUS card, not some shitcoin scam cards like Voyager, Celsius or fake unlimited BitcoinBlack card that gets blocked each time when bitcoin market crashes and their token dies.

RIP
https://www.investvoyager.com/debitcard/
RIP
https://celsius.network/
RIP
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Recently, FTX announced a debit card: https://card.ftx.com

Card features:

- No commissions, card free, but third-party fees are possible.
- Cryptocurrency on your FTX account available on your card, and also automatically converted to the desired currency.

On the timing of the issue and the available regions will be announced later.

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Quote from: Symmetrick on July 05, 2022, 09:43:51 AM

The world's first crypto card that does not have any spending limits. There is also a 10% cashback in SPND tokens. To order, you will need to provide data on your annual income, as the card is designed for customers with high purchasing power.

All this crypto cards that have earning rewards in some shitcoins, in this case $spend token, are high risk especially if they don't have limits like this one.
I would be very careful using any of them with larger amount of money, and they can end up similar like Celsius did with their card that stopped all withdrawals, swap and transfers.

Lets move to some positive news, I didn't see CoinDebit card mentined anywhere in your list.
This is one of the first working fully anonymous cards for up to $250, but it currently works only in United States.
I wouldn't go wild using this card everywhere, there are some risks and it can be refused in some places, but it can be useful and it's unique card.

https://www.coindebit.io/

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Quote from: Symmetrick on June 23, 2022, 08:48:50 AM

In general, if you seriously delve into this aspect, then the first exchange that announced its crypto debit card was the Bitfinex exchange, it was back in 2015, but the first exchange that not only announced, but was able to issue a physical plastic card was precisely Coinbase, yes.

The first exchange with their plastic cards was Bitcurex in August 2012: https://web.archive.org/web/20121021142209/http://shop.bitcurex.com/product.php?id_product=10 Obviously also no KYC at the time.

The next one after them was BitInstant, I think, although I don't remember if they actually managed to launch it.

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Quote from: DarkStar_ on December 19, 2021, 03:07:35 AM

If this list is still being maintained, I'd recommend an update to the MCO Visa Card. They rebranded to become the Crypto.com (CDC) Visa Card a while back, and added quite a few more countries including Canada, Brazil, the UK and Australia.

Thanks. Yes, this list is supported and I already see several changes on the cards, now including your update. I will update soon.

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Quote from: dkbit98 on June 24, 2022, 05:46:20 AM

There is one small project that has legit card without kyc (coindebit.io) like I wrote before, but it is only available in United States, both for spending and for issuing physical cards.

If what they are saying on their website is true and you maximum amount that you can have on card is only $250, that makes it very impractical for every day use. I also see that they are hiding their fees (did you maybe find out that info?) which from my experience usually means that they are quite high so combo of those two things would most probably make it unusable for me even if its available in Europe.

Quote from: dkbit98 on June 24, 2022, 05:46:20 AM

We can always find a way to play around the rules and regulations, and we the people are the majority, so we don't always have to roll-off and accept everything they are offering us.

I am all up for trying to avoid rules and regulations, but I am also realistic about compromises needed to be made in order to use crypto debit card in an efficient way.

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Quote from: Rikafip on June 24, 2022, 01:41:32 AM

Since regulations are only getting tighter, I think that a legit and usable non KYC crypto debit card with reasonable fees is unfortunately nothing but a pipe dream.

There is one small project that has legit card without kyc (coindebit.io) like I wrote before, but it is only available in United States, both for spending and for issuing physical cards.
We can always find a way to play around the rules and regulations, and we the people are the majority, so we don't always have to roll-off and accept everything they are offering us.

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Ledger announced a debit card in early 2022:

Announcement: Wallet provider Ledger launches crypto debit card

Debit Card will be available for use in the UK, France and Germany. Supported cryptocurrencies include BTC, ETH, USDT, EURT, USDC, XRP, BXX, BCH, and LTC. The Ledger Live application will be used to transfer funds, and the infrastructure will be provided by Baanx.

Site with a card: https://cl-cards.com/waiting-list/

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Quote from: dkbit98 on June 23, 2022, 01:54:33 PM

On their website they say there are no annual or transaction fees, but they could charge some fees for trading crypto and for fiat conversion when you spend or buy something with KuCard.

Yeah I saw that part, its pretty much standard thing when it comes to crypto debit cards, nothing new there.

Quote from: dkbit98 on June 23, 2022, 01:54:33 PM

They are still testing this card so we don't know how usable it will be in real life, and I won't open new kyc account just to get this card.

It will be very hard for them to compete with Binance, at least here in Europe. Competition is a good thing though for us users, so I say bring it on.

Quote from: dkbit98 on June 23, 2022, 01:54:33 PM

I am hoping that someone will create legit usable no-kyc card that works in Europe and worldwide.

Since regulations are only getting tighter, I think that a legit and usable non KYC crypto debit card with reasonable fees is unfortunately nothing but a pipe dream.

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Quote from: Rikafip on June 23, 2022, 08:03:43 AM

So after FTX announced their card, Kucoin decided to go down the same road. Btw , where you maybe able to find any info about fees and withdrawal limits?

On their website they say there are no annual or transaction fees, but they could charge some fees for trading crypto and for fiat conversion when you spend or buy something with KuCard.
They are still testing this card so we don't know how usable it will be in real life, and I won't open new kyc account just to get this card.
I am hoping that someone will create legit usable no-kyc card that works in Europe and worldwide.

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Quote from: Symmetrick on June 23, 2022, 08:48:50 AM

The same applies to cards of payment services that work with cryptocurrency, for example, the advcash card also has a very limited cash withdrawal limit. I think this is due to the regulation around cryptocurrencies, and regulators do not want people to be able to withdraw a lot of cash through banking systems using crypto cards.

Not only cryptocurrency cards are affected with the relatively low limits, but the regular ones issued by banks as well (albeit withdrawal limits are higher). For example, card issued by my bank has 5000 kuna daily withdrawal limit (approximately 660 euro) so its a little bit more than a double of Binance card. Big advantage of Binance card is that daily spending limit is 8700 euro which should be enough for 99.99% users.

Its all probably about governments not liking the thought of us withdrawing money without them knowing on what exactly we are spending it.

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Quote from: Symmetrick on June 23, 2022, 07:41:30 AM

It is unlikely that the development of the card could have been carried out even earlier, and Binance became the pioneer among exchange cards, if I am not mistaken, other exchanges also began to follow this trend. Most likely, FTX just released this product earlier, and Kucoin is still testing it.

Hm I thought that Coinbase was the first exchange that release debit cards as IIRC one friend got his Coinbase card back in 2019 while Binance card came to Europe in mid 2020 and I got mine few months after that. But Binance one is immensely more popular, at least here in Croatia.

Quote from: Symmetrick on June 23, 2022, 07:41:30 AM

It is known that no money will be taken for issuing a card, and it will also be free in terms of annual maintenance. Withdrawal limits and commissions for purchases will be announced, most likely when it is officially launched.

So pretty much the standard stuff and its good to see how situation changed compared to 4-5 years ago when Wirex had fees for every possible thing making it very impractical to use. What i would like to see is debit card with high daily ATM withdrawal limit as Binance allows only 290 euro which can be quite restricting.

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Quote from: Symmetrick on June 22, 2022, 05:56:26 PM

KuCoin exchange launches its Kucard crypto debit card: https://www.kucoin.com/kucard

So after FTX announced their card, Kucoin decided to go down the same road. Btw , where you maybe able to find any info about fees and withdrawal limits?

Since Kucoin is one of the rare exchanges where I don't have to do KYC I think that I will skip this offer. After all, Binance card works almost flawlessly for me (except some weird contactless feature issues every once in a wqhile), so no reason to give my data to yet another exchange.

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Quote from: OmegaStarScream on June 08, 2022, 08:45:14 AM

Not sure how they managed to pull this off but Edge wallet just launched a fully KYC-free MasterCard (U.S)[1]. The card doesn't require any kind of personal information (that includes email and phone numbers) and allows you to spend up to 1K$ per day.

[1] https://decrypt.co/102279/edge-releases-first-confidential-bitcoin-mastercard

Anyone used them? I guess it's no KYC but they probably reserve the right to ask you to undergo KYC at any moment.

edit: checked the dedicated thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/edge-issues-mastercard-without-kyc-5401874
US only, some other caveats, and they're putting the program on hold anyway: https://edge.app/blog/company-news/official-announcement-edge-card/

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Quote from: OmegaStarScream on June 08, 2022, 08:45:14 AM

Not sure how they managed to pull this off but Edge wallet just launched a fully KYC-free MasterCard (U.S)[1]. The card doesn't require any kind of personal information (that includes email and phone numbers) and allows you to spend up to 1K$ per day.

[1] https://decrypt.co/102279/edge-releases-first-confidential-bitcoin-mastercard

From what I understood after seeing their website, you don't have to do any KYC when creating an account in their plateforme and you can convert Bitcoin and few other cryptocurrencies to USD then send it to the card which doesn't require also KYC information. So far that's good when shopping online with a virtual card but could the card be denied when paying in shops outside of the USA?

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Not sure how they managed to pull this off but Edge wallet just launched a fully KYC-free MasterCard (U.S)[1]. The card doesn't require any kind of personal information (that includes email and phone numbers) and allows you to spend up to 1K$ per day.

[1] https://decrypt.co/102279/edge-releases-first-confidential-bitcoin-mastercard

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Not sure if you're interested in listing non-fiat cards but CoinCorner just released the "The bolt card" [1][2] (NFC) which can be used to pay for LN invoices.

[1] https://bitcoinmagazine.com/business/coincorner-releases-the-bolt-card-for-bitcoin
[2] https://twitter.com/CoinCorner/status/1526605214803017729

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Quote from: Symmetrick on October 09, 2020, 08:16:37 AM

WageCan -

INFO:

Card Type - MASTERCARD
Production Cost - $15.40
Supported Coins - BTC
Supported Countries - Wordwide
Service fee - $1 (mothly)
Fees - $0
ATM Withdraw - $2.5
Funding Methods - Wire transfer
Wallet Availability - YES

Op I ask to correct, the card costs $199

Quote from: OmegaStarScream on March 13, 2022, 03:31:05 AM

Quote from: aliitp2 on March 12, 2022, 08:07:32 PM

For advcash the first option why does it say master card ?? Am pretty sure they only provide union pay cards not master or visa !?…

AFAIK, they used to have MasterCard before, and currently, they have Visa cards but it's just for EU, Turkey, and Israel while UnionPay cards are for the rest of the world.

the strange thing is that their unionpay card does not reach my country even though the unionpay website itself says it reaches my country and even though all banks in my country say that the unionpay card is supported in my country, but on the website from advcash it says unionpay card is not supported in my country.

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