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Where did I say that he has to actively use all 100 accounts?

With that many accounts he can join the scam signature camps like 1xbit without any fears, join lotteries, giveaways, and if he is a teenager with lots of free time yes he can manage and post with multiple accounts. Not done, he can use his army of alts to support his narratives and create a presudo forum rockstar.

He can create topics and only post himself as different users, create fake dialogs and nobody would notice.

I think It is possible. Only thing he needs is, time and determination and yes, it would pay, a lot.

Not really. You can't maintain 100 alts with decent quality to earn from 100 signature campaigns. There was one guy doing it for a very long time with 3 alts (and maybe more that we don't know about), but there's no way someone can maintain much more than that and keep his post quality high enough to earn more than just bounty spamming.

Now you guys mentioned it... I recalled The Ghoul (presumably alt) posting a Chinese image link some time back, which I hardly ever saw as far as I remember:


Source: https://github.com/marktext/marktext/issues/426

This definitely sounds very sus.

I understand what you mean. Here I express my opinion. I hope you will read my article carefully. Let’s take Triffin’s Dilemma as an example:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.57574343

First of all, the title of my article is "Bitcoin and Triffin Dilemma". I combined the historical event of Triffin Dilemma to illustrate my understanding of Bitcoin. The ultimate goal is to explain the status of Bitcoin's future development.

Triffin’s dilemma is a known historical event. It belongs to common sense problems in economics and history. The conclusion of Triffin’s dilemma is also a well-known conclusion in history. I use this point of view to illustrate my understanding of Bitcoin. Anyone with a background in history and economics can explain in detail what the Triffin dilemma is. This is common-sense and universal information. The Triffin dilemma is explained in detail in the wiki. I put the wiki here to let more people understand what Triffin’s dilemma is.

From this point of view, I have come to the conclusion that Bitcoin will be the best choice for super-sovereign currencies. We will eventually get a new global currency and financial system with Bitcoin as the core.

In this article, the Triffin dilemma is a known historical event. The subject of my article is about Bitcoin, which is an independent point of view. The other articles are similar, you can read them carefully. If you still have any questions, I can explain to you the origin of the point of view in each article.

I explained my understanding of Bitcoin from different perspectives through specific events in history. Every article is the result of my deep thinking. I recorded the thought process and finally came to my conclusion. Should we describe a known historical event as evidence of plagiarism?

I’d still like to see an explanation from @RainbowKun to what @nutildah pointed to here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.57786379

The highlighted text points to a clear, albeit small (but relevant) text spinning from Wikipedia on a given phrase concerning the Triffin Dilemma. We seem to be tiptoeing away from addressing this issue.

Of course, we could also add to the equation at least 5 posts that were edited today to add a reference to Wikipedia or else, which has been included today:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.57545893
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.57580263
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.57574343
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.57560295
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.57480332

So you aren't as smart as I thought. How disappointing.

The accounts are fairly new so I don't see how they're going to make a lot of money in those accounts, they can't join the campaigns in the forum since there's a requirement for ranks and sometimes merit received and I think that the accused don't seem to have the time to do all of those especially knowing how the accused makes their threads really long. Plus, there's no damning evidence that it's an account farm.

You kind of took your quote out of context. Yes you can earn money on this forum and yes if you have an army of decently ranked accounts you can earn a lot. I don't know how well these Twitter and what not campaigns pay because I don't even have an active Twitter account and would also not consider participating anyway due to lack of time. I have tried with my account to get into one of the casino sig campaigns but that was close to impossible, also because I have times where I just can't be present.

To make a lot of money off of this forum as I see it you need to have highly ranked accounts, a strong reputation and a lot of time.

If someone (here: allegedly RainbowKun) starts out to farm a 60 alt account army with the posting quality he creates (no matter whether we like the content, but just the effort he seems to be putting in), how the heck do you see him ever get near the level to finally make that pay off? This is what I don't get. I am not denying you can earn money on this forum. For someone who is unknown and doesn't provide specific services to the forum, it is almost impossible as a newbie to ever get to one of the higher ranks. Maybe Senior, but Hero/Legendary, not really. Unless you only post in the right threads. I mention this because Loyce even pointed out that RainbowKun is posting in the wrong places to get merits. So considering that this RainbowKund guy even posted in the wrong places, decreasing his chances substantially to receive a decent amount merits, does make the allegations of Ratimov even more unlikely to be true. That is just my opinion, but what does my opinion account here?

Anyway, let's see how this pans out. In the private discussions I had with RainbowKun about scientific research I can only tell I was never of the opinion that he could be an account farmer. No account farmer would ever put the effort into private conversations besides managing 60 + alt accounts on top of managing the main account posting pages long articles almost every day.

You can milk the shit of this forum with 100 alts. I am sure you are smart enough to figure how.

I never wanted to hurt anyone, nor did I intend to be an enemy of anyone. I have been focusing on writing for these two months. But now I have suffered the most vicious attack. My reputation has been severely damaged. I am particularly angry about this and I am disappointed that there is such a scum on the forum. He will definitely pay the price for its slander.

With the difference being that money laundering actually makes you money. He gave away most of his smerits to well established forum members. Now if we say that he is really really sophisticated and clever in his approach, trying to ramp up 60 + accounts, he needs about 6000 merit points to bring his 60 accounts to Full Member status, assuming that he evenly distributes the merit among his accounts all the time. He wouldn't do that though because he is sophisticated. So he rather needs about 20,000 merit points and would still know it looks suspicious. I just don't get the point here, am I missing something? What the hell would this dude's motivation be to write these insane walls of texts, some of which I myself checked for copyright violations, in order to rank up his alt account army? When is he even going to post with this allegedly 60 + alts army sufficiently often in order to rank them up, giving them smerit without getting detected etc. You probably get the point.

Simultaneously discusses with me scientific research via PM. Ironically speaking, if this is his way to build an alt army and he one day achieves his goal, I'd be impressed. When I don't have the time (which happens quite often as I am self-employed) to be active here on this forum and post frequently, I can't even manage to fulfill my sig campaign requirements. If this guy is running the RainbowKun account and 60 more alts, that really makes me laugh. Only possibility would be if he employs people to help him out, but then still, are there so many accounts that actually got merit and ranked up yet? If the allegations were true, is he making progress with his evil plan?

This is like money laundering.

When you raise tens of hundreds of alts, and produce some good quality word salads, you'll attract some legit forum users as well.

Exchanges, casinos and mixers do that all the time. Their big customers are CP sellers, drug sellers, terrorists etc but it is your legit money that washes their huge dirty money.

I am not saying that Rainbowdude is a acc farmer or not even though the evidences that were provided kinda make sense. I just didn't look deeply into it.

I am just saying what he could be doing here. So any legit dude that merited Rainbow is now being used against us.

I have been accused severally for merit begging because according to them I do not merit lower ranking members. I merit only established members.
When the accusations were ongoing, a user @PastorNick entered my profile, compiled all the topics I created from inception, also analysed the boards I post and the merits I recieved from each board. Very nice tabular work with links to the topics inserted.
Who among us here will have smerit without meriting such a user for an excellent work??
I just wish all these distractions will end and everyone enjoys the forum.

He was not banned because of you being his alt account, but because he made multiple plagiarism with translation from chinese and presented it as his own words.

Yes, mv1986, thank you for your recommendation at the time. I really only had 17 merits at that time. I had a great time communicating with you. Until today, few people really understand the value of my philosophical articles about Bitcoin, because most people will just think of them as a wall of words when they see them. You are my soulmate, we can conduct academic exchanges very well. I am particularly disappointed with bitcointalk now. Here is mixed with violence. I believe that if your level is not a hero but a novice, you may also be regarded as my alt. Blessings for you.




I was very angry, because kxwhalexk wrote a post related to me and it was regarded as my alt, until today I was implicated in it. This is the biggest falsehood.

Finally it is happening. Some super nerd with too much free time is trolling the fuck out of the forum with ~100 accounts and possibly will end the forum for good.

I have one question for you:
- Are you sad because your twin friend and biggest fan supporter kxwhalexk is now banned for plagiarism?

Oh don't worry, we are all on some lists, but you can just continue dancing like a butterfly every day  

Maybe you are just getting old and eyesight is getting weaker
I am not sure for all accused members are being Rainbow alts, but I was mostly suspecting on kxwhalexk.

Seriously, @Ratimov, just check when I recommended him for some merits because I was following his posts for a while. I agree with Loyce here and I also had a private conversation with RainbowKun where we exchanged research papers. Does anyone really think that farming shit posters would deal with

"Nested Institutions and the Retardation of the Adaptive Process" - Sung Chull Kim*  

or

"Human ultrasociality and the invisible hand: foundational developments in evolutionary science alter a foundational concept in economics"

 - David Sloan Wilson · John M. Gowdy

or

"The Empathic Civilization" by Jeremy Rifkin. (https://www.ted.com/talks/jeremy_rifkin_the_empathic_civilization)

?

With all due respect, but RainbowKun also tells the truth when he says to never have begged for a single merit. It was me who recommended him, then he went from 17 merits to where he is now...  If he is an account farmer, well, hats off to him! Probably the best and most ambitious one I have ever seen, all for just getting some merits to feed his 60 + accounts as claimed by Ratimov.

Really?

Edit: I am all against account farmers, but this would be an enormously out of order case of what we are used to here on this forum. Just my two cents.
@Ratimov I value the type of analysis you did in regards to its depth, but this guy RainbowKun, something doesn't add up here. He is deeply scientifically interested, writes back in private. He could have asked me to comment publicly to let his threads shine even more due to activity. That was not the case. I don't know...

When I created big tables, I took inspiration from other posts that made very nice tables. That doesn't make me the same person.

Well, I tried to give him a chance to correct his plagiarism. Too bad it wasn't enough to change his ways.
I'm still not convinced he's part of a large alt gang, but who knows, maybe I'm just getting soft and too hopeful.