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donator
Activity: 3108
Merit: 1166
July 05, 2012, 08:15:38 AM
@cedus, it's .32 BTC insurance I believe

last week just 3 bonds would have sold if the minimum had been 1.04 or 1/1000 of the issue, the maximum interest is now then 24% or 6% per week which with funds insured for 32% gives 8.825% interest per week on funds that are actually at risk which is more than can be found anywhere else even direct from pirate on max interest, in fact a bid of 1.09 still would give a 7% per week return on funds at risk so not shabby at all, I wouldn't be too quick in writing off these offerings - ppl have basically been getting free insurance recently but when factored in this new minimum bid price is extremely fair imo
newbie
Activity: 46
Merit: 0
July 05, 2012, 05:35:40 AM
PLEASE NOTE:  Starting with this sale and going forward, in accordance with a motion passed by the owners and stockholders of PPT and PPT.DIV, the minimum acceptable bid will be raised from 1.00 BTC to 1.04 BTC per bond.

You should have done that gradually: 7/07 1.01 BTC minimum, 7/14 1.02 etc. I'm not interested to taking part to this "let's donate some money to those .DIV owners who have bought their hugely overpriced shares believing they'll get .42 BTC from the insurance fund when PPT closes down" issuance. I also see your next auction as a massive failure.
legendary
Activity: 2053
Merit: 1356
aka tonikt
July 05, 2012, 03:36:17 AM
PLEASE NOTE:  Starting with this sale and going forward, in accordance with a motion passed by the owners and stockholders of PPT and PPT.DIV, the minimum acceptable bid will be raised from 1.00 BTC to 1.04 BTC per bond.
Well, good luck then with selling 3000... Tongue
You should have called it "close down the business" motion Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1004
July 04, 2012, 05:37:04 PM
 Shocked
GLBSE ‏@GLBSE
trade:[email protected]:PPT.E:1341439711

Someone really wants out of Pirate bonds.
legendary
Activity: 2618
Merit: 1007
July 01, 2012, 07:38:00 AM
Again our customers got great deals this week!  They got insured and backed bonds with yields that rival or surpass the other uninsured pass through deposits and bonds!
Not compounded that is... 7% weekly > 28% 4-weekly

The insurance however makes the current cheap deals quite a bit better than some of the uninsured returns, especially for small/tiny investors that can't compound on the weekly deals.
newbie
Activity: 46
Merit: 0
July 01, 2012, 03:41:49 AM

Updated the file already? Last one I can see is PPT.E @ 6/22/2012.
full member
Activity: 184
Merit: 100
Feel the coffee, be the coffee.
June 29, 2012, 09:01:16 PM
Got me some at 1.01, great deal !
legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1004
June 29, 2012, 03:11:42 PM
What is it with people and screwing up their bids on PPT?
newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
June 28, 2012, 07:57:12 PM
legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1004
June 22, 2012, 09:01:48 PM
CHECK YOUR BIDS NOW!!
At least the fat fingers were only for 22 shares this time instead of 250.

Another perfectly timed auction, thanks. Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1004
June 21, 2012, 11:19:09 PM
3k for tomorrow?
legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1004
June 20, 2012, 10:46:37 AM
I just checked on PPT.E and there is currently a bid for 1 at 0.04.  This is either a typo or someone that does not understand that the lowest price these bonds are ever sold at is 1.000 - the sales does not go lower than that.
Either that or someone just messed up their 3000 shares at 0.00001 that always get placed up.
donator
Activity: 3108
Merit: 1166
June 16, 2012, 07:24:47 PM
Gah, I had a buy order for PPT.E that disappeared when the dividend happened, and now the BTC is still listed as unavailable in my account. Does anyone know to fix that without opening a support ticket?
It's a known bug. Nef has to correct it manually.

Unfortunately he takes forever to do this, I've had over 130 BTC tied up unusable for a fortnight now, despite posts, PMs & emails to support & his personal address.

I'm hopeful you don't know what a fortnight is and you think that it means a quarter of a day, because if this takes two weeks+ to be resolved I'm going to be upset. Wink

Edit: Got this email today.
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Fixed.

GLBSE support.
Pretty good support time on the weekend there.

mine too got sorted out today (2 weeks interest on that sum tied up would have earned me over $150 @ pirate.inc) & yes it's probably thanks to me patiently sending reminders & bitching about it that made yours resolve so fast
hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
June 16, 2012, 02:29:59 PM
legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1004
June 16, 2012, 09:25:41 AM
Gah, I had a buy order for PPT.E that disappeared when the dividend happened, and now the BTC is still listed as unavailable in my account. Does anyone know to fix that without opening a support ticket?
It's a known bug. Nef has to correct it manually.

Unfortunately he takes forever to do this, I've had over 130 BTC tied up unusable for a fortnight now, despite posts, PMs & emails to support & his personal address.

I'm hopeful you don't know what a fortnight is and you think that it means a quarter of a day, because if this takes two weeks+ to be resolved I'm going to be upset. Wink

Edit: Got this email today.
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Fixed.

GLBSE support.
Pretty good support time on the weekend there.
hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 500
June 16, 2012, 09:22:41 AM
Maybe instead of having to spend time manually fixing people's account balances, nef should add a line of code to the buyback function to cancel all outstanding orders. As an asset issuer, I would also like to see this as a separate option that may be used by the issuer before making a price sensitive announcement.
donator
Activity: 3108
Merit: 1166
June 16, 2012, 07:11:10 AM
Gah, I had a buy order for PPT.E that disappeared when the dividend happened, and now the BTC is still listed as unavailable in my account. Does anyone know to fix that without opening a support ticket?
It's a known bug. Nef has to correct it manually.

Unfortunately he takes forever to do this, I've had over 130 BTC tied up unusable for a fortnight now, despite posts, PMs & emails to support & his personal address.
legendary
Activity: 2053
Merit: 1356
aka tonikt
June 16, 2012, 06:05:33 AM
We sold 3k just like we always do.  The 6k issue was an error.
Maybe selling that 6k was an error - but it also was your best deal so far Smiley
Code:
2012-04-21 1500 1.07255
2012-04-28 2000 1.08122
2012-05-05 2000 1.08374
2012-05-12 2500 1.10021
2012-05-19 6000 1.11758
2012-05-26 3000 1.03798
2012-06-02 3000 1.06625
2012-06-09 3000 1.04627
2012-06-16 3000 1.03296

Now I understand why the price of PPT.DIV has gone down to 1.0, after the last sell.
hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
June 16, 2012, 01:54:17 AM
Gah, I had a buy order for PPT.E that disappeared when the dividend happened, and now the BTC is still listed as unavailable in my account. Does anyone know to fix that without opening a support ticket?
It's a known bug. Nef has to correct it manually.
Thanks, I'll have to make a note of it for next week.


So, unless I counted wrong the average sale price here was 1.033BTC, which is the lowest it's ever been. At that price, PPT is a steal unless you're positive Pirate won't default. 1.28/1.033 is a 24% 4 week return, even if you buy one of the uninsured Pirate pass through bonds you'd only make 26.7% 4 week return. If you can invest the weekly dividends with no inefficiency, you could increase that to 29.5%. Getting perfect efficiency reinvesting would require placing a buy order between getting the dividends and Goat buying down to 1.02 for TYGRR-P, or purchasing the 100 shares at 1.05 that bitfoo places every week after his dividend.

Lowering the bonds being released by half does not instill confidence.

We sold 3k just like we always do.  The 6k issue was an error.

Ah, I see now.  I thought it was being increased.
vip
Activity: 574
Merit: 500
Don't send me a pm unless you gpg encrypt it.
June 16, 2012, 01:53:08 AM
Gah, I had a buy order for PPT.E that disappeared when the dividend happened, and now the BTC is still listed as unavailable in my account. Does anyone know to fix that without opening a support ticket?
It's a known bug. Nef has to correct it manually.
Thanks, I'll have to make a note of it for next week.


So, unless I counted wrong the average sale price here was 1.033BTC, which is the lowest it's ever been. At that price, PPT is a steal unless you're positive Pirate won't default. 1.28/1.033 is a 24% 4 week return, even if you buy one of the uninsured Pirate pass through bonds you'd only make 26.7% 4 week return. If you can invest the weekly dividends with no inefficiency, you could increase that to 29.5%. Getting perfect efficiency reinvesting would require placing a buy order between getting the dividends and Goat buying down to 1.02 for TYGRR-P, or purchasing the 100 shares at 1.05 that bitfoo places every week after his dividend.

Lowering the bonds being released by half does not instill confidence.

We sold 3k just like we always do.  The 6k issue was an error.
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