Topic: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated. - page 15. (Read 89558 times)
July 06, 2014, 05:42:58 PM
There isn't one rating guide that that I've seen that puts DirectBet ahead of Anonibet or Nitrogen.
July 06, 2014, 05:17:42 PM
If a player wants to do that they should bet at an exchange with much better odds than you offer.
We offer much greater odds than Anonibet, the top rated Bitcoin Sportsbook in your biased, paid ratings list.
How come you never complain about the ridiculously low odds that Anonibet offers ?
That's because you are biased. They pay you to keep quiet about that.
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DirectBet should just cancel orders if not accepted within 30 seconds
That's not a good idea.
Some of our clients prefer to order the bet but send the amount they wish to bet later on while watching the game.
Furthermore, some clients place bets using funds they withdraw from other Bitcoin Sportbooks or exchanges and such withdrawals are usually not instant so there is a gap between the time the bet is ordered to the time the amount to bet is transferred.
You have an option to cancel your bet if it arrives late as I described in my previous post.
July 06, 2014, 05:04:56 PM
You have high limits and a player may make a 20 BTC without getting immediate confirmation if the bet is good or not. He may have to wait one hour, because of a software flaw that you have before getting a bet confirmed. The player isn't allowed to cancel the bet during this waiting period.
Bets are either confirmed or rejected instantly, as soon as they are received.
If you are concerned that your bet transfer may be delayed by your wallet, and want an option to cancel your bet if it arrives later than planned, we do offer such an option.
You can order a negotiated bet and set the odds to 1000 (unrealistic). Then wait for your bet to arrive.
Once your bet arrives and is set to Negotiate state, if you are no longer interested in the bet, you can cancel it. If and when you are interested in the bet, change the odds to the current odds and your bet will confirm instantly. By doing it this way, you will have full control on when your bet is confirmed, just like you have with deposit books, and with an option to cancel your bet if it arrives late.
We would have to beat you to the punch to cancel negotiated odds. If a player wants to do that they should bet at an exchange with much better odds than you offer.
DirectBet should just cancel orders if not accepted within 30 seconds instead of leaving us at your mercy with what could be hours with firm odds because of delays with the wallet, blockchain or DirectBet.
July 06, 2014, 04:58:50 PM
You have high limits and a player may make a 20 BTC without getting immediate confirmation if the bet is good or not. He may have to wait one hour, because of a software flaw that you have before getting a bet confirmed. The player isn't allowed to cancel the bet during this waiting period.
Bets are either confirmed or rejected instantly, as soon as they are received.
If you are concerned that your bet transfer may be delayed by your wallet, and want an option to cancel your bet if it arrives later than planned, we do offer such an option.
You can order a negotiated bet and set the odds to 1000 (unrealistic). Then wait for your bet to arrive.
Once your bet arrives and is set to Negotiate state, if you are no longer interested in the bet, you can cancel it. If and when you are interested in the bet, change the odds to the current odds and your bet will confirm instantly. By doing it this way, you will have full control on when your bet is confirmed, just like you have with deposit books, and with an option to cancel your bet if it arrives late.
July 06, 2014, 04:53:40 PM
If all goes well with the World Cup, Casinobitco.in will be getting an upgrade now that they have been in business over one year. No official upgrades were made during the World Cup and will not be made until after the World Cup.
July 06, 2014, 04:17:14 PM
DirectBet- Those are all lies that we have been over numerous times. I have told you, and the books can confirm, that no one pays me to post at bitcointalk. Please stop with the misinformation. Posters in your thread are posting that you lie. You don't see this with other books. None of the other books are claiming, "foul" with the ratings other than you.
Book information is what is relevant and no one is getting stiffed by a book or slow paid at this time other than "D" rated books. If that happens, it will be reported and it doesn't matter which book it is. The biggest problem that I see right now, and posters deserve to be warned, is with DirectBet.
You have high limits and a player may make a 20 BTC without getting immediate confirmation if the bet is good or not. He may have to wait one hour, because of a software flaw that you have before getting a bet confirmed. The player isn't allowed to cancel the bet during this waiting period.
Book information is what is relevant and no one is getting stiffed by a book or slow paid at this time other than "D" rated books. If that happens, it will be reported and it doesn't matter which book it is. The biggest problem that I see right now, and posters deserve to be warned, is with DirectBet.
You have high limits and a player may make a 20 BTC without getting immediate confirmation if the bet is good or not. He may have to wait one hour, because of a software flaw that you have before getting a bet confirmed. The player isn't allowed to cancel the bet during this waiting period.
July 06, 2014, 03:53:18 PM
Peeps Place
First, you should disclose that you are getting paid by our competitors to advertise and promote them in forums.
You are getting paid by Anonibet, Cloudbet and Nitrogen, and this ratings guide is a disguised advertisement vehicle for them.
The idea is simple. Rate them on top of all others, set the ratings rules so that no other Sportsbook can be rated higher and make the false impression that they are better than others.
Very clever way to advertise, except that we revealed your scam, provided evidence and kept pressing until you finally admitted that you are indeed getting paid by these books to promote them in forums (although you claimed that the payment is for advertising them in other forums, just not "this forum").
For those of you who are interested, the relevant discussion starts here :
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6452025
These books also pay to advertise on your forums :
http://www.peepsplace.com/
Recently, DirectBet has become very popular, many clients from the books that you represent moved to bet on our website, and you are trying to get them back by spreading false information on DirectBet.
Second, you never post here any complain on any of the above books that pay you.
There have been many complaints on Anonibet but you keep silent. Just this week someone claims they are holding his 7 BTC withdrawal for more than a week :
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--672929
CloudBet thread here is full of complaints too.
No word from you on these issues. When you post about the books that pay you, it is just positive news and promotions. This is another evidence that your opinion is biased.
Third, in regards to your recent bets on our website, you have placed many bets with us in the past and you know how it works. You have to send your bet transfer and wait to see if your bet is confirmed or not. This is clearly explained when you order a bet.
Your wallet delayed the transfer of 2 of your recent bets by a few minutes. We can not take responsibility for delays by 3rd parties wallets.
You then asked us to refund your losing bet because you "did not know" it was confirmed. It was your responsibility to wait for your bet confirmations.
We find it unreasonable that you did not know that your bet was confirmed because you placed the exact same bet on the same game 45 minutes later. It is also unreasonable that you were not interested in the bet since you placed it again later. I'm sure you wouldn't have returned your winnings had your bet won.
Perhaps other Bitcoin Sportbooks refund your losing bets because they are afraid you will otherwise reduce their ratings. We don't.
All your bets were processed according to our rules, which are clearly stated on our website. There was no wrong doing on our end. Your previous post is full of false information as I have already clarified here in my previous posts.
Bitcointalk members are not fools. These are paid ratings.
First, you should disclose that you are getting paid by our competitors to advertise and promote them in forums.
You are getting paid by Anonibet, Cloudbet and Nitrogen, and this ratings guide is a disguised advertisement vehicle for them.
The idea is simple. Rate them on top of all others, set the ratings rules so that no other Sportsbook can be rated higher and make the false impression that they are better than others.
Very clever way to advertise, except that we revealed your scam, provided evidence and kept pressing until you finally admitted that you are indeed getting paid by these books to promote them in forums (although you claimed that the payment is for advertising them in other forums, just not "this forum").
For those of you who are interested, the relevant discussion starts here :
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6452025
These books also pay to advertise on your forums :
http://www.peepsplace.com/
Recently, DirectBet has become very popular, many clients from the books that you represent moved to bet on our website, and you are trying to get them back by spreading false information on DirectBet.
Second, you never post here any complain on any of the above books that pay you.
There have been many complaints on Anonibet but you keep silent. Just this week someone claims they are holding his 7 BTC withdrawal for more than a week :
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--672929
CloudBet thread here is full of complaints too.
No word from you on these issues. When you post about the books that pay you, it is just positive news and promotions. This is another evidence that your opinion is biased.
Third, in regards to your recent bets on our website, you have placed many bets with us in the past and you know how it works. You have to send your bet transfer and wait to see if your bet is confirmed or not. This is clearly explained when you order a bet.
Your wallet delayed the transfer of 2 of your recent bets by a few minutes. We can not take responsibility for delays by 3rd parties wallets.
You then asked us to refund your losing bet because you "did not know" it was confirmed. It was your responsibility to wait for your bet confirmations.
We find it unreasonable that you did not know that your bet was confirmed because you placed the exact same bet on the same game 45 minutes later. It is also unreasonable that you were not interested in the bet since you placed it again later. I'm sure you wouldn't have returned your winnings had your bet won.
Perhaps other Bitcoin Sportbooks refund your losing bets because they are afraid you will otherwise reduce their ratings. We don't.
All your bets were processed according to our rules, which are clearly stated on our website. There was no wrong doing on our end. Your previous post is full of false information as I have already clarified here in my previous posts.
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Peeps Place, the gold standard when it comes to rating bitcoin sportsbooks
Bitcointalk members are not fools. These are paid ratings.
July 06, 2014, 01:25:17 PM
Please post any books that aren't listed.
"A" rated books
Anonibet A (2011)
"B"rated books
NitrogenSports B+ (2012)
"C" rated books
Casinobitcoin C+ (2013)
Cloudbet C+ (2013)
SBObitcoin C+ (2013) *
Betcoinsports C (2013)
DirectBet C (2013)
Jetwin C- (2013)
BetOWI C- (2014) *
"D" rated books
Coindraft D+ (2014)
Roadbet D+ (2012)
BetVIP D+ (2014)
Webetcoins D+ (2014)
Gobetgo D+ (2014)
Bitcoinlivebets D- (2013)
"F" rated books
BetCas F
Bitcoinsport F
Coinbet F
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC
NR
Darkbet
Betmoose
Fairlay
Cointeller
Bitbook
xbet.io
Pocketrocketscasino.eu/sports
Predictious
tdsports
* longer accepting cash deposits
Maximum grade based upon time in business:
A - 2 years
B - 1 year
C - 3 months
D - 1 month
F - reserved for books that are slow paying or stiffing players
"A" rated books
Anonibet A (2011)
"B"rated books
NitrogenSports B+ (2012)
"C" rated books
Casinobitcoin C+ (2013)
Cloudbet C+ (2013)
SBObitcoin C+ (2013) *
Betcoinsports C (2013)
DirectBet C (2013)
Jetwin C- (2013)
BetOWI C- (2014) *
"D" rated books
Coindraft D+ (2014)
Roadbet D+ (2012)
BetVIP D+ (2014)
Webetcoins D+ (2014)
Gobetgo D+ (2014)
Bitcoinlivebets D- (2013)
"F" rated books
BetCas F
Bitcoinsport F
Coinbet F
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC
NR
Darkbet
Betmoose
Fairlay
Cointeller
Bitbook
xbet.io
Pocketrocketscasino.eu/sports
Predictious
tdsports
* longer accepting cash deposits
Maximum grade based upon time in business:
A - 2 years
B - 1 year
C - 3 months
D - 1 month
F - reserved for books that are slow paying or stiffing players
July 06, 2014, 01:18:51 PM
DirectBet has had 3 cases in the last few days where player's money was held in limbo for up to 7 minutes. I understand DirectBet's point of view in that they cannot accept the bet until it hits the blockchain and that there can be delays that aren't the fault of DirectBet. That excuse still doesn't help the player since our money can be out of our control without us knowing if we have a bet until the conclusion of the game. There has now been another problem where DirectBet held the money not telling the player if he had a bet or not.
I've had my personal disagreements with DirectBet as well as unprofessional communications. I put all of that aside when grading books and posting information concerning a book. That said, it's not recommended to bet a substantial amount of money with DirectBet since they have delays that can be easily fixed. DirectBet should not allow bets to be open for extended periods of time. They have the ability to cancel bets after an order has been placed but for some reason their system currently allows for these bets to be open until the game is final and we don't have the ability to cancel it. Deposit books are a much better avenue for live bets than DirectBet.
I've had my personal disagreements with DirectBet as well as unprofessional communications. I put all of that aside when grading books and posting information concerning a book. That said, it's not recommended to bet a substantial amount of money with DirectBet since they have delays that can be easily fixed. DirectBet should not allow bets to be open for extended periods of time. They have the ability to cancel bets after an order has been placed but for some reason their system currently allows for these bets to be open until the game is final and we don't have the ability to cancel it. Deposit books are a much better avenue for live bets than DirectBet.
July 04, 2014, 10:49:23 PM
Upgrade notice from Nitrogen.
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Hey everyone,
We wanted to take a moment to talk about the downtimes we experienced in the month of June. A lot has happened over the last month, and we know that most hasn’t necessarily been “visible” to you, our users.
We experienced a large increase in our user base, and we’ve been working through some growing pains. On June 14th, some of you may have noticed the website start to slow down during peak hours, especially during the chat giveaways.
Since then, we’ve completely upgraded our server architecture and hardware - this was completed on June 20th.
This upgrade has virtually eliminated the slowness issues we were experiencing, and ensures that we’ll be able to more seamlessly handle growth in the future. The server upgrade was a big project (with a lot of moving parts) and was the cause of some of the additional downtime to a portion of our users this past weekend. We do our best to anticipate these types of issues and to let you know when we plan downtime. Unfortunately, on June 29th we missed updating the forums for that period. While some of our users may not have been affected, we would like to apologize to those that were.
In addition to the scaling / user growth side of things, as we’re getting more popular, we’re also having to deal with more frequent DDOS attacks. One of the largest was experienced by our host, and international routing channels were actually switched over due to the size of this attack. We were not the only book that felt this, as several very large FIAT books in Costa Rica were also affected during the same period.
Again, for everyone affected, we absolutely share your frustration. Nothing is worse for us than the website going down. We’re always working to bring it back up, as well as keeping you notified here and on Twitter as quickly as possible.
While we may not have seen the last of these growing pains, we do want to thank everyone that has stood by us during the issues last month. The larger we can grow the community and the more mainstream bitcoin becomes, the better it is not only for us, but for you as a bitcoin user as well.
We’d like to take this opportunity to announce a new feature on Nitrogen: “bet coupons”. Coupons are free bets that you can make on your Nitrogen account. They cost you nothing, and you get to keep whatever you win: no rollovers, no further betting requirements. We’ll be giving free bets away over the coming weeks on Twitter, the forum and in our chat room as we perfect them based on your feedback!
As a first trial of these coupons, we’ll be awarding some to the frequent users who bet with us during the month of June. If, during June 11 - July 1 you made at least 20 wagers on Nitrogen, then we’ve already credited your account with a free bet coupon. The value of the coupon is based on your average bet size during that period, up to a maximum of 0.1 BTC.
If you missed the 20 bet requirement, please check your account anyway. We’ve randomly selected and credited 500 additional accounts with a free coupon wager of 0.001. You don’t need a balance in your account to use the coupon, it’s just a free bet!
Thanks again for your patience; we’re incredibly lucky to have such loyal and fantastic bettors!
The Nitrogen Sports Team
We wanted to take a moment to talk about the downtimes we experienced in the month of June. A lot has happened over the last month, and we know that most hasn’t necessarily been “visible” to you, our users.
We experienced a large increase in our user base, and we’ve been working through some growing pains. On June 14th, some of you may have noticed the website start to slow down during peak hours, especially during the chat giveaways.
Since then, we’ve completely upgraded our server architecture and hardware - this was completed on June 20th.
This upgrade has virtually eliminated the slowness issues we were experiencing, and ensures that we’ll be able to more seamlessly handle growth in the future. The server upgrade was a big project (with a lot of moving parts) and was the cause of some of the additional downtime to a portion of our users this past weekend. We do our best to anticipate these types of issues and to let you know when we plan downtime. Unfortunately, on June 29th we missed updating the forums for that period. While some of our users may not have been affected, we would like to apologize to those that were.
In addition to the scaling / user growth side of things, as we’re getting more popular, we’re also having to deal with more frequent DDOS attacks. One of the largest was experienced by our host, and international routing channels were actually switched over due to the size of this attack. We were not the only book that felt this, as several very large FIAT books in Costa Rica were also affected during the same period.
Again, for everyone affected, we absolutely share your frustration. Nothing is worse for us than the website going down. We’re always working to bring it back up, as well as keeping you notified here and on Twitter as quickly as possible.
While we may not have seen the last of these growing pains, we do want to thank everyone that has stood by us during the issues last month. The larger we can grow the community and the more mainstream bitcoin becomes, the better it is not only for us, but for you as a bitcoin user as well.
We’d like to take this opportunity to announce a new feature on Nitrogen: “bet coupons”. Coupons are free bets that you can make on your Nitrogen account. They cost you nothing, and you get to keep whatever you win: no rollovers, no further betting requirements. We’ll be giving free bets away over the coming weeks on Twitter, the forum and in our chat room as we perfect them based on your feedback!
As a first trial of these coupons, we’ll be awarding some to the frequent users who bet with us during the month of June. If, during June 11 - July 1 you made at least 20 wagers on Nitrogen, then we’ve already credited your account with a free bet coupon. The value of the coupon is based on your average bet size during that period, up to a maximum of 0.1 BTC.
If you missed the 20 bet requirement, please check your account anyway. We’ve randomly selected and credited 500 additional accounts with a free coupon wager of 0.001. You don’t need a balance in your account to use the coupon, it’s just a free bet!
Thanks again for your patience; we’re incredibly lucky to have such loyal and fantastic bettors!
The Nitrogen Sports Team
July 04, 2014, 01:45:44 PM
Refunds aren't immediate as you keep repeating. My winner was refunded 17 minutes later.
You get an instant notification when your bet is rejected and it is then refunded after there is 1 confirmation in the Bitcoin network for your initial bet transfer.
So while the refund is transferred a few minutes later, you know right away whether your bet was confirmed or not.
I'm sorry that your bet arrived in a few minutes delay and hope that you will understand that this was not our fault.
Your wallet provider delayed the broadcasting of your bet transfer as I've showed you in my previous post.
We process bets as soon as they are received. We have no way to tell whether your transfer arrived in a delay or whether you intentionally wanted to send it some time after you ordered the bet on our website.
In the future, if you decide to bet at DirectBet again, we recommend that for time sensitive bets and for fastest instant Bitcoin delivery, you use the official Bitcoin Core client or its lighter version Multibit.
These wallets can be downloaded from https://bitcoin.org/en/choose-your-wallet
You will not have these delays when using the official wallet.
July 04, 2014, 12:15:08 PM
DirectBet - When bets aren't accepted, I keep making bets. Sometimes I'll keep making bets on the same team. Some times I will bet the other side. Live betting changes fast.
There is no longer any reason for me to play at DirectBet. As goxgoft alluded, the deposit books are much better for live bets since bet confirmations are fast and your bets aren't held for 7 minutes before deciding if the bet is good or not. Your system is also overly complicated.
I sent the money at 17:45 and it was received at 17:45 even though you say 17:52
Refunds aren't immediate as you keep repeating. My winner was refunded 17 minutes later. The rest of my answers will be in your thread.
There is no longer any reason for me to play at DirectBet. As goxgoft alluded, the deposit books are much better for live bets since bet confirmations are fast and your bets aren't held for 7 minutes before deciding if the bet is good or not. Your system is also overly complicated.
I sent the money at 17:45 and it was received at 17:45 even though you say 17:52
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Size 258 (bytes)
Received Time 2014-07-02 17:45:27
Included In Blocks 308912 (2014-07-02 18:12:04 +27 minutes)
Confirmations 313 Confirmations
Relayed by IP Blockchain.info
Visualize View Tree Chart
Received Time 2014-07-02 17:45:27
Included In Blocks 308912 (2014-07-02 18:12:04 +27 minutes)
Confirmations 313 Confirmations
Relayed by IP Blockchain.info
Visualize View Tree Chart
Refunds aren't immediate as you keep repeating. My winner was refunded 17 minutes later. The rest of my answers will be in your thread.
July 04, 2014, 12:07:50 PM
DirectBet- I've used DirectBet many times and the bet has always been canceled with long delays because of odd changes.
Many of your bets were rejected because you used the "Firm Odds" betting option while betting in-play.
We advised you many times in the past not to use the "Firm Odds" betting option while betting in-play in order to avoid rejections, but unfortunately you kept ignoring our advise.
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I kept betting and my winner was canceled.
You are providing false information here. All your rejected bets were rejected and refunded immediately, long before the result has been determined and regardless of the result. Some turned to be winners, and some turned to be losers, but that's irrelevant.
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I just wanted to make posters aware of what they may run into with DirectBet.
You questioned our integrity in public and so it is important for us to get to the bottom of things and prove that there was no wrong doing on our end.
I'm still looking forward to your answer :
You placed many bets on our website in the past. You should know by now that after sending your bet transfer, you have to refresh the bet status page and wait until your bet is either confirmed or rejected. If the status is 'No bets were received', it means that your bet transfer has not been delivered yet and you should check back later.
45 minutes after you placed the first bet (the one that arrived in 7 minutes delay and was confirmed), you placed another identical bet on the same game.
So if you kept betting on our website on the same game 45 minutes later, why didn't you check the status of your earlier bets before placing another identical bet ?
July 04, 2014, 10:49:29 AM
DirectBet- I've used DirectBet many times and the bet has always been canceled with long delays because of odd changes. I kept betting and my winner was canceled. Then you say that you accepted the loser 7 minutes later.
That's the last I have to say in this thread about my bet so that I don't clog it up further. I just wanted to make posters aware of what they may run into with DirectBet.
That's the last I have to say in this thread about my bet so that I don't clog it up further. I just wanted to make posters aware of what they may run into with DirectBet.
July 04, 2014, 07:23:54 AM
Hey guys,
Why not give us a try at BetVIP.com? We've got the usual double your deposit bonus (up to 1BTC), but then we've also got this awesome World Cup accumulator bonus where if you win a 4 leg accumulator that includes each of the quarter-finals matches then you get a 25% boost on your winnings.
Here's our Match Preview for today if anybody's interested too
Cheers,
BetVIP
Why not give us a try at BetVIP.com? We've got the usual double your deposit bonus (up to 1BTC), but then we've also got this awesome World Cup accumulator bonus where if you win a 4 leg accumulator that includes each of the quarter-finals matches then you get a 25% boost on your winnings.
Here's our Match Preview for today if anybody's interested too
Cheers,
BetVIP
July 04, 2014, 04:57:21 AM
Peeps, in case you still have any doubts about our integrity, here is another proof from a 3rd party block chain explorer that your bet transfer was delivered on 17:52 as we claimed all along and not any time earlier :
https://www.biteasy.com/blockchain/transactions/f33f82da7e486509b45ab23b965b5ae789c5ae64cf1a08230249235562420fdc
https://www.biteasy.com/blockchain/transactions/f33f82da7e486509b45ab23b965b5ae789c5ae64cf1a08230249235562420fdc
July 04, 2014, 02:59:03 AM
DirectBet - "Next time try the "Negotiate Odds" betting option instead.
The "Negotiate Odds" betting option is superior to the "Firm Odds". Now that we've improved it, there isn't really any need for the "Firm Odds" option anymore."
One reason for maintaining the "Firm Odds" option is that people like myself would not consider making a bet at the "Negotiate Odds" method.
I don't have an opinion on the dispute between you and Peeps - I haven't read those too closely.
But as far as your glowing descriptions of "Negotiate Odds" - I feel quite sure that you have never bet sports, or at most a few times as a "recreational" bettor.
I can't imagine anyone with a clue wanting to attempt to place a bet with your "Negotiate Odds" option.
(And it's not necessary to describe how it works yet again - I understand how it works).
The "Negotiate Odds" betting option is superior to the "Firm Odds". Now that we've improved it, there isn't really any need for the "Firm Odds" option anymore."
One reason for maintaining the "Firm Odds" option is that people like myself would not consider making a bet at the "Negotiate Odds" method.
I don't have an opinion on the dispute between you and Peeps - I haven't read those too closely.
But as far as your glowing descriptions of "Negotiate Odds" - I feel quite sure that you have never bet sports, or at most a few times as a "recreational" bettor.
I can't imagine anyone with a clue wanting to attempt to place a bet with your "Negotiate Odds" option.
(And it's not necessary to describe how it works yet again - I understand how it works).
The negotiate odds betting option is very popular among our clients. It has the advantages of a betting exchange without the complicity or liquidity issues and allows you to obtain better odds for your bets.
Last month, the "Negotiate Odds" betting option was used 10 times more than the "Firm Odds" option.
I don't understand why you think it is useless. Have you tried it ? It's a powerful feature !
July 04, 2014, 02:44:59 AM
This is why “Deposit” books are much better: what you see is what you get, especially for In-Play betting. There are many BTC sportsbooks, who process withdrawals instantly – you will get your funds back much faster comparing to DirectBet. I don’t see any reasonable arguments to use DirectBet instead of Nitro for example.
These delays are very very rare. It also depends on the Bitcoin wallet that you're using. For fastest instant Bitcoin delivery, we recommend using the official Bitcoin Core client or its lighter version Multibit. Your bets will get delivered and confirmed instantly when using these wallets.
Last time I checked Nitrogen didn't offer LIVE in-play betting.
July 04, 2014, 02:33:37 AM
DirectBet- The way your system worked is that I placed an order at 17:45. Then you gave me a bitcoin address to send the money. I sent the money at 17:45. I hit check status of bet. It said no bet received as the odds may have changed.
I looked at my account the next day and you didn't return the funds. I sent a PM to you and you confirmed that I placed the order at 17:45. You then said that you accepted the wager 7 minutes later.
I looked at my account the next day and you didn't return the funds. I sent a PM to you and you confirmed that I placed the order at 17:45. You then said that you accepted the wager 7 minutes later.
1) You placed many bets on our website in the past. You should know by now that after sending your bet transfer, you have to refresh the bet status page and wait until your bet is either confirmed or rejected. If the status is 'No bets were received', it means that your bet transfer has not been delivered yet and you should check back later.
2) 45 minutes after you placed the first bet (the one that arrived in 7 minutes delay and was confirmed), you placed another identical bet on the same game.
So if you kept betting on our website on the same game 45 minutes later, why didn't you check the status of your earlier bets before placing another identical bet ?
July 04, 2014, 01:48:09 AM
DirectBet - "Next time try the "Negotiate Odds" betting option instead.
The "Negotiate Odds" betting option is superior to the "Firm Odds". Now that we've improved it, there isn't really any need for the "Firm Odds" option anymore."
One reason for maintaining the "Firm Odds" option is that people like myself would not consider making a bet at the "Negotiate Odds" method.
I don't have an opinion on the dispute between you and Peeps - I haven't read those too closely.
But as far as your glowing descriptions of "Negotiate Odds" - I feel quite sure that you have never bet sports, or at most a few times as a "recreational" bettor.
I can't imagine anyone with a clue wanting to attempt to place a bet with your "Negotiate Odds" option.
(And it's not necessary to describe how it works yet again - I understand how it works).
The "Negotiate Odds" betting option is superior to the "Firm Odds". Now that we've improved it, there isn't really any need for the "Firm Odds" option anymore."
One reason for maintaining the "Firm Odds" option is that people like myself would not consider making a bet at the "Negotiate Odds" method.
I don't have an opinion on the dispute between you and Peeps - I haven't read those too closely.
But as far as your glowing descriptions of "Negotiate Odds" - I feel quite sure that you have never bet sports, or at most a few times as a "recreational" bettor.
I can't imagine anyone with a clue wanting to attempt to place a bet with your "Negotiate Odds" option.
(And it's not necessary to describe how it works yet again - I understand how it works).
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