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DirectBet

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Quote from: DirectBet on July 10, 2014, 05:39:32 PM

Quote from: Rating Place on July 10, 2014, 12:59:15 PM

I'm not pushing for a downgrade since forum opinion is the driving force for the the ratings.

That's another lie from Peeps Place, but unlike him, we are not just saying "you lie"... we prove it !

Today we are going to present you with another new evidence why Peeps Place is a scam.

But first we would like to make it clear that we NEVER reveal information on our clients in public, unless they go public first and spread FALSE information on DirectBet, as Peeps Place is doing.

A couple of months ago we revealed and proved for the first time that Peeps is getting paid by his top rated Sportbooks to promote them in forums.

Immediately afterwards, Peeps got upset and downgraded us from C to D in his forum (see capture below).

This is another evidence that his ratings guide is not "By the players, for the players", as Peeps is claiming, but rather "By Peeps, for the guys that pay him".

Also notice that Peeps Place, "the gold standard when it comes to rating bitcoin sportsbooks", is advising his followers in regards to DirectBet that "I wouldn't play at this shop".

What he forgot to tell them is that during the following month, he was betting frequently at DirectBet, to the point where he earned a VIP reward, a bonus that is reserved to our most loyal clients !

Peeps is lying to his own crowd !!!

Do you think that Peeps Place has the creditability to rate Bitcoin Sportbooks, given that those he rates the highest are paying him to advertise and promote them ?

Please come and vote in our thread here

LOL !!!

I replied to your above post at PeepsPlace.com where you advised your followers not to bet at DirectBet. I wrote that contrary to your advise, you were betting frequently at DirectBet during the following month, to the point where you earned a VIP reward, a bonus that is reserved to our most loyal clients.

Guess what ? My post was deleted !

That's another evidence that you are a scam.

Honest people have nothing to hide. They don't need to delete posts to cover for their lies.

Rating Place

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The last book to ask posters for investments was Bit365. They went under. Bitcoinlivebets takes investments from posters.

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Posted concerning bitcoinlivebets https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=215014.1740

Today

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Hi,

please check the following withdraws:

118589
118621
118647
118667
118846
118895
119081
119126

im still waiting a couple of days.

And please payback 10 % of the Wettschein ID 56183

best regards

today

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Already the 11th of the month, no earnings posted for June?

today

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No live bets tonight?
Why is that?

July 2

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All right, now that your site is ok, I would like to remind you that you would check
my two bet-slips (oh, there is one more, I just see):

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Wettschein ID 54935 - kombi - abgegeben 29.06.2014, 21:53:22 Uhr
Nächstes Tor Halbzeit Alianza Lima - Juan Aurich 1 2.15
Nächstes Tor Halbzeit Alianza Lima - Juan Aurich X 3.00

Wettschein ID 54934 - einzel - abgegeben 29.06.2014, 21:52:22 Uhr
Toranzahl over/under 2.5 Alianza Lima - Juan Aurich Under 1.85

Wettschein ID 54933 - einzel - abgegeben 29.06.2014, 21:51:49 Uhr
Toranzahl over/under 3.5 Alianza Lima - Juan Aurich Under 1.34

they maked it: 0:0
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And pls, settle this bet-slip from yesterday also:

Wettschein ID 55122 - kombi - abgegeben gestern, 15:25:28 Uhr
Sieg Woodlands Wellington - Young Lions - 63. Minute 0:1 2 1.80
Einsatz: 0,025000 BTC (Einsatz je Schein 0,025000 BTC), möglicher Gewinn: 0,045000 BTC

Young Lions have won: 1:3

thank you

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Quote from: DirectBet on July 11, 2014, 04:22:44 PM

Quote from: Rating Place on July 11, 2014, 03:45:33 PM

DirectBet- What you say are lies.

I only presents the facts. I invite everyone to read the archive of this thread and see for themselves :

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6137493

I honestly asked you why were we rated lower than Anonibet. You couldn't explain and a few hours later you changed the ratings criteria in order to downgrade us and shut us up.

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Anonibet and Nitrogen are 1 and 2 on Ryans guide.

Yes and # 3 in Ryan's list is bitcoinlivebets.com, not far behind Anonibet.

You gave Anonibet A and bitcoinlivebets.com D-

How do you explain such a big difference between your ratings and the users ratings ?

There are two options :

1) The ratings in Ryan's thread is greatly influenced by shills accounts.

OR

2) bitcoinlivebets.com didn't pay you so you rated them D-

Which one is it ?

I have nothing against Ryan or his ratings so I try to stay away of any criticism since it's nice to have multiple rating guides.

bitcoinlivebets is a very shaky book. They have problems on almost a daily basis and automation is never fully working. Each person has different reasons for playing at a book. I think that bitcoinlivebets is at the top of the list of the next book to go under although I hope it's not the case.

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Quote from: Rating Place on July 11, 2014, 03:45:33 PM

DirectBet- What you say are lies.

I only presents the facts. I invite everyone to read the archive of this thread and see for themselves :

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6137493

I honestly asked you why were we rated lower than Anonibet. You couldn't explain and a few hours later you changed the ratings criteria in order to downgrade us and shut us up.

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Anonibet and Nitrogen are 1 and 2 on Ryans guide.

Yes and # 3 in Ryan's list is bitcoinlivebets.com, not far behind Anonibet.

You gave Anonibet A and bitcoinlivebets.com D-

How do you explain such a big difference between your ratings and the users ratings ?

There are two options :

1) The ratings in Ryan's thread is greatly influenced by shills accounts.

OR

2) bitcoinlivebets.com didn't pay you so you rated them D-

Which one is it ?

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Recommended books here are rated "B-" and above.

"A" rated books
Anonibet A (2011)

"B"rated books
NitrogenSports B+ (2012)
Betcoinsports B- (2013)
Casinobitcoin B- (2013)

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DirectBet- What you say are lies. The criteria was changed because that's what the posters wanted. Anonibet and Nitrogen are 1 and 2 on Ryans guide. This rating guide says the same. All guides have Anonibet and Nitrogen at top.

Ryan's ratings.

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4.3 nitrogensports.eu
4.1 anonibet.com
3.8 bitcoinlivebets.com
3.8 casinobitco.in
3.5 jetwin.com
3.3 coindrafts.com
3.3 directbet.eu

DirectBet

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I thought you were a good book at one time. We took your banner down paying 1%. As I stated in your thread, you started the smear campaign when your banner went down.

It all started when I went over the list of your ratings criteria, one by one, and proved that in each and every category we are as good or better than Anonibet, your top rated Bitcoin Sportsbook.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6137493

And so I honestly asked you why did you rate us lower ?

Just a few hours later you "suddenly" changed the ratings criteria !!! so that Anonibet can be the only Bitcoin Sportsbook with a rating of A and they were also granted the max possible rating of A, on top of all other books. Our rating on the other hand was reduced to C.

That is when it became obvious that your ratings guide is a disguised paid advertisement for Anonibet.

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"A" rated books
Anonibet A (2011)

"B"rated books
NitrogenSports B+ (2012)
Betcoinsports B- (2013)
Casinobitcoin B- (2013)

"C" rated books
Cloudbet C+ (2013)
SBObitcoin C+ (2013) *
DirectBet C (2013)
Jetwin C- (2013)
BetOWI C- (2014) *

"D" rated books
Coindraft D+ (2014)
Roadbet D+ (2012)
BetVIP D+ (2014)
Webetcoins D+ (2014)
Gobetgo D+ (2014)
Bitbm D
Bitcoinlivebets D- (2013)

"F" rated books
BetCas F
Bitcoinsport F
Coinbet F
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC

NR
Darkbet
Betmoose
Fairlay
Cointeller
Bitbook
xbet.io
Pocketrocketscasino.eu/sports
Predictious
tdsports

* longer accepting cash deposits

Maximum grade based upon time in business:

A - 2 years
B - 1 year
C - 3 months
D - 1 month
F - reserved for books that are slow paying or stiffing players

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Quote from: Rating Place on July 10, 2014, 11:38:07 AM

I want to bring this to the forum before making an upgrade. Betcoinsports now qualifies for a "B" rating since they opened in April of 2013. Betcoinsports was once rated "C+" but they were downgraded to "C" because of two hiccups. In both disputes the player and Betcoinsports posted their case in this thread. Posters agreed with the player in both instances and Betcoinsports paid the players.

Betcoinsports has now revamped their software. I personally feel that Betcoinsports should be upgraded to "B-". Is there anyone that feels the upgrade is unjustified?

No one seems to have a problem with the upgrade, Betcoinsports upgraded to "B-".

DirectBet

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Quote from: Rating Place on July 10, 2014, 06:29:32 PM

This is how books are rated:

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If we feel that a book is a top book, then we ask them to advertise. It only makes sense to have the top books as advertisers.

You are acknowledging here that we are a top book, because you did beg several times that we will advertise on your website.

Here is the proof :

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7714802

It was only after we turned off your hustling attempts that you started discrediting us publicly.

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Quote from: xinzark on July 10, 2014, 05:54:39 PM

I am voting for nitrogensports they have great support and giveaway have been playing there for while .

thanks for the input.

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I am voting for nitrogensports they have great support and giveaway have been playing there for while .

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DirectBet- You just proved my point that what I write at Peeplsplace.com is my personal opinion. No one should play at your shop.

At Bitcointalk some posters like you so your rating is a "C". My personal opinion is "D". Posters drive ratings at bitcointalk.

You should NEVER post personal information including emails. Is there anything in my post at peepsplace that is untrue?

1. You are a 1 or 2 man shop
2. You have no previous bookmaking experience.
3. You will post private information including emails and betting history.

DirectBet

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Quote from: Rating Place on July 10, 2014, 12:59:15 PM

I'm not pushing for a downgrade since forum opinion is the driving force for the the ratings.

That's another lie from Peeps Place, but unlike him, we are not just saying "you lie"... we prove it !

Today we are going to present you with another new evidence why Peeps Place is a scam.

But first we would like to make it clear that we NEVER reveal information on our clients in public, unless they go public first and spread FALSE information on DirectBet, as Peeps Place is doing.

A couple of months ago we revealed and proved for the first time that Peeps is getting paid by his top rated Sportbooks to promote them in forums.

Immediately afterwards, Peeps got upset and downgraded us from C to D in his forum (see capture below).

This is another evidence that his ratings guide is not "By the players, for the players", as Peeps is claiming, but rather "By Peeps, for the guys that pay him".

Also notice that Peeps Place, "the gold standard when it comes to rating bitcoin sportsbooks", is advising his followers in regards to DirectBet that "I wouldn't play at this shop".

What he forgot to tell them is that during the following month, he was betting frequently at DirectBet, to the point where he earned a VIP reward, a bonus that is reserved to our most loyal clients !

Peeps is lying to his own crowd !!!

Do you think that Peeps Place has the creditability to rate Bitcoin Sportbooks, given that those he rates the highest are paying him to advertise and promote them ?

Please come and vote in our thread here

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DirectBet- Your sole tactic is to denigrate competing sites along with rating guides where you are listed fairly low.

On another note, why do you keep posting emails or portions of emails of posters that disagree with you? ts11111 has a complaint and today you posted a portion of an email that he sent to you.

Posting private correspondence is something that you absolutely don't do as it is a breach of confidentiality. It's almost never done by the cash or bitcoin books. On the cash forums, books get slaughtered by posters for this breach.

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DirectBet- My personal opinion is that you should be rated much lower. I'd recommend that no one play for large amounts since their bet can hang in limbo for an hour. If the forum agrees with my personal opinion, then you would be downgraded instead of upgraded.

I'm not pushing for a downgrade since forum opinion is the driving force for the the ratings. At the same token, I don't see anyone calling for an upgrade and you are fairly low on all ratings sites.

You are not keeping up with the improvements of other books. While they are open to suggestions and are making improvements, you just put out fires with no improvements.

casinobitco

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Wow dude. "Much BS" if I wanted to quote my DogeCoin pals.

To say what you've said below is complete blasphemy and quite frankly irresponsible. With the amount of BTC we've raised publicly through Havelock, and independently, you can pretty much through your claim out the window. You can do the research - and you can view the public opinion of us and our players. The moment we have one issue with a payout is the day you can make these claims, until them - I'd suggest running your own site to the standards the community desires.

Quote from: DirectBet on July 10, 2014, 12:11:51 PM

Hi Peeps,

You rated CasinoBitcoin at B- and DirectBet at C.

Do you truly believe that betting on CasinoBitcoin, a Sportsbook that lost 70 BTC in bets since its inception, plus much more on operational expenses, which holds 50 BTC in user deposits and might have used it to cover for its losses, is safer than betting at DirectBet, a Sportsbook that does NOT take deposits and does NOT keep hold of your Bitcoins after the bet is over ?

We don't have anything against CasinoBitcoin, they seem to be nice guys and we appreciate their transparency.

We do however claim that this rating guide is a disguised advertisement for the books that Peeps Place want to promote, and we have proved that 3 of the top 4 rated books in this guide are paying him to promote them in forums.

We also claim that this thread is used as a platform to discredit and spread false and ill informed information on books that did not want to pay Peeps, such as DirectBet.

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Hi Peeps,

You rated CasinoBitcoin at B- and DirectBet at C.

Do you truly believe that betting on CasinoBitcoin, a Sportsbook that lost 70 BTC in bets since its inception, plus much more on operational expenses, which holds 50 BTC in user deposits and might have used it to cover for its losses, is safer than betting at DirectBet, a Sportsbook that does NOT take deposits and does NOT keep hold of your Bitcoins after the bet is over ?

We don't have anything against CasinoBitcoin, they seem to be nice guys and we appreciate their transparency.

We do however claim that this rating guide is a disguised advertisement for the books that Peeps Place want to promote, and we have proved that 3 of the top 4 rated books in this guide are paying him to promote them in forums.

We also claim that this thread is used as a platform to discredit and spread false and ill informed information on books that did not want to pay Peeps, such as DirectBet.

BetVIP

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Hypersire, have you tried our Virtual Football offering?

https://www.betvip.com/virtualfootball

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