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Topic: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated. - page 14. (Read 89556 times)

sr. member
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Merit: 250
For example your A and B rated bookies are missing important sports and horse racing books. Are you rating solely on website design and functionality ? If so they both look great but I wouldn't use them because
1. they require registration so the problem I ran from the standard bookies of restricting accounts could happen again so whats the point
2. I bet mostly on horse racing and they don't provide any bets for that

Without the reasoning behind a bookie rating it really looks like you're rating them higher as more money they give you, This tactic seemed to be the cause of issues with Directbet which refused to pay you so you downgraded them, however they should be at least been given a mention that 1. they don't provide registration so they can't restrict you which is a huge plus, and 2. they accept the widest variety of bets from the entire crypto bookies. That would be fair and if you find problems with their site also mention those so that newcomers can make educated decisions, you instead provide 5-10 bookies with A, B and C+ ratings and ask them for 1-2 btcs privately.
sr. member
Activity: 392
Merit: 250
I'm curious why hasn't anyone asked you the formula for these ratings. I know you're making this for free but still you should have some serious analysis and pubic reasons for downgrading or upgrading a bookie. If so why do you fail to mention them every time you move them from C to D or C to B ? Any rating organization has some reasoning behind their ratings so correct me if I'm wrong but your reasons seem to be the advertisement for the same bookies that you're rating.
legendary
Activity: 3878
Merit: 1061
BitBM lowered to D. There is an affiliation with cash post up book BetCascade.

"A" rated books
Anonibet A (2011)

"B"rated books
NitrogenSports B+ (2012)

"C" rated books
Casinobitcoin C+ (2013)
Cloudbet C+ (2013)
SBObitcoin C+ (2013) *
Betcoinsports C (2013)
DirectBet C (2013)
Jetwin C- (2013)
BetOWI C- (2014) *

"D" rated books
Coindraft D+ (2014)
Roadbet D+ (2012)
BetVIP D+ (2014)
Webetcoins D+ (2014)
Gobetgo D+ (2014)
Bitbm D
Bitcoinlivebets D- (2013)

"F" rated books
BetCas F
Bitcoinsport F
Coinbet F
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC

NR
Darkbet
Betmoose
Fairlay
Cointeller
Bitbook
xbet.io
Pocketrocketscasino.eu/sports
Predictious
tdsports


* longer accepting cash deposits



Maximum grade based upon time in business:

A - 2 years
B - 1 year
C - 3 months
D - 1 month
F - reserved for books that are slow paying or stiffing players
hero member
Activity: 560
Merit: 502
Mind your business.

Don't publicly beg the community to keep you from gambling if you don't want the community to keep you from gambling.

Actions have consequences.  You should know that by now.


What a joke you are DannyHamilton. Watch, next time you're looking to buy I'll MAKE SURE to sell you some BTC and send it straight from a sportsbook. I also GUARANTEE ill use you for escrow within the next 2 months to buy BTC. And once its completed ill make it known to you since it bothers you oh so much.
legendary
Activity: 3878
Merit: 1061
Looks like DirectBet has derailed us all again.
legendary
Activity: 3472
Merit: 4801
Mind your business.

Don't publicly beg the community to keep you from gambling if you don't want the community to keep you from gambling.

Actions have consequences.  You should know that by now.

hero member
Activity: 560
Merit: 502
Directbet, I had two wagers this week. Sent from a blockchain wallet so there should be ZERO delay. Both bets were not confirmed or rec'd by your site until 2 minutes after sending the wager. Your wallet recd and was shown on blockchain.info my amount I wagered both times and your site did not show my bet as rec'd until 2-3 minutes later for both. I did not complain as I got better odds and my bets both won HOWEVER, there is a very serious delay you guys have. Not using you guys until I see this is fixed.


You're still gambling?

I'm a degenerate gambler. . . I placed a bet that will never hit on some nobody . . . I'm now broke and can't do this anymore. Ive failed everyone in my life, my parents know of my problem and don't want anythingto do with me. I can't do this anymore . . . Im going to write a letter to my parents and my girlfriend and explain to them what happened . . . my problem will never get better . . .

Every casino or sportsbook owner. Ban any accounts you have related to me. If I've done business with you enough, trust me you will have heard from me at some point or another. Many owners know who I am. I will reach out individually and contact each of you directly at some point but not right now. I have a lot of work to do to get better.
Made a 1 BTC wager by truly mistake (a good amount of money to lose by mistake) which I realized only way I'd get any sympathy for and refund of (which i didnt even get) was to flip out about and claim "degenerate sob story". Mind your business.
legendary
Activity: 3472
Merit: 4801
Directbet, I had two wagers this week. Sent from a blockchain wallet so there should be ZERO delay. Both bets were not confirmed or rec'd by your site until 2 minutes after sending the wager. Your wallet recd and was shown on blockchain.info my amount I wagered both times and your site did not show my bet as rec'd until 2-3 minutes later for both. I did not complain as I got better odds and my bets both won HOWEVER, there is a very serious delay you guys have. Not using you guys until I see this is fixed.


You're still gambling?

I'm a degenerate gambler. . . I placed a bet that will never hit on some nobody . . . I'm now broke and can't do this anymore. Ive failed everyone in my life, my parents know of my problem and don't want anythingto do with me. I can't do this anymore . . . Im going to write a letter to my parents and my girlfriend and explain to them what happened . . . my problem will never get better . . .

Every casino or sportsbook owner. Ban any accounts you have related to me. If I've done business with you enough, trust me you will have heard from me at some point or another. Many owners know who I am. I will reach out individually and contact each of you directly at some point but not right now. I have a lot of work to do to get better.
hero member
Activity: 560
Merit: 502
Whatsbitcoin
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This bet was prevented from being a winner because of Directbet's problems...now i remember why I stopped betting with Directbet yesterday.

I sent the money within 30 seconds of this bet being offered and chosen...


however...it wasn't accepted until 5 minutes later when the game had less then 1 min to go AND was at 1.02 odds for no goal. The bet would have won...

http://directbet.eu/BetStatus.cshtml?BetID=1EwHLtr49ag914divciq2WQT48VzeYr3UC
In directbet's defense, 2 bets I made which were delayed multiple minutes did end up being winners (below) and confirmed at better odds (2.7 instead of 2.30 and I forget the other). However, that bet above which I made after the first two bets, did make me mad and not going to continue til I see some change. 1.24 to 1.02? Not right. Stop with the backandforth bullshit though. Its very unprofessional for both sides.

http://directbet.eu/BetStatus.cshtml?BetID=1BURkQCFCSPkP87KDQ6ZkMBa2V89EHdBys

http://directbet.eu/BetStatus.cshtml?BetID=1PYz8jQrbc4DeZHYqDVwR4h7kNH1EF1gzR
legendary
Activity: 3878
Merit: 1061
Whatsbitcoin
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This bet was prevented from being a winner because of Directbet's problems...now i remember why I stopped betting with Directbet yesterday.

I sent the money within 30 seconds of this bet being offered and chosen...


however...it wasn't accepted until 5 minutes later when the game had less then 1 min to go AND was at 1.02 odds for no goal. The bet would have won...

http://directbet.eu/BetStatus.cshtml?BetID=1EwHLtr49ag914divciq2WQT48VzeYr3UC
legendary
Activity: 1288
Merit: 1010
tins directed towards DirectBet

Hey Peeps, why don't you also quote his reply ?

Thank you for the great customer service at DirectBet! You guys really are the top crypto currency betting site around.
sr. member
Activity: 462
Merit: 250
Just use a deposit book and avoid this issue entirely Smiley

Looking forward to seeing you over at BetVIP.com,

Kind regards,
BetVIP Support
legendary
Activity: 3878
Merit: 1061
tins directed towards DirectBet
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I sent an email with my 3 bets that didn't pay out last night until after I went to sleep, causing me to miss funds for additional bets. I asked for the .01btc bet to be placed on bet ID: 18re5ZZMAeD5uy4hZas5umLjonsQM7t1fv (BJ Penn over Frankie Edgar).
My email was not answered and the 0.01 btc was not put on this bet for me.
I could PM my email address to you if need be. I sent the email at 10:47am central time and included the transaction details of the 3 bets that were not settled anywhere close to within an hour after the UFC fights last night.
legendary
Activity: 1288
Merit: 1010
Directbet, I had two wagers this week. Sent from a blockchain wallet so there should be ZERO delay. Both bets were not confirmed or rec'd by your site until 2 minutes after sending the wager. Your wallet recd and was shown on blockchain.info my amount I wagered both times and your site did not show my bet as rec'd until 2-3 minutes later for both. I did not complain as I got better odds and my bets both won HOWEVER, there is a very serious delay you guys have. Not using you guys until I see this is fixed.

Which wallet were you using ?

I'd appreciate if you could PM me the bet IDs for further investigation.
newbie
Activity: 59
Merit: 0
Directbet just perpetuates lies. They held up my bet for 30 minutes. This should be a self moderated thread.

I asked you for the bet ID so that we can look into it but you didn't want to send it, so I can't help you.

Please e-mail your bet ID to [email protected] and we will investigate it.

If it turns out that there was a problem on our end we will compensate you.
I sent you an email and told you that I don't want to give you the information since you post emails and transactions of other players on this forum. I like to keep my privacy and don't want .01 for your mistakes. I want you to fix the problem.
legendary
Activity: 1288
Merit: 1010
Directbet just perpetuates lies. They held up my bet for 30 minutes. This should be a self moderated thread.

I asked you for the bet ID so that we can look into it but you didn't want to send it, so I can't help you.

Please e-mail your bet ID to [email protected] and we will investigate it.

If it turns out that there was a problem on our end we will compensate you.
hero member
Activity: 560
Merit: 502
Peeps Place

First, you should disclose that you are getting paid by our competitors to advertise and promote them in forums.

You are getting paid by Anonibet, Cloudbet and Nitrogen, and this ratings guide is a disguised advertisement vehicle for them.

The idea is simple. Rate them on top of all others, set the ratings rules so that no other Sportsbook can be rated higher and make the false impression that they are better than others.

Very clever way to advertise, except that we revealed your scam, provided evidence and kept pressing until you finally admitted that you are indeed getting paid by these books to promote them in forums (although you claimed that the payment is for advertising them in other forums, just not "this forum").

For those of you who are interested, the relevant discussion starts here :

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6452025

These books also pay to advertise on your forums :

http://www.peepsplace.com/

Recently, DirectBet has become very popular, many clients from the books that you represent moved to bet on our website, and you are trying to get them back by spreading false information on DirectBet.

Second, you never post here any complain on any of the above books that pay you.

There have been many complaints on Anonibet but you keep silent. Just this week someone claims they are holding his 7 BTC withdrawal for more than a week :

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--672929

CloudBet thread here is full of complaints too.

No word from you on these issues. When you post about the books that pay you, it is just positive news and promotions. This is another evidence that your opinion is biased.

Third, in regards to your recent bets on our website, you have placed many bets with us in the past and you know how it works. You have to send your bet transfer and wait to see if your bet is confirmed or not. This is clearly explained when you order a bet.

Your wallet delayed the transfer of 2 of your recent bets by a few minutes. We can not take responsibility for delays by 3rd parties wallets.

You then asked us to refund your losing bet because you "did not know" it was confirmed. It was your responsibility to wait for your bet confirmations.

We find it unreasonable that you did not know that your bet was confirmed because you placed the exact same bet on the same game 45 minutes later. It is also unreasonable that you were not interested in the bet since you placed it again later. I'm sure you wouldn't have returned your winnings had your bet won.

Perhaps other Bitcoin Sportbooks refund your losing bets because they are afraid you will otherwise reduce their ratings. We don't.

All your bets were processed according to our rules, which are clearly stated on our website. There was no wrong doing on our end. Your previous post is full of false information as I have already clarified here in my previous posts.

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Peeps Place, the gold standard when it comes to rating bitcoin sportsbooks

Bitcointalk members are not fools. These are paid ratings.
Directbet, I had two wagers this week. Sent from a blockchain wallet so there should be ZERO delay. Both bets were not confirmed or rec'd by your site until 2 minutes after sending the wager. Your wallet recd and was shown on blockchain.info my amount I wagered both times and your site did not show my bet as rec'd until 2-3 minutes later for both. I did not complain as I got better odds and my bets both won HOWEVER, there is a very serious delay you guys have. Not using you guys until I see this is fixed.
newbie
Activity: 59
Merit: 0
Here are all the complaints the last couple of days with DirectBet.

We have replied to each and every complaint in great details on our thread.

I invite anyone who is interested to visit our thread and read what we had to say.

While you are there, please take a moment to vote. We have added a new poll :

Do you think that Peeps Place has the right to rate Bitcoin Sportbooks, given that those he rates the highest are paying him to advertise and promote them ?

Yes or No ?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/directbet-live-sportsbook-racebook-now-accepting-ether-393147

 Directbet just perpetuates lies. They held up my bet for 30 minutes. This should be a self moderated thread.
legendary
Activity: 1288
Merit: 1010
Here are all the complaints the last couple of days with DirectBet.

We have replied to each and every complaint in great details on our thread.

I invite anyone who is interested to visit our thread and read what we had to say.

While you are there, please take a moment to vote. We have added a new poll :

Do you think that Peeps Place has the right to rate Bitcoin Sportbooks, given that those he rates the highest are paying him to advertise and promote them ?

Yes or No ?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/directbet-live-sportsbook-racebook-now-accepting-ether-393147
legendary
Activity: 3878
Merit: 1061
Here are all the complaints the last couple of days with DirectBet.

7/4 ts11111 fortunately had a screenshot
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You are blatantly lying to justify not confirming my Fischer bet at 5.6.

You say it was never at 5.6, but I ordered it and it automatically populated the current odds of 5.6

Check my screenshot - I have never ordered a bet and typed in 5.6 as my desired odds.

7/4 This is my complaint. I understand DirectBet's point of view that the bet didn't enter the blockchain until 7 minutes after I sent it. That still is a problem since it can be hours instead of 7 minutes
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....... I placed an order at 17:45. I received a bitcoin address and sent the money at 17:45. DirectBet acknowledged that I sent it at 17:45.  Now he is saying that he didn't know. He accepted it 7 minutes later. There is no reason for us to wait 7 minutes before knowing if DirectBet is going to accept the bet.

7/4 ts11111 in response to DirectBet. ts11111 may have not been right but it's the posted lies by DirectBet that are worrisome.
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LIES!!!!

Per your  email from last night:

"The odds never reached 5.6. 4.6 was the highest until you canceled the bet.
It's possible that you didn't refresh the page and saw outdated odds."

7/4
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wow really? im never using DB again if they dont fix this for you ts111 thats bogus

7/5 Talkingbread
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I may be your biggest player but I'm not letting you hold my BTC7 for half an hour until you decide bet. My BTC now goes to books with instant confirmations.

7/5 Josepht
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When will I receive payout? http://www.directbet.eu/BetStatus.cshtml?BetID=1G9pY4KPPJtqM2FYjBnW5t3kFmRJpL7KjU

I used to receive a payout in 10 minutes after the contest ended. It is 2.5 hours now.

Edit: payout received.

7/5 ts11111 and then reply by RyanK
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yeah same... wtf?

DirectBet today. Their wallet was clogged so confirmations took 3 minutes.
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According to our records it took 3 minutes from the time that you ordered the bet on our website to the time it was confirmed.

Apparently part of the delay was because our Bitcoin wallet was clogged as at that particular moment we received an unusual number of bets on this game simultaneously.

I'm sorry for the short delay, we are working to improve this.

Today cc5t
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Whats going on with the site? Seems to have went down during the UFC fight and now I havent been paid my winnings?

Today cc5t
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just sent an email. It has been over 3 hrs since the ufc ended

Today Grumpster
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If you had accounts and ways to deposit to the account (they could be optional and you could keep the current system as a secondary one) then people wouldn't face this problem anymore and nobody would need to complain about the change of odds during the time it takes for the transaction to register and the system to confirm the bet.
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