I would also like you to know that I have 21GB of data.
Lol 
If this turned into a pissing contest, I would like you to know your post is already added to my data, and thus contributes to my journey towards 22 GB 
Topic: [130 weeks] [Updated Jul 10] LoyceV's Trust list viewer - Create your own! - page 22. (Read 22309 times)
November 07, 2019, 08:45:12 AM
If this turned into a pissing contest, I would like you to know your post is already added to my data, and thus contributes to my journey towards 22 GB 
November 07, 2019, 08:39:55 AM
I've been following a hosting saga in a different venue and the story sounds similar. Everything's fine until it just isn't and whoops somebody over-promised and under-delivered but hey we took your money already so jog on.
I wish you every success in getting back online, maybe it won't involve too much more drama. I've often thought about trying out serveria.com's advertised offering, because he's here, but haven't even talked to him about it.
I would also like you to know that I have 21GB of data.
I wish you every success in getting back online, maybe it won't involve too much more drama. I've often thought about trying out serveria.com's advertised offering, because he's here, but haven't even talked to him about it.
I would also like you to know that I have 21GB of data.
November 07, 2019, 08:20:21 AM
Is your server down? haven't been able to connect for ~12 hours.
More or less: It was out of disk space yesterday, so I opened a ticket. To be clear: I've only used 20% of my hosting package, but the server itself ran out of disk space. What's more worrying is that not only did my host not respond to the ticket I opened, their own website Kayhosting.com has been unreachable since yesterday too.
Judging by http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5299/, my (persistant) upload script managed to upload some files last night.
I have over 2.2 million files and 20 GB of data now and my current hosting has been working very well for the past months, but this is bad
Moving to a VPS would still be my long-term preferred option.
November 07, 2019, 07:23:31 AM
Trouble at mill?
hmm a very English reference, I'll rephrase
Is your server down? haven't been able to connect for ~12 hours.
hmm a very English reference, I'll rephrase
Is your server down? haven't been able to connect for ~12 hours.
October 26, 2019, 09:44:23 AM
Update:
The upload will taken another ~10 minutes to finish. Updating the top navigation bar gets slower and slower, I expect it done by the end of the weekend.
The upload will taken another ~10 minutes to finish. Updating the top navigation bar gets slower and slower, I expect it done by the end of the weekend.
October 19, 2019, 03:08:58 AM
Update:
It's still uploading (give it 15 minutes), but expect at least a full day to update the top-navigation bar. I should really find the time to fix that, it now uses a very large recursive loop that makes updating much slower every week.
It's still uploading (give it 15 minutes), but expect at least a full day to update the top-navigation bar. I should really find the time to fix that, it now uses a very large recursive loop that makes updating much slower every week.
October 12, 2019, 03:04:47 AM
Update (still uploading, give it 15 minutes):
The top-navigation-bar will be updated tomorrow.
On a related subject: I've published LoyceV's Beginners guide to correct use of the Trust system. I hope this guide can help more members to understand the difference between Trust feedback and Trust lists.
The top-navigation-bar will be updated tomorrow.
On a related subject: I've published LoyceV's Beginners guide to correct use of the Trust system. I hope this guide can help more members to understand the difference between Trust feedback and Trust lists.
October 05, 2019, 01:39:39 PM
Try darkviolet, deeppink or magenta colors as an option.
Thanks, I tried magenta:Quote
Trust list for: ScamViruS (Trust: neutral) (12 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) (created 2019-10-05_Sat_17.00h)
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ScamViruS Trusts these users' judgement:
1. NEW philipma1957 (Trust: +24 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (18) 905 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
2. NEW bones261 (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (704 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
3. NEW LoyceV (Trust: +23 / =4 / -0) (DT1! (51) 3703 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
4. NEW Coolcryptovator (Trust: +11 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (16) 833 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
5. NEW lovesmayfamilis (Trust: +11 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (8) 788 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
6. NEW TalkStar (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 315 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
ScamViruS Distrusts these users' judgement:
-
ScamViruS's judgement is Trusted by:
-
~ScamViruS's judgement is Distrusted by:
-
Source: LoyceV's Trust list viewer.
Get your own Trust list in BBCode at loyce.club/trust.
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ScamViruS Trusts these users' judgement:
1. NEW philipma1957 (Trust: +24 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (18) 905 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
2. NEW bones261 (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (704 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
3. NEW LoyceV (Trust: +23 / =4 / -0) (DT1! (51) 3703 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
4. NEW Coolcryptovator (Trust: +11 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (16) 833 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
5. NEW lovesmayfamilis (Trust: +11 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (8) 788 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
6. NEW TalkStar (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 315 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
ScamViruS Distrusts these users' judgement:
-
ScamViruS's judgement is Trusted by:
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~ScamViruS's judgement is Distrusted by:
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Source: LoyceV's Trust list viewer.
Get your own Trust list in BBCode at loyce.club/trust.
October 05, 2019, 04:07:31 AM
<...> Blue is not as visible as I would have hoped. I'm still open for better suggestions.
Try darkviolet, deeppink or magenta colors as an option.
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Trust list for: whyrqa (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) (created 2019-09-28_Sat_06.17h)
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whyrqa Trusts:
1.PancherBitCoin Banned! (Trust: neutral) (67 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
2. NEWHhampuz (Trust: +68 / =2 / -0) (1211 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
3. NEWLassie (Trust: neutral) (132 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
4. Ratimov (Trust: neutral) (107 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
<...>
Source: LoyceV's Trust list viewer.
Get your own Trust list in BBCode at loyce.club/trust.
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whyrqa Trusts:
1.
2. NEWHhampuz (Trust: +68 / =2 / -0) (1211 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
3. NEWLassie (Trust: neutral) (132 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
4. Ratimov (Trust: neutral) (107 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
<...>
Source: LoyceV's Trust list viewer.
Get your own Trust list in BBCode at loyce.club/trust.
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Trust list for: whyrqa (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) (created 2019-09-28_Sat_06.17h)
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whyrqa Trusts:
1.PancherBitCoin Banned! (Trust: neutral) (67 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
2. NEWHhampuz (Trust: +68 / =2 / -0) (1211 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
3. NEWLassie (Trust: neutral) (132 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
4. Ratimov (Trust: neutral) (107 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
<...>
Source: LoyceV's Trust list viewer.
Get your own Trust list in BBCode at loyce.club/trust.
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whyrqa Trusts:
1.
2. NEWHhampuz (Trust: +68 / =2 / -0) (1211 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
3. NEWLassie (Trust: neutral) (132 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
4. Ratimov (Trust: neutral) (107 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
<...>
Source: LoyceV's Trust list viewer.
Get your own Trust list in BBCode at loyce.club/trust.
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Trust list for: whyrqa (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) (created 2019-09-28_Sat_06.17h)
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whyrqa Trusts:
1.PancherBitCoin Banned! (Trust: neutral) (67 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
2. NEWHhampuz (Trust: +68 / =2 / -0) (1211 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
3. NEWLassie (Trust: neutral) (132 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
4. Ratimov (Trust: neutral) (107 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
<...>
Source: LoyceV's Trust list viewer.
Get your own Trust list in BBCode at loyce.club/trust.
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whyrqa Trusts:
1.
2. NEWHhampuz (Trust: +68 / =2 / -0) (1211 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
3. NEWLassie (Trust: neutral) (132 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
4. Ratimov (Trust: neutral) (107 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
<...>
Source: LoyceV's Trust list viewer.
Get your own Trust list in BBCode at loyce.club/trust.
October 05, 2019, 03:20:09 AM
Update:
It's currently uploading. However: I forgot to (manually) update the DT1-list, so yesterday's DT1-update isn't included yet. On top of that, Trust-scores are based on the previous DT1-list.
I'm updating both, but scraping all Trust scores takes a while. I expect to upload an update tonight (Amsterdam time).
Update: The above is all fixed!
The top navigation bar will take another day to update.
I'm updating both, but scraping all Trust scores takes a while. I expect to upload an update tonight (Amsterdam time).
Update: The above is all fixed!
The top navigation bar will take another day to update.
You can try the blue or royalblue color for NEW
Blue is not as visible as I would have hoped. I'm still open for better suggestions. September 29, 2019, 02:43:42 PM
I really like that.
I'll add it next week. Considering how often people refer to my Trust list viewer, it might actually help them to better understand Trust lists. 
September 29, 2019, 01:38:09 PM
I really like that. To me that's exactly what this portion of the overall trust system represents. I don't know how much it will stop the slighted feeling users get, but at least it is more clear and easier to explain to people now.
September 29, 2019, 01:33:10 PM
I probably trust some people who have ~ him so that’s why he’s done it.
By now it's virtually impossible to make a Trust list without conflicting Trust relations with other people. Say: A Trusts me but Distrusts B, I Trust B and C, and C distrusts B. You can't make everyone happy with your Trust list.I'll take some time to think on it but my initial thoughts are referring to this as a "Persona Feedback Network" "inclusions" and "exclusions" would be fine with almost no negative connotation. What's the 4th category? I'm on mobile at the moment.
How about this:Quote
Trust list for: LoyceMobile (Trust: neutral) (95 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) (created 2019-09-28_Sat_06.17h)
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LoyceMobile Trusts these users' judgement:
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LoyceMobile Distrusts these users' judgement:
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LoyceMobile's judgement is Trusted by:
1. HCP (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (1297 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
2. JollyGood (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (109 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
~LoyceMobile's judgement is Distrusted by:
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Source: LoyceV's Trust list viewer.
Get your own Trust list in BBCode at loyce.club/trust.
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LoyceMobile Trusts these users' judgement:
-
LoyceMobile Distrusts these users' judgement:
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LoyceMobile's judgement is Trusted by:
1. HCP (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (1297 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
2. JollyGood (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (109 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
~LoyceMobile's judgement is Distrusted by:
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Source: LoyceV's Trust list viewer.
Get your own Trust list in BBCode at loyce.club/trust.
September 29, 2019, 01:22:37 PM
It might help. I'm also in no way trying to cast blame on the data representation you provide, as far as I know you are using the correct terms.
I'll take some time to think on it but my initial thoughts are referring to this as a "Persona Feedback Network" "inclusions" and "exclusions" would be fine with almost no negative connotation. What's the 4th category? I'm on mobile at the moment.
I'll take some time to think on it but my initial thoughts are referring to this as a "Persona Feedback Network" "inclusions" and "exclusions" would be fine with almost no negative connotation. What's the 4th category? I'm on mobile at the moment.
September 29, 2019, 01:02:01 PM
@Steamtyme: would it help if I change the description for all 4 categories? And if so, what should it be?
September 29, 2019, 12:32:39 PM
I always feel like "Trust backstabbers" are the most sincere form of Trust list usage. As an example, these are all "Trust backstabbers" on theymos' Trust list:
~snip~
When evaluating someone's judgement, you should also look at their stance on Flags.
For example:
OgNasty's Personal Trust Flag viewer (to my surprise he's not supporting any Flags)
LFC_Bitcoin's Personal Trust Flag viewer (a very long list )
Yeah when it comes to Backstabbers you can be assured that at least 1 if not both parties truly understand the meaning behind the terms. Using "Trust" for the name of the list seems to cause problems from people feeling attacked. It makes it personal when it really isn't. I'll have to remember to use Flags as a metric, especially when trying to give advice in the future. ~snip~
When evaluating someone's judgement, you should also look at their stance on Flags.
For example:
OgNasty's Personal Trust Flag viewer (to my surprise he's not supporting any Flags)
LFC_Bitcoin's Personal Trust Flag viewer (a very long list
)I probably trust some people who have ~ him so that’s why he’s done it. My response was absolutely retaliatory, I’ve been on this forum since 2014 & never once scammed anybody or even for one second thought about it. If he doesn’t trust me then I can’t find myself able to trust him.
Not a problem I get it. Moving forward just try looking at it less as him not trusting you, that's just a poor choice of phrasing IMO, as stated above. Having been here so long, breaking the habit of seeing trust lists in that light will not likely come easy. I try to focus more on myself than how others are using the list, so I can't really speak to how OG does things or how often he changes his list or what his reasons are. You might have it correct, people's trust lists do fall under scrutiny especially if they near a DT1 inclusion so some will begin to exclude you if they disagree with your list.For me there are people I would trust with my money who I don't have on my list, because I don't value their feedback. There are also people I excluded that I would send money to first on a trade. Might seem backwards and counter intuitive but for me it makes sense.
September 29, 2019, 11:34:51 AM
It's your list and you are free to do as you see fit. Seeing as you put it out here though I don't follow this line of thinking; it just seems retaliatory. It would have made sense to me if you had thought more on OG's feedback and inclusions to decide if you agreed with it or not. If nothing else reaching out to him and inquiring as to why?
In a purely hypothetical as I have no insight into this. If they were just trying out a new list and the next week you were no longer ~ would you then remove the "favor"?
In a purely hypothetical as I have no insight into this. If they were just trying out a new list and the next week you were no longer ~ would you then remove the "favor"?
I probably trust some people who have ~ him so that’s why he’s done it. My response was absolutely retaliatory, I’ve been on this forum since 2014 & never once scammed anybody or even for one second thought about it. If he doesn’t trust me then I can’t find myself able to trust him.
September 29, 2019, 10:42:08 AM
Seeing as you put it out here though I don't follow this line of thinking; it just seems retaliatory. It would have made sense to me if you had thought more on OG's feedback and inclusions to decide if you agreed with it or not.
Agreed. Trust lists should ideally only be based on how you value the other person's judgement.I always feel like "Trust backstabbers" are the most sincere form of Trust list usage. As an example, these are all "Trust backstabbers" on theymos' Trust list:
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Trust list for: theymos (Trust: +26 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (62) 5269 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) (created 2019-09-28_Sat_06.17h)
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theymos Distrusts:
1. ~CanaryInTheMine (Trust: +31 / =0 / -0) (DT1 (-4) 22 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
3. ~Vod (Trust: +29 / =2 / -2) (DT1! (23) 1305 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
4. ~Tomatocage (Trust: +17 / =2 / -1) (202 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
10. ~KWH (Trust: +7 / =1 / -0) (45 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
13. ~FullLife (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
27. ~Saint-loup (Trust: neutral) (463 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
theymos is Trusted by:
24. CanaryInTheMine (Trust: +31 / =0 / -0) (DT1 (-4) 22 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
39. Vod (Trust: +29 / =2 / -2) (DT1! (23) 1305 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
45. Tomatocage (Trust: +17 / =2 / -1) (202 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
77. KWH (Trust: +7 / =1 / -0) (45 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
97. FullLife (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
306. Saint-loup (Trust: neutral) (463 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
Trust list: backstabbers: users disagree, one user trust the other, while the other distrust him.
Source: LoyceV's Trust list viewer.
Get your own Trust list in BBCode at loyce.club/trust.
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theymos Distrusts:
1. ~CanaryInTheMine (Trust: +31 / =0 / -0) (
3. ~Vod (Trust: +29 / =2 / -2) (DT1! (23) 1305 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
4. ~Tomatocage (Trust: +17 / =2 / -1) (202 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
10. ~KWH (Trust: +7 / =1 / -0) (45 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
13. ~FullLife (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
27. ~Saint-loup (Trust: neutral) (463 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
theymos is Trusted by:
24. CanaryInTheMine (Trust: +31 / =0 / -0) (
39. Vod (Trust: +29 / =2 / -2) (DT1! (23) 1305 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
45. Tomatocage (Trust: +17 / =2 / -1) (202 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
77. KWH (Trust: +7 / =1 / -0) (45 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
97. FullLife (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
306. Saint-loup (Trust: neutral) (463 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
Trust list: backstabbers: users disagree, one user trust the other, while the other distrust him.
Source: LoyceV's Trust list viewer.
Get your own Trust list in BBCode at loyce.club/trust.
(quote heavily cropped)
When evaluating someone's judgement, you should also look at their stance on Flags.
For example:
OgNasty's Personal Trust Flag viewer (to my surprise he's not supporting any Flags)
LFC_Bitcoin's Personal Trust Flag viewer (a very long list
) September 29, 2019, 10:15:31 AM
It's your list and you are free to do as you see fit. Seeing as you put it out here though I don't follow this line of thinking; it just seems retaliatory. It would have made sense to me if you had thought more on OG's feedback and inclusions to decide if you agreed with it or not. If nothing else reaching out to him and inquiring as to why?
In a purely hypothetical as I have no insight into this. If they were just trying out a new list and the next week you were no longer ~ would you then remove the "favor"?
In a purely hypothetical as I have no insight into this. If they were just trying out a new list and the next week you were no longer ~ would you then remove the "favor"?
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