Topic: 140,000 votes on Dropbox website and counting! bitcoin adoption imminent? - page 5. (Read 43063 times)
July 01, 2013, 03:56:27 PM
just a matter of time imho
July 01, 2013, 02:48:19 PM
Bump, most people should be able to vote again.
Looks to me like Dropbox is purposely avoiding adding a Bitcoin option. Any business receiving more than a handful of requests to give them money would jump on the chance for additional revenue unless .....
July 01, 2013, 02:29:15 PM
Bump, most people should be able to vote again.
June 10, 2013, 07:50:15 PM
Accepting bitcoin as payment should be able to stand on its own merits, not because of an obvious campaign ramp
Well, there's "should", and then there's the real world
Campaigns, awareness, and promotions are all a necessary evil.I see you have your Bitcoin address in the sig. Shouldn't donating bitcoins to you be able to stand on its own merits?
I agree. But the target is the dropbox team, not a general promotion for the public. It's just that they might continue to ignore something which is ramped, and they feel has not got grassroots support.
I like the whole initiative, and hope it succeeds.
June 10, 2013, 07:38:33 PM
Accepting bitcoin as payment should be able to stand on its own merits, not because of an obvious campaign ramp
Well, there's "should", and then there's the real world
Campaigns, awareness, and promotions are all a necessary evil.I see you have your Bitcoin address in the sig. Shouldn't donating bitcoins to you be able to stand on its own merits?
June 10, 2013, 05:32:56 PM
Most popular Dropbox requests:
#1: 176884 (watch any folder)
#2: 154061 (sharing permissions)
#3: 119225 (better prices)
#4: 113258 (accept Bitcoin as payment)
This was a great initiative. We're now beyond the one-month mark, and initial voters haven't flocked back to re-vote. We're close.
What if we renamed this thread title:
Voted this month? 5,967 Votes Remain until Bitcoin is #3 Dropbox Request Ever!
Update the count as appropriate, moving to #2, #1. The title at least implies that, with Dropbox, voting is not a one-time thing.
I've been a dropbox user for awhile, and was not aware of the renewed votes per month. I think it's significant enough to this effort, it may be worth being the very first thing stated in this thread. "We can vote again? Shoot, I better do that."
We've got the people to make this the #1 request. Hell, we could theoretically do it this month.
#1: 176884 (watch any folder)
#2: 154061 (sharing permissions)
#3: 119225 (better prices)
#4: 113258 (accept Bitcoin as payment)
This was a great initiative. We're now beyond the one-month mark, and initial voters haven't flocked back to re-vote. We're close.
What if we renamed this thread title:
Voted this month? 5,967 Votes Remain until Bitcoin is #3 Dropbox Request Ever!
Update the count as appropriate, moving to #2, #1. The title at least implies that, with Dropbox, voting is not a one-time thing.
I've been a dropbox user for awhile, and was not aware of the renewed votes per month. I think it's significant enough to this effort, it may be worth being the very first thing stated in this thread. "We can vote again? Shoot, I better do that."
We've got the people to make this the #1 request. Hell, we could theoretically do it this month.
Accepting bitcoin as payment should be able to stand on its own merits, not because of an obvious campaign ramp
June 10, 2013, 05:20:21 PM
Most popular Dropbox requests:
#1: 176884 (watch any folder)
#2: 154061 (sharing permissions)
#3: 119225 (better prices)
#4: 113258 (accept Bitcoin as payment)
This was a great initiative. We're now beyond the one-month mark, and initial voters haven't flocked back to re-vote. We're close.
What if we renamed this thread title:
Voted this month? 5,967 Votes Remain until Bitcoin is #3 Dropbox Request Ever!
Update the count as appropriate, moving to #2, #1. The title at least implies that, with Dropbox, voting is not a one-time thing.
I've been a dropbox user for awhile, and was not aware of the renewed votes per month. I think it's significant enough to this effort, it may be worth being the very first thing stated in this thread. "We can vote again? Shoot, I better do that."
We've got the people to make this the #1 request. Hell, we could theoretically do it this month.
#1: 176884 (watch any folder)
#2: 154061 (sharing permissions)
#3: 119225 (better prices)
#4: 113258 (accept Bitcoin as payment)
This was a great initiative. We're now beyond the one-month mark, and initial voters haven't flocked back to re-vote. We're close.
What if we renamed this thread title:
Voted this month? 5,967 Votes Remain until Bitcoin is #3 Dropbox Request Ever!
Update the count as appropriate, moving to #2, #1. The title at least implies that, with Dropbox, voting is not a one-time thing.
I've been a dropbox user for awhile, and was not aware of the renewed votes per month. I think it's significant enough to this effort, it may be worth being the very first thing stated in this thread. "We can vote again? Shoot, I better do that."
We've got the people to make this the #1 request. Hell, we could theoretically do it this month.
June 10, 2013, 03:35:28 PM
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from: Larry Page
Dear Google users—
... We had not heard of a program called PRISM until yesterday.
Dear Google users—
... We had not heard of a program called PRISM until yesterday.
Hmmm. How is it possible that I have heard of the PRISM software before, but Google has not?
I find this very hard to believe. I might have to change my voting to:
Make dropbox secure from any entity that might twist your little pencil arm until you squeal the names of your trusting users.
June 09, 2013, 11:48:00 PM
I can't believe you people actually use or care about Dropbox. They are signing on with the NSA to assist in eavesdropping. If they take bitcoin directly, then they'll happily pass along your bitcoin sending addresses too. SpiderOak is a better choice as the data is encrypted before it leaves your machine.
Source on Dropbox working with NSA?
Top secret PRISM documents which were leaked by a whistleblower.
Google denies their involvement and knowledge of PRISM. If he's telling the truth, that certainly lowers the credibility of the leak and increases the chances that other companies were not contacted regarding this as well.
Quote from: Larry Page
Dear Google users—
You may be aware of press reports alleging that Internet companies have joined a secret U.S. government program called PRISM to give the National Security Agency direct access to our servers. As Google’s CEO and Chief Legal Officer, we wanted you to have the facts.
First, we have not joined any program that would give the U.S. government—or any other government—direct access to our servers. Indeed, the U.S. government does not have direct access or a “back door” to the information stored in our data centers. We had not heard of a program called PRISM until yesterday.
You may be aware of press reports alleging that Internet companies have joined a secret U.S. government program called PRISM to give the National Security Agency direct access to our servers. As Google’s CEO and Chief Legal Officer, we wanted you to have the facts.
First, we have not joined any program that would give the U.S. government—or any other government—direct access to our servers. Indeed, the U.S. government does not have direct access or a “back door” to the information stored in our data centers. We had not heard of a program called PRISM until yesterday.
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2013/06/what.html
edit: Facebook denies as well.
https://www.facebook.com/zuck/posts/10100828955847631
So, Google hasn't heard of Prism, eh!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.newboundary.prismmobile
Quote
Description
Experience Control™ - Anytime, Anywhere.
Prism Mobile™ is a companion app for Prism Suite® that gives you a way to leverage Prism’s power from your Android™ device. Use Prism Mobile to see what’s happening with critical deployments, no matter where you are. Take timely action to solve problems – or prevent them. Prism Mobile conveys information about your tasks, their assignments and results, plus details about computers and groups – anytime, anywhere. If you have multiple Prism channels, you can access all of them with a single login to the app.
Prism Mobile is powered by Prism Suite, an automated PC configuration management solution that provides complete and automatic control over widely distributed IT networks and mobile workforces. Adding Prism Mobile’s powerful troubleshooting capabilities to your back office installation of Prism Suite will turn your productivity up a notch – whether you’re at your desk or on the move!
Here are some of the ways you can use Prism Mobile:
Manage Your Deployment Tasks
•Edit task properties
•Make a new task assignment to a computer or group
•Manipulate existing task assignments - reinstall (now, later, at next logon or next start up), uninstall or delete an assignment
Monitor Deployment Issues
•See at a glance the number of issues related to deployments
•Learn which issues are new since the last time you checked
•Sort deployment results by task name, by time or by target computer name
•View detailed error results for each deployment that failed
•Identify which computers or tasks have the highest number of recent deployment issues
Take Corrective Action
•Fix typos in a task’s command syntax that cause it to fail
•Change an assignment’s run-as account, or correct the run-as password
•Disable a task or remove its assignment to give yourself more time to troubleshoot
Learn About Your Managed Computers
•Look at detailed properties of computers such as OS version, Prism client version, last poll time, IP and MAC addresses, etc.
•Initiate a “poll now” request for a computer
•Check to see which tasks have been assigned directly to a computer
•Check to see what groups a computer belong to
View Information about Your Computer Groups
•View and search your configuration groups and organizational groups, which include Active Directory groups
•Navigate easily from parent groups to their subgroups
•Identify which computers are members of a group
•View the rule text that defines a configuration group
•Verify that computers are joining critical configuration groups as expected
•See which tasks have already been assigned directly to groups, and make new assignments to groups
•Reinstall, uninstall or delete existing group task assignments
Prism Suite is a registered trademark of New Boundary Technologies, Inc. Prism Mobile and Experience Control are trademarks of New Boundary Technologies, Inc. Android is a trademark of Google Inc.
Experience Control™ - Anytime, Anywhere.
Prism Mobile™ is a companion app for Prism Suite® that gives you a way to leverage Prism’s power from your Android™ device. Use Prism Mobile to see what’s happening with critical deployments, no matter where you are. Take timely action to solve problems – or prevent them. Prism Mobile conveys information about your tasks, their assignments and results, plus details about computers and groups – anytime, anywhere. If you have multiple Prism channels, you can access all of them with a single login to the app.
Prism Mobile is powered by Prism Suite, an automated PC configuration management solution that provides complete and automatic control over widely distributed IT networks and mobile workforces. Adding Prism Mobile’s powerful troubleshooting capabilities to your back office installation of Prism Suite will turn your productivity up a notch – whether you’re at your desk or on the move!
Here are some of the ways you can use Prism Mobile:
Manage Your Deployment Tasks
•Edit task properties
•Make a new task assignment to a computer or group
•Manipulate existing task assignments - reinstall (now, later, at next logon or next start up), uninstall or delete an assignment
Monitor Deployment Issues
•See at a glance the number of issues related to deployments
•Learn which issues are new since the last time you checked
•Sort deployment results by task name, by time or by target computer name
•View detailed error results for each deployment that failed
•Identify which computers or tasks have the highest number of recent deployment issues
Take Corrective Action
•Fix typos in a task’s command syntax that cause it to fail
•Change an assignment’s run-as account, or correct the run-as password
•Disable a task or remove its assignment to give yourself more time to troubleshoot
Learn About Your Managed Computers
•Look at detailed properties of computers such as OS version, Prism client version, last poll time, IP and MAC addresses, etc.
•Initiate a “poll now” request for a computer
•Check to see which tasks have been assigned directly to a computer
•Check to see what groups a computer belong to
View Information about Your Computer Groups
•View and search your configuration groups and organizational groups, which include Active Directory groups
•Navigate easily from parent groups to their subgroups
•Identify which computers are members of a group
•View the rule text that defines a configuration group
•Verify that computers are joining critical configuration groups as expected
•See which tasks have already been assigned directly to groups, and make new assignments to groups
•Reinstall, uninstall or delete existing group task assignments
Prism Suite is a registered trademark of New Boundary Technologies, Inc. Prism Mobile and Experience Control are trademarks of New Boundary Technologies, Inc. Android is a trademark of Google Inc.
June 09, 2013, 06:39:54 PM
+6 voted
June 09, 2013, 01:58:39 PM
+6'ed.
June 09, 2013, 01:06:51 PM
Look folks, regardless of how much Dropbox is cooperating with the NSA at this point, their service is clearly insecure. People have had their (unencrypted) bitcoin wallets emptied after saving them on Dropbox.
Serious? Link?
June 09, 2013, 01:02:24 PM
Recommended reading of the actual leaks:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/us-intelligence-mining-data-from-nine-us-internet-companies-in-broad-secret-program/2013/06/06/3a0c0da8-cebf-11e2-8845-d970ccb04497_story_3.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/no-such-agency-spies-on-the-communications-of-the-world/2013/06/06/5bcd46a6-ceb9-11e2-8845-d970ccb04497_story.html
Congress obliged with the Protect America Act in 2007 and the FISA Amendments Act of 2008, which immunized private companies that cooperated voluntarily with U.S. intelligence collection. PRISM recruited its first partner, Microsoft, and began six years of rapidly growing data collection beneath the surface of a roiling national debate on surveillance and privacy. Late last year, when critics in Congress sought changes in the FISA Amendments Act, the only lawmakers who knew about PRISM were bound by oaths of office to hold their tongues.
Tell me if this isn't in full effect
I have already stated that unless Google and Facebook are giving blatant lies that PRISM is likely not in full effect.http://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/us-intelligence-mining-data-from-nine-us-internet-companies-in-broad-secret-program/2013/06/06/3a0c0da8-cebf-11e2-8845-d970ccb04497_story_3.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/no-such-agency-spies-on-the-communications-of-the-world/2013/06/06/5bcd46a6-ceb9-11e2-8845-d970ccb04497_story.html
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Congress obliged with the Protect America Act in 2007 and the FISA Amendments Act of 2008, which immunized private companies that cooperated voluntarily with U.S. intelligence collection. PRISM recruited its first partner, Microsoft, and began six years of rapidly growing data collection beneath the surface of a roiling national debate on surveillance and privacy. Late last year, when critics in Congress sought changes in the FISA Amendments Act, the only lawmakers who knew about PRISM were bound by oaths of office to hold their tongues.
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Even when the system works just as advertised, with no American singled out for targeting, the NSA routinely collects a great deal of American content. That is described as “incidental,” and it is inherent in contact chaining, one of the basic tools of the trade. To collect on a suspected spy or foreign terrorist means, at minimum, that everyone in the suspect’s inbox or outbox is swept in. Intelligence analysts are typically taught to chain through contacts two “hops” out from their target, which increases “incidental collection” exponentially. The same math explains the aphorism, from the John Guare play, that no one is more than “six degrees of separation” from any other person.
Tell me if this isn't in full effect
Those are articles, not the actual leak.
Here are the leaked slides. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/politics/prism-collection-documents/
June 09, 2013, 12:53:34 PM
Recommended reading of the actual leaks:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/us-intelligence-mining-data-from-nine-us-internet-companies-in-broad-secret-program/2013/06/06/3a0c0da8-cebf-11e2-8845-d970ccb04497_story_3.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/no-such-agency-spies-on-the-communications-of-the-world/2013/06/06/5bcd46a6-ceb9-11e2-8845-d970ccb04497_story.html
Congress obliged with the Protect America Act in 2007 and the FISA Amendments Act of 2008, which immunized private companies that cooperated voluntarily with U.S. intelligence collection. PRISM recruited its first partner, Microsoft, and began six years of rapidly growing data collection beneath the surface of a roiling national debate on surveillance and privacy. Late last year, when critics in Congress sought changes in the FISA Amendments Act, the only lawmakers who knew about PRISM were bound by oaths of office to hold their tongues.
Tell me if this isn't in full effect
http://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/us-intelligence-mining-data-from-nine-us-internet-companies-in-broad-secret-program/2013/06/06/3a0c0da8-cebf-11e2-8845-d970ccb04497_story_3.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/no-such-agency-spies-on-the-communications-of-the-world/2013/06/06/5bcd46a6-ceb9-11e2-8845-d970ccb04497_story.html
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Congress obliged with the Protect America Act in 2007 and the FISA Amendments Act of 2008, which immunized private companies that cooperated voluntarily with U.S. intelligence collection. PRISM recruited its first partner, Microsoft, and began six years of rapidly growing data collection beneath the surface of a roiling national debate on surveillance and privacy. Late last year, when critics in Congress sought changes in the FISA Amendments Act, the only lawmakers who knew about PRISM were bound by oaths of office to hold their tongues.
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Even when the system works just as advertised, with no American singled out for targeting, the NSA routinely collects a great deal of American content. That is described as “incidental,” and it is inherent in contact chaining, one of the basic tools of the trade. To collect on a suspected spy or foreign terrorist means, at minimum, that everyone in the suspect’s inbox or outbox is swept in. Intelligence analysts are typically taught to chain through contacts two “hops” out from their target, which increases “incidental collection” exponentially. The same math explains the aphorism, from the John Guare play, that no one is more than “six degrees of separation” from any other person.
Tell me if this isn't in full effect
June 09, 2013, 12:53:16 PM
Look folks, regardless of how much Dropbox is cooperating with the NSA at this point, their service is clearly insecure. People have had their (unencrypted) bitcoin wallets emptied after saving them on Dropbox. You have to assume that if someone could compromise your security then they will at some point. That's why everything leaving your machine should be encrypted, and you shouldn't use sites that record IP addresses (use Tor or a VPN as necessary).
June 09, 2013, 12:45:44 PM
PRISM has been in effect since 2007. Fiber optic splitting has been in effect after 9/11. ECHELON has been active since the 1990s.
Sorry, meant to say full effect. (edited to clarify) If the leak claims that specific companies are not involved with PRISM then I believe it is reasonable to question the accuracy of the leak and to wonder at exactly what scope PRISM is operating.
June 09, 2013, 12:37:43 PM
PRISM has been in effect since 2007. Fiber optic splitting has been in effect after 9/11. ECHELON has been active since the 1990s.
June 09, 2013, 12:33:01 PM
Actually, companies are allowed to lie for national security purposes.
US officials have pretty much admitted PRISM with Obama saying they have achieved the "balance" between national security and privacy. If PRISM was false, they would go "Nup, that's made up." rather than defending it.
US officials have pretty much admitted PRISM with Obama saying they have achieved the "balance" between national security and privacy. If PRISM was false, they would go "Nup, that's made up." rather than defending it.
PRISM might not actually be in full effect yet though. I'm not saying that they weren't planning on approaching companies like Facebook and Google.
edit : meant to say full effect
June 09, 2013, 12:28:59 PM
Actually, companies are allowed to lie for national security purposes.
US officials have pretty much admitted PRISM with Obama saying they have achieved the "balance" between national security and privacy. If PRISM was false, they would go "Nup, that's made up." rather than defending it.
US officials have pretty much admitted PRISM with Obama saying they have achieved the "balance" between national security and privacy. If PRISM was false, they would go "Nup, that's made up." rather than defending it.
June 09, 2013, 12:26:21 PM
I can't believe you people actually use or care about Dropbox. They are signing on with the NSA to assist in eavesdropping. If they take bitcoin directly, then they'll happily pass along your bitcoin sending addresses too. SpiderOak is a better choice as the data is encrypted before it leaves your machine.
Source on Dropbox working with NSA?
Top secret PRISM documents which were leaked by a whistleblower.
Google denies their involvement and knowledge of PRISM. If he's telling the truth, that certainly lowers the credibility of the leak and increases the chances that other companies were not contacted regarding this as well.
Quote from: Larry Page
Dear Google users—
You may be aware of press reports alleging that Internet companies have joined a secret U.S. government program called PRISM to give the National Security Agency direct access to our servers. As Google’s CEO and Chief Legal Officer, we wanted you to have the facts.
First, we have not joined any program that would give the U.S. government—or any other government—direct access to our servers. Indeed, the U.S. government does not have direct access or a “back door” to the information stored in our data centers. We had not heard of a program called PRISM until yesterday.
You may be aware of press reports alleging that Internet companies have joined a secret U.S. government program called PRISM to give the National Security Agency direct access to our servers. As Google’s CEO and Chief Legal Officer, we wanted you to have the facts.
First, we have not joined any program that would give the U.S. government—or any other government—direct access to our servers. Indeed, the U.S. government does not have direct access or a “back door” to the information stored in our data centers. We had not heard of a program called PRISM until yesterday.
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2013/06/what.html
edit: Facebook denies as well.
https://www.facebook.com/zuck/posts/10100828955847631
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