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What's unfortunate is that a lot of people here don't even take into account that there are a lot of cheaters out there in the gambling world, as well as on the forum. Players trying to take advantage of bets because they already know through cameras who scored the next or even next 2 points. I mainly mean table tennis. If you look at the bets of the players who are complaining, you will see that everything is based on table tennis. That seems extremely unreliable to me and something in me tells me that those are cheaters, or at least a large part. Why should 1xbit pay those people?
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When it comes to complaints, which one do you mean? Because apart from the one that is waiting for response or is already resolved, I do not see others:

hello

any update about my issue?
Hello, we left a reply in pm.

We all already know that eXbit is limited to this reply of 1Xbit, because that's how they made their reputation. We don't want to see replies like this, put pressure on 1xbit to solve all the unresolved issues. After a user posts an issue, the character of 1xbit leaves that issue unresolved throughout the year with a reply to that post. So the BitcoinTalk community is very cautious about 1xbit, so your claim like this will not work.
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It seems like Erdogan is always willing to offer some illogical bullshit explanation to defend his favorite casino, even though he admits that he doesn't really gamble there at all. Just like a true sock puppet.
Agreed. He is obsessed with posting nonsense regularly in order to complete his signature campaign quota every week. I keep scratching my head whenever I try to make sense of whatever bullshit he spews now and then.

I couldn't find a single 1xbit shill who could effectively defend the site through logical arguments supported by proper proof so far which isn't surprising at all.
legendary
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Then tell me clearly what you want to prove. You always want to defend 1xbit with different illogical information and fail again and again. Now that the payment gateway is being discussed here, keep waiting and you will get more proof.

Even if you are given proof, you are ignoring them and trying to hide it by showing various excuses. Find a way to deal with unresolved issues without making excuses, because no matter how hard you try to defend, lies will not win.

If you present evidence or fact, I assure you that I will not argue with it, I will only admit that you are right!

When it comes to complaints, which one do you mean? Because apart from the one that is waiting for response or is already resolved, I do not see others:

hello

any update about my issue?
Hello, we left a reply in pm.
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FatFork provided an excellent display of material in his post.

It is not a hidden fact, 1xbit/1xbet/kawbet are operated by the same scammers. Your explanation about using the same wallets as a result they use the same payment provider is not correct.

So, in your opinion, all these casinos belong to one company?
Of course, it is theoretically possible, although unlikely for me.
In my opinion, everyone who uses the software from https://betb2b.com/ provider have this same payment gate and that is how you see that all this casinos use this same wallet.

It seems like Erdogan is always willing to offer some illogical bullshit explanation to defend his favorite casino, even though he admits that he doesn't really gamble there at all. Just like a true sock puppet.

Erdogan, would you please explain how it is that all verifiable evidence points to this being the same platform, but only unsubstantiated claims by confirmed scammers suggest otherwise? You say it's theoretically possible. The evidence presented here and on the internet points to this possibility. But you believe it to be unlikely. Why? What evidence do you have?


I don't know what proof are you asking for.. and why I should give you any?
For me it would be irresponsible or even silly to have so many casinos using one address, don't you think?
I just said that all these casinos use the same software provider and this is why it can be seen like that.
I just wrote my opinion about it, you can belive in what you want.

It's not about your opinion, it's about what you know and what you can prove. Opinions are the least accurate form of data.

I choose to believe facts and verifiable evidence rather than trust the opinion of a paid shill who has a history of scamming fellow members.


So it's very good that you base your opinion on evidence and facts. But I'm afraid you are wrong if you base your opinion on the screenshots that FatFork pasted here, as they only probably show the software provider's payment gateway address.
https://betb2b.com/ is a huge company that provides software for many casinos from 2007. They all probably have the same payment gate, so either betb2b and all of these casinos belong to the same person, or you are wrong. I'm afraid you can't prove it, and neither can I.

Then tell me clearly what you want to prove. You always want to defend 1xbit with different illogical information and fail again and again. Now that the payment gateway is being discussed here, keep waiting and you will get more proof.

Even if you are given proof, you are ignoring them and trying to hide it by showing various excuses. Find a way to deal with unresolved issues without making excuses, because no matter how hard you try to defend, lies will not win.
legendary
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FatFork provided an excellent display of material in his post.

It is not a hidden fact, 1xbit/1xbet/kawbet are operated by the same scammers. Your explanation about using the same wallets as a result they use the same payment provider is not correct.

So, in your opinion, all these casinos belong to one company?
Of course, it is theoretically possible, although unlikely for me.
In my opinion, everyone who uses the software from https://betb2b.com/ provider have this same payment gate and that is how you see that all this casinos use this same wallet.

It seems like Erdogan is always willing to offer some illogical bullshit explanation to defend his favorite casino, even though he admits that he doesn't really gamble there at all. Just like a true sock puppet.

Erdogan, would you please explain how it is that all verifiable evidence points to this being the same platform, but only unsubstantiated claims by confirmed scammers suggest otherwise? You say it's theoretically possible. The evidence presented here and on the internet points to this possibility. But you believe it to be unlikely. Why? What evidence do you have?


I don't know what proof are you asking for.. and why I should give you any?
For me it would be irresponsible or even silly to have so many casinos using one address, don't you think?
I just said that all these casinos use the same software provider and this is why it can be seen like that.
I just wrote my opinion about it, you can belive in what you want.

It's not about your opinion, it's about what you know and what you can prove. Opinions are the least accurate form of data.

I choose to believe facts and verifiable evidence rather than trust the opinion of a paid shill who has a history of scamming fellow members.


So it's very good that you base your opinion on evidence and facts. But I'm afraid you are wrong if you base your opinion on the screenshots that FatFork pasted here, as they only probably show the software provider's payment gateway address.
https://betb2b.com/ is a huge company that provides software for many casinos from 2007. They all probably have the same payment gate, so either betb2b and all of these casinos belong to the same person, or you are wrong. I'm afraid you can't prove it, and neither can I.
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FatFork provided an excellent display of material in his post.

It is not a hidden fact, 1xbit/1xbet/kawbet are operated by the same scammers. Your explanation about using the same wallets as a result they use the same payment provider is not correct.

So, in your opinion, all these casinos belong to one company?
Of course, it is theoretically possible, although unlikely for me.
In my opinion, everyone who uses the software from https://betb2b.com/ provider have this same payment gate and that is how you see that all this casinos use this same wallet.

It seems like Erdogan is always willing to offer some illogical bullshit explanation to defend his favorite casino, even though he admits that he doesn't really gamble there at all. Just like a true sock puppet.

Erdogan, would you please explain how it is that all verifiable evidence points to this being the same platform, but only unsubstantiated claims by confirmed scammers suggest otherwise? You say it's theoretically possible. The evidence presented here and on the internet points to this possibility. But you believe it to be unlikely. Why? What evidence do you have?


I don't know what proof are you asking for.. and why I should give you any?
For me it would be irresponsible or even silly to have so many casinos using one address, don't you think?
I just said that all these casinos use the same software provider and this is why it can be seen like that.
I just wrote my opinion about it, you can belive in what you want.

It's not about your opinion, it's about what you know and what you can prove. Opinions are the least accurate form of data.

I choose to believe facts and verifiable evidence rather than trust the opinion of a paid shill who has a history of scamming fellow members.
legendary
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FatFork provided an excellent display of material in his post.

It is not a hidden fact, 1xbit/1xbet/kawbet are operated by the same scammers. Your explanation about using the same wallets as a result they use the same payment provider is not correct.

So, in your opinion, all these casinos belong to one company?
Of course, it is theoretically possible, although unlikely for me.
In my opinion, everyone who uses the software from https://betb2b.com/ provider have this same payment gate and that is how you see that all this casinos use this same wallet.

Why is not correct?



FatFork provided an excellent display of material in his post.

It is not a hidden fact, 1xbit/1xbet/kawbet are operated by the same scammers. Your explanation about using the same wallets as a result they use the same payment provider is not correct.

So, in your opinion, all these casinos belong to one company?
Of course, it is theoretically possible, although unlikely for me.
In my opinion, everyone who uses the software from https://betb2b.com/ provider have this same payment gate and that is how you see that all this casinos use this same wallet.

It seems like Erdogan is always willing to offer some illogical bullshit explanation to defend his favorite casino, even though he admits that he doesn't really gamble there at all. Just like a true sock puppet.

Erdogan, would you please explain how it is that all verifiable evidence points to this being the same platform, but only unsubstantiated claims by confirmed scammers suggest otherwise? You say it's theoretically possible. The evidence presented here and on the internet points to this possibility. But you believe it to be unlikely. Why? What evidence do you have?


I don't know what proof are you asking for.. and why I should give you any?
For me it would be irresponsible or even silly to have so many casinos using one address, don't you think?
I just said that all these casinos use the same software provider and this is why it can be seen like that.
I just wrote my opinion about it, you can belive in what you want.
legendary
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I remember reading a detailed post from Erdogan not long ago which was actually very well written. I complimented him on the content of that post and told him he was intelligent and articulate and said that he should consider changing his behaviour in the forum because he has a lot to offer. If he simply stopped promoting the 1xbit scammers he might be a useful member of the community but it seems his greed and desire for pocketing the money is bigger than the stress and suffering of the 1xbit victims.

And as far as you mentioning Erdogan being a sock-puppet is concerned, I agree. I think there are several accounts on the 1xbit signature campaign that are being operated by one puppeteer who is pulling the strings and Erdogan is one of those sock-puppet accounts. If 1xbit forum representatives looked closely they would probably see the obvious patterns but they are simply paying out (or allegedly paying out) money to signature campaign participants in a failed attempt to demonstrate they are a genuine non-scam business but those funds would have been better spent returning stolen and scammed funds back to victims.

It seems like Erdogan is always willing to offer some illogical bullshit explanation to defend his favorite casino, even though he admits that he doesn't really gamble there at all. Just like a true sock puppet.

Erdogan, would you please explain how it is that all verifiable evidence points to this being the same platform, but only unsubstantiated claims by confirmed scammers suggest otherwise? You say it's theoretically possible. The evidence presented here and on the internet points to this possibility. But you believe it to be unlikely. Why? What evidence do you have?
hero member
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FatFork provided an excellent display of material in his post.

It is not a hidden fact, 1xbit/1xbet/kawbet are operated by the same scammers. Your explanation about using the same wallets as a result they use the same payment provider is not correct.

So, in your opinion, all these casinos belong to one company?
Of course, it is theoretically possible, although unlikely for me.
In my opinion, everyone who uses the software from https://betb2b.com/ provider have this same payment gate and that is how you see that all this casinos use this same wallet.

It seems like Erdogan is always willing to offer some illogical bullshit explanation to defend his favorite casino, even though he admits that he doesn't really gamble there at all. Just like a true sock puppet.

Erdogan, would you please explain how it is that all verifiable evidence points to this being the same platform, but only unsubstantiated claims by confirmed scammers suggest otherwise? You say it's theoretically possible. The evidence presented here and on the internet points to this possibility. But you believe it to be unlikely. Why? What evidence do you have?
legendary
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FatFork provided an excellent display of material in his post.

It is not a hidden fact, 1xbit/1xbet/kawbet are operated by the same scammers. Your explanation about using the same wallets as a result they use the same payment provider is not correct.

So, in your opinion, all these casinos belong to one company?
Of course, it is theoretically possible, although unlikely for me.
In my opinion, everyone who uses the software from https://betb2b.com/ provider have this same payment gate and that is how you see that all this casinos use this same wallet.
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do these scammers have any way of knowing that user X of their scam site is not someone high ranking on this forum and that's why they steal this person?

there's so much that I still need to understand from these scammers, for me there's something they hide
I don't think they care about the ranking of gamblers in this forum. Instead, they most probably only focus on the amounts invested and randomly select high investment for scamming reasons in my opinion.


They are actively promoting their site through a signature campaign here on this site. This means that they want gamblers from bitcointalk to actively play at their site. Also since they are running the campaign for many months, does this means they are getting the results from this marketing Huh

There's no way 1xbet/bit scammers will be successful in attracting gamblers from this forum (it would be foolish to use a casino with such a bad reputation). I think they merely want to create the false impression they have active gamblers on their platform.

With these facts, i think they do care for the ranking of gamblers on the forum but they are least interested in solving the issues which the forum users facing at 1xbit.

It's evident that 1xbit casino doesn't care much about their reputation in this community, nor do they really care about solving any customer's complaints. In fact, they are the only company to hire known scammers, cheaters, liars and sock puppet accounts to promote their business. I think that says enough about their intentions here.
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Theory: They are linked to 1xbet which is another shady site. Together, they have plenty of resources which they utilise to scam gamblers in different ways.

What would be the definitive proof that they are indeed linked platforms? By "linked" I mean that they are under the same management on all important issues (I don't mean the marketing part which can be under the control of one department or even one employee within the company).

As far as I'm concerned, there is no doubt about this.

- All deposits on any of the connected platforms go to the same wallets:

Code:
Bitshares wallet username: x1bit
Eos wallet username: x1bitpaygate
Stellar: GD5X7UT6V2LQPQVORA7KRNYAW4LTZWN6R4M3M5UHSGM7YIYGBN67IYP5

The same wallets are used on 1xbet.com, 1xbit.com, 1xstavka.ru, 22Bet.com, bet-1xsport.com, betwinner.com, casino-z.com, lordbetting.com, melbet.com, playwetten.com, pnxbet.com, sapphirebet.com... and God knows how many other domains. All payments on any of these platforms go to the same wallet, and the same company handles all deposits and withdrawals.

Proof:


- Both platforms use identical verification meta tags from third-party services:



So, in your opinion, all these casinos belong to one company?
Of course, it is theoretically possible, although unlikely for me.
In my opinion, everyone who uses the software from https://betb2b.com/ provider have this same payment gate and that is how you see that all this casinos use this same wallet.


- Back in 2016, 1xBit even confirmed that they use 1XBET's customer support:

We are not the same but still use a lot of 1xbet options including customer support.

Something is missing in your quote..

We are not the same but still use a lot of 1xbet options including customer support.
But its separate team and the owners.
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do these scammers have any way of knowing that user X of their scam site is not someone high ranking on this forum and that's why they steal this person?

there's so much that I still need to understand from these scammers, for me there's something they hide
I don't think they care about the ranking of gamblers in this forum. Instead, they most probably only focus on the amounts invested and randomly select high investment for scamming reasons in my opinion.


They are actively promoting their site through a signature campaign here on this site. This means that they want gamblers from bitcointalk to actively play at their site. Also since they are running the campaign for many months, does this means they are getting the results from this marketing Huh
With these facts, i think they do care for the ranking of gamblers on the forum but they are least interested in solving the issues which the forum users facing at 1xbit.
legendary
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Theory: They are linked to 1xbet which is another shady site. Together, they have plenty of resources which they utilise to scam gamblers in different ways.

What would be the definitive proof that they are indeed linked platforms? By "linked" I mean that they are under the same management on all important issues (I don't mean the marketing part which can be under the control of one department or even one employee within the company).

As far as I'm concerned, there is no doubt about this.

- All deposits on any of the connected platforms go to the same wallets:

Code:
Bitshares wallet username: x1bit
Eos wallet username: x1bitpaygate
Stellar: GD5X7UT6V2LQPQVORA7KRNYAW4LTZWN6R4M3M5UHSGM7YIYGBN67IYP5

The same wallets are used on 1xbet.com, 1xbit.com, 1xstavka.ru, 22Bet.com, bet-1xsport.com, betwinner.com, casino-z.com, lordbetting.com, melbet.com, playwetten.com, pnxbet.com, sapphirebet.com... and God knows how many other domains. All payments on any of these platforms go to the same wallet, and the same company handles all deposits and withdrawals.

Proof:


- Both platforms use identical verification meta tags from third-party services:


- Back in 2016, 1xBit even confirmed that they use 1XBET's customer support:

We are not the same but still use a lot of 1xbet options including customer support.

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do these scammers have any way of knowing that user X of their scam site is not someone high ranking on this forum and that's why they steal this person?

there's so much that I still need to understand from these scammers, for me there's something they hide
I don't think they care about the ranking of gamblers in this forum. Instead, they most probably only focus on the amounts invested and randomly select high investment for scamming reasons in my opinion.

Theory: They are linked to 1xbet which is another shady site. Together, they have plenty of resources which they utilise to scam gamblers in different ways.
legendary
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First of all not all of those that are complaining about victims of the 1xbit scammers is presenting evidence to back up their claims. That is something very important to note.

On the whole though, it seems many of the complaints do seem to have some legitimacy but when they arrive over a period of days from multiple sources claiming the same thing (tennis) then either it is a concerted effort to attack 1xbit or it is a pattern that 1xbit are using to scam their customers.

I would never trust the 1xbit website and would highly recommend all people thinking about playing there to never trust them too but for those that already sent funds there and have any winnings in the account balance, you should try to get your money out as soon as possible because it could be you that will get selectively scammed next.


I was playing everything, every sport.
But they said in the email to me that I can withdraw my funds. Then I login again and made withdraw, and after some minutes they blocked again and telling me in the next email I am not able to withdraw and close account. This is so retarded and I not understanding what is this?

It's not normal that every week or month there are so many people complaining and curiously I haven't seen anyone old on the forum complaining about this site, I think there's something wrong here... do they select people from a specific country to block accounts? Will they research the user to find out if it's someone from the forum or not before blocking the person's account? Could it be that they are blocking accounts of people who bet on tennis and win? there has to be some explanation for everything that is happening

I don't trust them either, I've been insisting for many months that they show proof that their security team has that allows them to accuse the customers who complain here of being cheaters, but they never showed this evidence, on the contrary, they keep talking about anonymity and many other excuses for not showing proof, on the other hand we have several people creating new accounts to complain about this scam site and many of them talked about tennis game, which I don't understand. why is there not even a junior member or senior member who has used some other site from here on the forum for years and then has tested this scam site and proves they are scammers?

do these scammers have any way of knowing that user X of their scam site is not someone high ranking on this forum and that's why they steal this person?

Or is it that they do it on purpose to create a bug in tennis and then blame the customers?

there's so much that I still need to understand from these scammers, for me there's something they hide
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Anyone can make this list and claim that these issues are resolved. Do you have the evidence that these issues are actually resolved. Statements or posts of those people who told that  1XBIT.COM resolved their issues.
Right now , only the paid signature members claim that issues are being resolved and what's more interested those members never play at that site.  Cheesy

Actually, I was on the list and my case was resolved - I have received deposit back. I have also found some user on reddit, which was treated the same way as I was, he posted a video with his bets:
https://www.reddit.com/r/1xBit_gambling/comments/p2wdxq/this_is_how_this_bookie_treats_the_customers_who/

Of course the post was removed by the moderator (1xbit worker probably).

I know that multi-accounts could be a reason for some "victims". And it could be a reason for me even if I've never had any account there before. My only guilt could be that I have played with my colleague (which was very good at low-tier esport games) so the system marked me and other players as the same guy. (you know, when pro tipster gives his tip, many people bet the same at the same second). But it's not 100% case because in my group me and maybe two other colleagues were banned while other kept their accounts.

This was game over for me because there's no other betting site which has such wide sports offer, especially esports. Also my colleague has terminated his services because many people was banned sooner or later and there was no point of that.




legendary
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First of all not all of those that are complaining about victims of the 1xbit scammers is presenting evidence to back up their claims. That is something very important to note.

On the whole though, it seems many of the complaints do seem to have some legitimacy but when they arrive over a period of days from multiple sources claiming the same thing (tennis) then either it is a concerted effort to attack 1xbit or it is a pattern that 1xbit are using to scam their customers.

I would never trust the 1xbit website and would highly recommend all people thinking about playing there to never trust them too but for those that already sent funds there and have any winnings in the account balance, you should try to get your money out as soon as possible because it could be you that will get selectively scammed next.


I was playing everything, every sport.
But they said in the email to me that I can withdraw my funds. Then I login again and made withdraw, and after some minutes they blocked again and telling me in the next email I am not able to withdraw and close account. This is so retarded and I not understanding what is this?

It's not normal that every week or month there are so many people complaining and curiously I haven't seen anyone old on the forum complaining about this site, I think there's something wrong here... do they select people from a specific country to block accounts? Will they research the user to find out if it's someone from the forum or not before blocking the person's account? Could it be that they are blocking accounts of people who bet on tennis and win? there has to be some explanation for everything that is happening
sr. member
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I was playing everything, every sport.
But they said in the email to me that I can withdraw my funds. Then I login again and made withdraw, and after some minutes they blocked again and telling me in the next email I am not able to withdraw and close account. This is so retarded and I not understanding what is this?

It's not normal that every week or month there are so many people complaining and curiously I haven't seen anyone old on the forum complaining about this site, I think there's something wrong here... do they select people from a specific country to block accounts? Will they research the user to find out if it's someone from the forum or not before blocking the person's account? Could it be that they are blocking accounts of people who bet on tennis and win? there has to be some explanation for everything that is happening
or maybe the other way around? in which the people in the forum already Knew that how this site work so preventing from playing inside the site is not on their list , meaning this turns them not playing nor depositing in 1xbit (counting me one of those) and this makes old forum members not part of the complaining team in which like what you said increasing counts every year.
but also it seems to be correct that mostly the Tennis bets are one of those in problem here.
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