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legendary
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It seems to the precise website to avoid... just take a look at the scam allegations against them. I would say that I am not at all surprised about the support he is giving to help with the promotion of the 1xbit scammers because receiving the signature fee would trump any level of moral obligation on their part. With that in mind what would he say about the responsibilities of the 1xbit customer support and would he really even care?

Your problem is that you don't understand what customer support is and what its responsibilities are, and what you should report to the security team with.
Then can you tell us the responsibilities of the customer support? I thought they're existing to solve the problem of their users.

Its understandable why you're defending 1xbit, the reason is pretty obvious. But its not a type of casino that you can recommend to gamblers, be honest.
legendary
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Your problem is that you don't understand what customer support is and what its responsibilities are, and what you should report to the security team with.
Then can you tell us the responsibilities of the customer support? I thought they're existing to solve the problem of their users.

Of course, customer support, as the name suggests, is there to help customers, simply not all problems can be solved within the scope of their competences.

Its understandable why you're defending 1xbit, the reason is pretty obvious. But its not a type of casino that you can recommend to gamblers, be honest.

I sympathize with 1xbit because it has been honestly paying me for almost a year and that is natural. I have never persuaded anyone to use 1xbit, everyone has different preferences and should choose casino (after own research) that suits him best.
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Your problem is that you don't understand what customer support is and what its responsibilities are, and what you should report to the security team with.
Then can you tell us the responsibilities of the customer support? I thought they're existing to solve the problem of their users.

Its understandable why you're defending 1xbit, the reason is pretty obvious. But its not a type of casino that you can recommend to gamblers, be honest.
legendary
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If you say 1xbit doesn't have customer support, then you haven't even opened their website. If you did, you would know 1xbit has live chat support.
This is an example of how you accusing someone without even checking basic information.
It's pretty evident that you are spamming nonsense like crazy in this thread recently in order to finish your quota and get paid for this week shill.

You are the only one who keeps incessantly posting in support of 1xbit recently which basically proves my statement above. Just remember that most members of this forum don't take you seriously.

Your post has no meaning or value, so better think about what rubbish you are writing.

If you say 1xbit doesn't have customer support, then you haven't even opened their website. If you did, you would know 1xbit has live chat support.
This is an example of how you accusing someone without even checking basic information.
It's pretty evident that you are spamming nonsense like crazy in this thread recently in order to finish your quota and get paid for this week shill.

You are the only one who keeps incessantly posting in support of 1xbit recently which basically proves my statement above. Just remember that most members of this forum don't take you seriously.

Yeah, his logic fails on the most basic level. If he really believes 1xbit has customer support then it shouldn't be a problem for him to prove it instead of saying same shit as before. If there really is customer support then there would be at least one confirmed case of resolved customer complaint. But there is none. I've already said several times before, 1xbit is full of trolls in guise of "genuine customers". About on site live chat, this thing is a fucking joke. When I asked them about my transaction they told me that they don't have any information about my transactions and  that I should contact their "security team".

So Erdogan, tell me, what does live chat have to do with customer support? If this is all you've got, then you must be much dumber than I thought.


It is you who show your ignorance and a complete lack of understanding of what you are talking about.

1xbit has live support chat and anyone can check it at any time because it's just there, so I don't have to prove anything.

When it comes to complaints appearing on Bitcointalk, they concern accounts blocked by the security team. Support cannot do anything about it except to refer it to the security team for reconsideration.

Your problem is that you don't understand what customer support is and what its responsibilities are, and what you should report to the security team with.
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If you say 1xbit doesn't have customer support, then you haven't even opened their website. If you did, you would know 1xbit has live chat support.
This is an example of how you accusing someone without even checking basic information.
It's pretty evident that you are spamming nonsense like crazy in this thread recently in order to finish your quota and get paid for this week shill.

You are the only one who keeps incessantly posting in support of 1xbit recently which basically proves my statement above. Just remember that most members of this forum don't take you seriously.

Yeah, his logic fails on the most basic level. If he really believes 1xbit has customer support then it shouldn't be a problem for him to prove it instead of saying same shit as before. If there really is customer support then there would be at least one confirmed case of resolved customer complaint. But there is none. I've already said several times before, 1xbit is full of trolls in guise of "genuine customers". About on site live chat, this thing is a fucking joke. When I asked them about my transaction they told me that they don't have any information about my transactions and  that I should contact their "security team".

So Erdogan, tell me, what does live chat have to do with customer support? If this is all you've got, then you must be much dumber than I thought.
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Maybe so they have this bad images on the forum but I have used this bookmaker before with no issues.
And it is true no kyc needed
If they have had not problem with you and also they do not need any type of kyc verification, then why a lot of people creating scam accusation and from their announcement thread we came to know often about the scam activity of them? I am very curious to know, about it.
or maybe because he is one of the luckiest gambler in 1xbit that does not experience any issue.

but he is one of the rarest lol , because there are so many of players in that site that has now become a victim of scamming lol.
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If you say 1xbit doesn't have customer support, then you haven't even opened their website. If you did, you would know 1xbit has live chat support.
This is an example of how you accusing someone without even checking basic information.
It's pretty evident that you are spamming nonsense like crazy in this thread recently in order to finish your quota and get paid for this week shill.

You are the only one who keeps incessantly posting in support of 1xbit recently which basically proves my statement above. Just remember that most members of this forum don't take you seriously.
legendary
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Keeping aside the issue about who can prove what when it comes to them making their cases, what are your views about the negative trust given to the 1xbit representatives in the forum?

Everyone already knows the risks associated with this casino, and it's obvious that there hasn't been any improvement whatsoever. 1xbit casino doesn't seem to care much about their reputation at all and continues to provide poor quality gambling and no customer support.


If you say 1xbit doesn't have customer support, then you haven't even opened their website. If you did, you would know 1xbit has live chat support.
This is an example of how you accusing someone without even checking basic information.
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Keeping aside the issue about who can prove what when it comes to them making their cases, what are your views about the negative trust given to the 1xbit representatives in the forum?

Everyone already knows the risks associated with this casino, and it's obvious that there hasn't been any improvement whatsoever. 1xbit casino doesn't seem to care much about their reputation at all and continues to provide poor quality gambling and no customer support.

It is now very clear that 1xbit does not actually care to solve any of its customers' problems. They are simply trying to exploit their customers and trick them into giving them more money. Sadly, this is nothing new for the site, but new users should be careful as they may lose their money on it just like everyone else.
legendary
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Keeping aside the issue about who can prove what when it comes to them making their cases, what are your views about the negative trust given to the 1xbit representatives in the forum?

Everyone has the right to have their own opinions and change them or ignore everything else and pretend to be blind for changes because that's more convenient.

I am speaking here only about my opinion on 1xbit and in my opinion a lot has changed during last 1,5 year, so from the time when previous support ignored complaints posted on Bitcointalk.

In my opinion, it is better that it is changing for the better, but I have the impression that many prefer it to stay as it was and I don't know why..
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Keeping aside the issue about who can prove what when it comes to them making their cases, what are your views about the negative trust given to the 1xbit representatives in the forum?




After that, what are your opinions on the negative feedback given to you in this forum?

With the sets of feedback in mind, how can anyone take what the 1xbit scammers or what you say seriously? I mentioned earlier you seem to be an intelligent person who could easily end up with a moderate to good reputation if you changed the stance you take here and contributed positively to the forum.

Can you tell us any way we can use that to verify that those users were real and that their problem was solved? Because there are a lot of unresolved reports in that thread, 1xbit is not paying any attention to them, and is promoting these by solving some of these problems. If 1xbit is really trying to solve all the unresolved reports then why there is no progress in that thread?

Then the same can be said for all those who submit complaints. Can you somehow prove that they did not break the rules and that is why their accounts were blocked?

Neither side can prove this, and either side can argue that they are right.

I repeat once again that 1xbit has honestly paid out to participants of the signature campaign for almost a year, so I can only speak for myself. It is you who speaks on behalf of users whose credibility you cannot check.
legendary
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Of course, these are just old complaints - the ones you claim have not been resolved. Current complaints are resolved in a thread specially created for this here: 1xBit.com Coming back to Bitcointalk, Solving all the issues.

So please, stop talking not true.

Can you tell us any way we can use that to verify that those users were real and that their problem was solved? Because there are a lot of unresolved reports in that thread, 1xbit is not paying any attention to them, and is promoting these by solving some of these problems. If 1xbit is really trying to solve all the unresolved reports then why there is no progress in that thread?

Then the same can be said for all those who submit complaints. Can you somehow prove that they did not break the rules and that is why their accounts were blocked?

Neither side can prove this, and either side can argue that they are right.

I repeat once again that 1xbit has honestly paid out to participants of the signature campaign for almost a year, so I can only speak for myself. It is you who speaks on behalf of users whose credibility you cannot check.
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Of course, these are just old complaints - the ones you claim have not been resolved. Current complaints are resolved in a thread specially created for this here: 1xBit.com Coming back to Bitcointalk, Solving all the issues.

So please, stop talking not true.

Can you tell us any way we can use that to verify that those users were real and that their problem was solved? Because there are a lot of unresolved reports in that thread, 1xbit is not paying any attention to them, and is promoting these by solving some of these problems. If 1xbit is really trying to solve all the unresolved reports then why there is no progress in that thread?
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Do not be surprised when you see the number of people claiming to have had their cases solved in the past because most were newbies. Was there ever a case of a reputable forum member claiming to have had his stolen funds returned? I think there was not a single case partly because no reputable member would ever risk having their funds stolen by the 1xbit scammers.



Of course, these are just old complaints - the ones you claim have not been resolved. Current complaints are resolved in a thread specially created for this here: 1xBit.com Coming back to Bitcointalk, Solving all the issues.

So please, stop talking not true.

Anyone can make this list and claim that these issues are resolved. Do you have the evidence that these issues are actually resolved. Statements or posts of those people who told that  1XBIT.COM resolved their issues.
Right now , only the paid signature members claim that issues are being resolved and what's more interested those members never play at that site.  Cheesy
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Of course, these are just old complaints - the ones you claim have not been resolved. Current complaints are resolved in a thread specially created for this here: 1xBit.com Coming back to Bitcointalk, Solving all the issues.

So please, stop talking not true.

Anyone can make this list and claim that these issues are resolved. Do you have the evidence that these issues are actually resolved. Statements or posts of those people who told that  1XBIT.COM resolved their issues.
Right now , only the paid signature members claim that issues are being resolved and what's more interested those members never play at that site.  Cheesy
legendary
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More important than your promotional campaign is to work to increase your reputation and provide the right solution to unresolved reports.
They won't because they stopped caring about our complaints sometime back. They just reply to random posters here and there in order to act like they still care when the truth is that they don't.

Or maybe they just approach each case very seriously and individually, which requires careful checking, and that always takes a lot of time. Moreover, Bitcointalk should not be a place to resolve complaints, and support only forward these cases on to the security team.

They have been checking so much that they have not yet been able to resolve any unresolved reports! You can support their activities but it will not increase their reputation at all because everyone is watching their activities. Bitcointalk is not the place to solve the problem, it is right but Bitcointalk will be able to warn new players more so that they do not deposit their hard earned money on this scam website.

Why do you ignore such obvious information as the list of resolved complaints:

We have combined issues posted by bitcointalk users so you can see the progress and decide everything for yourself.

Fully restored accounts:
1) Tim1996, 1 ETH
2) h4ns, 4,3 BTC
3) Aeshman, 10 mBTC
4) 2kevin2, sum not mentioned
5) MrBrightside1, 7,4 BTC

Refund cases:
1) sezulus, 59 mBTC
2) Fabi86000, 20 ETH
3) jennyoller, 40 mBTC
4) Holen88, 100 mBTC
5) Blogab, 63 mBTC (+hashes)
6) bestneon8, sum not mentioned
7) zekiman, sum not mentioned
8') elninnohameni, 200 mBTC
9) sammichael, sum not mentioned
10) dammlyn, 4,6 LTC
11) aksez, sum not mentioned
12) haluktr, 68 mBTC
13) merceniumeras, sum not mentioned
14) bleedrulez, 20 mBTC
15) zackhirarmador, 154 mBTC
16) kullerimer, sum not mentioned
17) manul-ayn, 133 mBTC
18) polinagil, $460 usd

Total amount of resolved issues in this thread already exceeds: 13 BTC


Of course, these are just old complaints - the ones you claim have not been resolved. Current complaints are resolved in a thread specially created for this here: 1xBit.com Coming back to Bitcointalk, Solving all the issues.

So please, stop talking not true.
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More important than your promotional campaign is to work to increase your reputation and provide the right solution to unresolved reports.
They won't because they stopped caring about our complaints sometime back. They just reply to random posters here and there in order to act like they still care when the truth is that they don't.

Or maybe they just approach each case very seriously and individually, which requires careful checking, and that always takes a lot of time. Moreover, Bitcointalk should not be a place to resolve complaints, and support only forward these cases on to the security team.

They have been checking so much that they have not yet been able to resolve any unresolved reports! You can support their activities but it will not increase their reputation at all because everyone is watching their activities. Bitcointalk is not the place to solve the problem, it is right but Bitcointalk will be able to warn new players more so that they do not deposit their hard earned money on this scam website.
legendary
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Maybe so they have this bad images on the forum but I have used this bookmaker before with no issues.
And it is true no kyc needed
If they have had not problem with you and also they do not need any type of kyc verification, then why a lot of people creating scam accusation and from their announcement thread we came to know often about the scam activity of them? I am very curious to know, about it.

I wrote about it two months ago:

One of my assumptions is that the vast majority of complaints that appear on Bitcointalk are made by few people who operate multi accounts and are continously trying to cheat 1xbit.
This assumption is due to the fact that the modus operandi is very similar:
- complaints refer to almost the same (you noticed it yourself)
- most of it is live betting on tennis or table tennis (I'm sure there are other possibilities as well, it's just the most popular sports for cheating)
- the way of writing the text is very similar (capital letters, grammar, arrangement of texts, preparation of screenshots in advance, very good knowledge about other complaints etc.)
- behavior in response to posts (for example, using very similar primitive insults)
- similar amounts of money (mostly between $500 - $800)
- spam - check history of posts of this accounts
Spam that they make everyday from around 10-15 accounts makes it seem like there are hundreds of complaints, and in fact, it's just the same complaints coming in over and over for months.

I think that some time ago, someone found a way to cheat 1xbit (later maybe sold that method to others). 1xbit has improved security and is now better at catching cheaters.
Note that when cheater is caught, his deposit is returned, so he don't really lose anything. He just sets up a new account and tries to cheat with this same money again, but anyway he can accuse bookmaker.. It makes that with every new account he can make new complaint.
The problem for the cheater is when 1xbit discovers that this is his new account and he already withdraw equivalent of deposit from his other account.
1xbit does not want to show evidence of how detected cheaters, so as not to simplify bypass security for them.
Scammers are angry that they have been caught and they don't even know how, so they attack 1xbit with complaints out of anger. (or maybe because they can not sell anymore their method of cheating)
These are just my assumptions, but after about 7 months of observing this thread, I am firmly convinced that I am close to the truth.

Edit. NOT ALL complaints are made by cheaters! However, in my opinion, most come from them.

Fortunately, everything seems to indicate that 1xbit security team has found a way to eliminate cheaters, because spamming of this thread is almost over.
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Maybe so they have this bad images on the forum but I have used this bookmaker before with no issues.
And it is true no kyc needed
If they have had not problem with you and also they do not need any type of kyc verification, then why a lot of people creating scam accusation and from their announcement thread we came to know often about the scam activity of them? I am very curious to know, about it.
legendary
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More important than your promotional campaign is to work to increase your reputation and provide the right solution to unresolved reports.
They won't because they stopped caring about our complaints sometime back. They just reply to random posters here and there in order to act like they still care when the truth is that they don't.

Or maybe they just approach each case very seriously and individually, which requires careful checking, and that always takes a lot of time. Moreover, Bitcointalk should not be a place to resolve complaints, and support only forward these cases on to the security team.
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