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October 08, 2022, 01:24:47 PM
TMZ has released footage of the Draymond Green / Jordan Poole incident. It definitely looks to me from the video that Draymond Green was the aggressor. Poole was backing away and even pushed Green, which sent Poole backwards before Green rushed him and knocked him down with a punch to the face. I can see why players like Steph and Andre have come out in Poole’s defense. Getting punched in the face for talking shit to your teammate seems a little overboard. I bet Poole’s attitude changes going forward though. Looked like Green got him pretty good.
Did you see the video? Draymond dropped his ass. It was super brutal and the team has decided not to suspend him for it. I wonder if it will have an impact on the negotiation process for Draymond and his max deal?



Yeah I seen that video and wow.  That was with nothing holding him back.  No way they smooth that over, one of these 2 are definitely getting shipped off.  That stuff leaks out onto the court whether they say it does or doesn't.  Draymond dropped him hard lol.  I might actually throw a bet on them on the under for total game wins.
It's pretty insane that no disciplinary action has been taken. We don't know what Poole said to trigger Green, so if there was disciplinary action taken I think both should be punished, but with the aggressive action by Green he needs to have a more severe punishment.

Yeah I'm surprised there hasn't been any action taken either.  In the 80s/90s this happened all the time but in the world we live in where no one wants to be labeled an enabler I'm surprised.  With the video out now, I wouldn't be surprised if they both get something here shortly.
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October 08, 2022, 12:39:20 PM

Currently, Kai Sotto's skills aren't enough to take him to the NBA and that may be the reason why he haven't got drafted recently. He got the height and advantage compared to the other players who are seeking NBA but he need to do more so that he will rise above others. Kai is now groomed up and his teammates even help him achieve his dreams. But Victor is different, teams in the league are already drooling to get him. Let's see who will be the lucky team soon.

Apparently, Kai Sotto is not really rushing he said that he will pursue his dreams even more, and will not get carried away with an easy option of getting into the NBA, but for me apparently, his offense is NBA-ready in terms of his height and movability, but of his defense, I think he has lapses that need to be fixed, his height is one of the advantages that he has, but his defense is still lacking I think he is ready in terms of offense but there is a big no for his defense, it is just one of the lapses I have seen in Kai Sotto,



https://youtube.com/shorts/AC569g6EUUw

It really does not look good for Draymond Green at the moment. It's no secret that he's a hothead. As well as that, he had anger issues in the past. The act of punching a teammate in the middle of a practice session, however, is simply unacceptable. Poole's jaw was literally flashed by the punch. It felt as if he was knocked out almost instantly after being hit. This kind of behavior really needs to be punished seriously in my opinion. People are always going to have differences. However, this does not mean you can punch someone in the face just because you want to.



That was a hard-slamming punch I hope Jordan Poole is OK, but after that Green did not go to practice, with the team, and on Thursday he eventually say sorry to Poole, but it is hard to believe that Draymond Green will do such a thing, but I think this will surely come with a crack on their friendship but I really don't want the Warriors fighting like this, because this could lead in getting some negative vide inside the team,



Upon posting this Preseason games are in commencement,  well not really the output for the team wins so far because this is the preseason,

Memphis Grizzlies VS Miami Heat SCORE 108 - 111
Dallas Mavericks VS Orlando Magic SCORE 105 - 110
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October 08, 2022, 11:49:19 AM
Woah, this is something new and I thought that there won't be any issue like this as it seems they have good chemistry in the team. Well, this isn't a good sign for the Warriors if one of them is acting like he's full of himself.
It's possible that they'll trade him later but with a better value since he's shown good performance during the finals. We'll see how they'll mend this ruckus that Poole has made.
The warriors team players have a little misunderstanding but all will be sorted out. Jordan Poole who thinks he's bigger than some players, no doubt he's good on the court but he needs to be mute interms of dealing with his teammates, not getting into argument with them will ease the smooth flow of the team and a good working communication. These young players wants to gain big position in the warriors team and targeting at their earnings to top up.

It's just a little misunderstanding but unfortunately, they didn't know that there was a rat inside their camp that is why a video has leaked. Now the franchise is pressured because they need to act accordingly because the world is watching especially Adam Silver Grin

Jordan Poole shouldn't be so full of himself just because of what he did last season, he's not the only one who worked hard to win a championship. I believe his mouth was the problem that's why Green lost his temper towards Poole.
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October 08, 2022, 11:22:37 AM
TMZ has released footage of the Draymond Green / Jordan Poole incident. It definitely looks to me from the video that Draymond Green was the aggressor. Poole was backing away and even pushed Green, which sent Poole backwards before Green rushed him and knocked him down with a punch to the face. I can see why players like Steph and Andre have come out in Poole’s defense. Getting punched in the face for talking shit to your teammate seems a little overboard. I bet Poole’s attitude changes going forward though. Looked like Green got him pretty good.
Did you see the video? Draymond dropped his ass. It was super brutal and the team has decided not to suspend him for it. I wonder if it will have an impact on the negotiation process for Draymond and his max deal?



Yeah I seen that video and wow.  That was with nothing holding him back.  No way they smooth that over, one of these 2 are definitely getting shipped off.  That stuff leaks out onto the court whether they say it does or doesn't.  Draymond dropped him hard lol.  I might actually throw a bet on them on the under for total game wins.
It's pretty insane that no disciplinary action has been taken. We don't know what Poole said to trigger Green, so if there was disciplinary action taken I think both should be punished, but with the aggressive action by Green he needs to have a more severe punishment.
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October 08, 2022, 10:59:12 AM
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Aside from that, the Warriors are also reportedly doing a sort of legal action about how the video was leaked.
Hehe it's their right but I'll be disappointed if they're actually trying to keep us in the dark. They should have told everyone to shut up in the first place and let them settle everything privately if that was really their intention.

Most people would still be hating and bashing Poole without that video.
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October 08, 2022, 10:49:39 AM
Yeah I seen that video and wow.  That was with nothing holding him back.  No way they smooth that over, one of these 2 are definitely getting shipped off.  That stuff leaks out onto the court whether they say it does or doesn't.  Draymond dropped him hard lol.  I might actually throw a bet on them on the under for total game wins.

That was ouch. Draymond is clearly caught on cam, fair and square. No such statement from involved players is being released maybe they want to settle it privately and internally without disclosing some information to the public. It's really unacceptable but we need to know every side of the story.

As far as reports are concerned, Green already apologized to Poole and the latter did not suffer a major injury in that incident.

Aside from that, the Warriors are also reportedly doing a sort of legal action about how the video was leaked.
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October 08, 2022, 10:24:21 AM
TMZ has released footage of the Draymond Green / Jordan Poole incident. It definitely looks to me from the video that Draymond Green was the aggressor. Poole was backing away and even pushed Green, which sent Poole backwards before Green rushed him and knocked him down with a punch to the face. I can see why players like Steph and Andre have come out in Poole’s defense. Getting punched in the face for talking shit to your teammate seems a little overboard. I bet Poole’s attitude changes going forward though. Looked like Green got him pretty good.
Did you see the video? Draymond dropped his ass. It was super brutal and the team has decided not to suspend him for it. I wonder if it will have an impact on the negotiation process for Draymond and his max deal?



Yeah I seen that video and wow.  That was with nothing holding him back.  No way they smooth that over, one of these 2 are definitely getting shipped off.  That stuff leaks out onto the court whether they say it does or doesn't.  Draymond dropped him hard lol.  I might actually throw a bet on them on the under for total game wins.
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October 08, 2022, 09:36:40 AM
Bad Draymond.
And I have seen bad rumors about a trade too.
Draymond and Wiseman to Atlanta Hawks for Capela and John Collins but I think those are just mock trades. They can work this out somehow.

That mock trade is just a meme. It's not even a rumor, to begin with.

But if let's say we take that thing seriously, I doubt Atlanta Hawks will give up Capela and Collins. They are a big piece for Atlanta Hawks and blend well with Trae Young and the others. That's an automatic disapprove by the Hawks.

Sorry to say that there's no other team that Draymond Green is fit but only to Warriors. That's the problem with him, he is just effective on the court when both Steph Curry and Klay Thompson are present too.
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October 08, 2022, 09:31:54 AM
TMZ has released footage of the Draymond Green / Jordan Poole incident. It definitely looks to me from the video that Draymond Green was the aggressor. Poole was backing away and even pushed Green, which sent Poole backwards before Green rushed him and knocked him down with a punch to the face. I can see why players like Steph and Andre have come out in Poole’s defense. Getting punched in the face for talking shit to your teammate seems a little overboard. I bet Poole’s attitude changes going forward though. Looked like Green got him pretty good.

Yeah, and it really doesn't look good for Green, specially if he is really the aggressor and it seems he force the hands of some of his teammates and choose side. Do Green really think that he is Jordan and can do anything with everyone not name Curry? And this will definitely test the Warriors moving forward as well, again it reminds us of the Durant and Green incident.


https://youtube.com/shorts/AC569g6EUUw

It really does not look good for Draymond Green at the moment. It's no secret that he's a hothead. As well as that, he had anger issues in the past. The act of punching a teammate in the middle of a practice session, however, is simply unacceptable. Poole's jaw was literally flashed by the punch. It felt as if he was knocked out almost instantly after being hit. This kind of behavior really needs to be punished seriously in my opinion. People are always going to have differences. However, this does not mean you can punch someone in the face just because you want to.

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October 08, 2022, 08:28:02 AM
Not enough to create big impact in the land of all talented basketball stars, and scout see that reason why he didn't make it in recent drafting.

But on the positive side, he showed a big improvement. Yes, currently not enough to create a big impact but if you guys just see how soft he is during his early days in the international league, you should notice the great changes by today. Even Jordan Clarkson got amazed at his skills before, he is not even athletic and can't score in the paint.

I admire the effort of the kid and he really take seriously his goal to enter the NBA even he received lots of criticisms while building up.
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October 08, 2022, 08:12:05 AM
Currently, Kai Sotto's skills aren't enough to take him to the NBA and that may be the reason why he haven't got drafted recently. He got the height and advantage compared to the other players who are seeking NBA but he need to do more so that he will rise above others. Kai is now groomed up and his teammates even help him achieve his dreams. But Victor is different, teams in the league are already drooling to get him. Let's see who will be the lucky team soon.
Height is his asset but that won't be enough.

I've seen rookies that has got the height and not that much thick but performance wise, they can really make plays inside while him, he seems so lousy and needs more training.

IIRC, there were G League invitations for him but he has chosen other priorities than it. I guess if he went through g league, he's got more chance of being in.
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October 08, 2022, 07:48:16 AM
Woah, this is something new and I thought that there won't be any issue like this as it seems they have good chemistry in the team. Well, this isn't a good sign for the Warriors if one of them is acting like he's full of himself.
It's possible that they'll trade him later but with a better value since he's shown good performance during the finals. We'll see how they'll mend this ruckus that Poole has made.

And guess what, there's some rumor surfacing in the internet today that Jordan Poole allegedly said to Draymond Green that it's time to pack his things. I don't know the real reason behind their altercation but Poole should know his place and being boastful won't help his situation as that will only call another misunderstanding in the future.

Draymond Green is now facing disciplinary action and Joe Lacob is also considering a suspension to Green because of his unprofessionalism. This could be a problem to the team because they are showing some weakness and the other teams in the league will surely use that.
We're getting the sides of them, some of the news that I've read said that Poole has changed his attitude and that's why the incident happened.
But on the other side, it's said that Poole did nothing wrong and it's Draymond that's aggressive. I guess everyone will understand that Poole won't do anything bad because he's about to get a very profitable extension so, he's not in a position to compromise it.
Well, all of the news that is coming out are all speculations and we're all guessing what really happened because it's unclear. Although we've got some glimpse of it because there's the video but that's not enough to understand what's the actuality.
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October 08, 2022, 07:08:14 AM
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And I have seen bad rumors about a trade too.
Draymond and Wiseman to Atlanta Hawks for Capela and John Collins
That would be a good move for the Warriors management after the incident. I mean the matter may have been contained for now but I doubt this would be forgotten. It may escalate at a later time so I don't think it's ideal to keep them together.

Draymond may be a valuable asset to the team but he's the most replaceable out of the three core.
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October 08, 2022, 07:03:42 AM
Definitely some trouble brewing in the Warriors training camp.  Draymond Green and Jordan Poole had a fight yesterday because Jordan Poole scored on Draymond in a scrimmage and then called him a "triple single."  Meaning he doesn't get double digits in any stats during a game.  An interview with Klay Thompson after winning a 3 point contest (against Steph and Poole) had him saying the best part of the win was to "humble Jordan Poole."  When Jordan Poole then interrupted the interview with his own microphone, Klay said that Poole was coming for the reporters' jobs too.  I think it's pretty clear the Warriors are getting frustrated with the young guys wanting a piece of the pie.  I wouldn't be surprised if the Warriors signed Poole to an extension just to make him a more valuable trading piece.
What's with Poole lately? I think he's becoming boastful just because he's been reliable on his career last season? I think he should not be full of himself, he's just been used after all when Klay was still on his rehabilitation mode and now that he's fine, that definitely make more sense if a trade is at hand.
Woah, this is something new and I thought that there won't be any issue like this as it seems they have good chemistry in the team. Well, this isn't a good sign for the Warriors if one of them is acting like he's full of himself.
It's possible that they'll trade him later but with a better value since he's shown good performance during the finals. We'll see how they'll mend this ruckus that Poole has made.

And guess what, there's some rumor surfacing in the internet today that Jordan Poole allegedly said to Draymond Green that it's time to pack his things. I don't know the real reason behind their altercation but Poole should know his place and being boastful won't help his situation as that will only call another misunderstanding in the future.

Draymond Green is now facing disciplinary action and Joe Lacob is also considering a suspension to Green because of his unprofessionalism. This could be a problem to the team because they are showing some weakness and the other teams in the league will surely use that.
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October 08, 2022, 06:48:56 AM
That's not the case for the Lakers because they cannot win without one of their star players.

Lebron or Davis' injury will drastically affect their chance of winning, just like the Clippers when Leonard and Paul George was injured, although they were still competitive but they are not the same without their star players.
It's true. But Paul George did something great when Kawhi was out.
About the Lakers, it's not like its a one man team now or two man team which only rely on Lebron and AD.
They have PatBev and Westbrook which I think will be a big impact for the team if their coach would let it.

Ham is different than Vogel. It's not like he have focus for defense only. I have seen Westbrook play this preseason and there is a difference than what he was last year. We cannot tell it just yet.

Just like what you've said, we cannot tell it just yet and that same goes for Pat Bev and Westbrook because this is their first time playing side by side while Westbrook should bounce back from his performance last season, he may have good stats but that is not the Westbrook we know. So that all goes back for AD and Lebron because I don't really think they go far this season if both named superstars are injured.
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October 08, 2022, 06:07:34 AM
^^ Many are looking for this kid and there are reports that scouts are present in the game and they are satisfied seeing Victor Wembanyama, and telling that he is a hybrid of KD and Rudy Gobert? And so they are very happy to watch him so it's going to be a dogfight if he even goes to the NBA.

As for Kai, he is also good but still very raw talent that needs to be developed.

This guy will likely be hired in the NBA soon, as for Kai, he has the height but he is not exceptional yet, I guess he needs more training and of course, needs more improvement to be very competitive. Kai is a versatile big man, however, he must live up to the competition as for now, he is not yet worthy to be in the NBA, maybe if he will gain more minutes in his current team and could tally great stats, that would give him a better chance.

Currently, Kai Sotto's skills aren't enough to take him to the NBA and that may be the reason why he haven't got drafted recently. He got the height and advantage compared to the other players who are seeking NBA but he need to do more so that he will rise above others. Kai is now groomed up and his teammates even help him achieve his dreams. But Victor is different, teams in the league are already drooling to get him. Let's see who will be the lucky team soon.

Kai still needs just a little more improvements. Footwork, toughness and shooting percentage. Big men who does not have any guard skills today does not usually work in the NBA today. If you noticed how dominant Dwight Howard was in late 2000's, but now he's became irrelevant and he even considered retiring as no teams would allow him to play his usual minutes. It was reported that he does not want to play in a smaller position. And, not it's not like it is because of his injury too. He literally bounced back though it's not 100%.
Chet Holmgren and Victor Wembanyama is also one the main reasons why Kai did not make it in the recent draft. I'm confident he'll make it next year, I hope he's not gonna quit on his dreams.
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October 08, 2022, 05:29:25 AM

Currently, Kai Sotto's skills aren't enough to take him to the NBA and that may be the reason why he haven't got drafted recently.

Not enough to create big impact in the land of all talented basketball stars, and scout see that reason why he didn't make it in recent drafting.

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He got the height and advantage compared to the other players who are seeking NBA but he need to do more so that he will rise above others.
Kai is now groomed up and his teammates even help him achieve his dreams.

He might have that advantage but in terms of playing around much quicker and stronger big men around the league, still quite immature.

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But Victor is different, teams in the league are already drooling to get him. Let's see who will be the lucky team soon.

After watching Victor's highlights, the chance of him playing inside NBA is very high, looking forward for him to stay healthy while waiting
for his time to play in NBA.
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October 08, 2022, 03:44:19 AM
^^ Many are looking for this kid and there are reports that scouts are present in the game and they are satisfied seeing Victor Wembanyama, and telling that he is a hybrid of KD and Rudy Gobert? And so they are very happy to watch him so it's going to be a dogfight if he even goes to the NBA.

As for Kai, he is also good but still very raw talent that needs to be developed.

This guy will likely be hired in the NBA soon, as for Kai, he has the height but he is not exceptional yet, I guess he needs more training and of course, needs more improvement to be very competitive. Kai is a versatile big man, however, he must live up to the competition as for now, he is not yet worthy to be in the NBA, maybe if he will gain more minutes in his current team and could tally great stats, that would give him a better chance.

Currently, Kai Sotto's skills aren't enough to take him to the NBA and that may be the reason why he haven't got drafted recently. He got the height and advantage compared to the other players who are seeking NBA but he need to do more so that he will rise above others. Kai is now groomed up and his teammates even help him achieve his dreams. But Victor is different, teams in the league are already drooling to get him. Let's see who will be the lucky team soon.
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October 08, 2022, 01:39:06 AM

No disrespect but to get to the NBA from other countries, you should be insanely strong and have some unique styles of playing, and more importantly, you can easily score 20+ points per game like this guy here. Just look at his insane performance and compare him to Kai who has really a long way to go to be like that. Kai is still young and has some room for improvement he can probably make some positive changes in the upcoming years and is finally signed by one of the teams in the NBA that needed a competitive center.




Don't worry I surely know what the NBA really wanted and Victor Wembanyama is surely a great draft or a great inclusion to the NBA while he is still 18 years, but I just want to support a fellow Filipino on what he truly loves and the main goal here is getting in the NBA and for the 1st pure blooded Filipino to be playing on the NBA, Surely I think aswell that he needs to improve his playing and base on his performance he surely has some space to improve, but we Filipino's are always here encouraging him to never give up,


A good chance because that's is why there are pre-season games, it's a dry run for their plans and that's the perfect opportunity to try whether if it will work or not, both teams will benefit from it and there's no win or lose at this point until the season starts formally. So far we've seen some teams that are doing good and some are not taking the risks of letting their superstars play and just give the experience to the bench players to work their skills.

We can not access any good play in the Preseason games and yes it is for the bench players to show what they can do, and to experience the court, well that injuries can not be anticipated on when they will happen but preseason is good conditioning for a player on their long break as well, not just for the bench players, that is why we can see some all-star players are using this opportunity to warm-up and just scoring a couple of shots, in the preseason and doing things that unlikely they will do in the actual start of the season,

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October 08, 2022, 01:17:34 AM
Wembanyama is so good, I can't imagine him being anything other than a first pick, any team who has the first pick and doesn't get him must be insane. Doesn't matter if you are rebuilding and get 5 first round pick offers, doesn't matter if someone is giving you Durant, doesn't matter if you are given 10 picks, it really doesn't matter.

Just get him, and then you can slowly and gradually build around him, get some more decent free agents at first, trade later on, and then in 5 years you would have a decent team, not amazing, but a decent, because Wembanyama alone could get you close to playoff levels easily if he stays healthy, with a bit more help you would be a contenting team when he is 25 years old. I watched him a lot, he is just too unreal, he is unique as it gets and all depends on him staying healthy.
That's what I heard with Chet as well. I mean some positive things have been said to him but now he is injured and can't play on is first season.

I'm not saying that Victor = Chet but they are almost the same. A 7-foot player who can shoot threes, can play point guard and center. Chet has a problem with his body frame, and I think it will be the same with Victor. He is a talented big and like you said, I don't see him being the 2nd pick or lower. Even Richard Jefferson said that if Lebron and Victor were on the same draft class, Lebron might be in the 2nd. That's how talented he is. It's just his body frame is I think the problem unless he will not play the center position then I guess there is no problem with it.

I'm thinking what position he is comfortable to play with. He can be a center with his height, but he can be a point guard because of his ball handling skills and at the same time, he can be a shooting guard with his insane shooting skills.
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