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October 08, 2022, 12:12:23 AM
TMZ has released footage of the Draymond Green / Jordan Poole incident. It definitely looks to me from the video that Draymond Green was the aggressor. Poole was backing away and even pushed Green, which sent Poole backwards before Green rushed him and knocked him down with a punch to the face. I can see why players like Steph and Andre have come out in Poole’s defense. Getting punched in the face for talking shit to your teammate seems a little overboard. I bet Poole’s attitude changes going forward though. Looked like Green got him pretty good.
Here is the footage.
https://www.tmz.com/2022/10/07/draymond-green-video-punch-jordan-poole-practice-golden-state-warriors/
Bad Draymond.
And I have seen bad rumors about a trade too.
Draymond and Wiseman to Atlanta Hawks for Capela and John Collins but I think those are just mock trades. They can work this out somehow.

No disrespect but to get to the NBA from other countries, you should be insanely strong and have some unique styles of playing, and more importantly, you can easily score 20+ points per game like this guy here. Just look at his insane performance and compare him to Kai who has really a long way to go to be like that. Kai is still young and has some room for improvement he can probably make some positive changes in the upcoming years and is finally signed by one of the teams in the NBA that needed a competitive center.
Nice find there. I was not following the G-League now but this is where the NBA gets most of the players that have potential. Gary Payton II was from there and now he received a good contract with the Trail Blazers after the insane defensive performance helping the Warriors to achieve the crown.
That good as a center will be an easy choice for the scouts.
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October 07, 2022, 06:36:41 PM
No one is talking about Nikola Jovic (not Nikola Jokić lol). He played for 16 mins. during the Miami Heat's pre-season game against the Brooklyn Nets.

Looks like Miami Heat got a good steal on the rookie draft (Round 1; Pick 27).

For me, he is a promising player and if things go smoothly as he progress, will be one of the faces of the Miami Heat in 2-3 seasons.
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October 07, 2022, 06:30:58 PM
Might be thinking that it could affect his negotiation power for the Management. But if the Warriors is not going to suspend him, hmm, not sure, they could be sending wrong signal here, or at least tolerate what Draymond did because of his valuable contribution to the success of the team in the past.

And with this, even Jake Paul is offering money for Draymond to have a exhibition match, lol.

There have already been rumors that the Warriors' management has discussed suspending Green, but he will probably just be fined. Honestly, I guess the Warriors' management will force Green and Poole to publicly befriend each other, so everyone will think the conflict is over. If my guess is correct, we'll soon discuss another video of Green and Poole smiling and shaking each other's hands. However, I highly doubt that the relationship between these two teammates will actually be the same as before.
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October 07, 2022, 06:19:06 PM
Darvin Ham's situation is quite similar to the temporary coach of the Boston Celtics, but the latter is much more difficult because he need to duplicate Ime Udoka's performance or better than that while Darvin Ham's situation is how to get these team full of point guard to work as one while thinking not to overload AD's shoulder so that he could play much longer. There's a chance but coach Ham need to find that key.

I view it the other way around. I see Ham has the more difficult job against Joe Mazzulla. The Celtics is already established and there is not much of changes. He was with them for 3 years thus the players and asst coaches know him. He is already familiar with the plays of Udoka as well. Unless he wants to change and move away from the plays of Udoka, he will have a very comfortable job.

On the other hand, the Laker's seems still to find what direction they are going to. They are amassing PG's as you said but no reliable role players coming from the bench. They will be solely relying on their stars AD and Lebron, and WB (if he can put his game together). Darvin Ham has his work cut out for him.
You certainly got a point that Darvin Ham's situation is much more difficult than Mazzulla's, but I've read somewhere that the latter is not that always active in his past role that's why the Celtics is not that sure that they are in good hands, don't know if it's true but in case it's true, the franchise and its players are in a dilemma.

I guess we will see that after a few games in the regular season. And if it is true, that would put the Celtics in a harder spot this year. And not good timing either, just when their young stars are at their peak, this happens to the organization. The Celtics should find a new coach immediately if they do not feel confident about their interim coach. They are a good contender for the championship this year and they should not let it slip away.

TMZ has released footage of the Draymond Green / Jordan Poole incident. It definitely looks to me from the video that Draymond Green was the aggressor. Poole was backing away and even pushed Green, which sent Poole backwards before Green rushed him and knocked him down with a punch to the face. I can see why players like Steph and Andre have come out in Poole’s defense. Getting punched in the face for talking shit to your teammate seems a little overboard. I bet Poole’s attitude changes going forward though. Looked like Green got him pretty good.

Yeah, and it really doesn't look good for Green, specially if he is really the aggressor and it seems he force the hands of some of his teammates and choose side. Do Green really think that he is Jordan and can do anything with everyone not name Curry? And this will definitely test the Warriors moving forward as well, again it reminds us of the Durant and Green incident.

What I want to know is what causes this aggression from Green. The rumor before was because of who will get the money on their next contract since we know that poole will be free agent by Oct 17 if the warriors do not offer an extension. Green is also at the end of his contract. But Warriors GM and Steph denied this rumor. So if that is not the reason, so what is?

Green should be punished by his actions. It is clear that was a hard punch and he wanted to hurt Poole. That should not be tolerated, even if it happened in the team's practice. I do not like the idea that he can hurt people and get away with it.
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October 07, 2022, 05:09:16 PM
Woah, this is something new and I thought that there won't be any issue like this as it seems they have good chemistry in the team. Well, this isn't a good sign for the Warriors if one of them is acting like he's full of himself.
It's possible that they'll trade him later but with a better value since he's shown good performance during the finals. We'll see how they'll mend this ruckus that Poole has made.
The warriors team players have a little misunderstanding but all will be sorted out. Jordan Poole who thinks he's bigger than some players, no doubt he's good on the court but he needs to be mute interms of dealing with his teammates, not getting into argument with them will ease the smooth flow of the team and a good working communication. These young players wants to gain big position in the warriors team and targeting at their earnings to top up.

The team is punishing Draymond and Draymond came out and acknowledged that he was wrong. I think the big 3 feel like these new guys are eating off their success and not giving them the respect they deserve, which is understandable. Still, with Jordan Poole negotiating an extension, this is a bad time to be making waves. I’m sure there will not be a no trade clause in that extension…
After watching the video, it seems that two are really at fault there. But without hearing whatever is Poole saying while Draymond is away from him, there could be words that have triggered him and that's why Dray went near him. The wrong thing Poole did was pushed Dray away and then he let his guard off. He should expect that aggression when he has pushed him away. The Warriors management probably are on the meetings on how they'll sanction probably both of them or if only one, it will be Draymond.
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October 07, 2022, 04:52:53 PM
Wembanyama is so good, I can't imagine him being anything other than a first pick, any team who has the first pick and doesn't get him must be insane.
Which team will be the first pick then? Yeah, if that team won't be picking him then they probably have missed this big. But you know what, we're always impressed with what we see.
But, we don't know what's going to happen in the future like what happened to Chet and Greg Oden. Although Chet is on recovery but Greg didn't able to get back.
It's okay to expect because that's what we see from them but we don't know what will be up for them and hopefully Wembanyama will be healthy and won't be prone to that.
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October 07, 2022, 04:38:28 PM
TMZ has released footage of the Draymond Green / Jordan Poole incident. It definitely looks to me from the video that Draymond Green was the aggressor. Poole was backing away and even pushed Green, which sent Poole backwards before Green rushed him and knocked him down with a punch to the face. I can see why players like Steph and Andre have come out in Poole’s defense. Getting punched in the face for talking shit to your teammate seems a little overboard. I bet Poole’s attitude changes going forward though. Looked like Green got him pretty good.
Did you see the video? Draymond dropped his ass. It was super brutal and the team has decided not to suspend him for it. I wonder if it will have an impact on the negotiation process for Draymond and his max deal?

Might be thinking that it could affect his negotiation power for the Management. But if the Warriors is not going to suspend him, hmm, not sure, they could be sending wrong signal here, or at least tolerate what Draymond did because of his valuable contribution to the success of the team in the past.

And with this, even Jake Paul is offering money for Draymond to have a exhibition match, lol.
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October 07, 2022, 03:43:21 PM
TMZ has released footage of the Draymond Green / Jordan Poole incident. It definitely looks to me from the video that Draymond Green was the aggressor. Poole was backing away and even pushed Green, which sent Poole backwards before Green rushed him and knocked him down with a punch to the face. I can see why players like Steph and Andre have come out in Poole’s defense. Getting punched in the face for talking shit to your teammate seems a little overboard. I bet Poole’s attitude changes going forward though. Looked like Green got him pretty good.
Did you see the video? Draymond dropped his ass. It was super brutal and the team has decided not to suspend him for it. I wonder if it will have an impact on the negotiation process for Draymond and his max deal?



I guess this will not affect on his contract since for sure GSW management will think about his important role played on their team and also Curry will not be happy if they not give what Green ask to them. So the scenario between him and Poole cannot affect any of it so maybe they will just forget what happen and move on.

There's no need for the GSW management to think because he is really a valuable asset, a leader for them. But you don't need to go that far to punched your own team mate by just saying shit on him. Remember that they trash talk their opponents, so why can't you take that coming from your own team mates. Of course they could move forward, but for sure, some of the guys, specially rookies or new to the team might not feel good being part of the organization as their supposed to be leader will punch them in the future.
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October 07, 2022, 03:15:15 PM
TMZ has released footage of the Draymond Green / Jordan Poole incident. It definitely looks to me from the video that Draymond Green was the aggressor. Poole was backing away and even pushed Green, which sent Poole backwards before Green rushed him and knocked him down with a punch to the face. I can see why players like Steph and Andre have come out in Poole’s defense. Getting punched in the face for talking shit to your teammate seems a little overboard. I bet Poole’s attitude changes going forward though. Looked like Green got him pretty good.
Did you see the video? Draymond dropped his ass. It was super brutal and the team has decided not to suspend him for it. I wonder if it will have an impact on the negotiation process for Draymond and his max deal?



I guess this will not affect on his contract since for sure GSW management will think about his important role played on their team and also Curry will not be happy if they not give what Green ask to them. So the scenario between him and Poole cannot affect any of it so maybe they will just forget what happen and move on.
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October 07, 2022, 02:43:50 PM
TMZ has released footage of the Draymond Green / Jordan Poole incident. It definitely looks to me from the video that Draymond Green was the aggressor. Poole was backing away and even pushed Green, which sent Poole backwards before Green rushed him and knocked him down with a punch to the face. I can see why players like Steph and Andre have come out in Poole’s defense. Getting punched in the face for talking shit to your teammate seems a little overboard. I bet Poole’s attitude changes going forward though. Looked like Green got him pretty good.
Did you see the video? Draymond dropped his ass. It was super brutal and the team has decided not to suspend him for it. I wonder if it will have an impact on the negotiation process for Draymond and his max deal?

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October 07, 2022, 02:25:57 PM
Definitely some trouble brewing in the Warriors training camp.  Draymond Green and Jordan Poole had a fight yesterday because Jordan Poole scored on Draymond in a scrimmage and then called him a "triple single."  Meaning he doesn't get double digits in any stats during a game.  An interview with Klay Thompson after winning a 3 point contest (against Steph and Poole) had him saying the best part of the win was to "humble Jordan Poole."  When Jordan Poole then interrupted the interview with his own microphone, Klay said that Poole was coming for the reporters' jobs too.  I think it's pretty clear the Warriors are getting frustrated with the young guys wanting a piece of the pie.  I wouldn't be surprised if the Warriors signed Poole to an extension just to make him a more valuable trading piece.

He better be careful, Warriors know what makes them the money.  The original 3 are the golden goose for that team both in games in in theor profit margin.  Even if the kid is getting good its almost addition by subtraction sometimes.  Ypu want to make sure those 3 are going into the season with a clear head.

It's just weird though that Jordan Poole will be acting like this in scrimmage and disrespect the veteran Green. We have seen this in the past, when Durant and Green had some arguments in the game and then Green talking to the media.

So yeah, we should keep an eye on Poole, perhaps his performance last year made him feeling 'great' now as part of the big 5 in the Warriors. But we all know that it's Curry, Thompson and Green that is still the core and not same young guy.

Not wierd at all you have to rber in the NBA all of these guys no matter who they are now were "the man" at one point in time whether its high school, college, nba, etc.  Some guys know how to handle it others get an ego over it.  In this case it looks like the latter, and now that he has some nba success looks like it's coming out.  In the NBA that attitude is poisonous and kills a team from the inside out.  Good or not if it continues you will see him on the trade block.
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October 07, 2022, 02:17:23 PM
TMZ has released footage of the Draymond Green / Jordan Poole incident. It definitely looks to me from the video that Draymond Green was the aggressor. Poole was backing away and even pushed Green, which sent Poole backwards before Green rushed him and knocked him down with a punch to the face. I can see why players like Steph and Andre have come out in Poole’s defense. Getting punched in the face for talking shit to your teammate seems a little overboard. I bet Poole’s attitude changes going forward though. Looked like Green got him pretty good.

Yeah, and it really doesn't look good for Green, specially if he is really the aggressor and it seems he force the hands of some of his teammates and choose side. Do Green really think that he is Jordan and can do anything with everyone not name Curry? And this will definitely test the Warriors moving forward as well, again it reminds us of the Durant and Green incident.

I think Green is an important piece on the team, but his emotions do cause problems sometimes.  This is the same sort of outburst that made Kevin Durant leave (minus the violence).  I put a link to the video below if anyone wants to see it for themselves.  Interestingly enough, the police have said they aren't investigating the assault and have no intention of pressing any charges.  Draymond better buy Poole something nice this weekend.  Poole could definitely have him locked up for this, although I'm sure that would bring an end to his NBA career and he'd be losing hundreds of millions of dollars so that seems rather unlikely.

https://www.tmz.com/2022/10/07/draymond-green-video-punch-jordan-poole-practice-golden-state-warriors/
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October 07, 2022, 01:41:32 PM
Wembanyama is so good, I can't imagine him being anything other than a first pick, any team who has the first pick and doesn't get him must be insane. Doesn't matter if you are rebuilding and get 5 first round pick offers, doesn't matter if someone is giving you Durant, doesn't matter if you are given 10 picks, it really doesn't matter.

Just get him, and then you can slowly and gradually build around him, get some more decent free agents at first, trade later on, and then in 5 years you would have a decent team, not amazing, but a decent, because Wembanyama alone could get you close to playoff levels easily if he stays healthy, with a bit more help you would be a contenting team when he is 25 years old. I watched him a lot, he is just too unreal, he is unique as it gets and all depends on him staying healthy.
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October 07, 2022, 01:15:42 PM
^^ Many are looking for this kid and there are reports that scouts are present in the game and they are satisfied seeing Victor Wembanyama, and telling that he is a hybrid of KD and Rudy Gobert? And so they are very happy to watch him so it's going to be a dogfight if he even goes to the NBA.

As for Kai, he is also good but still very raw talent that needs to be developed.

This guy will likely be hired in the NBA soon, as for Kai, he has the height but he is not exceptional yet, I guess he needs more training and of course, needs more improvement to be very competitive. Kai is a versatile big man, however, he must live up to the competition as for now, he is not yet worthy to be in the NBA, maybe if he will gain more minutes in his current team and could tally great stats, that would give him a better chance.

I don't know why is there so much hype of Kai Sotto, definitely a good player, but he lack the "IT" factor to become a NBA players, just saying. He has a lot of supporters though amongst NBA fans so hopefully he can improved a lot and maybe in the next 2 years, will be drafted by the NBA.

For Victor, sky is the limit and as long as he can stay healthy, he could be definitely top 3 draft in he ever decided to enter the biggest basketball league (I understand he is European).
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October 07, 2022, 01:04:06 PM
TMZ has released footage of the Draymond Green / Jordan Poole incident. It definitely looks to me from the video that Draymond Green was the aggressor. Poole was backing away and even pushed Green, which sent Poole backwards before Green rushed him and knocked him down with a punch to the face. I can see why players like Steph and Andre have come out in Poole’s defense. Getting punched in the face for talking shit to your teammate seems a little overboard. I bet Poole’s attitude changes going forward though. Looked like Green got him pretty good.

Yeah, and it really doesn't look good for Green, specially if he is really the aggressor and it seems he force the hands of some of his teammates and choose side. Do Green really think that he is Jordan and can do anything with everyone not name Curry? And this will definitely test the Warriors moving forward as well, again it reminds us of the Durant and Green incident.
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October 07, 2022, 12:47:37 PM
TMZ has released footage of the Draymond Green / Jordan Poole incident. It definitely looks to me from the video that Draymond Green was the aggressor. Poole was backing away and even pushed Green, which sent Poole backwards before Green rushed him and knocked him down with a punch to the face. I can see why players like Steph and Andre have come out in Poole’s defense. Getting punched in the face for talking shit to your teammate seems a little overboard. I bet Poole’s attitude changes going forward though. Looked like Green got him pretty good.
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October 07, 2022, 08:32:53 AM
^^ Many are looking for this kid and there are reports that scouts are present in the game and they are satisfied seeing Victor Wembanyama, and telling that he is a hybrid of KD and Rudy Gobert? And so they are very happy to watch him so it's going to be a dogfight if he even goes to the NBA.

As for Kai, he is also good but still very raw talent that needs to be developed.

This guy will likely be hired in the NBA soon, as for Kai, he has the height but he is not exceptional yet, I guess he needs more training and of course, needs more improvement to be very competitive. Kai is a versatile big man, however, he must live up to the competition as for now, he is not yet worthy to be in the NBA, maybe if he will gain more minutes in his current team and could tally great stats, that would give him a better chance.
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October 07, 2022, 07:37:54 AM
Definitely some trouble brewing in the Warriors training camp.  Draymond Green and Jordan Poole had a fight yesterday because Jordan Poole scored on Draymond in a scrimmage and then called him a "triple single."  Meaning he doesn't get double digits in any stats during a game.  An interview with Klay Thompson after winning a 3 point contest (against Steph and Poole) had him saying the best part of the win was to "humble Jordan Poole."  When Jordan Poole then interrupted the interview with his own microphone, Klay said that Poole was coming for the reporters' jobs too.  I think it's pretty clear the Warriors are getting frustrated with the young guys wanting a piece of the pie.  I wouldn't be surprised if the Warriors signed Poole to an extension just to make him a more valuable trading piece.
What's with Poole lately? I think he's becoming boastful just because he's been reliable on his career last season? I think he should not be full of himself, he's just been used after all when Klay was still on his rehabilitation mode and now that he's fine, that definitely make more sense if a trade is at hand.
Woah, this is something new and I thought that there won't be any issue like this as it seems they have good chemistry in the team. Well, this isn't a good sign for the Warriors if one of them is acting like he's full of himself.
It's possible that they'll trade him later but with a better value since he's shown good performance during the finals. We'll see how they'll mend this ruckus that Poole has made.
I thought they have good chemistry also. What an absurd event that happened between players. What is up with Poole's attitude? I find it incredibly weird. They just had a dream season, Poole also contributed greatly. One of the factors for their success. But come on, what drove him to make a trash talk like 'triple single'. So bizarre. Green is also a great player and everyone knows stats aren't everything. Some players might have great stats in bad teams and it is almost pointless to compare the effect of players. One of the very recent examples; Rudy Fernández in the lastest European Basketball Championship. He is 37 years old and not playing a lot of minutes but he entered in the important minutes of the game fired up the team. He is a very important part of the Spain's title success. So, calling a great player "triple single" is utterly stupid. Even if Michael Jordan did this trash talk, it would have been stupid. Unbelievable.

On another subject, seeing a relatively fit and healthy Zion Williamson made me excited. I don't like him too much but if he can become a reliable player, surely he will make the league better. I actually couldn't believe the deal Pelicans gave him but obviously they had their reason and Zion seems he can be good if he can stay healthy. Let's see how long his knees can stay strong.
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October 07, 2022, 06:46:19 AM

The game is not that interested when the superstars aren't playing because we can't really feel the intensity if the lead players aren't there. But these pre-season games are also good because the other players in the roster can establish their skills to the public and it's a good warm-up for both teams before the season will start, formally.

Also, just like what you've said, pre-season games don't really matter so it's not really embarrassing if Bucks or Grizzlies will get defeated. But speaking of embarrassment this pre-season games, it's hard not to mention the Phoenix Suns because they got defeated and bullied by a non-NBA team named Adelaide 36ers especially when the trio of the Suns was there playing. Can't really imagine what the Point God, CP3 felt after the game.

Yup! I really don't think much about the Preseason game for the NBA and It really doesn't matter for them to lose the game aswell but showing their bench players their ability for the team and putting up teams up that the team also isn't using much and seeing their chemistry as well,

Well that game is also a preseason and I don't really know if the Phoenix Suns intentionally lost to the Adelaide 36ers as I mention the Phoenix Suns also just using the bench players for this game it is like they are really underestimating the Adelaide 36ers, but the fans of the Phoenix Suns is not happy about them losing to a non-NBA team like that they should have put in the effort of just winning,

Right, that game is not that important and pre-season was created to give time for each team to establish their plan and to know if it's good or not to draw it again. Just like the game of Lakers and Kings, the Lakers lost the game but their starters played for just 15 minutes or less and then they let the bench players play right after while the Kings let their starting five play all the way. There's indeed a difference, people should know that it's not that important including the Sun's situation versus the 36ers.
It's true, but for me this is a good chance to see how the player chemistry is, and of course if they are going to win their new team mates. I remember last year with the Lakers line up, highly anticipated and we say that it is not that important, as the impression on them is just like half baked. But look at how the team turns out to be in the regular season, but we can argue that it was due to injuries to their franchise like AD and Lebron that really contributed to their downfall.

A good chance because that's is why there are pre-season games, it's a dry run for their plans and that's the perfect opportunity to try whether if it will work or not, both teams will benefit from it and there's no win or lose at this point until the season starts formally. So far we've seen some teams that are doing good and some are not taking the risks of letting their superstars play and just give the experience to the bench players to work their skills.
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October 07, 2022, 06:36:47 AM
^^ Many are looking for this kid and there are reports that scouts are present in the game and they are satisfied seeing Victor Wembanyama, and telling that he is a hybrid of KD and Rudy Gobert? And so they are very happy to watch him so it's going to be a dogfight if he even goes to the NBA.

As for Kai, he is also good but still very raw talent that needs to be developed.
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