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Quote from: YuginKadoya on October 07, 2022, 03:38:56 AM

It was just wishful thinking on what may happen to Kai Sotto when he can play for the NBA, but as you have said I can not surely compare him with anyone in the NBA he could surely play decent or he could surely play beyond that player it is his own playing style that he is making here and it is surely a great thing for young generations to even combine the playing style of different players on the NBA, and also I can not expect more on him and now that he is still not starting on the NBA,

No disrespect but to get to the NBA from other countries, you should be insanely strong and have some unique styles of playing, and more importantly, you can easily score 20+ points per game like this guy here. Just look at his insane performance and compare him to Kai who has really a long way to go to be like that. Kai is still young and has some room for improvement he can probably make some positive changes in the upcoming years and is finally signed by one of the teams in the NBA that needed a competitive center.

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Darvin Ham's situation is quite similar to the temporary coach of the Boston Celtics, but the latter is much more difficult because he need to duplicate Ime Udoka's performance or better than that while Darvin Ham's situation is how to get these team full of point guard to work as one while thinking not to overload AD's shoulder so that he could play much longer. There's a chance but coach Ham need to find that key.

I view it the other way around. I see Ham has the more difficult job against Joe Mazzulla. The Celtics is already established and there is not much of changes. He was with them for 3 years thus the players and asst coaches know him. He is already familiar with the plays of Udoka as well. Unless he wants to change and move away from the plays of Udoka, he will have a very comfortable job.

On the other hand, the Laker's seems still to find what direction they are going to. They are amassing PG's as you said but no reliable role players coming from the bench. They will be solely relying on their stars AD and Lebron, and WB (if he can put his game together). Darvin Ham has his work cut out for him.

You certainly got a point that Darvin Ham's situation is much more difficult than Mazzulla's, but I've read somewhere that the latter is not that always active in his past role that's why the Celtics is not that sure that they are in good hands, don't know if it's true but in case it's true, the franchise and its players are in a dilemma.

I'm not sure who's job is more difficult though, but the most important thing is that they should do their job on this delicate situation, and see if they are really task to do it or not.

Ham is on the first year, inheriting a franchise that is being plague (and they are not used to it), by losing numbers so he has to turn it around.

While Mazzulla, Celtics is on winning form, in the finals last year, but with the recent controversies, he need to focus his player more on the game and not the noise outside.

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Quote from: jakelyson on October 04, 2022, 08:37:17 AM

Playing like KD will be too much of an ask for the young guy. First, they play a totally different position. Second, you need to have extreme handling skills to be able to reach KD's level. They may be near in height, but KD is a totally different beast. He already improved a lot based on his recent games. He is not sluggish anymore and has better positioning under the ring. Another year of experience and we may see an NBA level of skills on Kai if he does not stop training and improving his game. The body that he needs will naturally follow if he continues to improve and mature.

It was just wishful thinking on what may happen to Kai Sotto when he can play for the NBA, but as you have said I can not surely compare him with anyone in the NBA he could surely play decent or he could surely play beyond that player it is his own playing style that he is making here and it is surely a great thing for young generations to even combine the playing style of different players on the NBA, and also I can not expect more on him and now that he is still not starting on the NBA,

Quote from: carlisle1 on October 04, 2022, 09:51:30 AM

Still far in my opinion, unless he will show big improvement and he will gain more minutes than what he's getting right now.

Kai's mindset will bring him to his dream career. I agree that he's not stopping, and he keeps trying motivating himself to reach
that dream.

Only time can predict how Kai will become in the near future. For now, he needs to keep on pushing and try to learn more with
each experience that he's gaining from every different league that he is playing.

I Agree, he just turned 20 years of age and he surely can bust a few things on his own on what can he do in what to improve, but for him, we that support him is just here for him, and Jordan Clarkson also put up a great advise to him to not give up what he wants in reaching that goal and in reaching that dream, because it is still early for him to give-up he just turned 20 this year, and there is a bright future in him in what he can accomplice right now,

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Quote from: jakelyson on October 06, 2022, 10:47:32 AM

Quote from: Vaculin on October 06, 2022, 04:37:33 AM

Darvin Ham's situation is quite similar to the temporary coach of the Boston Celtics, but the latter is much more difficult because he need to duplicate Ime Udoka's performance or better than that while Darvin Ham's situation is how to get these team full of point guard to work as one while thinking not to overload AD's shoulder so that he could play much longer. There's a chance but coach Ham need to find that key.

I view it the other way around. I see Ham has the more difficult job against Joe Mazzulla. The Celtics is already established and there is not much of changes. He was with them for 3 years thus the players and asst coaches know him. He is already familiar with the plays of Udoka as well. Unless he wants to change and move away from the plays of Udoka, he will have a very comfortable job.

On the other hand, the Laker's seems still to find what direction they are going to. They are amassing PG's as you said but no reliable role players coming from the bench. They will be solely relying on their stars AD and Lebron, and WB (if he can put his game together). Darvin Ham has his work cut out for him.

You certainly got a point that Darvin Ham's situation is much more difficult than Mazzulla's, but I've read somewhere that the latter is not that always active in his past role that's why the Celtics is not that sure that they are in good hands, don't know if it's true but in case it's true, the franchise and its players are in a dilemma.

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Quote from: Oasisman on October 07, 2022, 12:46:33 AM

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Lakers and Nets both got slaughtered tonight. No starters for the Lakers played so that’s to be expected. Durant had himself a good night but no minutes for Kyrie. Ben Simmons looks like a guy who hasn’t played basketball in over a year. I don’t know what it is about the 76ers but whatever they did to Fultz and Simmons should be studied by therapists.

"It's just a pre-season" but it seems like I'm not seeing an improvement with the Lakers this season. Though it's just a pre season, but those numbers they put up seems alarming and AD is so fragile as usual. It's just the start of the pre season and he already have signs lol.
Can't wait for the season to start for both of these teams though.

Well, it's not like the 76ers wanted to waste their two first picks. It was very hard for the 76ers also, although it was their decision to pick the players. What happened to Fultz was a tragedy on both sides. It was a good decision by the 76ers to let go of Fultz. But I'm just happy that Fultz was able to retain himself playing despite his injury and illness and was able to secure a $50 million 3-year contract last year with Magic. That should be more than enough should he decides to retire early.

As for Ben Simmons, it was his own doing. He showed arrogance in the way he handled his critics. He's got too much pride. This season we will find out if those critics are right or if they were too harsh and that Ben Simmons can become a better player too by showing us what he got.

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Quote from: Oasisman on October 07, 2022, 12:46:33 AM

Quote from: OgNasty on October 06, 2022, 11:21:40 PM

Lakers and Nets both got slaughtered tonight. No starters for the Lakers played so that’s to be expected. Durant had himself a good night but no minutes for Kyrie. Ben Simmons looks like a guy who hasn’t played basketball in over a year. I don’t know what it is about the 76ers but whatever they did to Fultz and Simmons should be studied by therapists.

"It's just a pre-season" but it seems like I'm not seeing an improvement with the Lakers this season. Though it's just a pre season, but those numbers they put up seems alarming and AD is so fragile as usual. It's just the start of the pre season and he already have signs lol.
Can't wait for the season to start for both of these teams though.

An off-season will not change how AD's body is.
He has been fragile all throughout his career and will stay that way for the rest of his NBA career. I wonder still until now how the Lakers gave them a huge contract where in fact, he is a very fragile big that doesn't want to play center most of the time.

Pre-season is just for the teams to get warmed up for the upcoming NBA regular season so let's not expect too much from them. I already saw teams who are giving huge minutes to their bench players, so I guess pre-season is also a chance for them to show up and they might be given more minutes depending on how they will play.

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Quote from: Reid on October 06, 2022, 10:36:42 AM

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That's not the case for the Lakers because they cannot win without one of their star players.

Lebron or Davis' injury will drastically affect their chance of winning, just like the Clippers when Leonard and Paul George was injured, although they were still competitive but they are not the same without their star players.

It's true. But Paul George did something great when Kawhi was out.
About the Lakers, it's not like its a one man team now or two man team which only rely on Lebron and AD.
They have PatBev and Westbrook which I think will be a big impact for the team if their coach would let it.

Ham is different than Vogel. It's not like he have focus for defense only. I have seen Westbrook play this preseason and there is a difference than what he was last year. We cannot tell it just yet.

Yes, it's still to early to give comments but that is already good as we are seeing some improvements in their roster, they just need to be healthy all the way so that their chances won't drop especially Anthony Davis as they don't have any big man in the team to replace him and also reliable enough. I'm also hoping that Westbrook will bounce back this season.

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It's true, but for me this is a good chance to see how the player chemistry is, and of course if they are going to win their new team mates. I remember last year with the Lakers line up, highly anticipated and we say that it is not that important, as the impression on them is just like half baked. But look at how the team turns out to be in the regular season, but we can argue that it was due to injuries to their franchise like AD and Lebron that really contributed to their downfall.

They may face the same situation this season. I mean, we don't know when injuries will hit them, especially for Lebron who is getting older. The Lakers should try not to expect too much from him and do what they can to also lead the team.
Austin Reaves for example, he may not be putting much in the score sheet but we can see his presence on the court.
Offensive rebounds, steals, and defense, he is everywhere and will be a pest to every offensive player that he will face.
Davis though will be a big help if healthy for the whole year.

Lebron would not be easily injured if he will not be too offensive, I mean like driving the ball to the basket. His role should be the point guard, with that, he can just find his open teammates that will create the shots for the team. Lebron is not yet injury prone, he might be older already but Davis was way more injury prone than him, so there's nothing to worry, I'm more worried about Davis.

It's not that likely that LeBron will be injured seriously this season, he is too clever to be in that situation. Looking at him, he doesn't do any poster dunks anymore or anything he used to do in his prime because he sure knows that his body is not that agile and robust anymore that's why these days, he often plays safe because being injured will put the team in jeopardy as he's also laying the table for the team.

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Brooklyn Nets starting to look like a fun team to watch again.
The first five are Irving, Durant, Claxton, Simmons, and Harris. I am just glad to see them all back and healthy again. Harris is feeling it who made 2 threes in 15 minutes.
Simmons defensive help can be seen and Irving being a playmaker will be a game changer for them.
The 2nd team looks solid too with Patty Mills, Edwards, Morris, Royce O'Neale, and Sumner. Seth Curry didn't play yet.
A win for the 76ers without Harden and Embiid. Their roleplayers are pretty solid too.

I'm glad that we are finally seeing a healthy and complete Brooklyn Nets in the opening season. I am not a fan of Kyrie and Simmons anymore but I love this season to be more competitive, I want all the teams to possibly compete well so I like what I am seeing with the Nets. Kyrie should understand that the world doesn't revolve around him. The Nets would be a serious contender if they can set all their egos aside and work on their chemistry. I want to see KD's remaining NBA years fruitful even if doesn't mean a title rather than staying in a mediocre team.

There's still a big question though, can they be consistent until the end of this season? We both know that they are capable of destroying any team that is on their way, but we also know that the Nets weakness is also their own players. The big three is a threat to any team in the league if they will work as a team. Nonetheless, it's been good seeing them again playing together as team. I just hope that they will be consistent so that we can see an interesting season this time.

As long as they are healthy, I'm pretty sure they'll be consistent. I hope that they already build good chemistry as that is the most important thing for this team to work. Durant, Irving, and Simmons, these are superstars, so it's just normal that we have a high expectation on this team.

Being healthy is the least thing that the franchise needs to worry, their own big three is already a ticking bomb that could blow off anytime and that's the thing they are worried about. We don't know, there could be a simple quarrel in the team that will lead KD to call a trade or Simmons to be selfish again. All three of them have their own history, I sure do hope that they will play together without problems.

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Quote from: OgNasty on October 06, 2022, 11:21:40 PM

Lakers and Nets both got slaughtered tonight. No starters for the Lakers played so that’s to be expected. Durant had himself a good night but no minutes for Kyrie. Ben Simmons looks like a guy who hasn’t played basketball in over a year. I don’t know what it is about the 76ers but whatever they did to Fultz and Simmons should be studied by therapists.

"It's just a pre-season" but it seems like I'm not seeing an improvement with the Lakers this season. Though it's just a pre season, but those numbers they put up seems alarming and AD is so fragile as usual. It's just the start of the pre season and he already have signs lol.
Can't wait for the season to start for both of these teams though.

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Definitely some trouble brewing in the Warriors training camp. Draymond Green and Jordan Poole had a fight yesterday because Jordan Poole scored on Draymond in a scrimmage and then called him a "triple single." Meaning he doesn't get double digits in any stats during a game. An interview with Klay Thompson after winning a 3 point contest (against Steph and Poole) had him saying the best part of the win was to "humble Jordan Poole." When Jordan Poole then interrupted the interview with his own microphone, Klay said that Poole was coming for the reporters' jobs too. I think it's pretty clear the Warriors are getting frustrated with the young guys wanting a piece of the pie. I wouldn't be surprised if the Warriors signed Poole to an extension just to make him a more valuable trading piece.

He better be careful, Warriors know what makes them the money. The original 3 are the golden goose for that team both in games in in theor profit margin. Even if the kid is getting good its almost addition by subtraction sometimes. Ypu want to make sure those 3 are going into the season with a clear head.

I think they are doing that on purpose to increase the value of Jordan Poole.
These guys had been on ups and downs and those kinds of things might just be scripted to get the attention of the media and then the team owners.
I am trying to understand his contract but there's a red thing in Spotrac for his 2023-24 year. I don't understand what it means.
If we take that out he will be a free agent next season and as brothers, they might be helping him so his next contract in any team will be higher.

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Quote from: Baofeng on October 06, 2022, 03:15:02 PM

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It's just weird though that Jordan Poole will be acting like this in scrimmage and disrespect the veteran Green.

I mean Green had it coming. He had his share of being disrespectful and arrogant in his early years so it's just coming back to him.

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Sounds weird but I kinda like what young guys like Poole are doing in the Warriors. I hope others would follow him and keeps the veterans on edge because it builds a healthy competition within the team if none of them would take it personally. It also gives the coach and the organization some good headache hehe.

Hope that it will reflect on their much solid respect for each other, unlike what happened with KD before.

Poole is still young and 5 years from now he might be the new Steph of this team, he needs to focus on his career in a positive
ways, personally I don't have any idea about what happened just from my social media account where I learn this concern nothing
that I can say against or between these two stars, looking for them to continue playing alongside and not to bring any problem
internally.

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Lakers and Nets both got slaughtered tonight. No starters for the Lakers played so that’s to be expected. Durant had himself a good night but no minutes for Kyrie. Ben Simmons looks like a guy who hasn’t played basketball in over a year. I don’t know what it is about the 76ers but whatever they did to Fultz and Simmons should be studied by therapists.

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Woah, this is something new and I thought that there won't be any issue like this as it seems they have good chemistry in the team. Well, this isn't a good sign for the Warriors if one of them is acting like he's full of himself.
It's possible that they'll trade him later but with a better value since he's shown good performance during the finals. We'll see how they'll mend this ruckus that Poole has made.

The warriors team players have a little misunderstanding but all will be sorted out. Jordan Poole who thinks he's bigger than some players, no doubt he's good on the court but he needs to be mute interms of dealing with his teammates, not getting into argument with them will ease the smooth flow of the team and a good working communication. These young players wants to gain big position in the warriors team and targeting at their earnings to top up.

The team is punishing Draymond and Draymond came out and acknowledged that he was wrong. I think the big 3 feel like these new guys are eating off their success and not giving them the respect they deserve, which is understandable. Still, with Jordan Poole negotiating an extension, this is a bad time to be making waves. I’m sure there will not be a no trade clause in that extension…

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Quote from: passwordnow on October 06, 2022, 06:09:08 PM

Woah, this is something new and I thought that there won't be any issue like this as it seems they have good chemistry in the team. Well, this isn't a good sign for the Warriors if one of them is acting like he's full of himself.
It's possible that they'll trade him later but with a better value since he's shown good performance during the finals. We'll see how they'll mend this ruckus that Poole has made.

The warriors team players have a little misunderstanding but all will be sorted out. Jordan Poole who thinks he's bigger than some players, no doubt he's good on the court but he needs to be mute interms of dealing with his teammates, not getting into argument with them will ease the smooth flow of the team and a good working communication. These young players wants to gain big position in the warriors team and targeting at their earnings to top up.

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Quote from: OgNasty on October 06, 2022, 12:57:02 PM

Definitely some trouble brewing in the Warriors training camp. Draymond Green and Jordan Poole had a fight yesterday because Jordan Poole scored on Draymond in a scrimmage and then called him a "triple single." Meaning he doesn't get double digits in any stats during a game. An interview with Klay Thompson after winning a 3 point contest (against Steph and Poole) had him saying the best part of the win was to "humble Jordan Poole." When Jordan Poole then interrupted the interview with his own microphone, Klay said that Poole was coming for the reporters' jobs too. I think it's pretty clear the Warriors are getting frustrated with the young guys wanting a piece of the pie. I wouldn't be surprised if the Warriors signed Poole to an extension just to make him a more valuable trading piece.

Jordan Poole is not playing for the team but for just himself.

Draymond Green won't do that irresponsible act if he's not seeing Poole in such selfish behavior for a long time. Green's loyalty to the Warriors is on the highest level.

Those young players like Jordan Poole act like they are tough just because they are part of the championship.

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Quote from: rhomelmabini on October 06, 2022, 03:26:51 PM

Quote from: OgNasty on October 06, 2022, 12:57:02 PM

Definitely some trouble brewing in the Warriors training camp. Draymond Green and Jordan Poole had a fight yesterday because Jordan Poole scored on Draymond in a scrimmage and then called him a "triple single." Meaning he doesn't get double digits in any stats during a game. An interview with Klay Thompson after winning a 3 point contest (against Steph and Poole) had him saying the best part of the win was to "humble Jordan Poole." When Jordan Poole then interrupted the interview with his own microphone, Klay said that Poole was coming for the reporters' jobs too. I think it's pretty clear the Warriors are getting frustrated with the young guys wanting a piece of the pie. I wouldn't be surprised if the Warriors signed Poole to an extension just to make him a more valuable trading piece.

What's with Poole lately? I think he's becoming boastful just because he's been reliable on his career last season? I think he should not be full of himself, he's just been used after all when Klay was still on his rehabilitation mode and now that he's fine, that definitely make more sense if a trade is at hand.

Woah, this is something new and I thought that there won't be any issue like this as it seems they have good chemistry in the team. Well, this isn't a good sign for the Warriors if one of them is acting like he's full of himself.
It's possible that they'll trade him later but with a better value since he's shown good performance during the finals. We'll see how they'll mend this ruckus that Poole has made.

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Quote from: Baofeng on October 06, 2022, 03:15:02 PM

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It's just weird though that Jordan Poole will be acting like this in scrimmage and disrespect the veteran Green.

I mean Green had it coming. He had his share of being disrespectful and arrogant in his early years so it's just coming back to him.

.....

Sounds weird but I kinda like what young guys like Poole are doing in the Warriors. I hope others would follow him and keeps the veterans on edge because it builds a healthy competition within the team if none of them would take it personally. It also gives the coach and the organization some good headache hehe.

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Quote from: OgNasty on October 06, 2022, 12:57:02 PM

Definitely some trouble brewing in the Warriors training camp. Draymond Green and Jordan Poole had a fight yesterday because Jordan Poole scored on Draymond in a scrimmage and then called him a "triple single." Meaning he doesn't get double digits in any stats during a game. An interview with Klay Thompson after winning a 3 point contest (against Steph and Poole) had him saying the best part of the win was to "humble Jordan Poole." When Jordan Poole then interrupted the interview with his own microphone, Klay said that Poole was coming for the reporters' jobs too. I think it's pretty clear the Warriors are getting frustrated with the young guys wanting a piece of the pie. I wouldn't be surprised if the Warriors signed Poole to an extension just to make him a more valuable trading piece.

What's with Poole lately? I think he's becoming boastful just because he's been reliable on his career last season? I think he should not be full of himself, he's just been used after all when Klay was still on his rehabilitation mode and now that he's fine, that definitely make more sense if a trade is at hand.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on October 06, 2022, 02:14:11 PM

To be honest, Embiid didn't played much in his first three seasons neither, and was considered bust by many people because of his injuries, compared him to Oden a lot, but then he recovered and didn't get injured all that much and he became an MVP candidate level of player.

I wasn't aware that he was compared to Greg Oden of the Trailblazers. But in any case, Joel has already proven himself to be MVP caliber, but somehow Jokic beat him last season. If he could just stay healthy throughout and not missed important games, maybe he could be the MVP.

Quote from: el kaka22 on October 06, 2022, 02:14:11 PM

This is why I believe that Zion still has a chance to recover from this and become a good worthy player, he hasn't missed all that much yet, sure he had a bad start at his career, but he could still play another 15+ seasons and if he odes that with minimal injury, then he will be considered a great player by the time he retires. Al depends on how the future looks, can't say anything for now.

Zion is still very young and can bounce back and show how he is worth and not a bust like any highly touted college players. Again, injury will hit anyone, but they can comeback for sure.

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