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Quote from: Oasisman on August 11, 2022, 06:29:57 PM

He will not going to have a difficult time signing to any team though when he's 35, I simply don't believe that.
However, chasing for a ring might be a little too difficult as the league has an influx of young talented players.

While there's no problem or any difficulty to be signed by other teams since that's "Dame", time is running for him and if he really wants to chase championships, he needs to consider doing it now rather than after 3 to 5 years or so. Just like you said, most teams now are composed of talented players.

It would be great that while he's still at his best, he can actually still match and compete with those players. Pairing him with another superstar would be great or Blazers instead should do that so that Dame doesn't need to chase a championship on much contender teams.

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I can see Dame riding with them for a coue years but once he hits 34-35 he will probably want to jump ship to a contender if Portland hasn't done anything to increase their chances of competing for a chip. One dude I wish the Knicks made a run at. He is a complete difference maker. Would be a legend if he was on a better team.

Kind of too late for me if Damian Lillard will just consider going to other teams 2-3 years from now. Even how good the player is during their prime, once they hit 34-35 years old, they might have difficulty being signed at a much contender team that has the chance to take the chip on that season.

Not really. When you're as talented as Dame in basketball, your skills won't just disappear magically in the age of 34-35. Dame is 32 currently, in the next 3 years we won't barely notice any changes to his style of play, vertical, or agility. Unless if god forbid he'll fall into a serious injury. 3 years does not make any differences anyway.
He will not going to have a difficult time signing to any team though when he's 35, I simply don't believe that.
However, chasing for a ring might be a little too difficult as the league has an influx of young talented players.

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Quote from: carlisle1 on August 11, 2022, 10:41:37 AM

I also have that same opinion about Celtics, they don't need KD, the only thing that they needed to do is to continue doing more progress with their system, they've made it to the finals last season the players deserves kudos for doing their roles and now they will again try to push for another shot in chasing the world title, having KD and breaking the good chemistry might not be a good idea for the Celtics' managements.

However, Boston Celtics show interest in Kevin Durant and even consider putting Jaylen Brown on the trade package.

It means the Celtics are willing to break their core just to get Durant even though Jaylen Brown was a big piece during their last Finals run. But since the Brooklyn Nets want more big fish aside from Jaylen Brown, that ends the story now, or...

I'm now even more concerned about Jaylen Brown. Even though NBA is business and players must accept that they might be shipped away even how valuable they are on the team, it gives Brown a disappointment that the team who thinks he values him is willing to just trade him away easily without even considering. I hope that won't affect his performance on the team which I doubt it really will.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on August 11, 2022, 09:47:45 AM

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I think the Nets management will stick with their coach.

Same here. I think fans will respect the organization's board more even after the failed experiment if they do not submit to KD's demand of removing Nash. He may have been rushed into a coaching role but no player shoould have so much power to remove him.

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Honestly, I'm leaning towards the Celtics don't need Durant at all because they already have good team chemistry, and signing Durant can only make it worse.

He isn't a ball hog to be fair to KD. He seems fine playing with any system.

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on August 11, 2022, 02:00:36 PM

I can see Dame riding with them for a coue years but once he hits 34-35 he will probably want to jump ship to a contender if Portland hasn't done anything to increase their chances of competing for a chip. One dude I wish the Knicks made a run at. He is a complete difference maker. Would be a legend if he was on a better team.

Kind of too late for me if Damian Lillard will just consider going to other teams 2-3 years from now. Even how good the player is during their prime, once they hit 34-35 years old, they might have difficulty being signed at a much contender team that has the chance to take the chip on that season.

The time now for him to break his loyalty to the team now that he is still on his best performance and can bring a good contribution to where he will land.

But thinking positively about his future, I remember Karl Malone is around 40 years old when he joined the Los Angeles Lakers for a possible title chase.

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Quote from: püsür on August 11, 2022, 02:23:49 PM

Of course Celtics shouldn't be interested in that offer as you are right about if in case Durant decides to go again soon, Celtics will have almost nothing and they would destroy an already successful team which just got to the NBA Finals.

I also see now a news report that for an offer for Durant, Nets asked Jaylen Brown, Marcus Smart and bunch of draft rights. I think this is getting ridiculous. I know how Durant is an important player but come on. Celtics were in the NBA Finals. I don't even understand why Celtics even bothered by these trade talks.

It is not surprising that the Nets are asking so much for Durant because they don't want to end up with nothing. At the same time, it would be expected if the Celtics' management doesn't accept any of the Nets' offers. Honestly, I'm leaning towards the Celtics don't need Durant at all because they already have good team chemistry, and signing Durant can only make it worse.

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Quote from: Captain Corporate on August 11, 2022, 02:31:47 PM

Its not just about him leaving though, I mean even if he stayed there until he retired, even if he scored 30 ppg for another 5 seasons, thats not a valuable trade. If I were Celtics, even with a guarantee of him staying, I wouldn't give Tatum and Brown together. I am not sure if there is a single player in all of NBA that I would trade those two together. Maybe in a few years and they start to play bad, but so far they are good enough to take them to finals, that should be clear enough that they are young and still better than most superstars together. Wouldn't give even a single one of them. Nets could ask anyone but those two, ask ANY player aside those two and all picks and you should have it, but those two are untouchable in my mind.

This is all a moot point lol. Celtics wouldn't give them taytum for Durant straight up. That's not to say that I think taytum is better. It's just that he is young and will be on the team for the next 10 plus years in his prime. Durant is already on his peak. It's all just jockeying, Nets know they ain't getting taytum.

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Dame is not the type of player that could earn MVP votes that easily. He is expected to score a lot, and he is expected to even assist even though he doesn't have too many proper teammates now. He needs to have like 30+ ppg and 10 assists per game type of season and even with that there will be players who are close to him.

Plus, they do not give MVP votes to players who play in a team that may miss the playoffs, that's rarely possible, even Westbrook who got it was averaging triple double and was in playoffs. So, not only he has to have great stats, but his team needs to do great as well. This is why I do not see him as MVP candidate at all, probably not even top 5.

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Speaking of the Celtics… After the passing of Celtics legend Bill Russell the NBA has said that no player for any team will ever be given the number 6 ever again. That makes Bill Russell the first NBA player to have his number retired league wide. A pretty huge deal as there are only so many numbers. I’m sure the entire season will be filled with tributes to Bill who was a championship machine when he played.

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Its not just about him leaving though, I mean even if he stayed there until he retired, even if he scored 30 ppg for another 5 seasons, thats not a valuable trade. If I were Celtics, even with a guarantee of him staying, I wouldn't give Tatum and Brown together. I am not sure if there is a single player in all of NBA that I would trade those two together. Maybe in a few years and they start to play bad, but so far they are good enough to take them to finals, that should be clear enough that they are young and still better than most superstars together. Wouldn't give even a single one of them. Nets could ask anyone but those two, ask ANY player aside those two and all picks and you should have it, but those two are untouchable in my mind.

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"Brooklyn Nets reportedly asked for Jaylen Brown AND Jayson Tatum for Kevin Durant. " Most celtics fans already hated the previous report of Jaylen Brown + picks for Kevin Durant and with these recent reports. I'd say if it goes through, there'll be riots across Boston. Seems very unlikely that this goes through.

I wonder if the Celtics will be interested about that because Jaylen Brown is a vital asset in the team's success last season even if they didn't get the title but they managed to get as far as the Finals even though they don't have any experience at all, what makes them unique is the trust and chemistry they have. In that case, the Celtics shouldn't bother with that because the team will be just left alone again if in case Durant won't be satisfied.

Of course Celtics shouldn't be interested in that offer as you are right about if in case Durant decides to go again soon, Celtics will have almost nothing and they would destroy an already successful team which just got to the NBA Finals.

I also see now a news report that for an offer for Durant, Nets asked Jaylen Brown, Marcus Smart and bunch of draft rights. I think this is getting ridiculous. I know how Durant is an important player but come on. Celtics were in the NBA Finals. I don't even understand why Celtics even bothered by these trade talks.

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on August 11, 2022, 02:00:36 PM

I can see Dame riding with them for a coue years but once he hits 34-35 he will probably want to jump ship to a contender if Portland hasn't done anything to increase their chances of competing for a chip. One dude I wish the Knicks made a run at. He is a complete difference maker. Would be a legend if he was on a better team.

I feel like if he is going to do that, he should be doing it now that he is still in his prime. Now is the best time for him to chase a ring since he can still maximize his contribution to the team. If he waits until 34-35 before doing it, he will be declining by that time. He can still contribute but can not as much right now. He also maybe injury prone by that time.

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Agreed if they are healthy the whole year this team can do damage. Big fan of Dame's game and root for the guy anytime they aren't playing the Knicks. They never seem to have a healthy roster for the last 5 years. Shame, Dame would be challenging for titles if they were.

Despite Blazers always failed to make a successful playoffs run, I admire Dame for being loyal. He even pointing things to the Portland Trail Blazers management to do something to surround him with a good teammates instead of "damn, trade me now. i'm sick of this".

But for how long his patience will be test? It's not forever that Lillard will still on his best prime performance. He is now 32 years old, entering the post-prime period and looks like he really determined to end his legacy in the Blazers.

Since then, Blazers is not participating or involving in getting a big name in post-season and free agency. If they keep on doing that, Dame might end up as one of the good players in the league who didn't experience a championship.

I can see Dame riding with them for a coue years but once he hits 34-35 he will probably want to jump ship to a contender if Portland hasn't done anything to increase their chances of competing for a chip. One dude I wish the Knicks made a run at. He is a complete difference maker. Would be a legend if he was on a better team.

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I've read an update from the Lakers in social media that they might probably going to re-run the Lakers roster with AD, Westbrook, and James and this time they'll run the offense primarily with AD and Westbrook so they can execute a better offensive plays.
Did some of you guys heard the same news?
IMO, they also need to improve their defense, because that's a more reliable weapon than just improvising the offensive end without bringing the defensive plan on the table.

It's more of AD, I will agree to that and if I'm not mistaken during their championship run, it was really AD as their first choice in offense, even last season. The problem is that AD gets injured more often and just play minimal minutes and not 100% healthy. If he will be injury free next season then good as he will get a lot of touches in the paint, probably posting some big men. And then throw it out to their shooters for open shot, even WB can be a good option in the 3's. Or the receiver can do a quick penetration for easy two or dunks.

Seems like it, they will start to play like they were in 2020 when they got the title but this time with a slight change in their roster because back at that time, they don't have Westbrook and they got more extra players that could be reliable when one of their main line-ups is resting.

I believe Darvin Ham has a plan and part of that is utilizing Westbrook's capabilities while AD will do most of the offense, this might work. Let's find out soon, they just have to be healthy throughout the season though.

He is a new coach, it's a big pressure on his part because people are thinking that the big 3 are really good but the main problem is only the coaching staff. If the organization fired the coach who brought them a championship, I'm expecting that Darvin Ham will fired as well if the Lakers will fail again in the season to come.

Well, I think that it is the reality behind that because the Lakers didn't manage to find other coach, instead they hired the assistant coach to be the new head coach of the team. I'm not saying that Darvin Ham has nothing to offer to the current roster but I think they are just struggling to find the coach they needed. We will see soon why they choose Darvin and why did the new coach insist to retain Westbrook in the roster, as they say, new coach new style.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on August 11, 2022, 05:08:11 AM

He will only become an MVP if his team will also be competitive, well, Blazers is still a good team IMO, with Lillard's leadership, they still have a shot in the playoffs but not sure they will stay longer, most probably they will be eliminated in the first round. However, all this still defends on Lillard's health because if Lillard's get injured, his team will definitely suffer.

They've been an amazing team ever since Dame take over and they were very competitive in the playoffs back then. Right now if he decides to stay, he really needs some players who can help him make their team strong again. They used to win easily in the season but when it comes to NBA playoffs, it seems like their luck is scarce and they cannot reach the finals ever since. Well! it's just a long road if Dame really wanted to win a ring in that uniform and after all, he is listed in the best 75 NBA players of all time, he might find a way in his last remaining years in the NBA.

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Quote from: Questat on August 11, 2022, 04:33:41 AM

Maybe we can think of considering him winning an MVP sin he is the only sole superstar of the team, he will get more minutes and more production but what I wished more is that the Blazers will reach the playoffs although not expected.

Can happen. Health was only the issue before.
About the unexpected, ain't GSW also an unexpected team to win the championship? The only thing we are waiting for is the performance they will show when the season starts.
Chicago Bulls last season was also a trend but health issues hit them a lot and that took away the chance.

Quote from: Smack That Ace on August 11, 2022, 09:32:24 AM

As for Dame, I am sorry to say but I think he certainly deserves better. And he certainly can play better. I've seen someone posted online "Dame is getting rotted away in the Blazers,". I'm sorry to say that it is actually partly true.

Blazers is a competent team, with the leadership of Damian Lillard they might actually go farther than people are expecting. It's unlikely they will be able to continue their good work even if they start well. I also agree that even if they make it to the playoffs, they are not expecting to stay longer.

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Quote from: goinmerry on August 10, 2022, 03:54:03 PM

Despite Blazers always failed to make a successful playoffs run, I admire Dame for being loyal. He even pointing things to the Portland Trail Blazers management to do something to surround him with a good teammates instead of "damn, trade me now. i'm sick of this".

They lack competitiveness as after he was injured it was all McCollum who is carrying the team. I don't even know why they traded him because he is one of the pieces that could take the Blazers back on the map.

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"Brooklyn Nets reportedly asked for Jaylen Brown AND Jayson Tatum for Kevin Durant. " Most celtics fans already hated the previous report of Jaylen Brown + picks for Kevin Durant and with these recent reports. I'd say if it goes through, there'll be riots across Boston. Seems very unlikely that this goes through.

It will be a bad trade for the Celtics if it will include Tatum. He is the franchise player, not Brown not Marcus Smart. So it they bite on the Nets request, it will really be a disaster for them. They have found the right combinations already, including the coach, they've reach the finals and almost had a coach chance to win the championship. I'd say forget about that deal, let their team go to another season intact and see if they can go as far as the finals again and maybe won the ring this time.

I couldn't agree more! They should forget about this deal and forget the thought of acquiring Durant in their roster because that will be just a disaster for their team, they should just focus on what they have now because they are now an experienced team as they managed to have an appearance in the Finals against GSW. I bet they will be much more stronger than any team because of that, they just need more push and exposure to be one of the finest team in the league.

I also have that same opinion about Celtics, they don't need KD, the only thing that they needed to do is to continue doing more progress

with their system, they've made it to the finals last season the players deserves kudos for doing their roles and now they will again try to

push for another shot in chasing the world title, having KD and breaking the good chemistry might not be a good idea for the Celtics' managements.

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Quote from: vennali on August 10, 2022, 06:03:07 PM

"Brooklyn Nets reportedly asked for Jaylen Brown AND Jayson Tatum for Kevin Durant. " Most celtics fans already hated the previous report of Jaylen Brown + picks for Kevin Durant and with these recent reports. I'd say if it goes through, there'll be riots across Boston. Seems very unlikely that this goes through.

If there's Splash Brother in the West with Curry and Thompson, these dudes can be compared to them in the East. Not that of splashy threes as the Warriors player but these two can lit up the arena when they get into the zone. Of course, the fans will be angry if this will gonna happen, this is too much of a show for Boston Celtics Basketball if they grant this one. Yeah, they want to scale with the likes of KD but with the current state of NBA where they chase superstars, it ends in disaster, just look at LA Lakers, and Sixers now.

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Quote from: freedomgo on August 11, 2022, 09:40:31 AM

Quote from: vennali on August 10, 2022, 06:03:07 PM

"Brooklyn Nets reportedly asked for Jaylen Brown AND Jayson Tatum for Kevin Durant. " Most celtics fans already hated the previous report of Jaylen Brown + picks for Kevin Durant and with these recent reports. I'd say if it goes through, there'll be riots across Boston. Seems very unlikely that this goes through.

I wonder if the Celtics will be interested about that because Jaylen Brown is a vital asset in the team's success last season even if they didn't get the title but they managed to get as far as the Finals even though they don't have any experience at all, what makes them unique is the trust and chemistry they have. In that case, the Celtics shouldn't bother with that because the team will be just left alone again if in case Durant won't be satisfied.

Maybe they are interested if it will be Jaylen Brown, Kobe White and one other player and some future picks. But it seems that the Nets right now are trying to include Tatum in the situation, which the Celtics might decline.

So maybe they will have to look at the Phoenix Suns and see what package they are going to offer for a Durant trade. Or even Miami Heat, we will see. I think the Nets management will stick with their coach.

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Quote from: vennali on August 10, 2022, 06:03:07 PM

"Brooklyn Nets reportedly asked for Jaylen Brown AND Jayson Tatum for Kevin Durant. " Most celtics fans already hated the previous report of Jaylen Brown + picks for Kevin Durant and with these recent reports. I'd say if it goes through, there'll be riots across Boston. Seems very unlikely that this goes through.

I wonder if the Celtics will be interested about that because Jaylen Brown is a vital asset in the team's success last season even if they didn't get the title but they managed to get as far as the Finals even though they don't have any experience at all, what makes them unique is the trust and chemistry they have. In that case, the Celtics shouldn't bother with that because the team will be just left alone again if in case Durant won't be satisfied.

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