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July 25, 2022, 03:23:52 AM
The latest Woj bomb is that Boston is back in the Durant sweepstakes.

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1551454984314753024?s=21&t=w1qEPWBdZ9JMV3B1ji-y5g

I don’t think it would be a good idea for Boston to get Durant but it seems like they’re always on the list of places Durant wants to play. I’m starting to think the Nets are the most likely team for Durant next season. I would like to see how a Durant and Kyrie trade would play out though.
Base on the article of ESPN, here is the constructed package for the Boston Celtics.
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The Celtics consider All-NBA forward Jayson Tatum off limits in any trade talks, but Boston is able to construct a package for Durant that could include Brown and as many as three unprotected first-round picks (2025, 2027 and 2029) -- and two pick swaps (2024 and 2026).
So they are including Brown in the trade deals plus some draft picks.

Durant + Tatum? I don't know if it's only me but I think they can fit with each other. Tatum is already a good passer and he showed it in the past playoffs and Durant? Nothing to say about him but he is one of the best shooters in the world. If this trade will be done, the Celtics might be the favorite in winning the championship next year. The question is, the Nets want this trade or they might add some bench players like Grant Williams or Theis or another player/s.

On the other hand because it is taking a long time for Kyrie and KD to get traded, there is also a chance that they might stay in Nets like you said though I don't think that it is a good idea for the Nets management so it would be better if they will just trade them and find another set of players and maybe rebuild.
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July 25, 2022, 03:20:34 AM
The latest Woj bomb is that Boston is back in the Durant sweepstakes.

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1551454984314753024?s=21&t=w1qEPWBdZ9JMV3B1ji-y5g

I don’t think it would be a good idea for Boston to get Durant but it seems like they’re always on the list of places Durant wants to play. I’m starting to think the Nets are the most likely team for Durant next season. I would like to see how a Durant and Kyrie trade would play out though.

This is definitely not a good idea. As far as I know, the Celtics don't want to trade Tatum, but they might as well offer Jaylen Brown and three first-round draft picks(+ two swap picks) for Durant. As for me, it would be a strange and stupid decision by the Celtics' management, given that Brown has been very useful to the team, especially in the playoff series. Also, I can't imagine Durant and Tatum playing together. In that case, Tatum would obviously be in Durant's shadow.
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July 25, 2022, 02:50:27 AM

Dirk is incomparable to Harden.

But we'll see if Harden proves himself right and did the right thing. There are players that would prove themselves did the right decision and before they retire, they've got at least an achievement with their former team.

Let's see if Harden is just all talk as he said he's gonna get the ring now with his new form. That's quite of a word but everyone of them has got that inspiration and boosting words for themselves to show the fans.

That is some big words for a guy, but I think he meant it when he said it and in my opinion, James Harden is very serious in what he is talking about right now with all this trade and talk about the move, I think he will settle his years for Philadelphia 76ers depending on the result this next season, I really wish the 76ers will have a solid run to lock themselves on the Final game of the NBA,


I wouldn't say no players would take cuts, I mean Durant took a cut when he was playing for Warriors and he even took a cut from his shooting as well, in other teams he played before he got there, (OKC) he was shooting a lot more and he was given the green light to shoot anytime he just wants to, nobody ever questioned him, back in the warriors he wasn't like that, he shot a lot less, and his points per game dropped a lot because he was with other players who scored a lot as well.

So, he took a cut, but also played less. All in all, if you want to be with other superstars then you are going to have to take a cut and get paid a bit less but you would have a higher chance to win.

Well, it will surely depend on what a player wants if he doesn't want to cut off his salary then expect a limited number of good players on the team, if he wants a ring then he needs to sacrifice a bit of his salary, just like Harden, James Harden really want to get something in what he'd sacrifice and I really like that in him, he will want his legacy to be build up more than the money he will receive, for now how I wish they could get players that are suitable on Embiid and Harden's play style,



Yeah, probably the Warriors just troll with Durant and the Nets,  Grin

For me it's not a good move for them to get Durant again, I mean they have won this season without him already with their core and Wiggins and Poole and the rest of the supporting team members (although majority of them has since then move already).

Teams are still still actively pursuing Durant, the last time I check is Phoenix, Heat and Utah.

For me, I really like what they did, and especially what Bob Myers has said that they are good with their current line-up right now, and if that is not something for the Nets or Kevin Durant to be upset and I don't really know what, for me getting Kevin Durant will likely get them nowhere again, they are good management that can surely train young guns to explore their talent and potential and I think the Golden State Warriors want their own diamond to be chipped,
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July 25, 2022, 02:33:56 AM
The latest Woj bomb is that Boston is back in the Durant sweepstakes.

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1551454984314753024?s=21&t=w1qEPWBdZ9JMV3B1ji-y5g

I don’t think it would be a good idea for Boston to get Durant but it seems like they’re always on the list of places Durant wants to play. I’m starting to think the Nets are the most likely team for Durant next season. I would like to see how a Durant and Kyrie trade would play out though.
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July 25, 2022, 02:18:25 AM
After having a wonderful season and reaching even the finale, I'm going to wonder what Boston Celtics will do in the new season. They were so close to win a championship after a break of so many years. However Warriors didn't let them do it. If Celtics don't make too big changes in their system I still believe that they can make it sooner or later. But their job is still going to be difficult of course. I wonder if they are thinking of changing some of the players in their roster. I hope the changes wouldn't be for their best players.

They do not have to make any drastic changes in their line up. Their starting is very young aside from Horford. That is good core and now they have an experience in the finals, they will develop more. An adjustment could bt to let Al Horford be on bench and put someone younger but equally talented to take his place in the starting line up. They do not have to trade Horford but keep him to keep the team anchored since they need a veteran guidance.


I like how the Golden State Warriors didn't complicate things regarding the possibility of signing Kevin Durant and decided to continue next season with almost the same lineup they have the previous season that won a title. It's a good move for them not to pursue getting the rights of Kevin Durant.

Basically, the Warriors also joined the Durant hype and even offer the Nets their possible trade package. Things failed as the Nets ask for more young players in return and the Warriors didn't take the bite.

We can now remove the Warriors from the list of teams that were rumored to have an interest in signing Kevin Durant this off-season.

They actually do not need Durant in their squad. They already have good chemistry and their trio is good for a few more years if there are no major injuries happening to them. And I like how they develop their young athletes that could replace their current Trio in the future. Getting Durant means throwing away the work they have done with their young athletes away.
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July 25, 2022, 01:42:01 AM
After having a wonderful season and reaching even the finale, I'm going to wonder what Boston Celtics will do in the new season. They were so close to win a championship after a break of so many years. However Warriors didn't let them do it. If Celtics don't make too big changes in their system I still believe that they can make it sooner or later. But their job is still going to be difficult of course. I wonder if they are thinking of changing some of the players in their roster. I hope the changes wouldn't be for their best players.
Good question.
They also have their trio consisting of Brown, Smart, and Tatum. It's just a matter of time before they take that championship. They are young, and skillful but lack experience. Now they have it, a lot of it, playoffs and Finals experience. All they need is to increase the level of intensity and add more roleplayers that will help the trio.
Plus they have a high defensive center, RWIII.
What they are missing may be a point guard, or a playmaker to avoid too many isolations plays whenever they are being cornered.
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July 25, 2022, 01:26:24 AM
After having a wonderful season and reaching even the finale, I'm going to wonder what Boston Celtics will do in the new season. They were so close to win a championship after a break of so many years. However Warriors didn't let them do it. If Celtics don't make too big changes in their system I still believe that they can make it sooner or later. But their job is still going to be difficult of course. I wonder if they are thinking of changing some of the players in their roster. I hope the changes wouldn't be for their best players.
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July 25, 2022, 01:10:59 AM
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Yeah, probably the Warriors just troll with Durant and the Nets,  Grin

For me it's not a good move for them to get Durant again, I mean they have won this season without him already with their core and Wiggins and Poole and the rest of the supporting team members (although majority of them has since then move already).

Teams are still still actively pursuing Durant, the last time I check is Phoenix, Heat and Utah.

Well, kinda not a good move, but still Durant would be a great addition to GSW. However, it may require to include Wiggins or Poole to the trade package if they pursue for Durant. If the warriors doesn't want to reconstruct their current roster to try to fit in Durant, then they'll just have to stick to what they have right now because like what you said, they just brought a championship. So, yeah most likely Durant will end up to one of those team you mentioned.
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July 25, 2022, 12:46:11 AM

I like how the Golden State Warriors didn't complicate things regarding the possibility of signing Kevin Durant and decided to continue next season with almost the same lineup they have the previous season that won a title. It's a good move for them not to pursue getting the rights of Kevin Durant.

Basically, the Warriors also joined the Durant hype and even offer the Nets their possible trade package. Things failed as the Nets ask for more young players in return and the Warriors didn't take the bite.

We can now remove the Warriors from the list of teams that were rumored to have an interest in signing Kevin Durant this off-season.
The Warriors won a title without Durant while Durant can't win a title if he isn't with the Warriors so what is the purpose on the first place why the Warriors are pursuing Durant. I believe that they are just following the hype but they really are just trolling so yes let's remove Warriors in the teams where Durant might get landed because the Warriors already said that they are happy with how the team is built currently. Still curious which team will get Durant though.

Speaking of Warriors, I read an article online regarding Wiggins and Poole. The Warriors at first is saying that they are keeping both players but that would be expensive. Here is what an analyst said:
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“They are expected to sit down with Poole soon to discuss an extension,” Letourneau wrote. “Whether one gets done, though, will depend on just how much money he asks for. If he wants at or near the max, the Warriors might prefer to let things play out and wait until he hits restricted free agency in 2023.”

“By waiting, the Warriors give themselves more options,” he wrote. “Perhaps Wiggins struggles and can be had next summer at a lower rate. Perhaps the Warriors decide they can’t keep both Wiggins and Poole, so they start looking into trade packages involving Wiggins.”
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/golden-state-warriors-might-trade-andrew-wiggins-to-keep-jordan-poole-says-team-insider/ar-AAZUXoS
Looks like they have a Plan B if things will not work their way and they might trade Wiggins in the future and keep Poole.
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July 25, 2022, 12:37:56 AM
Not sure about this. Even though Kyrie have a great run with Lebron during their Cavaliers days, Irving doesn't like to work under the shadows of Lebron James and that makes him consider switching teams. Kyrie wants to establish a team and carry it to the top with him as the star player.

If he will go to the Lakers next season and will change his behavior of having too much pride, he might be effective to pair with Lebron James and Anthony Davis. He just needs to play at his best without the purpose of defeating and dominating his own teammates.
Sometimes I wonder about this possibility... but will Kyrie really be able to go to the Lakers!!?

I imagine one of the main reasons Kyrie left the Cavs was that he didn't want to be the ""shadow of LeBron James"" but to be the star player of the team!

If Irving really goes to the Lakers and he ""accepts"" being one of the team's best players (and not the top 1).
I will have no doubt about the Lakers can be a strong candidate to be champions in the next season. (Of course, some variables need to happen, for example, LJ and AD remain on the team).

I'll be curious and excited to know how it all ends!
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July 24, 2022, 10:19:03 PM


Teams are still still actively pursuing Durant, the last time I check is Phoenix, Heat and Utah.
Phoenix cannot afford Durant now that they resigned Ayton. Utah is still a possibility, but I doubt Durant has interest in Utah once they trade Donovan Mitchell. Miami may be the only suitor for Durant if they could get a deal done that doesn't include Jimmy Butler or Bam.
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July 24, 2022, 10:13:29 PM

Yeah, probably the Warriors just troll with Durant and the Nets,  Grin

For me it's not a good move for them to get Durant again, I mean they have won this season without him already with their core and Wiggins and Poole and the rest of the supporting team members (although majority of them has since then move already).

Teams are still still actively pursuing Durant, the last time I check is Phoenix, Heat and Utah.

Wiggins already unleash his full potential and the good thing was he was still on his prime.

Allowing him to continue what he was done to help the team last season will bring them a possible another title,
so with Poole who also growing in terms of skills, a young version of Chef and already gaining confidence playing
with the entire core, keeping them together will allow them to bring more title to GSW.
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July 24, 2022, 09:36:25 PM

I like how the Golden State Warriors didn't complicate things regarding the possibility of signing Kevin Durant and decided to continue next season with almost the same lineup they have the previous season that won a title. It's a good move for them not to pursue getting the rights of Kevin Durant.

Basically, the Warriors also joined the Durant hype and even offer the Nets their possible trade package. Things failed as the Nets ask for more young players in return and the Warriors didn't take the bite.

We can now remove the Warriors from the list of teams that were rumored to have an interest in signing Kevin Durant this off-season.

Yeah, probably the Warriors just troll with Durant and the Nets,  Grin

For me it's not a good move for them to get Durant again, I mean they have won this season without him already with their core and Wiggins and Poole and the rest of the supporting team members (although majority of them has since then move already).

Teams are still still actively pursuing Durant, the last time I check is Phoenix, Heat and Utah.
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July 24, 2022, 06:16:17 PM

I like how the Golden State Warriors didn't complicate things regarding the possibility of signing Kevin Durant and decided to continue next season with almost the same lineup they have the previous season that won a title. It's a good move for them not to pursue getting the rights of Kevin Durant.

Basically, the Warriors also joined the Durant hype and even offer the Nets their possible trade package. Things failed as the Nets ask for more young players in return and the Warriors didn't take the bite.

We can now remove the Warriors from the list of teams that were rumored to have an interest in signing Kevin Durant this off-season.
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July 24, 2022, 05:05:55 PM
Whether Kevin Durant takes a pay cut or not, I just believe that he needs to leave the team. Because this team started to seem not promising to me. They had a huge difficulty in qualifying for even the playoffs. They still failed big time in many games when they had Durant and Irving both in the starting five. Nets had better make some changes in the team. Of course Durant's departure would weaken the team in terms of scoring especially but it is up to them to find an alternative. Durant can be more successful in a decent team.
Define decent team? The standard is the Warriors based on what you're saying since KD failed in the other two teams he has been into. OKC was decent in my opinion but he still decided to run and join the splash brothers to complete a splash family hehe. Nets was also decent and doing well until Kyrie was barred from playing during the height of the pandemic.
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July 24, 2022, 04:45:21 PM
Let's see if Harden is just all talk as he said he's gonna get the ring now with his new form. That's quite of a word but everyone of them has got that inspiration and boosting words for themselves to show the fans.

James Harden already proved that he is one the best consistent players in the league. Averaging good stats per season consistently. But for championship goals, it should not just him to do the heavy loads but he should have some good teammates too that will accompany him on that goal. Joel Embiid is a good duo for him and always consistent too at monster stats. Sixers have to do their best to surround their key duos with good teammates.
He's proven himself as an individual but unlike any other good players, they've got the ring but him, not yet. That's what he needs to achieve for the remaining seasons of his career.

You're right that a championship isn't just all about one player but it's a combination with the help of other teammates that has the same goal as him.

There's still three months left before the regular season starts. What's catching for those remaining months are the transfers and trades and nothing that much interesting for now aside from the hype buzz for KD.
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July 24, 2022, 04:30:14 PM
If that happened, we will expect a better run from Lakers. Maybe they are still in behind the doors negotiations
In this trade, we never know what future for these two teams.

Not sure about this. Even though Kyrie have a great run with Lebron during their Cavaliers days, Irving doesn't like to work under the shadows of Lebron James and that makes him consider switching teams. Kyrie wants to establish a team and carry it to the top with him as the star player.

If he will go to the Lakers next season and will change his behavior of having too much pride, he might be effective to pair with Lebron James and Anthony Davis. He just needs to play at his best without the purpose of defeating and dominating his own teammates.
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July 24, 2022, 04:18:48 PM
Whether Kevin Durant takes a pay cut or not, I just believe that he needs to leave the team. Because this team started to seem not promising to me. They had a huge difficulty in qualifying for even the playoffs. They still failed big time in many games when they had Durant and Irving both in the starting five. Nets had better make some changes in the team. Of course Durant's departure would weaken the team in terms of scoring especially but it is up to them to find an alternative. Durant can be more successful in a decent team.
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July 24, 2022, 04:13:33 PM
Hmm, not sure about this though, is the Lakers not learned from last year's debacle? I mean getting old and veterans players? and it didn't click right?

The purpose maybe is to just fill the bench and not to heavily expect something good for a veteran like Jamaal Crawford. Lakers already knows that already and it doesn't mean that signing another veteran is already a bad move by the Lakers. If that's also a small and short-term contract, that should not harm the overall salary cap of the team.

Let's see if Harden is just all talk as he said he's gonna get the ring now with his new form. That's quite of a word but everyone of them has got that inspiration and boosting words for themselves to show the fans.

James Harden already proved that he is one the best consistent players in the league. Averaging good stats per season consistently. But for championship goals, it should not just him to do the heavy loads but he should have some good teammates too that will accompany him on that goal. Joel Embiid is a good duo for him and always consistent too at monster stats. Sixers have to do their best to surround their key duos with good teammates.
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July 24, 2022, 04:04:10 PM
Wow James Harden did it. He declined the 47 million dollars option in his existed contract and made a new one for 33 million dollars. Only to give Philadelphia 76ers room to get better players. I've written it before but once it is almost official, I still can't believe it. This is so cool! I don't remember anyone who does that before 35 years old. And for the 2023 - 2024 season he has an option for 35 million. Especially after this development, I really wish 76ers can get some good players and have a solid team and get to at least conference finals this season. With Embid and Harden, they have a very good core. Just need some role players that they can depend on. It seems like they will be the team I will be rooting for this season? Yes, almost there.
I don't think many basketball players would accept a salary cut to benefit their team. The sacrifice he made is really nice, I hope it will be of use to the team. Harden is still one of the best players in the league, and in fact, by refusing that money, he will probably stay a star player for a few more seasons.
He had enough problems last season already and we thought he was going to play in Philadelphia Smiley
I wouldn't say no players would take cuts, I mean Durant took a cut when he was playing for Warriors and he even took a cut from his shooting as well, in other teams he played before he got there, (OKC) he was shooting a lot more and he was given the green light to shoot anytime he just wants to, nobody ever questioned him, back in the warriors he wasn't like that, he shot a lot less, and his points per game dropped a lot because he was with other players who scored a lot as well.

So, he took a cut, but also played less. All in all, if you want to be with other superstars then you are going to have to take a cut and get paid a bit less but you would have a higher chance to win.
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