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July 28, 2022, 06:42:27 AM
The Golden State Warriors have shown some interest in picking up Carmelo Anthony for next season. I’m not sure how well he would fit in, but I’m sure he could do some damage off the bench. I’m thinking it would probably be his last chance to win a championship, so it wouldn’t be a bad option for him. I’d wait to see if Kyrie gets traded to the Lakers and see if I could run that back before anything else though.
Not really bad if the GSW will pick him. Last season IIRC it was him that has been taken almost at the last minute since no team would like to have him but good thing he's saved. I guess I like him to be there because of the thought that he's gonna take the ring with him before his retirement.
Maybe all of us would agree with that matter and the rest, arguable about the whatnots of him being in the dub nation.

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July 28, 2022, 05:10:58 AM

But the thing with KD is, he bolted out from the Warriors because he wanted his own team, so he did go to the Nets and instrumental on bringing Kyrie as well. But we have seen how disastrous it is, and now he wanted to join another successful them. So again, he will be what others call a bus rider, because he join team that is already strong in the first place. And having him bolster their chances to win a championship like the Suns or Heat, but at what cost.

He never cares. As long as he will get his paycheck and he will win another ring, nothing will change that.

KD is not minding what critics are saying, what matters on him is playing with a strong team and make his way to another title
and a possible another finals MVP, which is always possible as he was known as offensive players that makes good percentages
of converting it into a basket.
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July 28, 2022, 03:53:27 AM
The Golden State Warriors have shown some interest in picking up Carmelo Anthony for next season. I’m not sure how well he would fit in, but I’m sure he could do some damage off the bench. I’m thinking it would probably be his last chance to win a championship, so it wouldn’t be a bad option for him. I’d wait to see if Kyrie gets traded to the Lakers and see if I could run that back before anything else though.

Nah, better for GSW to pick other players specially that will play defense on them. The only reason I'm thinking why they shown some interest on Anthony is the experience. The Warriors pick up a lot of rookies from this years draft and then they have Moody, Kuminga and Wiseman. Maybe they wanted Anthony to give those rookies and sophomores some tips and him showing how to stay long in the NBA.
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July 28, 2022, 03:21:01 AM
Whether Kevin Durant takes a pay cut or not, I just believe that he needs to leave the team. Because this team started to seem not promising to me. They had a huge difficulty in qualifying for even the playoffs. They still failed big time in many games when they had Durant and Irving both in the starting five. Nets had better make some changes in the team. Of course Durant's departure would weaken the team in terms of scoring especially but it is up to them to find an alternative. Durant can be more successful in a decent team.
Define decent team? The standard is the Warriors based on what you're saying since KD failed in the other two teams he has been into. OKC was decent in my opinion but he still decided to run and join the splash brothers to complete a splash family hehe. Nets was also decent and doing well until Kyrie was barred from playing during the height of the pandemic.

For example, there are Suns and Heat which are rumoured to trade Durant and add him to the starting five. These are one of the strongest teams in NBA now. I would like to see Durant in one of these teams to find out how much successful he will be. Yes, Nets were an okay team but something was still going wrong for them. Even KD and Irving both couldn't help the team become more successful. Durant sill has only two championships in his career and maybe he needs some change now to be a winner again.

But the thing with KD is, he bolted out from the Warriors because he wanted his own team, so he did go to the Nets and instrumental on bringing Kyrie as well. But we have seen how disastrous it is, and now he wanted to join another successful them. So again, he will be what others call a bus rider, because he join team that is already strong in the first place. And having him bolster their chances to win a championship like the Suns or Heat, but at what cost.
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July 28, 2022, 03:17:05 AM
The Golden State Warriors have shown some interest in picking up Carmelo Anthony for next season. I’m not sure how well he would fit in, but I’m sure he could do some damage off the bench. I’m thinking it would probably be his last chance to win a championship, so it wouldn’t be a bad option for him. I’d wait to see if Kyrie gets traded to the Lakers and see if I could run that back before anything else though.

I think he's a good fit for the GSW coming off the bench. He could definitely do some damage as most of the guys in GSW can shoot everywhere and that gives him the advantage to find an open space where he can shoot uncontested.
I'd definitely love to see him win a championship before he retires. I know he'll have a better chance of winning a championship if joins the Warriors than the rest of his career from different teams.
Coming off the bench? yeah, I think it will be good, but him in the starting five, I doubt that he will fit on that rotation.

Maybe the Warriors thinks he can give 10-15 points solid in any given night. So let's see if the Warriors will give him another chance. Who knows, it could click and perhaps Carmelo Anthony will win his first ring before retiring.
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July 28, 2022, 03:06:58 AM
The Golden State Warriors have shown some interest in picking up Carmelo Anthony for next season. I’m not sure how well he would fit in, but I’m sure he could do some damage off the bench. I’m thinking it would probably be his last chance to win a championship, so it wouldn’t be a bad option for him. I’d wait to see if Kyrie gets traded to the Lakers and see if I could run that back before anything else though.

I think he's a good fit for the GSW coming off the bench. He could definitely do some damage as most of the guys in GSW can shoot everywhere and that gives him the advantage to find an open space where he can shoot uncontested.
I'd definitely love to see him win a championship before he retires. I know he'll have a better chance of winning a championship if joins the Warriors than the rest of his career from different teams.
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July 28, 2022, 02:18:12 AM
The Golden State Warriors have shown some interest in picking up Carmelo Anthony for next season. I’m not sure how well he would fit in, but I’m sure he could do some damage off the bench. I’m thinking it would probably be his last chance to win a championship, so it wouldn’t be a bad option for him. I’d wait to see if Kyrie gets traded to the Lakers and see if I could run that back before anything else though.

Pretty surprised to see he’s actually had a pretty decent shooting percentage the last couple of years. I honestly don’t know how his defense is these days (guessing not great) but he’d be a nice piece coming off the bench to score a few points for them. I wonder if iguodala will be back with the team next year, or perhaps Carmelo takes up that old x star player role off the bench instead.

I was under the impression that Iguodala was going to retire. He seemed in pretty bad shape at the end of last season.

Another interesting development is that Dwight Howard is in talks to join the Nets. I personally think that Dwight, Kyrie, KD, & Ben Simmons would be a nightmare for opposing teams, but we’ll see what sort of roster the Nets have once the season actually begins.
He is UFA. But he joked around the Warriors owner about a bigger contract.  Grin
https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/warriors/andre-iguodala-joe-lacob-joke-about-potential-warriors-return-next-season
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Turner then jokingly stated that Iguodala wants "$28 million" to return to the Warriors, prompting to Lacob reply that he is not getting that. Although he did not answer the question, Iguodala didn't say he was retiring either, potentially adding more fuel to the rumor fire that Iguodala could return for one more season.
They will sign him with another minimum veteran contract, I am sure of that. It will be like a thank you gift.
About Melo though, this is good as long as he learns the play he will definitely find an open room to use his sharpshooting skills.
Warriors are known to give opportunity to unknown players and those who are trying to get back on their feet. Iggy is one, Gary Payton II, then there's McGee, and Otto Porter Jr.
Coach Kerr will surely make a good play just for him.
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July 28, 2022, 01:24:28 AM
The Golden State Warriors have shown some interest in picking up Carmelo Anthony for next season. I’m not sure how well he would fit in, but I’m sure he could do some damage off the bench. I’m thinking it would probably be his last chance to win a championship, so it wouldn’t be a bad option for him. I’d wait to see if Kyrie gets traded to the Lakers and see if I could run that back before anything else though.

Pretty surprised to see he’s actually had a pretty decent shooting percentage the last couple of years. I honestly don’t know how his defense is these days (guessing not great) but he’d be a nice piece coming off the bench to score a few points for them. I wonder if iguodala will be back with the team next year, or perhaps Carmelo takes up that old x star player role off the bench instead.

I was under the impression that Iguodala was going to retire. He seemed in pretty bad shape at the end of last season.

Another interesting development is that Dwight Howard is in talks to join the Nets. I personally think that Dwight, Kyrie, KD, & Ben Simmons would be a nightmare for opposing teams, but we’ll see what sort of roster the Nets have once the season actually begins.
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July 28, 2022, 01:14:51 AM
~ Maybe nobody else will be able to put together a decent package.
It's probably their strategy to push other teams and see how far they would go for Durant. Since there are still 3 years remaining for his contract, I don't think they are in a hurry to let go of him. They can still drag this until the end of next season to get the best package.

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Maybe his veteran experience might help these young and talented players of the Warriors and knowing how dominant he is when he is in his prime, he will teach all of these to these players.
GSW has enough veterans in their roster for these youngsters to learn from. Maybe it's Carmelo who needs to learn from the younger Wiggins/Poole on how to perform at the big stage Grin
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July 28, 2022, 12:44:13 AM
The Golden State Warriors have shown some interest in picking up Carmelo Anthony for next season. I’m not sure how well he would fit in, but I’m sure he could do some damage off the bench. I’m thinking it would probably be his last chance to win a championship, so it wouldn’t be a bad option for him. I’d wait to see if Kyrie gets traded to the Lakers and see if I could run that back before anything else though.

Pretty surprised to see he’s actually had a pretty decent shooting percentage the last couple of years. I honestly don’t know how his defense is these days (guessing not great) but he’d be a nice piece coming off the bench to score a few points for them. I wonder if iguodala will be back with the team next year, or perhaps Carmelo takes up that old x star player role off the bench instead.
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July 28, 2022, 12:25:02 AM
^ I saw the Suns went all in and offered a ton of picks along with their best young guys. Without Ayton though, I would agree that the Suns are out. You never know though. Maybe nobody else will be able to put together a decent package. The Suns with their offer put everything they have on the table. Not sure how many other clubs will do that for Durant.
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July 28, 2022, 12:21:18 AM
Whether Kevin Durant takes a pay cut or not, I just believe that he needs to leave the team. Because this team started to seem not promising to me. They had a huge difficulty in qualifying for even the playoffs. They still failed big time in many games when they had Durant and Irving both in the starting five. Nets had better make some changes in the team. Of course Durant's departure would weaken the team in terms of scoring especially but it is up to them to find an alternative. Durant can be more successful in a decent team.
Define decent team? The standard is the Warriors based on what you're saying since KD failed in the other two teams he has been into. OKC was decent in my opinion but he still decided to run and join the splash brothers to complete a splash family hehe. Nets was also decent and doing well until Kyrie was barred from playing during the height of the pandemic.

For example, there are Suns and Heat which are rumoured to trade Durant and add him to the starting five. These are one of the strongest teams in NBA now. I would like to see Durant in one of these teams to find out how much successful he will be. Yes, Nets were an okay team but something was still going wrong for them. Even KD and Irving both couldn't help the team become more successful. Durant sill has only two championships in his career and maybe he needs some change now to be a winner again.

Suns are out.  They don't have the draft capital and the one piece they could trade for Durant (at least for the time being) he is locked up.  By signing Ayton they can't trade him until months later, I think Jan and a full year to the Pacers who signed him to a sheet.  Without ayton and good amount of draft picks Suns are well out.  Which given theor team structure might actually be better for them in the long run.
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July 27, 2022, 09:00:28 PM
The Golden State Warriors have shown some interest in picking up Carmelo Anthony for next season. I’m not sure how well he would fit in, but I’m sure he could do some damage off the bench. I’m thinking it would probably be his last chance to win a championship, so it wouldn’t be a bad option for him. I’d wait to see if Kyrie gets traded to the Lakers and see if I could run that back before anything else though.
At last, he will have his first championship with the Warriors after how many years of being a main scorer of the Nuggets and the Knicks and yet he can't won a title. JK

Maybe his veteran experience might help these young and talented players of the Warriors and knowing how dominant he is when he is in his prime, he will teach all of these to these players. I think he already accepted being a bench so if this will happen, it will be a boost to the bench as well as the young players.
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July 27, 2022, 07:19:00 PM
The Golden State Warriors have shown some interest in picking up Carmelo Anthony for next season. I’m not sure how well he would fit in, but I’m sure he could do some damage off the bench. I’m thinking it would probably be his last chance to win a championship, so it wouldn’t be a bad option for him. I’d wait to see if Kyrie gets traded to the Lakers and see if I could run that back before anything else though.
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July 27, 2022, 04:33:29 PM
Actually I think the same as you too. The chemistry in the team would reach higher levels in time as long as they don't decide to rebuild the team suddenly. When it comes to Horford I believe that he is still performing really decently despite being 36 years old now. Maybe they can make slight changes but this shouldn't affect the main starting five players much. This team deserve to play in the final series once again and to reach the championship at the end as well.
It is not about Hordford, they could replace him with someone else and still be at this level, it is about other players. The only big glaring problem they have right now is Marcus Smart, he could be a pesky defender but we have seen him do horrible when he was against Curry, meaning he could be stopping players at a regular season level, but he is not the type of defender that you would want to defend at finals level, hell even during most playoffs.

This is why I believe that we shouldn't be expecting them to keep Smart, nor Horford for a long time. Meaning a package deal with both of them to get someone younger and better would be better for them, so it is not a rebuild, but a good adjustment has a potential.
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July 27, 2022, 04:12:41 PM
Whether Kevin Durant takes a pay cut or not, I just believe that he needs to leave the team. Because this team started to seem not promising to me. They had a huge difficulty in qualifying for even the playoffs. They still failed big time in many games when they had Durant and Irving both in the starting five. Nets had better make some changes in the team. Of course Durant's departure would weaken the team in terms of scoring especially but it is up to them to find an alternative. Durant can be more successful in a decent team.
Define decent team? The standard is the Warriors based on what you're saying since KD failed in the other two teams he has been into. OKC was decent in my opinion but he still decided to run and join the splash brothers to complete a splash family hehe. Nets was also decent and doing well until Kyrie was barred from playing during the height of the pandemic.

For example, there are Suns and Heat which are rumoured to trade Durant and add him to the starting five. These are one of the strongest teams in NBA now. I would like to see Durant in one of these teams to find out how much successful he will be. Yes, Nets were an okay team but something was still going wrong for them. Even KD and Irving both couldn't help the team become more successful. Durant sill has only two championships in his career and maybe he needs some change now to be a winner again.
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July 27, 2022, 04:06:37 PM
Relating things to Kawhai before moving to raptors. He's also fully equipped

with role players who are willing to adjust to the type of game he was playing. That's a question that will only be answered once the

trade happens with KD in Boston.
There will be too many adjustments that need to be done if Boston really likes to get KD and trade Jaylen for him. I see that this is not going to do well for Boston.
They just have to keep with their stack and forget about this trade. Jaylen has proven his worth and if he's transferred to the Nets, it will be another adjustment for him. Their roster has already achieved something last season and they should have keep it and just improve more, I don't think that KD would be a good addition to them.
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July 27, 2022, 01:02:17 PM
I don't think it will be that bad since its Brown and draft picks. Yes he's an important part of the team but replacing him with KD would not totally disrupt the team rhythm since the Celtics still have the role players. This could actually play out well for the team in the short term. Tatum will most likely continue to be the team facilitator because we know Durant isn't a ball hog and has no problem moving without the ball.

Brooklyn Nets are not dumb to just take Brown and the future draft picks.

They want to maximize as much as they can the good trade package they can get from Kevin Durant. It's not just Brown but for sure Nets are also asking for more which includes the key players of the Boston Celtics and might be, Jayson Tatum too.

I hope Nets won't get a trade package deal to trade Durant. This is to give Durant a problem and a lesson as well. If that happened, Durant will play on the Nets even he don't like it or not. Or the worst case, if the Nets didn't find any good trade package but are eager to trade Durant, they will end up trading him with a small package.

As soon as the Nets say taytum Celtics are hanging up.  Taytum is the future of Boston basketball even if they get Durant.  Giving up taytum in any package is going to make them a worse team.  I can see brown going and a couple picks.  Durant has 4 years on his contract its not like they only get em for a year or 2.  Someone is going to have to shed a lot of assets if they want him.

Even Celtics are willing to give up Brown and a couple of future draft picks, that's not enough for the Nets to agree with trading Durant. I'm sure the Nets want Jayson Tatum too. The reason I say that future draft picks are not a priority for the Nets since they already even gave up their own draftees when they signed Durand and Irving.

The Nets clearly want a big name too and Brown doesn't even on the same tier as Durant. Let's wait what will happened.

At this point with career paths I'm sure Boston would say no for a straight Durant and taytum swap.  Taytum is the future and Durant will be on the downturn.  There are a couple untouchables in the league and taytum is one of them.  What does Boston have if they get rid of taytum and brown and only get back Durant.  They running Durant and Marcus Smart out there lol
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July 27, 2022, 11:42:43 AM
Why Kevin Durant-for-Jaylen Brown trade would be just as risky for Nets as it would be for Celtics
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We don't know what that number will be yet, but we can make an educated guess. The cap for the 2022-23 season is projected to come in at $133 million. That would be a jump of nearly $10 million from this season's $123.6 million cap, which itself was an $11 million jump from the $112.4 million cap of the 2021-22 season. Say we factor in another $10 million jump that would take the cap up to $143 million when Brown is a free agent. If he signs for 30 percent of that cap, his 2024-25 salary would be $42.9 million. That's almost $9 million more than he could make on an extension, and that only represents the first year of the deal. Over the course of the full contract, he'd be sacrificing tens of millions of dollars.
I am not keen on contracts, extensions, (CBA)CBA Collective Bargaining Agreement, and other money-related things but this might be the one good reason why the Nets are looking for more.
Long-term they will have big problems in their cap space and I don't think they will like that as they were also rebuilding after this whole fiasco about Kevin Durant is over.
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The CBA does offer one possible workaround for players of Brown's caliber. If he makes an All-NBA Team next season, he would immediately become eligible for a five-year, supermax extension starting at 35 percent of the cap. But in another bit of Durant-related irony, such a contract would only be available to him if he remains in Boston.
And I learned another thing. I didn't know being an All-NBA has a huge effect on players' contracts. So that's why it is also written on every profile of an NBA player. Good read.
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July 27, 2022, 11:03:47 AM
I forgot who says that with the way the league is built right now with super teams, it will take at least 3 great players to win. So if we do the math, Tatum and then Durant might not be an effective weapons in the East and it will be hard to win a championship with just the 2 of them and again, there is the question of blending as well.
But the Golden State Warriors is not a super team. They just branded them with that name. Those guys put hard work in their career to achieve greatness.
Draymond cannot even shoot, his stats also went down from an average of near triple-double to almost not reaching a double-double this year.
Klay was not on his greatest career anymore. It's all teamwork that made them strong.
I still believe it's about chemistry but signing in mercenaries like Durant may also work just like how the Raptors won a championship by hiring Kawhi to help them out.


I personally agree with that argument, GSW trust the process and achieved, with a working system and a good set of players who are

willing to work alongside with each other, it's not that hard for this team to win a title together. Everyone is involved with how the rotations.

works with both offense and defense, and with all the players are moving, the ball ended up with an open man.

In terms of chemistry, it will be a question who's going to adjust. Relating things to Kawhai before moving to raptors. He's also fully equipped

with role players who are willing to adjust to the type of game he was playing. That's a question that will only be answered once the

trade happens with KD in Boston.
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