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I understand why Nets would want a very high price for Durant, but I also understand why other teams do not want to deal their entire future for him as well. What this leaves us with is the fact that they will try to trade him, fail to do so, and then it will end up another Harden situation. They got basically nothing in return of Harden, supposedly they got Simmons but they haven't even seen him play yet, and on top of that even if he does, he wasn't worthy of a Harden trade neither. Which is why Nets may get another one of those, they will end up with something not so terrible, but not worthy of Durant in the end.

The asking price set by the Nets for Durant's services seem to be too high, which has stalled a lot of teams to get out of negotiations early on. Celtics still seem to be interested but I don't think it'll happen as things stand. Only possible way is for Durant to force a move out of the Nets which could eventually happen. Getting back to Celtics, Brown + few picks + 1 more player might do the trick if all things align.

And it take years for Tatum to really blend with Smart and Brown, so this might be the case with Durant as well and by the time that Durant and Tatum have the chemistry it might be too late already. And then the injuries and age factor on Durant, he is 34 if I'm not mistaken, lot of wear and tear and now very prone to injuries. So by chance he gets injured again playing with Boston, Taatum will be having a hard time carrying the load for them.

If you are given the choice of 2 all-star level players who took you to a finals at a very very early age, compared to getting a superstar on his late years that hasn't done anything for any team that didn't had 4 all-stars in his entire career, you pick the young ones.

Think of it like this, we are talking about Durant here and that would be something that would be a bit of a problem because Durant is superstar but he is old these days and that would be a good idea to get him, but if only they could keep Tatum and Brown, if they can keep those two AND get Durant that would make sense, but selling the future for a win right now doesn't sound like a good idea. That is what Nets did and look what it took them.

The Nets were the biggest joke in the NBA. They have stacked too much superstars and got swept by the Boston Celtics in the first round. Now, Durant really wants to add up to the joke heading to the team who defeated them so badly this year. This is a very similar moves when he joined the GSW. He literally lived in a saying "can't beat them? Join them" lol.
They could actually re-run the full healthy roster next season, instead of running around looking for another team.

Hopefully the Celtics will wake up that they should not bite and strike the deal including Brown and Smart because that will really put them a year of setbacks. They've already managed to establish a good chemistry and the players can play good in offense and defense in the same time.

Letting go of Smart and Brown while adding Durant in the loop won't help the team because Tatum will struggle for sure because Durant will be the Alpha. The Celtics will be destroyed and will have the same situation next year where Durant will request a trade because he ain't going to sit in a team who won't give him a ring especially now that he's growing old.

I think that this might be the nearest case and actually, I can see that Durant will stay wearing the same jersey whether he likes it or not as well as Irving because the Nets surely know that they should get a good deal in exchange for Durant and Irving, and not taking short deals that will lead to disappointments again. The Nets still have another problem, I'm not forgetting this stubborn Simmons.

Indeed! The Boston Celtics should just focus on improving their current roster rather than tagging and adding along a player that will probably take some time to fit-in in their system. They reached the Finals last season all because of the hard work of the team, now they are more dangerous because they now have more experience from the last season. Surely they've picked up some lessons from facing heavy teams from the start of playoffs until they got in the Finals.

True.
It can't be Iggy or not even Wiggins. That won't be enough, it will just pump the blood in the vein of Michael Jordan and score 50 points by doing so.
Worse, they will be humiliated by all the trash talk he will give to them.
I think some people are forgetting that Michael Jordan is also a DPOY. He is scary on both ends of the floor unlike the offensive players now who are more focused on just scoring and forget that defense is also part of the game.
It won't be Steph vs Harper, it will be Jordan who will focus on him and I am pretty sure he won't score that easily even with their screen and rolls.
That guy is a genius and he even knows where the refs are positioned at.

Agree with Draymond there. It's dumb to compare eras where in the first place, teams or players involved in that discussion didn't have a chance to meet in the actual game. We can say that MJ can eat LeBron alive or vice-versa, Golden State Warriors' 2017 lineup can stop the 1998 Chicago Bulls if they will meet at the finals, and any other comparisons we are seeing today. But if these teams and players meet in the same era, for sure there will be adjustments for them both in their respective gameplay.

In other words, there's no exact reference to how can we even compare the past and current exactly.


The match-up you have mentioned might not happen. Let's don't talk about the Warriors' defense as what they will do against the Chicago Bulls or the Utah Jazz if ever we will have a simulation of their matchup, will be draining more 3s at the outside area.

The Warriors are covering their poor defense with a great offense where big players of Bulls or Jazz will be useless at some point.

Right now there are a lot of talks that the Boston Celtics are trading with the Brooklyn Nets and this time the Boston Celtics want Kevin Durant for Jaylen Brown, it's a viable trade but it can also be a horrific mistake, don't mind me I am just saying what I want, Right now the Golden State Warriors is out of the rumors because Bob Myers has spoken that there will be no trade for Kevin Durant and because Deandre Ayton can not be traded until January 15, 2023, he can not likely leave the Phoenix Suns just yet, so the Phoenix Suns is out for the trade for Kevin Durant, so the Boston Celtics might be the viable option for Kevin Durant, and trading him for Jaylen Brown, and three unprotected first-round picks, and two pick swap,


Well in the latest news Jaylen Brown is the only top player for the Boston Celtics they are willing to trade off for Kevin Durant and 3 more 1st round picks, this could be a mega trade for the Celtics or a horrifying trade for them, they could get a potential all-star that could surely give them the championship along with Jayson Tatum and Marcus Smarts, but is it worth it to trade Jaylen Brown? because it could surely go worst, but let's just wait for the next season,


Sorry but I have to disagree you can not say Marcus Smart and Jaylen Brown are just normal players, yeah Kevin Durant might be a proven superstar, and won multiple finals, MVP, and champion, but that is not it for underestimating Smart and Brown, Marcus Smart has landed the defensive player of the year, was really a great achievement, and Jaylen Brown is pretty much evolving very fast and creating a name for himself, and their ages Marcus Smart was 28 and Jaylen Brown only 25 and has done more for the Boston Celtics and besides with their current age they still have the ceiling for improvement but for Kevin Durant that is already 33 and nearing his retirement, I really think it is really a bad decision in urging in getting Kevin Durant, and right now Teams in the NBA has a lot of versatile players and mainly not focusing on Superstars anymore, and pretty much Boston Celtics have sweep the Brooklyn Nets last season,

I was not talking about woj but about Shams's report that the nets counter offer includes brown, smart, draft picks, and a possible role player in exchange for Durant. I just did some research on what is the counter offer on Ognasty's post below:


The Nets are maximizing what they can get from the Durant trade. Understandable since they build around Durant and then suddenly he is leaving them hanging.

You are right and exactly my point. It will have a negative effect for the Celtics if the trades ever comes true.


You actually have a point. This will not be just a battle between players but with coaching. It will be a chess match.

Both teams are no doubt very talented and competitive. It will all boil down to how each will adjust to the other team's strategy.

And who's going to coach them? Hahaha  but kidding aside, the 98 bulls can adjust to whatever types of a system GSW have now.

All those mentioned stars with their particular matchup are capable of running and guard those stars of GSW, and with MJ leading the way,

He was born to showcase their dominance. Green is just gaining the attention, and he did well. He got more readers now and listeners

that's how to make an easy crowd.

And that's why it's so dumb to compare eras. But for sake of argument:

Green vs Rodman or Karl Malone? I don't think that Draymond can guard this either one of them. Karl Malone alone, that physically, and then Rodman, freakish rebounding prowess that only Green can admire.

Klay Thompson vs Pippen ? (put your narrative here)
Steph Curry vs Ron Harper ?
Durant vs Toni Kukoc?

And the question is, who is going to guard Jordan?

Momentarily while reading the news I also disagree about what they will do.
But as I take my time to analyze how Durant plays right now, I may want it to happen. KD is like a mercenary now, you hire him, you use him. Not the family type of a player where he will stay in one team like Dirk Nowitzki, Steph, Kobe, and more. These players didn't ask for a trade and their management didn't even tried to trade them.
Another mercenary is Kawhi Leonard. Both of them doesn't need a long chemistry to be better in the floor, they can do it themselves and only relying with other players with what they are supposed to do according to their position.
Perhaps it will be a good move for the Celtics but I won't go so far as losing most of my roleplayers.

And Jaylen Brown is a silent type of player. I think he is deeply emotional and this ongoing trade negotiation affected him mentally. I love Jaylen and I'd been saying before that he is the most efficient player in Boston. I hope he's got the right people around him and he can understand things from a wider perspective.


Boston Celtics' offer was already rejected by Brooklyn. Brooklyn wants some more future draft picks and Smart. But maybe they continued their negotiation. Celtics management is confident that KD with Tatum works. Personally, both KD and Tatum are good team players so I'm good with it. And for some years I'd been thinking that Jaylen will forever become second after Tatum if he stays forever loyal in Boston, especially in his prime years. I always think of Jaylen as the Harden in OKC days. Maybe he will grow as a better person and a player once given the chance to lead a team. So this may be a blessing in disguise if a deal between Celtics and Nets materialized.    

Draymond Green shaking the social media universe. Again.
https://twitter.com/Money23Green/status/1551387749390749696?s=20&t=YvBGiJPHAIloq7mFvqLp8A
The last sentence is the main focus of what he said. It's dumb to compare eras. And I think we have discussed that here in our NBA thread.
Bulls were great in their time and I have no little doubt about that.
Lakers were also great with Kobe and Shaq.
Spurs were damn good with the trio and the added young Kawhi Leonard.
They have their own eras where they dominated the league but now it's just Warriors time.

Brown and Smart are just ordinary players unlike Durant who is proven to be a superstar, he has won multiple finals MVP and has won a champion, I guess that would make the Celtics stronger if they will succeed in getting Durant. Who knows, they might win a championship next season.

Yeah it is really just is how the league is right now. KD and the rest of the Celtics who would remain would find a way to gel / play together. That would definitely be giving up a lot for the Celtics, but if I were them I’d to close to whatever it took to get Durant as he brings you that much closer to a potential championship.

If Boston will take that deal, it's a best trade for the Nets. Smart and Brown are both promising stars that have good futures from the league,

letting Durant go for these two and with the two future picks would really favor them. Not sure how Boston will take this one and if they

are really interested and make it happen. Another question is on how KD and JT will jive and blend their games. Oh well, that's how the league

works now, trades and switch teams is a business not a career concern now..