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July 17, 2022, 11:29:27 AM
He's always confident that he can carry the team, he has had that mentality ever since and that's why he's manifesting that mindset into actions and we all saw that.
He thought he really is a great player, his power to demand got bigger when the Lakers won a championship, but actually it was Davis who work hard for that game, without Davis, Lebron would not win a championship. The thing is, the Lakers management sees Lebron as the captain of the ship, so they just give him the freedom to make a decision and that even includes affecting the management decision on who to hire and who to fire.
There's certainly no doubt that he's got help from other key players of the Lakers. But if I'll look at his entire career, he really is something and I'll have no debate with that because, for me, he's really great as an individual. And I think that's why he's giving the space to decide for whom he's going to team up.

If he still thinks he can carry the team alone, he is wrong. He needs not just a superstar with him but a strong set of role players coming from the bench. He cannot carry the Lakers alone anymore. Last season failed horribly because there is no young blood hungry for victory left in the team. They ship them all out.
Yeah, and that's why he's picking who he is going to stay with. I think he also knows that he's getting help from his teammates and he knows that they're dependable.
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July 17, 2022, 08:53:18 AM

I hope they will remain professional because in the end if Westbrook will not play well, it will still affect the Lakers as a team and Lebron will not be happy with that. What are they going to do with Westbrook then if they don't want him to play with Lebron, are they going to treat him like Simmon of the Nets before?

He should play well, I think this is the last time he will show the Lakers what he is still capable of, and no more showing-off this time, and right now Russell Westbrook's long-time agent Thad Foucher has parted ways with him after their unsettled differences and Foucher have said that Westbrook best option despite the many trades that links to him, is to just stay on the Lakers and get that 5 years maximum deal so maybe will not part ways with the Los Angeles Lakers,

Miami Heat are very determined to trade Kevin Durant now. Durant also seems to be willing to leave Nets at the earliest opportunity now. He has been given the priority for being traded as well. Irving might have to wait for this to happen before he asks for his trade. Losing both of their stars would be too heavy for Nets I'm afraid. As a Durant fan my new favourite team are going to be the one where goes to.  Grin  It is likely to be Miami Heat for now seemingly.

Well, they are thinking of ways to get Kevin Durant or Donovan Mitchell or both players to their team, I think either player will do for the Miami Heat, but Donovan Mitchell could be a great pick for Miami Heat, surely a Kevin Durant is more reliable and a source of a ton of money, they surely need to save expenses for the rest of the team, but if they have a certain amount to get both then try to acquire both players,


Too many news about Ayton.

Well, it's getting exciting and going back to KD. Whether GSW gets him or not, I'm sure that when it's close to the due date or deadline for trades there could be some last minute surprises.

Since it's about trades, I've remembered Carmelo Anthony when he was struggling last season and almost no team would like to take him until the last minute took place.

This can surely happen either he will stay for the Brooklyn Nets and have a heavy heart about it, or go to a team that needs and wants him, so much but it is still early, to say the least, anything can happen and Kevin Durant could likely be traded to a new team, until the next season starts, but yeah we surely need to wait patiently about it, and a last-minute trade could be possible,


Still no need in the KD or Irving, maybe they will remain a Nets at least for the time being. The Nets though are asking too much from the other team that they are not willing to give up.

I think the Nets are just asking enough but for other teams, it's too much. Both Irving and Durant still has a high value in the market, but since these players are demanding a trade, the liability now is on the Nets since they cannot expect these two will give their best to achieve a championship for the team, they better get rid of them and try to rebuild.

At the last minute of the trade, the Brooklyn Nets should decide quickly because they could be late for free agent players or players that wanted out of their team players that are superstars, or have potential will be traded by other teams and they can not have a pick any more, or maybe they will be settle down to the new players and hope one could pop out spectacular, I say rebuilding a team is not an easy job in my opinion, there will be money involve a lot of money, and dramas,
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July 17, 2022, 06:47:09 AM
LeBron really tore it up in the Drew League today.  Putting up 42 and 16 against the mostly amateur competition.  Pretty amazing that he's still able to dominate like this at his age.  Looking like if he can stay healthy next year will be another big one.

In other news,  Grin



https://twitter.com/RealSkipBayless/status/1548509555033681922
That's Skip, he always looks at the dark side. This is why I don't like reading his content.
Give the 37-year-old superstar a break. I bet Skip cannot even make a layup anymore at that age.  Cheesy
Anyway, most of the article also focuses on Kyrie not attending the invite but they are optimistic he will come today.

Just finished talking to a friend who is a big fan of Blake Griffin. Told him he is a free agent now.
What team do you think this 2009 number 1 draft pick will end up to?
He is just 33 years old, may not be a strong impact on the offensive end but he may be able to still help defensively.

Perhaps the Chicago Bulls? we all know that Blake is already way past his prime, his best years where with the Clippers with CP3. But when he got injured, no more high flying acts for him, but he did try to evolved and be a good 3 point shooter and a defender just like what he did with the Nets.

And the Bulls needed some veteran and experience players. Especially in close out games and during the playoff as well. If some savvy veteran like Blake can mentor Lavine and him also helping like in defense and rebounds in like 10-15 minutes a game, he will be a big help for the Bulls.

Blake still has a career IMO, he can still be useful to any team, and the fact that he is not expensive as he was before, he can easily be added to a roster of a team that needs an experienced big man. How about the Warriors? Maybe that will give him a chance to win a championship since the Warriors are a great team.
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July 17, 2022, 06:42:35 AM
LeBron really tore it up in the Drew League today.  Putting up 42 and 16 against the mostly amateur competition.  Pretty amazing that he's still able to dominate like this at his age.  Looking like if he can stay healthy next year will be another big one.

In other news,  Grin



https://twitter.com/RealSkipBayless/status/1548509555033681922
That's Skip, he always looks at the dark side. This is why I don't like reading his content.
Give the 37-year-old superstar a break. I bet Skip cannot even make a layup anymore at that age.  Cheesy
Anyway, most of the article also focuses on Kyrie not attending the invite but they are optimistic he will come today.

Just finished talking to a friend who is a big fan of Blake Griffin. Told him he is a free agent now.
What team do you think this 2009 number 1 draft pick will end up to?
He is just 33 years old, may not be a strong impact on the offensive end but he may be able to still help defensively.

Perhaps the Chicago Bulls? we all know that Blake is already way past his prime, his best years where with the Clippers with CP3. But when he got injured, no more high flying acts for him, but he did try to evolved and be a good 3 point shooter and a defender just like what he did with the Nets.

And the Bulls needed some veteran and experience players. Especially in close out games and during the playoff as well. If some savvy veteran like Blake can mentor Lavine and him also helping like in defense and rebounds in like 10-15 minutes a game, he will be a big help for the Bulls.
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July 17, 2022, 05:01:55 AM

Still no need in the KD or Irving, maybe they will remain a Nets at least for the time being. The Nets though are asking too much from the other team that they are not willing to give up.

I think the Nets are just asking enough but for other teams, it's too much. Both Irving and Durant still has a high value in the market, but since these players are demanding a trade, the liability now is on the Nets since they cannot expect these two will give their best to achieve a championship for the team, they better get rid of them and try to rebuild.
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July 17, 2022, 04:10:28 AM
^^ Really hard to digest what really happen to the Lakers last season and how it become toxic. Although it was really evident that in the beginning, something is not right as even in the pre-season with all eyes on them and high expectations there were already signs that it might not work and that what happen. And then Lebron injured himself and so is AD, Russ games didn't flourish, the supporting cast is not performing as expected etc etc. There is no single point of failure, just a culmination of bad timing and maybe bad decisions.
They don't have good supporting cast because they traded the ones that were really a big piece of the success of the Lakers. Now, they realize that they don't really need another superstar, in fact, Lebron and AD is enough because both have already won a championship together with the Lakers.

I think it's a win-win for them when they offload the likes of Kuzma and KCP and Trez base on their performance last season in the playoffs. And it's good that Washington that time accepted it so the Lakers think it's a good trade for them. But we already know what happen next and we only have our own speculation and biases as how it went downhill for the Lakers. Mostly the blame was put to Russ shoulders alone.
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July 17, 2022, 04:00:54 AM
^ Yeah, haters gonna hate, there are even video of DeRozan being lock down by some amateur in that game as well. But it doesn't matter, still you can see that James is still at his peak and maybe really excited to come back next season to play again with Lakers.

Still no need in the KD or Irving, maybe they will remain a Nets at least for the time being. The Nets though are asking too much from the other team that they are not willing to give up.

They are demanding for good trades knowing that they invest with these two assets and they are not willing to

let it go just by that, though we are not sure if what kind of negotiations are ongoing right now and how they are trying to
maximize any available offer coming from the different teams.

It will be revealed once the process is already on its way, but so far there's none or no available update yet in terms
of any possible team in acquiring these two super stars..
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July 17, 2022, 03:31:38 AM
^ Yeah, haters gonna hate, there are even video of DeRozan being lock down by some amateur in that game as well. But it doesn't matter, still you can see that James is still at his peak and maybe really excited to come back next season to play again with Lakers.

Still no need in the KD or Irving, maybe they will remain a Nets at least for the time being. The Nets though are asking too much from the other team that they are not willing to give up.
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July 17, 2022, 12:40:48 AM
LeBron really tore it up in the Drew League today.  Putting up 42 and 16 against the mostly amateur competition.  Pretty amazing that he's still able to dominate like this at his age.  Looking like if he can stay healthy next year will be another big one.

In other news,  Grin



https://twitter.com/RealSkipBayless/status/1548509555033681922
That's Skip, he always looks at the dark side. This is why I don't like reading his content.
Give the 37-year-old superstar a break. I bet Skip cannot even make a layup anymore at that age.  Cheesy
Anyway, most of the article also focuses on Kyrie not attending the invite but they are optimistic he will come today.

Just finished talking to a friend who is a big fan of Blake Griffin. Told him he is a free agent now.
What team do you think this 2009 number 1 draft pick will end up to?
He is just 33 years old, may not be a strong impact on the offensive end but he may be able to still help defensively.

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July 16, 2022, 11:46:53 PM
Ouch, anyway, it is what it is, so I guess we can say that we won't see Westbrook in Lakers uniform. Probably the same toxic environment as what Kyrie's situation in the Nets right now. And even though there is an assurance from their new coach that he will be in the starting lineup, Russ still wanted out of the Lakers. So, is he going to Rich Paul?  Wink

Not much detail is released to the public that's why we are ended up in speculations

The term "'irreconcilable differences'' does have many possible answers and if they tend to keep behind the doors, we have to leave it that way

Regardless if Westbrook will be traded or not, the Lakers are still Lakers. It's even better for me that WB will stay and do the experiment one more season as I'm sure WB is already used to playing with the Lakers even if it's just one season.

New acquired players, new coach, new system - they don't need another for it as chemistry will be in question again.

True, it's all speculation right now, him and his agent has been working together ever since WB joined the NBA if I'm not mistaken, but it is what it is. Maybe we really don't know what's the real reason behind, but it was just shocking news.

For sure we want him to stay with the Lakers and see how it goes with the new system. And who knows, maybe it will work, maybe not.

LeBron really tore it up in the Drew League today.  Putting up 42 and 16 against the mostly amateur competition.  Pretty amazing that he's still able to dominate like this at his age.  Looking like if he can stay healthy next year will be another big one.

In other news,  Grin



https://twitter.com/RealSkipBayless/status/1548509555033681922
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July 16, 2022, 09:42:57 PM
LeBron really tore it up in the Drew League today.  Putting up 42 and 16 against the mostly amateur competition.  Pretty amazing that he's still able to dominate like this at his age.  Looking like if he can stay healthy next year will be another big one.

In Kyrie/Lakers news...  It seems the Nets are still unimpressed by the trade packages that the Lakers are offering them for Kyrie.  I'm not sure if I want Kyrie to go to the Lakers or not, but it would be one hell of a move for them to get Kyrie and lose Russell's contract with one move.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/nba-rumors-nets-turn-down-lakers-offer-for-kyrie-irving-hit-them-with-counter-offer/ar-AAZEaP8?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=b934cc85136a400ebaee88c91ab8a80b
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July 16, 2022, 09:40:56 PM
It was always known 100% beforehand that Westbrook would be a horrible fit, they knew it but they took a dice anyway for some reason. No idea why they did that, and why they picked Westbrook to play with them. Don't get me wrong, I still think westbrook would be a great player where he is the main ball handler, but he can't be the guy who you pass out to, and that's what they used him as, which was a horrible idea.

If you look at Westbrook version with the Washington, he was still somewhat a great player, although he has injury history with the Wizards, still him and Beal make a good combo and bring them to the playoff for the first time it years. So maybe that's what the Lakers is holding that time.

The team Lakers had with like Rondo and Caruso, and so forth, along with Monk and THT, that would be very good if they had Lebron and AD and nobody else. Now, they have to hope that they could tradeaway WB for something, anything, just so they could get better.

They can't match Caruso, so obviously they had to left them go to Chicago. And then didn't shift THT, I think they are banking that he will be a good contributor. Actually he was really playing really good, that's why the chooses Kuzma and others in the trade with Westbrook. Unfortunately, this year THT performance went on a spiral.
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July 16, 2022, 06:50:34 PM
Ouch, anyway, it is what it is, so I guess we can say that we won't see Westbrook in Lakers uniform. Probably the same toxic environment as what Kyrie's situation in the Nets right now. And even though there is an assurance from their new coach that he will be in the starting lineup, Russ still wanted out of the Lakers. So, is he going to Rich Paul?  Wink

Not much detail is released to the public that's why we are ended up in speculations

The term "'irreconcilable differences'' does have many possible answers and if they tend to keep behind the doors, we have to leave it that way

Regardless if Westbrook will be traded or not, the Lakers are still Lakers. It's even better for me that WB will stay and do the experiment one more season as I'm sure WB is already used to playing with the Lakers even if it's just one season.

New acquired players, new coach, new system - they don't need another for it as chemistry will be in question again.
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July 16, 2022, 06:06:09 PM
The Lakers traded some of their young and best bench players like Kuzma, KCP and Caruso which is one of the best in defense just to get Westbrook. Turns out that it became worse for them. The players who helped the team get a title got traded to different teams just to get a player where they expect that will help the team get another title again, but it didn't happen.

Kyle Kuzma is a joke so trading him is good. He even claimed he's the number 3 behind LBJ and AD but what happened. He is very consistent from being always an off-night player. He explodes but only a few times. There are lots of games where LBJ and AD are sidelined and he was expecting to step up but still a failed one. His fellow co-teammate on Lakers, Brandon Ingram is much better than him. That's the mistake that the Lakers did in a package that sent Davis to them.

But I can't apply the same case with Kuzma and KCP as these players are surely worth keeping but the Lakers decided to trade them.

Instead of blaming the game, they just have to do everything to make a better team. And Lakers management is not that shit to be influenced by Lebron. Who told others that it's Lebron the reason why Westbrook was signed by the Lakers. Huh
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July 16, 2022, 04:31:49 PM
It was always known 100% beforehand that Westbrook would be a horrible fit, they knew it but they took a dice anyway for some reason. No idea why they did that, and why they picked Westbrook to play with them. Don't get me wrong, I still think westbrook would be a great player where he is the main ball handler, but he can't be the guy who you pass out to, and that's what they used him as, which was a horrible idea.

The team Lakers had with like Rondo and Caruso, and so forth, along with Monk and THT, that would be very good if they had Lebron and AD and nobody else. Now, they have to hope that they could tradeaway WB for something, anything, just so they could get better.
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July 16, 2022, 04:24:37 PM
Westbrook cannot be an effective point guard because Lebron James is the real point guard for the Lakers. Maybe that's one of the reasons why Westbrook was struggling because he is adjusting to his new role, he has been playing as PG in his past teams and join the Lakers for a new system.

Lakers have a big job of making sure Westbrook will fit, and they have to do that this season if they want to keep him.

It seems to me LeBron wasn't the cause of Westbrook's poor efficiency last season. Westbrook has had a whole season to adapt his style of play to his new teammates. However, I wouldn't say Russ even tried to improve his performance as he didn't care at all about turnovers and missing shots. I mean, it was pretty common for him to have 7 or more turnovers per game both at the beginning and end of the season, and that's just unacceptable for a true point guard.
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July 16, 2022, 01:51:43 PM
^^ Really hard to digest what really happen to the Lakers last season and how it become toxic. Although it was really evident that in the beginning, something is not right as even in the pre-season with all eyes on them and high expectations there were already signs that it might not work and that what happen. And then Lebron injured himself and so is AD, Russ games didn't flourish, the supporting cast is not performing as expected etc etc. There is no single point of failure, just a culmination of bad timing and maybe bad decisions.
They don't have good supporting cast because they traded the ones that were really a big piece of the success of the Lakers. Now, they realize that they don't really need another superstar, in fact, Lebron and AD is enough because both have already won a championship together with the Lakers.
They should have let go Rondo and Green with them, these two has good impact not just on the regular and playoffs season but they contribute to championship too, their experience is already there. I don't think they need Russ and Anthony on the first place, that was just a show from LeBron I guess, they don't want that championship last season.
Agreed, Lebron encouraged the management to acquire those old superstars in exchange for there young talent and veteran support. He was over confident that he can carry the team even with these broken superstar players. His pride cause them a lot because they even can’t enter the playoffs even Davis return on crucial matches.
I mean Davis can be a great help during the regular season if he was just that healthy but I guess the blame was on Russ with how he played. As a point guard he should have done better. I say bad decisions over the trades they shouldn't have done and players they shouldn't have let go. Anthony and Westbrook seems to can't carry a team, historically even when they aren't yet in Lakers, their personal stats may be that good but it's just solely on that.

Westbrook cannot be an effective point guard because Lebron James is the real point guard for the Lakers. Maybe that's one of the reasons why Westbrook was struggling because he is adjusting to his new role, he has been playing as PG in his past teams and join the Lakers for a new system.

Lakers have a big job of making sure Westbrook will fit, and they have to do that this season if they want to keep him.
Then that's really a bad move when he wants Russ to be on the Lakers in the first place if that has been the case. I think it will be a good trade and will benefit both parties if the Lakers agree on the Westbrook-Irving trade, but of course we may never know what the BKN will want to get this done.
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Free agent guard Austin Rivers has agreed on a one-year deal with the Minnesota Timberwolves, his agents Dave  Spahn and Aaron Mintz of CAA Sports tell ESPN. Rivers played 67 games for Denver a year ago, where new president Tim Connelly signed him in consecutive seasons.
Okay.
Not much of an impact offensively during his Nuggets years. But offense is not a problem in Timberwolves with KAT, DLo, and Edwards, they need defenders in their prime or veterans who could provide help in the defensive end so I guess he is a good choice for them.
Just curious about the different approach of the Twolves now, last year was Patrick Beverley but he became part of the box office trade for Rudy Gobert.
It's like they are focusing on defensive players.
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July 16, 2022, 11:02:31 AM
Agreed, Lebron encouraged the management to acquire those old superstars in exchange for there young talent and veteran support. He was over confident that he can carry the team even with these broken superstar players.
He's always confident that he can carry the team, he has had that mentality ever since and that's why he's manifesting that mindset into actions and we all saw that.


He thought he really is a great player, his power to demand got bigger when the Lakers won a championship, but actually it was Davis who work hard for that game, without Davis, Lebron would not win a championship. The thing is, the Lakers management sees Lebron as the captain of the ship, so they just give him the freedom to make a decision and that even includes affecting the management decision on who to hire and who to fire.

It's a bond between Lakers and LeBron after they've got him from the east side, he got that privilege

to pick who are those players to surround him, they've got a good run during the bubble because of AD's healthy season
but we have seen the impact after he got another serious injury.

Last season was a joke, putting old superstars are not a good decision from the Lakers management they can't run against
the younger and stronger new sets of stars.
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July 16, 2022, 08:52:18 AM
^^ Really hard to digest what really happen to the Lakers last season and how it become toxic. Although it was really evident that in the beginning, something is not right as even in the pre-season with all eyes on them and high expectations there were already signs that it might not work and that what happen. And then Lebron injured himself and so is AD, Russ games didn't flourish, the supporting cast is not performing as expected etc etc. There is no single point of failure, just a culmination of bad timing and maybe bad decisions.
They don't have good supporting cast because they traded the ones that were really a big piece of the success of the Lakers. Now, they realize that they don't really need another superstar, in fact, Lebron and AD is enough because both have already won a championship together with the Lakers.
They should have let go Rondo and Green with them, these two has good impact not just on the regular and playoffs season but they contribute to championship too, their experience is already there. I don't think they need Russ and Anthony on the first place, that was just a show from LeBron I guess, they don't want that championship last season.
Agreed, Lebron encouraged the management to acquire those old superstars in exchange for there young talent and veteran support. He was over confident that he can carry the team even with these broken superstar players. His pride cause them a lot because they even can’t enter the playoffs even Davis return on crucial matches.
I mean Davis can be a great help during the regular season if he was just that healthy but I guess the blame was on Russ with how he played. As a point guard he should have done better. I say bad decisions over the trades they shouldn't have done and players they shouldn't have let go. Anthony and Westbrook seems to can't carry a team, historically even when they aren't yet in Lakers, their personal stats may be that good but it's just solely on that.

Westbrook cannot be an effective point guard because Lebron James is the real point guard for the Lakers. Maybe that's one of the reasons why Westbrook was struggling because he is adjusting to his new role, he has been playing as PG in his past teams and join the Lakers for a new system.

Lakers have a big job of making sure Westbrook will fit, and they have to do that this season if they want to keep him.
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