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Quote from: Captain Corporate on July 15, 2022, 05:59:49 PM

Durant is still a superstar, anyone who says otherwise would be kidding themselves. Dude may not be great for the past few years since he left Warriors because of some stuff. But at the end of hte day he is still a superstar. This means that if any team wants to trade for him, they need to make it a superstar amount and nothing lower would be accepted. Lakers deal could work for Irving, but if anyone wants to get Durant, they need to offer at least one all-star and then some other stuff, like role players and high valued picks just to get him. Suns could still work, but I doubt they would be willing to give young Booker, for older Durant, that would be weird.

No one is questioning about Durant star power, it has been proven already, but the bitch moved he pulls asking for a trade this early might not sit with some OG players and analyst. And they are roasting him since leaving the Warriors and joining Kyrie with the Nets specially that the Warriors won the NBA trophy last season.

If he wanted to go to the Suns then so be it, let's see how many players the Suns are willing to left go of their cohesive team just to get KD and if the gamble is going to pay off later.

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Quote from: dwyane36 on July 15, 2022, 07:21:23 PM

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It is indeed good for the Phoenix Suns because they have managed to match the offer with the Pacers, now Ayton are staying but they could've saved more money if they offer Ayton much earlier but what's done is done and the thing is that they are able to keep Deandre Ayton for that.

There might be a rumor about that but the Heat has nothing to offer to the Nets in exchange for Durant.
Nets Prefer To Keep Kevin Durant Due To Below Expectation Trade Offers

On the one hand, it's good that the Suns decided to sign a contract with Ayton. On the other hand, it looks like we won't see Durant in the Suns uniform since the Suns now simply don't have the assets to compete with other teams for a Durant trade. By the way, there have also been rumors that the Knicks, Heat, and Nets want Mitchell. What do you think about that? Is a multilateral deal involving Mitchell and Durant possible?

I don’t think so. I would assume any interest the Nets have in Mitchell would be for a Kyrie trade. I think Durant is going to end up in a Nets uniform to start the year. Kyrie will probably move to Los Angeles and it will be KD and Ben Simmons for a while. Maybe once the season gets going a contender will want to make a move for KD with some big pieces. KD seemed to have his heart set on Phoenix, so who knows what happens now.

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Let's just give Darvin Ham the benefit of a doubt for now, I know he is somehow inexperienced when it comes to being a head coach but all coaches who became a head coach started the same stage as with Coach Darvin's situation now. The whole management surely thought of this hard and the fact that they picked Darvin as the new head coach really means something.
About Darvin Ham, I heard that he's also keen to keep Westbrook in the roster as he's willing to give Westbrook a 2nd chance to prove his worth and he also said that he could bring something out of Westbrook which Vogel didn't. Anyway, let's see!

Yes, it's not like every coach is a veteran when they came in.
I like his attack, he's already optimistic about what he can do with Westbrook. A new plan from a new head coach and maybe he really have something up in his sleeves.
The difference with Coach Vogel maybe because he was a defensive coach and WB is not. That's a player who is most likely better with Coach Mike D'Antoni who plays small ball speed offense. Run and gun.

Darvin Ham should also learn how to keep LeBron under him because we know that the King can climb up the ladder if he don't like how the coach moves, I knew that Darvin have already some plans to keep LeBron and Westbrook and restore the chemistry that has been missing because of what happened last season.
Vogel made a lot of mistakes throughout the season because he didn't expose the big players too often and only let them play when its needed and often use Westbrook even if he's not producing any good, Darvin may have some say about that but he doesn't have much voice as Vogel has the last decision that time. Now, we will see what Darvin could do.

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Quote from: freedomgo on July 15, 2022, 06:12:39 PM

It is indeed good for the Phoenix Suns because they have managed to match the offer with the Pacers, now Ayton are staying but they could've saved more money if they offer Ayton much earlier but what's done is done and the thing is that they are able to keep Deandre Ayton for that.

There might be a rumor about that but the Heat has nothing to offer to the Nets in exchange for Durant.
Nets Prefer To Keep Kevin Durant Due To Below Expectation Trade Offers

On the one hand, it's good that the Suns decided to sign a contract with Ayton. On the other hand, it looks like we won't see Durant in the Suns uniform since the Suns now simply don't have the assets to compete with other teams for a Durant trade. By the way, there have also been rumors that the Knicks, Heat, and Nets want Mitchell. What do you think about that? Is a multilateral deal involving Mitchell and Durant possible?

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Quote from: jakelyson on July 15, 2022, 05:58:41 AM

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New coach, different style, let's see if the Lakers system will be more effective under him. It would be a big accomplishment of the coach if he could make Westbrook better because last season was probably the worst season of Russell Westbrook after winning an MVP award.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/westbru01.html

That is if Westbrook remains with the Lakers. We all know that Lebron is keen to trade away Westbrook. Even if they fail to trade him, do you think Lebron and Westbrook will still have good chemistry after they throw Westbrook under the bus?

Darvin Ham has been vocal that he's been trying to keep Westbrook even if LBJ is trying to pressure the management to have Irving on the Lakers and let Westbrook go, now that's up to the management if they can offer something to the Nets because I bet offering Westbrook wouldn't suffice to get Irving.

Also, Irving's camp has also said that Kyrie Irving is looking to wear the same jersey this coming season even if KD will be traded somewhere.

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Not yet settled unless it comes from officially that they won't do the trade anymore. I haven't seen any news yet but most of them are all about its interest for taking KD and also allowing first picks just for him.

This is a big trade that they do ask and if an interested team really wants him, they'll just going to offer something that cannot be declined or hard to decline trade.

In actuality, I really don't like Kevin Durant to be on the Golden State Warriors ever again, but if they are interested in getting Durant then I am happy that they did, but right now the team that really wants him and I had read on the news was the Phoenix Suns, and they will get Either Bojan Bogdanovic or Jordan Clarkson but the Jazz is still not complying to their terms, and they would like to get Deandre Ayton, and Ben Simmons,

Too many news about Ayton.

Well, it's getting exciting and going back to KD. Whether GSW gets him or not, I'm sure that when it's close to the due date or deadline for trades there could be some last minute surprises.

Since it's about trades, I've remembered Carmelo Anthony when he was struggling last season and almost no team would like to take him until the last minute took place.

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Quote from: Questat on July 15, 2022, 04:34:02 AM

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So it means that Ayton will stay with Phoenix after-all? Things have been said and done, hopefully they can still patch up things.

However, does it mean though that Ayton could still be used as a trade bait for KD?

So the plot still thickens and everyone is waiting for any news regarding KD's request for a trade to the Suns.

Good for the Suns if they will stay but that means there's no KD in the Suns. There's a rumor that he could play with the Miami Heat, I think that team is a legit championship contender than the Suns due to their great defense.

It is indeed good for the Phoenix Suns because they have managed to match the offer with the Pacers, now Ayton are staying but they could've saved more money if they offer Ayton much earlier but what's done is done and the thing is that they are able to keep Deandre Ayton for that.

There might be a rumor about that but the Heat has nothing to offer to the Nets in exchange for Durant.
Nets Prefer To Keep Kevin Durant Due To Below Expectation Trade Offers

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Durant is still a superstar, anyone who says otherwise would be kidding themselves. Dude may not be great for the past few years since he left Warriors because of some stuff. But at the end of hte day he is still a superstar. This means that if any team wants to trade for him, they need to make it a superstar amount and nothing lower would be accepted. Lakers deal could work for Irving, but if anyone wants to get Durant, they need to offer at least one all-star and then some other stuff, like role players and high valued picks just to get him. Suns could still work, but I doubt they would be willing to give young Booker, for older Durant, that would be weird.

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Quote from: agustina2 on July 14, 2022, 06:58:51 PM

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That's actually the key.

They just need to explore more with their options on what they actually have right now and that's the bench. Also, you're right, it will take time for another chemistry to be built and that could affect early games that they've got.

I'm sure that most teams would like to win their early games and it's no longer just a testing phase as it's always serious for them when it's all about those matches.

I have to agree with you both. Give Westbrook a chance since he already has experience playing with Lebron James and Anthony Davis. In fairness to him, he didn't act as a leader wherever he is playing with LBJ and AD on the floor at the same time unlike on his previous teams. He is just following Lebron as a playmaker and he's just there waiting for the play to design for him. That's a good character of him but it's just that his shooting percentage becomes worst last season.

If the Lakers will get again another Superstar level, prime or post-prime, they have to rebuild again that chemistry over and over again.

Yeah, on the last season, he didn't felt like he should act like some superstars have been doing lately.

It's better for them to try and test the current roster and I guess they've got enough and they can get a ring again with this roster. They're actually strong.

I like seeing a super team but sometimes they blow up and they're like combining just to have a negative result. Still, it works for most teams.

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Quote from: jakelyson on July 15, 2022, 03:01:11 PM

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The Suns have reportedly matched the Indiana Pacers offer sheet to DeAndre Ayton. That means Ayton is now officially a Phoenix Suns player. I think this is Phoenix going all in on a potential Durant trade. I know they don’t want Ayton in the roster so it seems clear they just put up 9 figures for a trade piece. That gives them more time to figure out a deal. The saga continues…

As I understand it, there is a no trade clause in his contract. They cannot use him now as a potential trade piece. This means that the Durant trade is dead. Correct me if I am wrong.

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Trade Restriction: This player cannot be traded until Jan 15, 2023.
https://www.spotrac.com/nba/phoenix-suns/deandre-ayton-26967

That is interesting. I wonder why they added that in there. Seems like they shot themselves in the foot a little bit. January 15th is still early enough to get him traded next season, but it's interesting that he would have to approve any trade for a year. Basically gives him all the power to decide where he wants to go. Seems like that should have been the only trade restriction in place so that they could have still used him in a Durant trade. Very strange to me that they would agree to force Ayton to start next season with the team. Seems like that isn't what anybody wanted, so I'd love to hear the justification for why it happened that way.

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Quote from: OgNasty on July 15, 2022, 02:34:38 PM

The Suns have reportedly matched the Indiana Pacers offer sheet to DeAndre Ayton. That means Ayton is now officially a Phoenix Suns player. I think this is Phoenix going all in on a potential Durant trade. I know they don’t want Ayton in the roster so it seems clear they just put up 9 figures for a trade piece. That gives them more time to figure out a deal. The saga continues…

As I understand it, there is a no trade clause in his contract. They cannot use him now as a potential trade piece. This means that the Durant trade is dead. Correct me if I am wrong.

Quote from: Yogee on July 15, 2022, 10:26:00 AM

All these trade talks for KD or Mitchell have been crazy. Perhaps it's partly the fault of the Gobert trade to the Wolves that Nets or Jazz won't settle for anything less.

One team made one bad trade deal and they think that it will set precedence. I do not think so. Not all teams are willing to put all their eggs on a single basket.

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The Suns have reportedly matched the Indiana Pacers offer sheet to DeAndre Ayton. That means Ayton is now officially a Phoenix Suns player. I think this is Phoenix going all in on a potential Durant trade. I know they don’t want Ayton in the roster so it seems clear they just put up 9 figures for a trade piece. That gives them more time to figure out a deal. The saga continues…

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on July 15, 2022, 07:13:37 AM

..... Losing both of their stars would be too heavy for Nets I'm afraid.

It depends on what they are going to get for these two players. I'm not even sure if the Nets really wanted to trade KD since they are asking too much.

All these trade talks for KD or Mitchell have been crazy. Perhaps it's partly the fault of the Gobert trade to the Wolves that Nets or Jazz won't settle for anything less.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on July 15, 2022, 07:13:37 AM

Miami Heat are very determined to trade Kevin Durant now. Durant also seems to be willing to leave Nets at the earliest opportunity now. He has been given the priority for being traded as well. Irving might have to wait for this to happen before he asks for his trade. Losing both of their stars would be too heavy for Nets I'm afraid. As a Durant fan my new favourite team are going to be the one where goes to. Grin

It is likely to be Miami Heat for now seemingly.

No matter where he goes if he doesn't get the type of support he wanted, the team he is in will gonna have a hard time catching up to the NBA playoffs and Miami Heat should really take care of bidding to get him because he hasn't been the same like how he used to be because he is now prone to injuries. The heat has some tremendous games last season and if not for the injuries, they could have instead gotten to the NBA finals. Durant should consider giving some opportunities to his teammates to create strong chemistries and to give them chance to further improve.

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on July 14, 2022, 02:39:01 PM

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https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34242899/phoenix-suns-deandre-ayton-signing-4-year-131m-maximum-contract-offer-sheet-indiana-pacers-agents-say

Pacers sign him to a max sheet. Now Suns hands are tied. Let him him go for nothing or sign him to max and not be able to use him in a Durant deal. 2 days tick tock Phoenix. Should be interesting to see what happens here.

I would say that Suns were already not interested in signing him anyway. I think it is going to be a good trading piece for Pacers. Let’s face it, some teams do not have a chance to be champions, no matter what happens they do not have that championship fabric. I do not expect Orlando, Cavs (again anyway), Suns, OKC etc etc to be champions.

There are like 15 of these teams and they are not championship material season in and season out, and they do this for over a decade, some for over two decades. This isn't just "not being champions" thing, they haven't been contenders for that long. This is why Pacers getting Ayton will not be a big deal neither, but they could trade him for some stuff at least.

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Quote from: Jating on July 15, 2022, 08:39:12 AM

There is also some noises that GSW will get Demarcus Cousins for a second time?

This is just rumors though, but what will the Warriors benefited from him? Maybe the veteran that he is, could be a good mentor for the young guys like Kuminga and Wiseman?

Anyhow, let's see how this will turn out, last season he did contribute to the Nuggets during their playoff game and even scoring 19 points in one game if I'm not mistaken.

They can do that if they want, besides, Cousins is not entitled of a big salary anymore, and his performance with the Nuggets in the playoffs was really something, he was the game changer in that series though they fall short against the Warriors.

Warriours could benefit him if he will not get injured, that's it.

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Most news is about DeAndre Ayton. The Phoenix Suns now knew how important his role is as other teams will be willing to put more money just to grab him.

Another trend is the Donovan Mitchell trade to the Knicks.
I doubt this will come to fruition as the Jazz are looking at 6 future 1st round picks and 4 players on their roster. It won't happen especially as Quickley is growing in terms of skills and experience.
On the other hand, Miami Heat is the other target. But they have not much to offer.
Good luck to the Jazz, if they really want Mitchell out they should start to lower the standards.

IMO after reading how Danny Ainge rolls his dice.

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There is also some noises that GSW will get Demarcus Cousins for a second time?

This is just rumors though, but what will the Warriors benefited from him? Maybe the veteran that he is, could be a good mentor for the young guys like Kuminga and Wiseman?

Anyhow, let's see how this will turn out, last season he did contribute to the Nuggets during their playoff game and even scoring 19 points in one game if I'm not mistaken.

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Quote from: jakelyson on July 15, 2022, 05:58:41 AM

Quote from: Kasabus on July 15, 2022, 05:49:48 AM

New coach, different style, let's see if the Lakers system will be more effective under him. It would be a big accomplishment of the coach if he could make Westbrook better because last season was probably the worst season of Russell Westbrook after winning an MVP award.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/westbru01.html

That is if Westbrook remains with the Lakers. We all know that Lebron is keen to trade away Westbrook. Even if they fail to trade him, do you think Lebron and Westbrook will still have good chemistry after they throw Westbrook under the bus?

There's no other way Westbrook will leave the Lakers but through a trade, if they don't want him, they will find a way to trade him and I'm sure there are lots of teams that will be interested in getting him as he is the Mr. Triple double, he just needs to be given the system that will make him play his game, but unfortunately, it's not going to be a championship team as he does not play good teamwork.

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