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Quote from: goinmerry on July 09, 2022, 09:30:08 AM

Now its proven that he cannot lift up his team when he's on Brooklyn and this one indicate that they don't need Durant to win another championship.

Is it really on just Durant's hand to carry and lift the Brooklyn Nets? He is averaging 29PPG last season and his other stats are good as well.

His teammates should also do their work. The overall roster of the Nets in the recent season is even worst compared to his OKC days.

Nets can't be carried by a single player, especially Durant. They need teamwork.

But regardless, since Kevin Durant already express his interest to be traded, there's no way the Nets should keep him on the roster next season. The motivation and determination are already not there to play for the team in long term. Unfortunate to see that kind of relationship. When Durant signed a 4-year extension last year, the whole Brooklyn Nets is so happy that there will be more seasons that Durant will stay on them and expected to build a legacy on that team. It was all mentioned in the media interview and now looked at what happened.

Having a franchise star like KD is one of the best thing to happen in each team inside the league, not just for the title but more on

the fan based and the potential profits each season NBA have; I don't see KD's interest in continuing his long-term relationship with the

Nets management, with that intention being traded, is enough sign that he's no longer willing to give his best. They need to let him go

and find the best prospect, not a good separation, but that's how business works.

Agreed but Nets hold the cards here. Durant is signed for 4 years they can screw him and send him to a crap franchise for a boat load of picks. Nothing really Durant can do. If I were the Nets I'd consider sending to a small aren't team who would give tons of picks and young ayers in return because they can never sign someone like Durant. That's just business too.

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Quote from: Pamadar on July 09, 2022, 02:27:29 PM

Now its proven that he cannot lift up his team when he's on Brooklyn and this one indicate that they don't need Durant to win another championship.

Is it really on just Durant's hand to carry and lift the Brooklyn Nets? He is averaging 29PPG last season and his other stats are good as well.

His teammates should also do their work. The overall roster of the Nets in the recent season is even worst compared to his OKC days.

Nets can't be carried by a single player, especially Durant. They need teamwork.

But regardless, since Kevin Durant already express his interest to be traded, there's no way the Nets should keep him on the roster next season. The motivation and determination are already not there to play for the team in long term. Unfortunate to see that kind of relationship. When Durant signed a 4-year extension last year, the whole Brooklyn Nets is so happy that there will be more seasons that Durant will stay on them and expected to build a legacy on that team. It was all mentioned in the media interview and now looked at what happened.

Having a franchise star like KD is one of the best thing to happen in each team inside the league, not just for the title but more on

the fan based and the potential profits each season NBA have; I don't see KD's interest in continuing his long-term relationship with the

Nets management, with that intention being traded, is enough sign that he's no longer willing to give his best. They need to let him go

and find the best prospect, not a good separation, but that's how business works.

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Quote from: Dart18 on July 09, 2022, 12:32:40 PM

Moses Moody.
https://www.nba.com/news/nba-2k23-summer-league-standouts-moses-moody-ultra-efficient-in-warriors-victory

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Moody produced 34 points against the Knicks and looked solid at both ends. This coming after a season of relatively limited action: like Jonathan Kuminga, once the 2022 playoffs began, he was a victim of a numbers crunch as the Warriors leaned more toward Otto Porter Jr. and Gary Payton II during their championship run.

Could be the new partner of Jordan Poole on bench production. He was not given many minutes but we saw him contribute many time especially in the outside range. They may push him to work harder so that spot of Otto Porter and Gary Payton II will be given to him.
This is nice, another name who may possibly be talked about next season. Just run the play, do it right, and everything will fall at the right spot.

An impressive stat, he and Kuminga plus a healthy Wiseman if they will continue developing and enhancing

their skills, they will surely be the next generation Warriors core. They are all young and in terms of talents they've got
all the capabilities to compete and create their own resume in this league.

It's just a matter of consistently and the way they will adopt the system that's already established within this squad,
Expecting to see them playing for more minutes together with the main core of GSW this upcoming season.

That's 4 already including Jordan Poole to be their bench core. One more player and that will complete their 2nd five.
I don't see anyone yet but perhaps it will come from the G-League again or one of their rookie drafts. They will be tested at pre-season if they could somehow fill the holes that was left by the old players on both offensive and defensive end. Moody for example is not the defensive type so enhancing that side should be focused.
Offense will come through and 36 percent at three point line is not that bad. The average is at 34.2.

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Quote from: Dart18 on July 09, 2022, 12:32:40 PM

Moses Moody.
https://www.nba.com/news/nba-2k23-summer-league-standouts-moses-moody-ultra-efficient-in-warriors-victory

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Moody produced 34 points against the Knicks and looked solid at both ends. This coming after a season of relatively limited action: like Jonathan Kuminga, once the 2022 playoffs began, he was a victim of a numbers crunch as the Warriors leaned more toward Otto Porter Jr. and Gary Payton II during their championship run.

Could be the new partner of Jordan Poole on bench production. He was not given many minutes but we saw him contribute many time especially in the outside range. They may push him to work harder so that spot of Otto Porter and Gary Payton II will be given to him.
This is nice, another name who may possibly be talked about next season. Just run the play, do it right, and everything will fall at the right spot.

An impressive stat, he and Kuminga plus a healthy Wiseman if they will continue developing and enhancing

their skills, they will surely be the next generation Warriors core. They are all young and in terms of talents they've got
all the capabilities to compete and create their own resume in this league.

It's just a matter of consistently and the way they will adopt the system that's already established within this squad,
Expecting to see them playing for more minutes together with the main core of GSW this upcoming season.

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Moses Moody.
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Moody produced 34 points against the Knicks and looked solid at both ends. This coming after a season of relatively limited action: like Jonathan Kuminga, once the 2022 playoffs began, he was a victim of a numbers crunch as the Warriors leaned more toward Otto Porter Jr. and Gary Payton II during their championship run.

Could be the new partner of Jordan Poole on bench production. He was not given many minutes but we saw him contribute many time especially in the outside range. They may push him to work harder so that spot of Otto Porter and Gary Payton II will be given to him.
This is nice, another name who may possibly be talked about next season. Just run the play, do it right, and everything will fall at the right spot.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on July 09, 2022, 03:05:10 AM

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Durant is known for leaving the team if he knew that he can’t carry it or get a great achievement on it

That's not true, he leads the Warriors in 2 straight championships and still he leaves the team. Durant will try to prove something and that is if he can carry the team, and the experiment with the Nets was a failed one and now he is looking for a new team to experiment with.

That's correct, it will be sweeter that way. Just like how Steph Curry proved it this year and that's why he is so emotional about it.
Questions and criticisms were thrown at him and he shut them all up by winning the championship.
This is also what Kevin Durant is aiming for, a championship that he can say he did on his own or most of it. It could've been the one in OKC but I bet WB will take all the credits if they did win a ring.
Kawhi Leonard also proved himself and so did Lebron. All that's left is him.

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on July 07, 2022, 05:46:18 PM

And he has been criticized as well by many basketball analyst, leaving Nets and then the Warriors winning the championship? That could really hurt Durant inside that's why he wanted to leave and find a new team to win again. But time is running out, it will be hard to find a championship caliber team in exchange of him.

Actually Durant should not be surprise that the Warriors won a championship because the Warriors are already a championship team before he joined the team. He only made the Warriors better but they are still good even without him, as Draymond said, "we don't need you", he was right.

https://nba.nbcsports.com/2018/11/16/draymond-green-reportedly-told-kevin-durant-we-dont-need-you-we-won-without-you-leave/

This is the reason why Durant join the Warriors because he know that this is already a championship caliber team and he will get more higher chances to get a ring with them compare if he stays in OKC. Now its proven that he cannot lift up his team when he's on Brooklyn and this one indicate that they don't need Durant to win another championship.

I think it's not just Durant that has been affected by the Warriors winning, obviously though he is the first one to be impacted. The whole NBA has to evolved again, imagine former players of Warriors getting good pay after just one year, maybe teams know they have the experience already. West teams like the Wolves as well, maybe thinking of getting big could offset the Warriors by getting Rudy Gobert. And I mean everyone is upgrading their roster now because the Warriors has raised the bar again, winning their 4th and definitely wanting to stop them to get their fifth. So that is the "Warriors effect".

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Baldwin is not a Kevin looney type. The kid is more a wing who can handle the ball. Was highly recruited out of high-school with tons of potential but went to a small college to follow his dad and only played in a coue games which he underperformed. Golden state was probably the best fit for him in that he can learn from the likes of a klay and Wiggins to grow into a bigger role down the line.

I am basing on the kid's height but with his style of game he can be a Klay Thompson or an Andrew Wiggins there kids had so much potential on who he can be, but I think he is also playing defense so maybe we can not really know his true potential and we could only see it when the season begins,

Quote from: jossiel on July 07, 2022, 06:07:24 PM

Well, a former GSW player, Payton II is no longer going to be part of his champ team. He'll be out of the team and will play for Portland Blazers. This is like a week old news but I've just seen it.

I thought that most of them will be retained by the management but it seems only those that had really contributed a lot. Thus, this is part of the business, letting go is a must and happens most of the time.

Gary Payton II seems happy on Portland Trailblazer here is the video clip, Gary Payton II is a great talent with stealing the ball, in their last game with the Phoenix Suns, he messes with Chris Paul by guarding him and ruining his game, Chris Paul eventually talking to the Ref, on why he hasn't called anything, but yes, Gary Payton, in my opinion, is a let go for the Golden State Warriors but things are not forever but Thank you Gary Payton II for his service for the Warriors,

While the recent game in the NBA 2013 Summer League Moses Moody got 32 PTS, 8/11 FG, and 3/5 3PT not an outstanding score like in the summer League game of Anthony Morrow that got 47 points but Moses Moody is still too good for Summer League and sadly the Warriors end up losing the game against the New York Knicks, which is still alright, but what a performance on Moody,

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Quote from: Sanitough on July 09, 2022, 08:32:21 AM

I almost forget they had a trio, are you referring to Serge Ibaka?

This guy has been a huge asset for the OKC but they could not really win a champion.
Of the big 3, only Westbrook has not won a championship.

Durant won as Warriors, while Ibaka won as Toronto Raptors.

Oklahoma City Thunder sad story. They are always stopped whenever they are almost at the finish line. Yes, it was Ibaka as the 3rd player back then.
And don't forget about Andre Roberson. He was a lot of help on that roster being one of the elite defensive guys whose always given the job to guard superstars.
Collison, Thabo Sefolosha, and more who were known for stepping up their games whenever needed. Perkins was there too. Grin

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Quote from: passwordnow on July 09, 2022, 05:58:11 AM

Yeah, he helped the Warriors for two seasons to take the ring, and then the team has proven too that they can make it even without KD.

Yes, that's one chip in the shoulder of Curry, that's why the emotions in the 6th game when they finally win the NBA trophy. Now he proves them wrong.

Yup, and it's not on his mind whether they'll have him again or not. KD really wants to get out of the Nets and he really wants to have a good trade for him. But most teams that they've offered him didn't like the deal they've offered. He's too overrated for them.

Quote from: passwordnow on July 09, 2022, 05:58:11 AM

He's like that typical guy that really wants to prove something that he can do. He's done that part for him with the help of his former teammates on GSW. Now that he seems to be f*cked up with the Nets, he has to do something to find a better team that has a chance in qualifying in the finals.

And he has been criticized as well by many basketball analyst, leaving Nets and then the Warriors winning the championship? That could really hurt Durant inside that's why he wanted to leave and find a new team to win again. But time is running out, it will be hard to find a championship caliber team in exchange of him.

And don't forget that he has taken other superstars with him and now he's about to leave, leaving Nets with that huge problem that he had made and demanded by him which was given to him.

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Quote from: Sanitough on July 09, 2022, 08:32:21 AM

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Quote from: Sanitough on July 09, 2022, 08:32:21 AM

And he has been criticized as well by many basketball analyst, leaving Nets and then the Warriors winning the championship? That could really hurt Durant inside that's why he wanted to leave and find a new team to win again. But time is running out, it will be hard to find a championship caliber team in exchange of him.

Actually Durant should not be surprise that the Warriors won a championship because the Warriors are already a championship team before he joined the team. He only made the Warriors better but they are still good even without him, as Draymond said, "we don't need you", he was right.

https://nba.nbcsports.com/2018/11/16/draymond-green-reportedly-told-kevin-durant-we-dont-need-you-we-won-without-you-leave/

This is the reason why Durant join the Warriors because he know that this is already a championship caliber team and he will get more higher chances to get a ring with them compare if he stays in OKC. Now its proven that he cannot lift up his team when he's on Brooklyn and this one indicate that they don't need Durant to win another championship.

Durant had a good season with OKC, if they only continue to build their team, they might become a championship team, but he took the shortcut, win a championship by joining a good team and leaving to prove that he does not need the Warriors, turns out he was wrong, so he cannot come back to the Warriors now. I cannot imagine what Green is thinking about him now.

That trio in OKC should have been unstoppable but Durant was kinda in high regard for his talent, when in fact they were already a championship-caliber during that time when they made it to the NBA Finals in 2012. He's just an opportunist I'd say, when he sees that GSW lacks anymore the chance to get a ring, he forms another team in BKLYN and one source tells that he demanded lot of trade for that. It's a slap to his face, I'd say.

I almost forget they had a trio, are you referring to Serge Ibaka?

This guy has been a huge asset for the OKC but they could not really win a champion.
Of the big 3, only Westbrook has not won a championship.

Durant won as Warriors, while Ibaka won as Toronto Raptors.

You should have known it, it was James Harden and he was still 22 during that time so both of them got an early experience to be in the Finals but that seems to be a rare scenario nowadays. Westbrook seems to be too concern for his personal stats compare to what he can give to the team.

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Quote from: Sanitough on July 09, 2022, 07:39:19 AM

And he has been criticized as well by many basketball analyst, leaving Nets and then the Warriors winning the championship? That could really hurt Durant inside that's why he wanted to leave and find a new team to win again. But time is running out, it will be hard to find a championship caliber team in exchange of him.

Actually Durant should not be surprise that the Warriors won a championship because the Warriors are already a championship team before he joined the team. He only made the Warriors better but they are still good even without him, as Draymond said, "we don't need you", he was right.

https://nba.nbcsports.com/2018/11/16/draymond-green-reportedly-told-kevin-durant-we-dont-need-you-we-won-without-you-leave/

This is the reason why Durant join the Warriors because he know that this is already a championship caliber team and he will get more higher chances to get a ring with them compare if he stays in OKC. Now its proven that he cannot lift up his team when he's on Brooklyn and this one indicate that they don't need Durant to win another championship.

Durant had a good season with OKC, if they only continue to build their team, they might become a championship team, but he took the shortcut, win a championship by joining a good team and leaving to prove that he does not need the Warriors, turns out he was wrong, so he cannot come back to the Warriors now. I cannot imagine what Green is thinking about him now.

That trio in OKC should have been unstoppable but Durant was kinda in high regard for his talent, when in fact they were already a championship-caliber during that time when they made it to the NBA Finals in 2012. He's just an opportunist I'd say, when he sees that GSW lacks anymore the chance to get a ring, he forms another team in BKLYN and one source tells that he demanded lot of trade for that. It's a slap to his face, I'd say.

I almost forget they had a trio, are you referring to Serge Ibaka?

This guy has been a huge asset for the OKC but they could not really win a champion.
Of the big 3, only Westbrook has not won a championship.

Durant won as Warriors, while Ibaka won as Toronto Raptors.

Durant made the right decision moving out of OKC. I do not think he will win a ring in there. OKC is very good in acquiring great talents but not so much in winning the title. There is a point when OKC have Durant, Harden, Westbrook and Ibaka in their line up and still fell short of winning the championship. That line up is overflowing with skills and talent and still nothing to show for it.

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Quote from: rhomelmabini on July 09, 2022, 08:11:14 AM

Now its proven that he cannot lift up his team when he's on Brooklyn and this one indicate that they don't need Durant to win another championship.

Is it really on just Durant's hand to carry and lift the Brooklyn Nets? He is averaging 29PPG last season and his other stats are good as well.

His teammates should also do their work. The overall roster of the Nets in the recent season is even worst compared to his OKC days.

Nets can't be carried by a single player, especially Durant. They need teamwork.

But regardless, since Kevin Durant already express his interest to be traded, there's no way the Nets should keep him on the roster next season. The motivation and determination are already not there to play for the team in long term. Unfortunate to see that kind of relationship. When Durant signed a 4-year extension last year, the whole Brooklyn Nets is so happy that there will be more seasons that Durant will stay on them and expected to build a legacy on that team. It was all mentioned in the media interview and now looked at what happened.

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Quote from: Sanitough on July 09, 2022, 07:39:19 AM

Quote from: Sanitough on July 09, 2022, 07:39:19 AM

And he has been criticized as well by many basketball analyst, leaving Nets and then the Warriors winning the championship? That could really hurt Durant inside that's why he wanted to leave and find a new team to win again. But time is running out, it will be hard to find a championship caliber team in exchange of him.

Actually Durant should not be surprise that the Warriors won a championship because the Warriors are already a championship team before he joined the team. He only made the Warriors better but they are still good even without him, as Draymond said, "we don't need you", he was right.

https://nba.nbcsports.com/2018/11/16/draymond-green-reportedly-told-kevin-durant-we-dont-need-you-we-won-without-you-leave/

This is the reason why Durant join the Warriors because he know that this is already a championship caliber team and he will get more higher chances to get a ring with them compare if he stays in OKC. Now its proven that he cannot lift up his team when he's on Brooklyn and this one indicate that they don't need Durant to win another championship.

Durant had a good season with OKC, if they only continue to build their team, they might become a championship team, but he took the shortcut, win a championship by joining a good team and leaving to prove that he does not need the Warriors, turns out he was wrong, so he cannot come back to the Warriors now. I cannot imagine what Green is thinking about him now.

That trio in OKC should have been unstoppable but Durant was kinda in high regard for his talent, when in fact they were already a championship-caliber during that time when they made it to the NBA Finals in 2012. He's just an opportunist I'd say, when he sees that GSW lacks anymore the chance to get a ring, he forms another team in BKLYN and one source tells that he demanded lot of trade for that. It's a slap to his face, I'd say.

I almost forget they had a trio, are you referring to Serge Ibaka?

This guy has been a huge asset for the OKC but they could not really win a champion.
Of the big 3, only Westbrook has not won a championship.

Durant won as Warriors, while Ibaka won as Toronto Raptors.

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Quote from: Sanitough on July 09, 2022, 07:39:19 AM

And he has been criticized as well by many basketball analyst, leaving Nets and then the Warriors winning the championship? That could really hurt Durant inside that's why he wanted to leave and find a new team to win again. But time is running out, it will be hard to find a championship caliber team in exchange of him.

Actually Durant should not be surprise that the Warriors won a championship because the Warriors are already a championship team before he joined the team. He only made the Warriors better but they are still good even without him, as Draymond said, "we don't need you", he was right.

https://nba.nbcsports.com/2018/11/16/draymond-green-reportedly-told-kevin-durant-we-dont-need-you-we-won-without-you-leave/

This is the reason why Durant join the Warriors because he know that this is already a championship caliber team and he will get more higher chances to get a ring with them compare if he stays in OKC. Now its proven that he cannot lift up his team when he's on Brooklyn and this one indicate that they don't need Durant to win another championship.

Durant had a good season with OKC, if they only continue to build their team, they might become a championship team, but he took the shortcut, win a championship by joining a good team and leaving to prove that he does not need the Warriors, turns out he was wrong, so he cannot come back to the Warriors now. I cannot imagine what Green is thinking about him now.

That trio in OKC should have been unstoppable but Durant was kinda in high regard for his talent, when in fact they were already a championship-caliber during that time when they made it to the NBA Finals in 2012. He's just an opportunist I'd say, when he sees that GSW lacks anymore the chance to get a ring, he forms another team in BKLYN and one source tells that he demanded lot of trade for that. It's a slap to his face, I'd say.

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And he has been criticized as well by many basketball analyst, leaving Nets and then the Warriors winning the championship? That could really hurt Durant inside that's why he wanted to leave and find a new team to win again. But time is running out, it will be hard to find a championship caliber team in exchange of him.

Actually Durant should not be surprise that the Warriors won a championship because the Warriors are already a championship team before he joined the team. He only made the Warriors better but they are still good even without him, as Draymond said, "we don't need you", he was right.

https://nba.nbcsports.com/2018/11/16/draymond-green-reportedly-told-kevin-durant-we-dont-need-you-we-won-without-you-leave/

This is the reason why Durant join the Warriors because he know that this is already a championship caliber team and he will get more higher chances to get a ring with them compare if he stays in OKC. Now its proven that he cannot lift up his team when he's on Brooklyn and this one indicate that they don't need Durant to win another championship.

Durant had a good season with OKC, if they only continue to build their team, they might become a championship team, but he took the shortcut, win a championship by joining a good team and leaving to prove that he does not need the Warriors, turns out he was wrong, so he cannot come back to the Warriors now. I cannot imagine what Green is thinking about him now.

Green has to be so happy, especially that they won a championship without him.

He was correct, they don't need Durant, and actually, the Warriors are fun to watch without Durant as they are not unbeatable, we see that they have struggled but in the end, they were able to conquer everything and win the championship.

Curry is probably better than Durant, who would agree with that?

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And he has been criticized as well by many basketball analyst, leaving Nets and then the Warriors winning the championship? That could really hurt Durant inside that's why he wanted to leave and find a new team to win again. But time is running out, it will be hard to find a championship caliber team in exchange of him.

Actually Durant should not be surprise that the Warriors won a championship because the Warriors are already a championship team before he joined the team. He only made the Warriors better but they are still good even without him, as Draymond said, "we don't need you", he was right.

https://nba.nbcsports.com/2018/11/16/draymond-green-reportedly-told-kevin-durant-we-dont-need-you-we-won-without-you-leave/

This is the reason why Durant join the Warriors because he know that this is already a championship caliber team and he will get more higher chances to get a ring with them compare if he stays in OKC. Now its proven that he cannot lift up his team when he's on Brooklyn and this one indicate that they don't need Durant to win another championship.

Durant had a good season with OKC, if they only continue to build their team, they might become a championship team, but he took the shortcut, win a championship by joining a good team and leaving to prove that he does not need the Warriors, turns out he was wrong, so he cannot come back to the Warriors now. I cannot imagine what Green is thinking about him now.

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