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Quote from: Ziskinberg on July 09, 2022, 01:52:46 AM

Quote from: danherbias07 on July 09, 2022, 01:47:37 AM

Durant requesting a trade is proof of it, because I doubt it's management.

Durant does not see any reason for him to stay with the Nets, the team has been dismantled by the Celtics in the 1st round, so they have lost their morale and other teams may just not respect them. Let him move and move until he can finally find a team that he would stay until he retires, Durant is an MVP, any team he will play with will become better as long as he is happily playing.

Durant is known for leaving the team if he knew that he can’t carry it or get a great achievement on it. He leaved Oklahoma before even if they have a good run and strong team after being almost sweep by Heat that time. And now he is leaving again Nets because he can’t do a thing with this team. He is like Lebron which always want to be on a team that surrounds him with strong player while he is on the center. A lot of will surely wants him to be on there team but I doubt he can have a team like GSW before that has a very impressive long ditance shot while leave him on the inside attack.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on July 09, 2022, 01:47:37 AM

Durant requesting a trade is proof of it, because I doubt it's management.

Durant does not see any reason for him to stay with the Nets, the team has been dismantled by the Celtics in the 1st round, so they have lost their morale and other teams may just not respect them. Let him move and move until he can finally find a team that he would stay until he retires, Durant is an MVP, any team he will play with will become better as long as he is happily playing.

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Quote from: OgNasty on July 09, 2022, 12:25:18 AM

I can see why the Nets would both want to trade him immediately and to wait. If they wait, it gives them more time to try and find the best deal. It also gives them less time with their new players to fit into their team. With Ben Simmons already new, and their 2 stars likely leaving, you'd think they would want all the time they could get to figure out how they're going to make the new roster work. I think bluffing that they'll keep KD and Kyrie might land them a better deal and that's why they're waiting. It could also backfire pretty big.

It could. It's not patience, it's becoming more of greed. They expect something in return that is almost as valuable as Durant, that's not easy to find.
Those types of players are already secured by other teams with full contracts to avoid them from leaving.
KD could've stayed as a Nets. Why is it that whatever team Kyrie goes on, suddenly a locker room problem will happen? I really thought something changed when I listen to him in recent interviews. Maybe not.
Durant requesting a trade is proof of it, because I doubt it's management.

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Quote from: Japinat on July 08, 2022, 11:18:23 PM

Quote from: Harkorede on July 08, 2022, 10:51:14 PM

So, Imho It's very unlikely that KD will be traded in the summer league.

Agree with that, KD will remain as Nets, unless he will ask for a trade and would not play until he gets traded. Irving will likely get traded as that has been his trademark already, and in the first season he will show up, the next season he will struggle, the kind of superstar he is.

I can see why the Nets would both want to trade him immediately and to wait. If they wait, it gives them more time to try and find the best deal. It also gives them less time with their new players to fit into their team. With Ben Simmons already new, and their 2 stars likely leaving, you'd think they would want all the time they could get to figure out how they're going to make the new roster work. I think bluffing that they'll keep KD and Kyrie might land them a better deal and that's why they're waiting. It could also backfire pretty big.

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Quote from: Harkorede on July 08, 2022, 10:51:14 PM

So, Imho It's very unlikely that KD will be traded in the summer league.

Agree with that, KD will remain as Nets, unless he will ask for a trade and would not play until he gets traded. Irving will likely get traded as that has been his trademark already, and in the first season he will show up, the next season he will struggle, the kind of superstar he is.

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Quote from: agustina2 on July 08, 2022, 06:59:15 PM

Quote from: blockman on July 08, 2022, 05:54:20 PM

It's actually fun and always basketball pages and news articles are all over him. But there's no team that wants to take the deal for him. I don't know if it's a meme already that they're posting but certainly, it's really fun to watch. The most recent post that I've read is what you've mentioned about Phoenix.
They should really just give it and the Nets are really eager for his request since it's like that he's just brought mess to the team with entire stay.

When Kevin Durant ask to be traded, his preferred destination was the Phoenix Suns and Miami Heat.

Either of those teams doesn't show any interest yet but even if they like to sign Durant, will the Brooklyn Nets will be satisfied with the trade offer?

Brooklyn Nets gambled for Kevin Durant hardly and if the time comes that they will trade him, they will surely like to get a good trade offer in return and not just in exchange for role players and future draft picks.

It will be a loss for the Suns and Heat to give up their several key players just to get Kevin Durant.

If any team are likely to sign Durant, it would be Lakers imo, The Suns and Heat would be given way too up for the trade and It's going to mess a lot with their roster, both the Heat and Phoenix Suns already a championship worthy team and all they need is just a few more tweaks/changes, but going for KD would have them more vulnerable in several positions because the Nets would only be trading KD if they're sure to get the best deal possible for him. So, Imho It's very unlikely that KD will be traded in the summer league.

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Quote from: agustina2 on July 08, 2022, 06:59:15 PM

Quote from: blockman on July 08, 2022, 05:54:20 PM

It's actually fun and always basketball pages and news articles are all over him. But there's no team that wants to take the deal for him. I don't know if it's a meme already that they're posting but certainly, it's really fun to watch. The most recent post that I've read is what you've mentioned about Phoenix.
They should really just give it and the Nets are really eager for his request since it's like that he's just brought mess to the team with entire stay.

When Kevin Durant ask to be traded, his preferred destination was the Phoenix Suns and Miami Heat.

Either of those teams doesn't show any interest yet but even if they like to sign Durant, will the Brooklyn Nets will be satisfied with the trade offer?

Brooklyn Nets gambled for Kevin Durant hardly and if the time comes that they will trade him, they will surely like to get a good trade offer in return and not just in exchange for role players and future draft picks.

It will be a loss for the Suns and Heat to give up their several key players just to get Kevin Durant.

His preferred teams are the Heat and the Suns but like you said, either one of them are showing interest in getting him.
I don't think that either of these 2 teams are willing to trade their all-star players just to get Kevin Durant. They are younger and talented as well. Either of these 2 can't trade at least 2 of their all-star player just to get KD.

Yes it is KD and we know how good he is and he might be a future HOF but he is 34 years old already. He might dominate the league more for at least 2 seasons before leaving his prime compare to the key players of both Heat and Suns who is obviously younger than him. Right now, the Nets are having a hard time getting a good package deal for KD to the point that even the Wolves rejected their offer. Many are waiting on where KD will land or if he will be traded and we aren't speaking about Kyrie Irving Cheesy

. Is there any news regarding Kyrie or are the Lakers really pursuing him?

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Quote from: dwyane36 on July 08, 2022, 07:23:58 PM

Quote from: stadus on July 08, 2022, 03:03:57 PM

They should just invest in younger stars that could be a potential asset to the team in the few years to come while LeBron James is there to teach the younger generations because 2 to 3 years from now, LBJ will eventually retire and leave the team.

The Lakers would probably prefer to sign more experienced players than young ones during this offseason. At least it seems to me the Lakers' management will rebuild the team and invest in younger players only after LeBron's retirement. However, it should be noted that LeBron averaged 30.3 points per game last season, and it's a phenomenal result for a 37-year-old player. So it doesn't look like he has plans to slow down and retire in the next few years.

They are not known though to invest on young players after Kobe left, and I would say that it's a successful experiment because once they got Lebron, they won a ring. It's just unfortunate after that, Lebron himself got injured and then the other players too like AD. And then the newly acquired veterans in Russ and Melo wasn't producing and so is their young players like THT. So it will still be Lebron as their franchise player for sometime and then him surrounding with other star and role players.

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Quote from: stadus on July 08, 2022, 03:03:57 PM

They should just invest in younger stars that could be a potential asset to the team in the few years to come while LeBron James is there to teach the younger generations because 2 to 3 years from now, LBJ will eventually retire and leave the team.

The Lakers would probably prefer to sign more experienced players than young ones during this offseason. At least it seems to me the Lakers' management will rebuild the team and invest in younger players only after LeBron's retirement. However, it should be noted that LeBron averaged 30.3 points per game last season, and it's a phenomenal result for a 37-year-old player. So it doesn't look like he has plans to slow down and retire in the next few years.

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Quote from: niceli on July 08, 2022, 06:49:37 PM

It is a huge shock to whole world that Suns went as further as they did with such management. I mean they are literally fighting for the worst ownership right up there with Knicks. Glad that at least players are not affected by it while playing, they try to forget that they have a horrible owner, and just go out there and play. Ayton will be much better off if he keeps going that way, this will allow him to play for a team that actually means something, and that is why I am not shocked about him not wanting to go back anyway. Booker will be gone eventually too, would be hard to leave that much money on the table, but he will surely leave eventually.

I'm not sure if the Suns management are one of the worst, they were able to bring a championship team and coach caliber, they just fell short against the Bucks and then top the West last season, but eventually lost it to Luka. So I think the Suns management did a good job, but there might be some key pieces that need to find and fit together a championship team. Ayton is already in talks, or maybe Bridges, but the rest seems to be in one goal still. CP3 and Booker wanted to have their 1st ring and so is the other.

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Quote from: blockman on July 08, 2022, 05:54:20 PM

It's actually fun and always basketball pages and news articles are all over him. But there's no team that wants to take the deal for him. I don't know if it's a meme already that they're posting but certainly, it's really fun to watch. The most recent post that I've read is what you've mentioned about Phoenix.
They should really just give it and the Nets are really eager for his request since it's like that he's just brought mess to the team with entire stay.

When Kevin Durant ask to be traded, his preferred destination was the Phoenix Suns and Miami Heat.

Either of those teams doesn't show any interest yet but even if they like to sign Durant, will the Brooklyn Nets will be satisfied with the trade offer?

Brooklyn Nets gambled for Kevin Durant hardly and if the time comes that they will trade him, they will surely like to get a good trade offer in return and not just in exchange for role players and future draft picks.

It will be a loss for the Suns and Heat to give up their several key players just to get Kevin Durant.

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It is a huge shock to whole world that Suns went as further as they did with such management. I mean they are literally fighting for the worst ownership right up there with Knicks. Glad that at least players are not affected by it while playing, they try to forget that they have a horrible owner, and just go out there and play. Ayton will be much better off if he keeps going that way, this will allow him to play for a team that actually means something, and that is why I am not shocked about him not wanting to go back anyway. Booker will be gone eventually too, would be hard to leave that much money on the table, but he will surely leave eventually.

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Quote from: OgNasty on July 08, 2022, 05:26:41 PM

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There is a rumor that Pacers are interested on the services of DeAndre Ayton. They are negotiating a sign and trade centered on Miles Turner.

However, we have heard that Phoenix is also interested on KD. If they push this one, they might be erasing their chances to land the KD sweepstakes. Or it might take more players from them, maybe they will have to include Booker now or Crowder and Bridges.

That would be a terrible move for Phoenix. Turner is decent but not on the level of Ayton. If Durant is on the table then yep aytun should be on the move but I'd be highly surprised if Phoenix would ever make this move.

Don't put anything past the horrible management of the Suns. It's clear that Ayton ruffled some feathers with management and they don't feel like they can resolve their differences. Either Ayton goes, or they find a new head coach. They seem to be choosing to let Ayton, maybe their best prospect ever, leave them for whatever they can get. I'm sure they'll regret this move eventually, even if they do get Durant. Sad. If it were me, I'd be saying goodbye to Monty Williams and begging Ayton to stick around. That's with no knowledge of what Ayton is like in the locker room, but it seemed to me like Booker was a bit jealous of Ayton and holding him back a bit. Will be interesting to see how Durant destroys the team chemistry next year as he forces Booker out of the limelight.

It will not be a replacement that's for sure, Ayton is more agile, but I guess it was more on the mental side of basketball for Ayton. I know @OgNasty is a big fan of Phoenix and Ayton, but at least he knows that it is time for his boy to let go of the management.

It might not be exactly Turner, but for sure the Suns are shopping him and will trade Ayton in a heartbelt. I don't think that it's Monty Williams fault, but we can see in their series against Dallas that he has to pep talk Ayton and you can see Ayton's body language.

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Quote from: Reid on July 08, 2022, 12:05:32 AM

Quote from: jossiel on July 07, 2022, 06:07:24 PM

Well, a former GSW player, Payton II is no longer going to be part of his champ team. He'll be out of the team and will play for Portland Blazers. This is like a week old news but I've just seen it.

I thought that most of them will be retained by the management but it seems only those that had really contributed a lot. Thus, this is part of the business, letting go is a must and happens most of the time.

It's a sad separation but this is all for them. Now, they will have better salary in different teams and all they have to do is keep up what they are doing in their newly found family. JTA and Otto Porter Jr. also signed in a different team.
It will happen eventually and I have seen the Warriors team discover new talents in their roster, I bet they will do it again. Some name who is not a known will shine again whenever they need it.

I also saw the news about Otto.

And that's part of their growth to have a better salary and they can't be retained by the management.

It's sad but also happy that they'll get a better contract although with a new team and stack of the roster.

They'll be forever grateful that they've been part of the Dub nation that have honed them and also they've helped to reach its goal last season.

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on July 08, 2022, 05:19:19 PM

That would be a terrible move for Phoenix. Turner is decent but not on the level of Ayton. If Durant is on the table then yep aytun should be on the move but I'd be highly surprised if Phoenix would ever make this move.

Not a terrible move for me as it's clear that there's an ongoing "concern" between Phoenix Suns and DeAndre Ayton.

If Durant signing on the Suns isn't possible or can't work around, they can release Ayton on other teams as long as it is a fair trade. Suns can also use some extra cap to acquire other players if that Pacers trade will happen. I'm sure Ayton will be in a different jersey next season. The Suns' fans might get disappointed but that was a good move by both Ayton and the Phoenix Suns.

Even the KD signing is much more hyped, their fans should not expect that.

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Quote from: OgNasty on July 08, 2022, 05:13:26 PM

It's fun to have drama in the NBA, but I'm starting to grow tired of all the Durant talk. Maybe just because I want to see him play live in Phoenix next year (I've never seen Durant in person) but also because I'm sick of reading about it. Just get KD to the Suns and Kyrie to the Lakers so we can move on to talking about what a failed experiment Brooklyn was. Durant tried to prove he would win without Curry and failed, while Curry's team won it all. Kyrie tried to prove he was better than the Celtics and the Celtics made it to the Finals without him. Now we're going to change the narrative to KD not being able to win a ring without joining a stacked team and Kyrie can't win without LeBron. Shocked that either would take these routes and further degrade their legacy, but winning must be a hell of a drug.

It's actually fun and always basketball pages and news articles are all over him. But there's no team that wants to take the deal for him. I don't know if it's a meme already that they're posting but certainly, it's really fun to watch. The most recent post that I've read is what you've mentioned about Phoenix.
They should really just give it and the Nets are really eager for his request since it's like that he's just brought mess to the team with entire stay.

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on July 08, 2022, 05:19:19 PM

Quote from: Baofeng on July 07, 2022, 06:40:26 PM

There is a rumor that Pacers are interested on the services of DeAndre Ayton. They are negotiating a sign and trade centered on Miles Turner.

However, we have heard that Phoenix is also interested on KD. If they push this one, they might be erasing their chances to land the KD sweepstakes. Or it might take more players from them, maybe they will have to include Booker now or Crowder and Bridges.

That would be a terrible move for Phoenix. Turner is decent but not on the level of Ayton. If Durant is on the table then yep aytun should be on the move but I'd be highly surprised if Phoenix would ever make this move.

Don't put anything past the horrible management of the Suns. It's clear that Ayton ruffled some feathers with management and they don't feel like they can resolve their differences. Either Ayton goes, or they find a new head coach. They seem to be choosing to let Ayton, maybe their best prospect ever, leave them for whatever they can get. I'm sure they'll regret this move eventually, even if they do get Durant. Sad. If it were me, I'd be saying goodbye to Monty Williams and begging Ayton to stick around. That's with no knowledge of what Ayton is like in the locker room, but it seemed to me like Booker was a bit jealous of Ayton and holding him back a bit. Will be interesting to see how Durant destroys the team chemistry next year as he forces Booker out of the limelight.

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Quote from: Baofeng on July 07, 2022, 06:40:26 PM

There is a rumor that Pacers are interested on the services of DeAndre Ayton. They are negotiating a sign and trade centered on Miles Turner.

However, we have heard that Phoenix is also interested on KD. If they push this one, they might be erasing their chances to land the KD sweepstakes. Or it might take more players from them, maybe they will have to include Booker now or Crowder and Bridges.

That would be a terrible move for Phoenix. Turner is decent but not on the level of Ayton. If Durant is on the table then yep aytun should be on the move but I'd be highly surprised if Phoenix would ever make this move.

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Funny that the Nets demanded basically the entire Dever Nuggets roster for KD. They politely declined. I think they would have declined the trade even without one of the big names being included...

It's fun to have drama in the NBA, but I'm starting to grow tired of all the Durant talk. Maybe just because I want to see him play live in Phoenix next year (I've never seen Durant in person) but also because I'm sick of reading about it. Just get KD to the Suns and Kyrie to the Lakers so we can move on to talking about what a failed experiment Brooklyn was. Durant tried to prove he would win without Curry and failed, while Curry's team won it all. Kyrie tried to prove he was better than the Celtics and the Celtics made it to the Finals without him. Now we're going to change the narrative to KD not being able to win a ring without joining a stacked team and Kyrie can't win without LeBron. Shocked that either would take these routes and further degrade their legacy, but winning must be a hell of a drug.

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Quote from: stadus on July 08, 2022, 03:03:57 PM

They should just invest in younger stars that could be a potential asset to the team in the few years to come while LeBron James is there to teach the younger generations because 2 to 3 years from now, LBJ will eventually retire and leave the team.

They already did. Count the seasons where they surround Kobe with young stars until retirement. They let these young guys control the Lakers after Kobe's retirement and still what happened? Totally a failed investment and guess what, they only made the playoffs when Lebron James came to them.

Because that's what happened, the Lakers shift strategy by involving big names on their roster as the young lineup didn't work for several seasons.

The Lakers are not building a super team but if those big names show interest in playing with the team, why should they hesitate to work on that?

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