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Quote from: Pamadar on July 07, 2022, 01:53:32 PM

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Last season, he only played 17 games (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/porzikr01.html), which would not help a team succeed. IIRC, Wizards had some good start last season but when injuries hit them, they go down in standing until they are now anymore in the top 10. I think they should get rid of him and surround Beal with healthy players, that way they'll be able to see a positive production for Beal and the team in the coming new season.

Maybe yes or try to give him that equal chance and see, by the way trades will happen if they don't see any improvement

and if they see that the value of the asset that they acquire is not worth and not really helping Beal, there are always options
for Wizard since there's still a team that might be interested in KP,

We never know how the upcoming season will be for this team. If they improve, then it's good, but if not, then another
experiment needs to be worked out to surround Beal leading the team.

The Beal contract is horrendous. Let's be honest, he's 29 years old, probably peaked, and hasn't won a thing. Giving him a quarter of a billion dollars seems insane. Especially considering it has a no trade clause. The Wizards are certain to be fighting to make the playoffs for the next half a decade as a result. Too bad they didn't keep John Wall, they could have the 2 worst contracts in the NBA on their team. I like Beal. He's a solid player and on a team like the Warriors he could have played the Wiggins role. Compared to similar players though, he's worth about 30 million a year. Giving him 50 per is basically admitting that nobody wants to play for your sorry franchise so you have to lock down an above average player at top dollar.

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Quote from: Vaculin on July 07, 2022, 08:40:23 AM

Last season, he only played 17 games (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/porzikr01.html), which would not help a team succeed. IIRC, Wizards had some good start last season but when injuries hit them, they go down in standing until they are now anymore in the top 10. I think they should get rid of him and surround Beal with healthy players, that way they'll be able to see a positive production for Beal and the team in the coming new season.

Maybe yes or try to give him that equal chance and see, by the way trades will happen if they don't see any improvement

and if they see that the value of the asset that they acquire is not worth and not really helping Beal, there are always options
for Wizard since there's still a team that might be interested in KP,

We never know how the upcoming season will be for this team. If they improve, then it's good, but if not, then another
experiment needs to be worked out to surround Beal leading the team.

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LaMarcus Aldridge, Brooklyn Nets, unrestricted
Carmelo Anthony, Los Angeles Lakers, unrestricted
Deandre Ayton, Phoenix Suns, restricted
James Harden, Philadelphia 76ers, unrestricted
Montrezl Harrell, Charlotte Hornets, unrestricted
Dennis Schroder, Houston Rockets, unrestricted
Collin Sexton, Cleveland Cavaliers, restricted

Harden will surely be a 76ers. Schroder was said to be kept by the Rockets. Of all, the most discussed was Ayton because that big guy has done so much for the Suns and I am expecting him to sign him back.
Then, there's Miles Bridges but he ran into some problems.

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the list does not include Charlotte’s Miles Bridges, who was reportedly arrested for domestic violence on the eve of free agency

One more I want to see is DeMarcus Cousins. Denver Nuggets should sign him again because he is getting better and the traces of the old Cousins were seen during the last playoffs when they are trying to give Jokic a breather.

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Quote from: Sanitough on July 07, 2022, 07:16:09 AM

Here's the salary of the Wizards roster.

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/washington-wizards/cap/

Porzingis is next to Beal with $33 million by next season, and I don't think the Wizards will try to trade him but I'm sure there's still some place to add role players that will make the roster of the Wizards deep.

Yeah, we forget about KP, he did have some good games when he was traded to the Washington and hopefully he can still contribute big. It's that that he is also injury prone and in Dallas he was just a shell of his old self.

But let's see how KP will do next season, a lot is expected on his shoulder and maybe adding a good players won't hurt their salary cap.

That's the problem with KP. His injuries keep him away most of the time, but just like what you said, he got good run

after the trade, his trade materialized from both ends. Maybe he needs some motivation and not just play to earn mentality
but to play and help the team in winning games.

They need to additional players to make this team more competitive, if they can sign another quality player and they
will play together with a healthy squad. The chance is better for Wizard this upcoming season.

Last season, he only played 17 games (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/porzikr01.html), which would not help a team succeed. IIRC, Wizards had some good start last season but when injuries hit them, they go down in standing until they are now anymore in the top 10. I think they should get rid of him and surround Beal with healthy players, that way they'll be able to see a positive production for Beal and the team in the coming new season.

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Quote from: Jating on July 07, 2022, 08:10:52 AM

Quote from: Sanitough on July 07, 2022, 07:16:09 AM

Here's the salary of the Wizards roster.

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/washington-wizards/cap/

Porzingis is next to Beal with $33 million by next season, and I don't think the Wizards will try to trade him but I'm sure there's still some place to add role players that will make the roster of the Wizards deep.

Yeah, we forget about KP, he did have some good games when he was traded to the Washington and hopefully he can still contribute big. It's that that he is also injury prone and in Dallas he was just a shell of his old self.

But let's see how KP will do next season, a lot is expected on his shoulder and maybe adding a good players won't hurt their salary cap.

That's the problem with KP. His injuries keep him away most of the time, but just like what you said, he got good run

after the trade, his trade materialized from both ends. Maybe he needs some motivation and not just play to earn mentality
but to play and help the team in winning games.

They need to additional players to make this team more competitive, if they can sign another quality player and they
will play together with a healthy squad. The chance is better for Wizard this upcoming season.

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Quote from: Sanitough on July 07, 2022, 07:16:09 AM

Here's the salary of the Wizards roster.

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/washington-wizards/cap/

Porzingis is next to Beal with $33 million by next season, and I don't think the Wizards will try to trade him but I'm sure there's still some place to add role players that will make the roster of the Wizards deep.

Yeah, we forget about KP, he did have some good games when he was traded to the Washington and hopefully he can still contribute big. It's that that he is also injury prone and in Dallas he was just a shell of his old self.

But let's see how KP will do next season, a lot is expected on his shoulder and maybe adding a good players won't hurt their salary cap.

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Quote from: Kasabus on July 07, 2022, 07:29:08 AM

Quote from: Sanitough on July 07, 2022, 07:16:09 AM

Here's the salary of the Wizards roster.

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/washington-wizards/cap/

Porzingis is next to Beal with $33 million by next season, and I don't think the Wizards will try to trade him but I'm sure there's still some place to add role players that will make the roster of the Wizards deep.

Porzingis has good stats but if you look at his impact in the actual game, it's not that much that's why Dallas let him go. Now, that he was out in Dallas, they became a better team and they beat the Suns IIRC in the playoffs who is the favorite to win the NBA championship. I think they should also try to trade Porzingis for a younger and a healthy player/s.

That cannot be denied, since he was injured, he is not the same aggressive Porzingis again and that's the reason why Dallas traded him. Beal needs someone who can consistently play with him and are not afraid to get injured so he can give his best every game. The Wall and Beal tandem was actually good but when Wall got injured and missed a season, things changed and the management decided to trade him for Westbrook who was also traded afterward.

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Quote from: Sanitough on July 07, 2022, 07:16:09 AM

Here's the salary of the Wizards roster.

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/washington-wizards/cap/

Porzingis is next to Beal with $33 million by next season, and I don't think the Wizards will try to trade him but I'm sure there's still some place to add role players that will make the roster of the Wizards deep.

Porzingis has good stats but if you look at his impact in the actual game, it's not that much that's why Dallas let him go. Now, that he was out in Dallas, they became a better team and they beat the Suns IIRC in the playoffs who is the favorite to win the NBA championship. I think they should also try to trade Porzingis for a younger and a healthy player/s.

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Quote from: vennali on July 07, 2022, 01:10:31 AM

Bradley Beal has negotiated in a 251 million 5 year deal and has a no trade clause in the contract. He is the only player in the league who has a true no trade clause in the contract. Beal is very very lucky to have earned a contract like that to be honest. From my point of view. Its definitely not worth it for the organisation. Beal is a good player but I don't consider him a superstar to be earning such contracts.

Wow, these players are still getting good contract even though they don't make any good thing for their teams. This isn't for Bradley Beal only but for other players that doesn't make any impact on their respective team, it's like they're just milking the organization.

Beal has been playing like a superstar, unfortunately, he is the only superstar left on his team that's why the Wizards are struggling now. When Wall and Beal was still playing together, the team reached in the playoffs and they are very competitive although they have not reach in the NBA Finals.

About the salary, I think he deserve that.

Bradley Beal Average point per game during 2021-2022 season was 23.2pts which is already high and worthy to have a super star salary but what I don’t understand about Washington is why they give so much salary for a 5 year contract which is already sufficient to acquire more players with good skills that will help Beal. Washington management is surely all in investment on Beal since they lock him in for 5 years without any assurance that they can get a better result on the upcoming season. I really think they need to acquire more young talents and develop by themselves if they really want to focus the play around Beal.

That's what I thought too, maybe they are still believing that Beal will be bringing good thing for the team. His experience though is good but we may never know with the addition of Porzingis if that's what they are expecting to get better this incoming season.

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Here's the salary of the Wizards roster.

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/washington-wizards/cap/

Porzingis is next to Beal with $33 million by next season, and I don't think the Wizards will try to trade him but I'm sure there's still some place to add role players that will make the roster of the Wizards deep.

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Quote from: vennali on July 07, 2022, 01:10:31 AM

Bradley Beal has negotiated in a 251 million 5 year deal and has a no trade clause in the contract. He is the only player in the league who has a true no trade clause in the contract. Beal is very very lucky to have earned a contract like that to be honest. From my point of view. Its definitely not worth it for the organisation. Beal is a good player but I don't consider him a superstar to be earning such contracts.

Well! NBA players nowadays really make money with their good play and popularity and just like that, they earned millions of dollars. that's why teams are really paying them well considering they might not get anything from them because injuries are their enemy. look at Williamson, he does his best in his first season debut and everybody was hoping to see him playing well and to be one of the strong players that can bring his team to the championship he even got his personalized shoes by Nike but injury got him good which made him hibernate in the NBA last season.

He was the number 1 overall pick for a reason, no season that he finished but his stats are really good, and since he is still young, I understand that his team gambled a lot by signing him the max contract.

With his numbers, Max contract for me is the best offer Wizard can do to secure him. They just need additional star or a good number of role

Players to support him in their campaign reach a playoff. So far the new players from Lakers are helping.

They just need to establish chemistries and good ball movement, With Porzingis and Kuzma if blend well they have a good chance

to achieve better from what they have last season.

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Quote from: vennali on July 07, 2022, 01:10:31 AM

Bradley Beal has negotiated in a 251 million 5 year deal and has a no trade clause in the contract. He is the only player in the league who has a true no trade clause in the contract. Beal is very very lucky to have earned a contract like that to be honest. From my point of view. Its definitely not worth it for the organisation. Beal is a good player but I don't consider him a superstar to be earning such contracts.

Wow, these players are still getting good contract even though they don't make any good thing for their teams. This isn't for Bradley Beal only but for other players that doesn't make any impact on their respective team, it's like they're just milking the organization.

Beal has been playing like a superstar, unfortunately, he is the only superstar left on his team that's why the Wizards are struggling now. When Wall and Beal was still playing together, the team reached in the playoffs and they are very competitive although they have not reach in the NBA Finals.

About the salary, I think he deserve that.

Bradley Beal Average point per game during 2021-2022 season was 23.2pts which is already high and worthy to have a super star salary but what I don’t understand about Washington is why they give so much salary for a 5 year contract which is already sufficient to acquire more players with good skills that will help Beal. Washington management is surely all in investment on Beal since they lock him in for 5 years without any assurance that they can get a better result on the upcoming season. I really think they need to acquire more young talents and develop by themselves if they really want to focus the play around Beal.

Probably because they don't want to lose Beal, what if other teams will offer Beal a big salary, then they will end up having no superstar anymore. As long as Beal is healthy, he is still very valuable to the team, eventually they would be able to build a team with good chemistry where Beal leading the team to the playoffs.

That's there plan to begin with, sign him so that he will stay with them, and then build a good supporting cast around him. They almost made it with Beal + Westbrook. But we all know that they have traded him to the Lakers and get multiple of players. But still, it's not enough, they should get another superstar again to help and put their team on the playoff contender for next season.

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Quote from: Coin_trader on July 07, 2022, 06:36:29 AM

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Quote from: vennali on July 07, 2022, 01:10:31 AM

Bradley Beal has negotiated in a 251 million 5 year deal and has a no trade clause in the contract. He is the only player in the league who has a true no trade clause in the contract. Beal is very very lucky to have earned a contract like that to be honest. From my point of view. Its definitely not worth it for the organisation. Beal is a good player but I don't consider him a superstar to be earning such contracts.

Wow, these players are still getting good contract even though they don't make any good thing for their teams. This isn't for Bradley Beal only but for other players that doesn't make any impact on their respective team, it's like they're just milking the organization.

Beal has been playing like a superstar, unfortunately, he is the only superstar left on his team that's why the Wizards are struggling now. When Wall and Beal was still playing together, the team reached in the playoffs and they are very competitive although they have not reach in the NBA Finals.

About the salary, I think he deserve that.

Bradley Beal Average point per game during 2021-2022 season was 23.2pts which is already high and worthy to have a super star salary but what I don’t understand about Washington is why they give so much salary for a 5 year contract which is already sufficient to acquire more players with good skills that will help Beal. Washington management is surely all in investment on Beal since they lock him in for 5 years without any assurance that they can get a better result on the upcoming season. I really think they need to acquire more young talents and develop by themselves if they really want to focus the play around Beal.

Probably because they don't want to lose Beal, what if other teams will offer Beal a big salary, then they will end up having no superstar anymore. As long as Beal is healthy, he is still very valuable to the team, eventually they would be able to build a team with good chemistry where Beal leading the team to the playoffs.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on July 07, 2022, 06:24:15 AM

Quote from: rhomelmabini on July 07, 2022, 06:20:51 AM

Quote from: vennali on July 07, 2022, 01:10:31 AM

Bradley Beal has negotiated in a 251 million 5 year deal and has a no trade clause in the contract. He is the only player in the league who has a true no trade clause in the contract. Beal is very very lucky to have earned a contract like that to be honest. From my point of view. Its definitely not worth it for the organisation. Beal is a good player but I don't consider him a superstar to be earning such contracts.

Wow, these players are still getting good contract even though they don't make any good thing for their teams. This isn't for Bradley Beal only but for other players that doesn't make any impact on their respective team, it's like they're just milking the organization.

Beal has been playing like a superstar, unfortunately, he is the only superstar left on his team that's why the Wizards are struggling now. When Wall and Beal was still playing together, the team reached in the playoffs and they are very competitive although they have not reach in the NBA Finals.

About the salary, I think he deserve that.

Bradley Beal Average point per game during 2021-2022 season was 23.2pts which is already high and worthy to have a super star salary but what I don’t understand about Washington is why they give so much salary for a 5 year contract which is already sufficient to acquire more players with good skills that will help Beal. Washington management is surely all in investment on Beal since they lock him in for 5 years without any assurance that they can get a better result on the upcoming season. I really think they need to acquire more young talents and develop by themselves if they really want to focus the play around Beal.

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Quote from: rhomelmabini on July 07, 2022, 06:20:51 AM

Quote from: vennali on July 07, 2022, 01:10:31 AM

Bradley Beal has negotiated in a 251 million 5 year deal and has a no trade clause in the contract. He is the only player in the league who has a true no trade clause in the contract. Beal is very very lucky to have earned a contract like that to be honest. From my point of view. Its definitely not worth it for the organisation. Beal is a good player but I don't consider him a superstar to be earning such contracts.

Wow, these players are still getting good contract even though they don't make any good thing for their teams. This isn't for Bradley Beal only but for other players that doesn't make any impact on their respective team, it's like they're just milking the organization.

Beal has been playing like a superstar, unfortunately, he is the only superstar left on his team that's why the Wizards are struggling now. When Wall and Beal was still playing together, the team reached in the playoffs and they are very competitive although they have not reach in the NBA Finals.

About the salary, I think he deserve that.

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Quote from: vennali on July 07, 2022, 01:10:31 AM

Bradley Beal has negotiated in a 251 million 5 year deal and has a no trade clause in the contract. He is the only player in the league who has a true no trade clause in the contract. Beal is very very lucky to have earned a contract like that to be honest. From my point of view. Its definitely not worth it for the organisation. Beal is a good player but I don't consider him a superstar to be earning such contracts.

Wow, these players are still getting good contract even though they don't make any good thing for their teams. This isn't for Bradley Beal only but for other players that doesn't make any impact on their respective team, it's like they're just milking the organization.

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Quote from: vennali on July 07, 2022, 01:10:31 AM

Bradley Beal has negotiated in a 251 million 5 year deal and has a no trade clause in the contract. He is the only player in the league who has a true no trade clause in the contract. Beal is very very lucky to have earned a contract like that to be honest. From my point of view. Its definitely not worth it for the organisation. Beal is a good player but I don't consider him a superstar to be earning such contracts.

Well! NBA players nowadays really make money with their good play and popularity and just like that, they earned millions of dollars. that's why teams are really paying them well considering they might not get anything from them because injuries are their enemy. look at Williamson, he does his best in his first season debut and everybody was hoping to see him playing well and to be one of the strong players that can bring his team to the championship he even got his personalized shoes by Nike but injury got him good which made him hibernate in the NBA last season.

He was the number 1 overall pick for a reason, no season that he finished but his stats are really good, and since he is still young, I understand that his team gambled a lot by signing him the max contract.

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Quote from: vennali on July 07, 2022, 01:10:31 AM

Bradley Beal has negotiated in a 251 million 5 year deal and has a no trade clause in the contract. He is the only player in the league who has a true no trade clause in the contract. Beal is very very lucky to have earned a contract like that to be honest. From my point of view. Its definitely not worth it for the organisation. Beal is a good player but I don't consider him a superstar to be earning such contracts.

Well! NBA players nowadays really make money with their good play and popularity and just like that, they earned millions of dollars. that's why teams are really paying them well considering they might not get anything from them because injuries are their enemy. look at Williamson, he does his best in his first season debut and everybody was hoping to see him playing well and to be one of the strong players that can bring his team to the championship he even got his personalized shoes by Nike but injury got him good which made him hibernate in the NBA last season.

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Could just be one of these modern day players that really don’t have a position. Like Kevin Durant. I guess you could call him a small forward, but in reality he’s got the height where he’d traditionally play center but of course we all know he’s got the skills to play shooting guard and point guard, which he basically does at times.

OKC officially listed him as 7'1" Grin

That's easily an automatic Center position in 99% of basketball teams. I'm not even qualified to say this but I do hope OKC use him more on the post. He's going to be tough to guard for anyone in the league with that height/reach and shooting skills.

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We see him performed that one leg Dirk move and he hit the shot.

I mean own it and use it as an offensive weapon on a consistent basis.

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At least added like 10-20 lbs of pure muscle so that he can't just pushed around. Giannis when he built his body was not affected and he is still very fast and with that huge stride.

Yeah, I've seen him pushed around (box out) quite easily when he was at the center. The 10-20 lbs would help him establish his footing and improve in getting into positions. I don't want to compare him to Giannis though because of the difference in built. Giannis is a freak athlete while Chet is built more like KD or Dirk.

Yeah, there was one game, wherein he was pushed by Zach Randolph look alike, Kenneth Lofton. Here is the video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4z88HaV6RM

So let's see, there are a lot of interesting rookie narrative, if others are interested on the outright bet for ROY as early as today, here it is:

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Quote from: vennali on July 07, 2022, 01:10:31 AM

Bradley Beal has negotiated in a 251 million 5 year deal and has a no trade clause in the contract. He is the only player in the league who has a true no trade clause in the contract. Beal is very very lucky to have earned a contract like that to be honest. From my point of view. Its definitely not worth it for the organisation. Beal is a good player but I don't consider him a superstar to be earning such contracts.

Just bumped into this in Twitter.
https://twitter.com/BobbyMarks42/status/1544785534370942978?s=20&t=TcpOIOMsG8tv3dJxZ9JFNA

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Beal becomes only the 10th player to have a no trade clause joining LeBron, KG, Melo, Dirk, Kobe, DWade, Duncan, David Robinson and John Stockton.
The contract also has a 15% trade kicker and player option in year 5.

He may be the only player in the league today, but he ain't the first player that had the same contract.
Same as what you feel, I don't believe he is worth the contract. I didn't even see Iverson and Jordan on the list and yet this guy is securing his lambo. Cheesy

Wizards may have the thought of protecting him but the fact is it's the other way around.
I guess I should just congratulate whoever the Agent of Beal is, as he did a good job to promote his player.

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