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July 14, 2024, 12:57:59 AM
I do not think that Nike had anything to do with this, I think Lebron was the one who built this team to be fair. And aside from Embiid, who is clearly not American and not like "oh he is black" type of racist thing, dude spent most of his life in another nation and was born there, if you are born on a nation but you have parents who were born in another, then I support you being on a team for a nation that you are born in, but this dude wasn't even born here.

Aside from him, they brought in some of the big guns and I am sure that they are going to do very well. I do not think that anyone will get even close to them, this isn't some ok players team, this is the stars and nobody has any players that is even close to this level.

Based on his bio. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joel_Embiid

he is an "Cameroonian / French / American"

So he could play with either of these three national teams,  Grin... But he chose America, so I think there's no problem with that. In our national team, there's even one naturalized citizen who's a foreigner, but since it's allowed, that's fine.

I think we are talking too much about Brown's complaint. It's time to rest that and give Team USA peace of mind and wish them the best.

Yeah its individual choice on where they want to play. But unfortunately there are fans that doesn't like the decision of Embiid to play in US since some of them like to see him wearing Cameroons uniform. But their want didn't happen since he decide to join USA. Maybe they should respect the decision of Embiid since he can choose to play wherever he want. They are just taking everything so heavy and got angry when their expectation didn't happen.

Brown issue is not done yet and for sure there would be a lot more discussion to come. But if brown decide to stop and focus on other things maybe with thay we can see that this issue will fade out naturally.

Both issues still hot since the Olympics is not done yet and same follows, these topic will die naturally  once the new NBA season starts as fans will start cheering with their favorite teams and stars, let's focus with how team US will perform and see if they can dominate the olympics with the current squad that they've got.

With those EU teams who also have decent quality players, it's a challenge against this newly formed US squad.



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July 13, 2024, 05:53:46 PM
Jalen Brunson renewed his contract with the Knicks for 4 years, 156.5 million dollars.
If Brunson had renewed his contract next year instead of this year, he would have earned 5 years and 269 million dollars. However, Brunson wanted to give his team "financial comfort".
This is how Brunson supported his team for the championship.

That's a big difference. However, I think Brunson decided not only to give the team "financial comfort" but also not to push his luck. I mean, so many things can change during the regular season. If he gets injured or performs worse next season, the offer from Knicks management might be worse than it is now.
Brunson wants a ring, that's it. He is trying to give his team room to sign someone else to help the team IMO. I think he felt like last year was their year and they couldn't close it out and now he's pissed and hungry.

By signing this contract it keeps the Knicks under the second financial apron.  This means they will have more flexibility to sign players and the bigger part opens up theor trade options.  Leon rose the gm used to be his agent, his dad is an assistant coach.  JB is tied into the Knicks and is giving them the best chance they can over the next 3/4 years to build a winner.  If dude brings home a championship they might as well build a statue at msg lol.
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July 13, 2024, 04:58:31 PM
Jalen Brunson renewed his contract with the Knicks for 4 years, 156.5 million dollars.
If Brunson had renewed his contract next year instead of this year, he would have earned 5 years and 269 million dollars. However, Brunson wanted to give his team "financial comfort".
This is how Brunson supported his team for the championship.

That's a big difference. However, I think Brunson decided not only to give the team "financial comfort" but also not to push his luck. I mean, so many things can change during the regular season. If he gets injured or performs worse next season, the offer from Knicks management might be worse than it is now.
Brunson wants a ring, that's it. He is trying to give his team room to sign someone else to help the team IMO. I think he felt like last year was their year and they couldn't close it out and now he's pissed and hungry.
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July 13, 2024, 03:35:23 PM
Taj Gibson signing a one year deal with the Hornets for 3.3 million dollars to be a mentor to a young squad is an interesting signing. He must be a good locker room guy and he has lots of experience. It seems like Charlotte is really trying to build something. That or they have no clue how to control LaMelo and are grasping at straws.
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July 13, 2024, 02:18:35 PM
I also think that Brunson was afraid, that's not like some "did it for the club" type of thing, players don't do that anymore. I think he was afraid that if he doesn't take this deal, he may not have a season like the one he had for a long time. He is not the type of guy who would leave 100 million on the table because nobody is, not even Lebron, if you offer someone 100 million then they will take it.

In any case, New York paid him very little, less than what he deserved, and they are not going to use it at all, Harden did the same with Sixers and Sixers did nothing about it. Knicks are a very badly managed team, owned by a guy who doesn't care about the team because he only cares about the valuation of the team, and they will suck no matter how much they pay to Brunson. They can give him zero dollars and still keep him and still be bad.
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July 13, 2024, 12:43:16 PM
Jalen Brunson renewed his contract with the Knicks for 4 years, 156.5 million dollars.
If Brunson had renewed his contract next year instead of this year, he would have earned 5 years and 269 million dollars. However, Brunson wanted to give his team "financial comfort".
This is how Brunson supported his team for the championship.

That's a big difference. However, I think Brunson decided not only to give the team "financial comfort" but also not to push his luck. I mean, so many things can change during the regular season. If he gets injured or performs worse next season, the offer from Knicks management might be worse than it is now.
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July 13, 2024, 12:34:28 PM
In this year's Summer League, the Celtics have players who were on the roster last season, such as JD Davison and Jordan Walsh. Baylor Scheierman and Anton Watson, who were selected in the 2024 NBA Draft, will also play for the Miami Heat match. Undrafted free agent Tristan Enaruna is also on the Celtics roster. The Celtics are giving their young players a chance to develop and capitalize on their future potential.

The Heat's Summer League roster includes Cole Swider and Alondes Williams, who joined the team late last season on two-way contracts. New two-way signings Zyon Pullin and Keshad Johnson are also on the roster. The Heat will evaluate the performances of its young players to determine who will be on the roster for next season. Summer League head coach Dan Bisaccio will try to maximize the potential of the young talents by putting them on the court. The Heat will play the Celtics match having played three summer league games. Therefore, they have the advantage of playing a little more together. Although the Miami Heat have scored above summer league standards in previous games, the Celtics effect could make this game different.
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July 13, 2024, 09:36:37 AM
Jalen Brunson renewed his contract with the Knicks for 4 years, 156.5 million dollars.
If Brunson had renewed his contract next year instead of this year, he would have earned 5 years and 269 million dollars. However, Brunson wanted to give his team "financial comfort".
This is how Brunson supported his team for the championship.

There aren't many basketball players who can do that. While everyone is looking to make more money and get bigger contracts, you cannot find a player who will do such a big favor. He is a very well-intentioned player who has acted as if he has been in this team for many years.
I laughed a lot at Josh Hart's tweet after the news. Build him a statue he said Cheesy
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July 13, 2024, 09:33:25 AM
I do not think that Nike had anything to do with this, I think Lebron was the one who built this team to be fair. And aside from Embiid, who is clearly not American and not like "oh he is black" type of racist thing, dude spent most of his life in another nation and was born there, if you are born on a nation but you have parents who were born in another, then I support you being on a team for a nation that you are born in, but this dude wasn't even born here.

Aside from him, they brought in some of the big guns and I am sure that they are going to do very well. I do not think that anyone will get even close to them, this isn't some ok players team, this is the stars and nobody has any players that is even close to this level.

Based on his bio. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joel_Embiid

he is an "Cameroonian / French / American"

So he could play with either of these three national teams,  Grin... But he chose America, so I think there's no problem with that. In our national team, there's even one naturalized citizen who's a foreigner, but since it's allowed, that's fine.

I think we are talking too much about Brown's complaint. It's time to rest that and give Team USA peace of mind and wish them the best.

Yeah its individual choice on where they want to play. But unfortunately there are fans that doesn't like the decision of Embiid to play in US since some of them like to see him wearing Cameroons uniform. But their want didn't happen since he decide to join USA. Maybe they should respect the decision of Embiid since he can choose to play wherever he want. They are just taking everything so heavy and got angry when their expectation didn't happen.

Brown issue is not done yet and for sure there would be a lot more discussion to come. But if brown decide to stop and focus on other things maybe with thay we can see that this issue will fade out naturally.
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July 13, 2024, 09:10:06 AM
I do not think that Nike had anything to do with this, I think Lebron was the one who built this team to be fair. And aside from Embiid, who is clearly not American and not like "oh he is black" type of racist thing, dude spent most of his life in another nation and was born there, if you are born on a nation but you have parents who were born in another, then I support you being on a team for a nation that you are born in, but this dude wasn't even born here.

Aside from him, they brought in some of the big guns and I am sure that they are going to do very well. I do not think that anyone will get even close to them, this isn't some ok players team, this is the stars and nobody has any players that is even close to this level.

Based on his bio. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joel_Embiid

he is an "Cameroonian / French / American"

So he could play with either of these three national teams,  Grin... But he chose America, so I think there's no problem with that. In our national team, there's even one naturalized citizen who's a foreigner, but since it's allowed, that's fine.

I think we are talking too much about Brown's complaint. It's time to rest that and give Team USA peace of mind and wish them the best.

When it comes to sports like Basketball, Football or even track racing you'll surely find individual playing for countries of their choosing, take a look at the case of the Williams brothers of Athletic Bilbao in football, Inaki Williams the elder brother represent the Ghanaian national team, while his younger brother Nico Williams is currently playing for Spain in Euro 2024.

Let's for instance how many Canadian NBA players were actually born in Canada or do not possess due citizenship ? at the end of the day it's always comes down to the individual choice of the player.
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July 13, 2024, 07:18:55 AM
I do not think that Nike had anything to do with this, I think Lebron was the one who built this team to be fair. And aside from Embiid, who is clearly not American and not like "oh he is black" type of racist thing, dude spent most of his life in another nation and was born there, if you are born on a nation but you have parents who were born in another, then I support you being on a team for a nation that you are born in, but this dude wasn't even born here.

Aside from him, they brought in some of the big guns and I am sure that they are going to do very well. I do not think that anyone will get even close to them, this isn't some ok players team, this is the stars and nobody has any players that is even close to this level.

Based on his bio. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joel_Embiid

he is an "Cameroonian / French / American"

So he could play with either of these three national teams,  Grin... But he chose America, so I think there's no problem with that. In our national team, there's even one naturalized citizen who's a foreigner, but since it's allowed, that's fine.

I think we are talking too much about Brown's complaint. It's time to rest that and give Team USA peace of mind and wish them the best.
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July 13, 2024, 04:17:18 AM
Jalen Brunson renewed his contract with the Knicks for 4 years, 156.5 million dollars.
If Brunson had renewed his contract next year instead of this year, he would have earned 5 years and 269 million dollars. However, Brunson wanted to give his team "financial comfort".
This is how Brunson supported his team for the championship.
He cannot do it alone, I think that is what he meant for accepting the contract now. He needs help and obviously, money is needed if you want better players to be on your side.
How I wish all superstars think like Brunson especially if your goal is a championship and not just the money. The same goes with Lebron James who is ready to cut some of his salary just to get a new star player in their roster. Sacrifices.
Also, I think he doesn't want to look bad when he cannot win a championship and we all know how New York treats the players, there's always the pressure.
Yes, and probably it was something to do with his Father as well, who is the assistant coach of New York Knicks, so at least he respect and give Knicks a leeway somewhat and instead of signing it for next year for a max contract for him, might be better this year and then see how it goes not just for Jalen but for other teams as the Knicks could still sign some good players to be added so that they will be a complete team and could make a good run just like they did last season. I think Lebron also do that this season and willing to have a pay cut just to get players like DeRozan and Klay Thompson, but it went to nothing though.
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July 13, 2024, 01:50:03 AM
I do not think that Nike had anything to do with this, I think Lebron was the one who built this team to be fair. And aside from Embiid, who is clearly not American and not like "oh he is black" type of racist thing, dude spent most of his life in another nation and was born there, if you are born on a nation but you have parents who were born in another, then I support you being on a team for a nation that you are born in, but this dude wasn't even born here.

Aside from him, they brought in some of the big guns and I am sure that they are going to do very well. I do not think that anyone will get even close to them, this isn't some ok players team, this is the stars and nobody has any players that is even close to this level.
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July 13, 2024, 01:25:22 AM
Jalen Brunson renewed his contract with the Knicks for 4 years, 156.5 million dollars.
If Brunson had renewed his contract next year instead of this year, he would have earned 5 years and 269 million dollars. However, Brunson wanted to give his team "financial comfort".
This is how Brunson supported his team for the championship.
He cannot do it alone, I think that is what he meant for accepting the contract now. He needs help and obviously, money is needed if you want better players to be on your side.
How I wish all superstars think like Brunson especially if your goal is a championship and not just the money. The same goes with Lebron James who is ready to cut some of his salary just to get a new star player in their roster. Sacrifices.
Also, I think he doesn't want to look bad when he cannot win a championship and we all know how New York treats the players, there's always the pressure.
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July 13, 2024, 01:19:46 AM
Jalen Brunson renewed his contract with the Knicks for 4 years, 156.5 million dollars.
If Brunson had renewed his contract next year instead of this year, he would have earned 5 years and 269 million dollars. However, Brunson wanted to give his team "financial comfort".
This is how Brunson supported his team for the championship.

I think he also knows he isn’t as good as he is being portrayed right now and wanted to secure his bag while he could. If he gets injured or exposed next year he could be wishing he’d get the 150 million… I would have done the same thing if I was him and given the same answer, but the truth is he didn’t hold out for 269 because he’s not worth it and he knows it.
He is the only one who know his real intention, but comparing to other players that bag over $200 million contract, I think Brunson was even better.

So I made some quick search and there are the names.
https://www.businessinsider.com/nba-players-who-signed-200-million-contracts#10-joel-embiid-4-years-208-million-10
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1. Nikola Jokic — 5 years, $269 million\
2. Bradley Beal — 5 years, $251 million
3. Giannis Antetokounmpo — 5 years, $228 million
4. Devin Booker — 4 years, $224 million
5. Karl-Anthony Towns — 4 years, $224 million
6. Stephen Curry — 4 years, $215 million
7. Luka Doncic — 5 years, $215 million
8. Zach LaVine — 5 years, $215 million
9. Trae Young — 5 years, $215 million

10. Joel Embiid — 4 years, $208 million

So all the names in bold text, I believe Brunson is better than them in terms of impact to the team.
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July 13, 2024, 12:31:09 AM
Jalen Brunson renewed his contract with the Knicks for 4 years, 156.5 million dollars.
If Brunson had renewed his contract next year instead of this year, he would have earned 5 years and 269 million dollars. However, Brunson wanted to give his team "financial comfort".
This is how Brunson supported his team for the championship.

I think he also knows he isn’t as good as he is being portrayed right now and wanted to secure his bag while he could. If he gets injured or exposed next year he could be wishing he’d get the 150 million… I would have done the same thing if I was him and given the same answer, but the truth is he didn’t hold out for 269 because he’s not worth it and he knows it.
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July 12, 2024, 09:34:33 PM
This Olympic team will of course win it, but I guarantee you that it will be harder than they think, hell I may even say that they may fail to do it as well, we really don't know what's going to happen. We should realize that things aren't as easy as it looks, and we could potentially see them do something different, maybe it is going to be harder.

I think the best way to go about this situation would be just realize that they could just calm down and play slower, because if they want to play faster, most of these players are old, and they will not catch up with other teams, but if they slow it down, they are more talented than all others and they can get better results. Lets see what Kerr will do with this team.

You can always say that, as the majority of us believe in Team USA. However, I want some thrill, so I don't like seeing Team USA dominate every team they face. I want them to struggle a bit but still win the gold in the end. Or maybe I'd like them to fall in the gold match so this time a new country will win. Team USA has already won four straight— isn't it boring?
It already became boring when they revealed the roster of Team USA for the Paris Olympics.
I mean if you're from USA, you don't find it boring because it's your team, and all you want is to win. On the flip side, if you're from another country, you find this kind of one-sided since the USA picked most of their best players to defend their title.

Anyway, many thought that other countries are coping up with the USA already since the recent MVPs in the NBA during the regular season came from other countries, but let's take note that it's a 5v5 match. Having a team with 4 average players followed by 1 MVP will not stand out against 5 all-star players and 5 bench all-star players.

Jalen Brunson renewed his contract with the Knicks for 4 years, 156.5 million dollars.
If Brunson had renewed his contract next year instead of this year, he would have earned 5 years and 269 million dollars. However, Brunson wanted to give his team "financial comfort".
This is how Brunson supported his team for the championship.
Surprising, but with the lack of cap space, he really thinks that he needs to have a pay cut for the betterment of the team.
I'm pretty sure his father also talked with him regarding on this one. I just hope that this pay cut coming from him will translate to championships in the next years. Good move coming from him. I hope that with this pay cut, they can get good if not the best role players that are free agents out there.
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July 12, 2024, 06:03:31 PM
Jalen Brunson renewed his contract with the Knicks for 4 years, 156.5 million dollars.
If Brunson had renewed his contract next year instead of this year, he would have earned 5 years and 269 million dollars. However, Brunson wanted to give his team "financial comfort".
This is how Brunson supported his team for the championship.
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July 12, 2024, 10:41:51 AM
France is said to be the winner for this entire Olympics.  Cheesy
With all of these exhibition matches before the actual, most of them are going all out. I know that they know the drill to avoid further injuries but I don't wish anyone of them to be on that situation just because with all of these exhibition matches.
The current ranking still puts the USA at the top spot. I think I agree with this because this is a better version of Team USA. They sent a younger team last time during the FIBA World Cup and they lost. But now, they have the best players, the veterans, so I think they'll do whatever it takes to win.

LeBron, Curry, Embiid, Booker, and Tatum are just a few names, but these players are already top-caliber. There's no way the USA will lose. I might be hyping it up a bit, but I'm just trying to be honest here with my opinion.
They have veterans and some young calibers as well, they don't just want to pass on to this Olympics and they're eager to take that gold medal.

France is said to be the winner for this entire Olympics.  Cheesy
With all of these exhibition matches before the actual, most of them are going all out. I know that they know the drill to avoid further injuries but I don't wish anyone of them to be on that situation just because with all of these exhibition matches.

It's getting more excited as qualifying teams are now doing their best to represent their countries, I like the challenges being called by those super teams from EU and now Team USA brings their own versions of a super team, working with chemistries and as far the result of that game against Canada I guess they got something and will established that sparks from each other.

France is really a good contender basing from their performance though Canada is also composed of competitive players, we'll see who's going to be the finalist too early to conclude.
I agree that they're all active in bringing glory to their countries and that's because all of them are going to be honored when they go back to their respective countries bringing those colorful medals.
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July 12, 2024, 06:57:16 AM
I guess his defensive productivity is what Clippers goes after with him since they already have shooters. And its good that they decide to retain him since Batum still can give huge contribution for them.
Batum was big last playoffs, Clippers probably saw that and they got him back. he is a great shooter and defender as well, so he just need some good playing time to maximize his talent. Now, the Clippers seemed to be having new player because they get rid of PG already,  so they will be unpredictable next season but I can't expect if they are still a good playoff team as Leonard's health is very big that would dictate their future.

Although he's out of his prime but the guy still can play ball. That's why he still receive a contract since his performance still relevant to the current competitiveness level of NBA. This is great decision Clippers made and they have been make their stars surrounded by reliable role players. If he can still perform so well then maybe he could last for more years.

His numbers gone down so I agree that he already past his prime. (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/batumni01.html).
However, he now have the experience which is very useful on a team that are consistent in the playoffs.

I'm not so excited with the current form of the Clippers but I'm happy with Batum getting a new contract with his old team.
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