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May 01, 2024, 06:09:19 AM
I just came across a crazy statistic on twitter. Apparently with tonight’s win over the Indiana Pacers the Milwaukee Bucks became the first team in NBA history to win a playoff game without their 2 leading scorers from the regular season playing. That shows just how difficult it is to pull off what they did tonight. Maybe a good omen.
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The Philly game tonight was something else. They may have won the game but I feel like the basketball community is turning on Joel Embiid. They’re tired of his flopping antics and it shows on social media.

Yeah, and it's Tyrese Maxey who carry the team as the made a incredible run to tie the score and force OT.

So let's see how the series will turn out, I thought that it should be a close out for the Knicks and then relax, now they have to travel to Wells Fargo to get back and end this series for good.
Well they have to because the Sixers aren't gonna give that easily. They worked hard to be in the playoffs even without the health problem of Embiid, and as we can see, Embiid is still giving his best despite being not 100% healthy. Maxey is the man, he is currently the best player of the Sixers and just a win in game 6 and game 7 will likely be a very great game and I'm betting on the Sixers if that will happen.

Same with Boston, they need to get a win at the road against the Heat for a 4-1 series win.

This is quite different as the Heat are really a mismatch, they got lucky they win one game and 90% they'll be eliminated next game.
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May 01, 2024, 05:44:47 AM
The Philly game tonight was something else. They may have won the game but I feel like the basketball community is turning on Joel Embiid. They’re tired of his flopping antics and it shows on social media.

Yeah, and it's Tyrese Maxey who carry the team as the made a incredible run to tie the score and force OT.

So let's see how the series will turn out, I thought that it should be a close out for the Knicks and then relax, now they have to travel to Wells Fargo to get back and end this series for good.

Same with Boston, they need to get a win at the road against the Heat for a 4-1 series win.
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May 01, 2024, 05:38:10 AM
Individually, Jokic is unstoppable and he's on his prime. With his height and vision to the paint makes him a great play maker but it's true that without Jamal, he won't make it. I hope that if ever they win the championship this time, it's going to be Jamal that will win the MVP award. And that last two shots that he made to win the tie game on a playoffs, that's something else and it's on the books and records now.

Those buzzer-beaters that Murray made in the first round are impressive, but if the Nuggets reach the finals, I think Jokic will have an advantage over Murray in terms of getting the Finals MVP award. After all, this award is given to the player who contributed the most to the team's victories throughout the series, not in a single game. In this regard, Jokic looks like a more stable player compared to Murray.
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May 01, 2024, 04:32:33 AM
^ Ya, the Bucks are coming through without their superstars. It shows that while superstars are great, everybody in an NBA uniform can play.

The Philly game tonight was something else. They may have won the game but I feel like the basketball community is turning on Joel Embiid. They’re tired of his flopping antics and it shows on social media.

They are still lucky their season is not over yet. Maxey saved them with clutch plays that brought the game to OT. Now, this looks like the series will reach game 7 as Sixers will make sure they'll get game 6. I like the Maxey and Embiid combo, this young man has a good stamina as I didn't see him look tired in that game, and despite being young, I can see how great he is not afraid to carry his team behind him. it's a well deserve win by the Sixers.

I’ll be surprised if they get out of the first round. It seems like Embiid just isn’t anywhere near 100% and I think guys like Maxey aren’t going to be able to carry them through this series. I wouldn’t be surprised if this series is over after their next meeting on Thursday. I don’t think the Knicks want to see a game 7 with the Sixers.
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May 01, 2024, 03:55:16 AM
^ Ya, the Bucks are coming through without their superstars. It shows that while superstars are great, everybody in an NBA uniform can play.

The Philly game tonight was something else. They may have won the game but I feel like the basketball community is turning on Joel Embiid. They’re tired of his flopping antics and it shows on social media.

They are still lucky their season is not over yet. Maxey saved them with clutch plays that brought the game to OT. Now, this looks like the series will reach game 7 as Sixers will make sure they'll get game 6. I like the Maxey and Embiid combo, this young man has a good stamina as I didn't see him look tired in that game, and despite being young, I can see how great he is not afraid to carry his team behind him. it's a well deserve win by the Sixers.
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May 01, 2024, 12:10:38 AM
^ Ya, the Bucks are coming through without their superstars. It shows that while superstars are great, everybody in an NBA uniform can play.
That's it, 115-92 ending score. 3-2 in standing and there goes the game 6. All of the other players have made great contribution and I agree that in NBA, everyone can contribute and do better in the same uniform as they are. It's just a matter of given playing time and with situations like this, they're able to step up. Beasley, Middleton, Beverley, they all did great and some additional from other benchies.

The Philly game tonight was something else. They may have won the game but I feel like the basketball community is turning on Joel Embiid. They’re tired of his flopping antics and it shows on social media.
Anyway, Maxey did great on this game and this probably his career high CMIIW. No doubt that he's been awarded the most improved player.
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April 30, 2024, 11:27:28 PM
^ Ya, the Bucks are coming through without their superstars. It shows that while superstars are great, everybody in an NBA uniform can play.

The Philly game tonight was something else. They may have won the game but I feel like the basketball community is turning on Joel Embiid. They’re tired of his flopping antics and it shows on social media.
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April 30, 2024, 11:20:58 PM
Looks like no Giannis, no Damian - no problem for the Milwaukee Bucks. Game's now in the 3rd quarter with a 15 points lead with under 5 minutes remaining to the clock.

Jamal Murray is definitely what made Nuggets win this easily, because we are talking about someone who made Jokic 2 time MVP as well. How? Well simply enough, Jokic can't be a great Center if he had no help at all, he needs some help to be who he is, like we all know him as a great passer right? Who could he pass to if he had terrible teammates? His teammates missing all their shots would make him not be the MVP, but when there are other threats like Murray who plays like this, he ends up getting better looks as well.
Individually, Jokic is unstoppable and he's on his prime. With his height and vision to the paint makes him a great play maker but it's true that without Jamal, he won't make it. I hope that if ever they win the championship this time, it's going to be Jamal that will win the MVP award. And that last two shots that he made to win the tie game on a playoffs, that's something else and it's on the books and records now.

Murray definitely played amazingly and I believe that he is going to end up being the Kobe to Jokics Shaq in the future. We are going to see people start talking about Murray like the star he is, but it may take some time because all eyes are on Jokic right now.
This tandem is for keeps of the Nuggets unless one of them wants to get out of the team. But I don't think that they'd do that since they're enjoying their moments there and this kind of chemistry is hard to find so for sure the Nuggets heads won't do something crazy of trading them. That's why it's all on them and contracts like this is freedom for them and they know what they want to. I guess that they will be settling down with only one team until retirement.
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April 30, 2024, 04:57:19 PM
Jamal Murray is definitely what made Nuggets win this easily, because we are talking about someone who made Jokic 2 time MVP as well. How? Well simply enough, Jokic can't be a great Center if he had no help at all, he needs some help to be who he is, like we all know him as a great passer right? Who could he pass to if he had terrible teammates? His teammates missing all their shots would make him not be the MVP, but when there are other threats like Murray who plays like this, he ends up getting better looks as well.

Murray definitely played amazingly and I believe that he is going to end up being the Kobe to Jokics Shaq in the future. We are going to see people start talking about Murray like the star he is, but it may take some time because all eyes are on Jokic right now.

Agreed no one can do it alone and this kid is so underrated it's crazy.  When the lights shine he only gets better.  If he didn't blow out his knee a couple years ago he'd be a top 10 player in the league, yeah I think he is that good.  He obviously gets overshadowed by jokic for obvious reasons but look how much they struggled when Jamal was out for an extended period of time.
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April 30, 2024, 04:53:57 PM
Jamal Murray is definitely what made Nuggets win this easily, because we are talking about someone who made Jokic 2 time MVP as well. How? Well simply enough, Jokic can't be a great Center if he had no help at all, he needs some help to be who he is, like we all know him as a great passer right? Who could he pass to if he had terrible teammates? His teammates missing all their shots would make him not be the MVP, but when there are other threats like Murray who plays like this, he ends up getting better looks as well.

Murray definitely played amazingly and I believe that he is going to end up being the Kobe to Jokics Shaq in the future. We are going to see people start talking about Murray like the star he is, but it may take some time because all eyes are on Jokic right now.

Nah, Jokic is just simply a great player for a center position, even without Murray on the team the opposing team will have a hard time containing Jokic, thus making his teammates create more open shot opportunities. But I won't discredit on what Murray have done to this team. He is a great player on his own craft as well. In fact I was quite amazed by how he was able to get a good 4th quarter and make a game winner in game 2 despite of the bad shooting night.
Nevertheless, I can say this game between the Lakers and the Nuggets are really close. Though it might be unnoticeably different when you see the series standings, but in each game they play, the game are always close even if the Lakers have always lead at the half and sometimes a solid double digit, but the Nuggets always managed to close that gap.
It's really kind of weird for the Lakers to be losing against the Nuggets 4-1 when they always have the lead at the half and not only that, they always have a solid double digit lead at some point of the game and then the Nuggets will erase that deficit in the 4th quarter easily.
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April 30, 2024, 02:22:54 PM
Jamal Murray is definitely what made Nuggets win this easily, because we are talking about someone who made Jokic 2 time MVP as well. How? Well simply enough, Jokic can't be a great Center if he had no help at all, he needs some help to be who he is, like we all know him as a great passer right? Who could he pass to if he had terrible teammates? His teammates missing all their shots would make him not be the MVP, but when there are other threats like Murray who plays like this, he ends up getting better looks as well.

Murray definitely played amazingly and I believe that he is going to end up being the Kobe to Jokics Shaq in the future. We are going to see people start talking about Murray like the star he is, but it may take some time because all eyes are on Jokic right now.
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April 30, 2024, 02:07:13 PM
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The Lakers just didn't learn. Cheesy
That's one heck of a perimeter running shot from Jamal Murray for a game-winner. That's not easy, I could tell. No balance, feet not set, and being in front of a defender. He really mastered basketball to be able to do that.
I wouldn't blame them, they know that it's going to happen and Reaves was there to guard Murray but he's just too slippery. The problem there is that coach Darvin Ham didn't reserved any timeout for the last clutch plays like it's needed for those remaining seconds. And he didn't also used some on 3rd quarter when the momentum was with the Denver Nuggets, he didn't cut them off and let like 6+ points to be made by the Nuggets before he finally called it. If there's one to blame, it's obvious but the game's done and as I've said, no blaming anymore as that won't change the results.

With still more than 2 minutes left in the game the Lakers have no timeout anymore. The outcome could be different if they still have a timeout as they can design a play for a 3 point shot and the Lakers could win by 1 point. But you are right, what's done is done, Lakers just not as clutch as the Nuggets as they are only good at the start but always fail to finish the game with a win.

And take note, Murray was not even 100% in that game, before the game he was listed as questionable but he did play and was the hero in the game. The  Lakers players just did the right thing, it only differ on the coaching job.
Yeah, it will be a different story if Coach Darvin Ham have reserved even 1 timeout for the last remaining minutes of the 4th quarter but he didn't. He misused the timeouts, he didn't used it when it's mostly needed and used it when it's not needed at all. Well, that's how he coaches and we'll see that it the end, the Lakers management will have to decide if they're going to reform the team and do some shuffle for their roster or they'd remain intact with the current roster that they have. Because they actually need some help from a big man.

It seems like everyone (at least us old heads) is suddenly talking about LeBron, KD, and Steph teaming up.  This is the first time in 20 years we haven't seen one of those names in round 2 of the playoffs and folks like myself aren't ready to give up LeBron for Anthony Edwards just yet.  We want to see one big splash before those 3 big names drop off into irrelevancy.  So while it is just a pipe dream and Durant is already rumored to be considering a reunion in Oklahoma City, I would love nothing more than LeBron and KD signing with the Warriors this summer.  One last shot for them all.
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April 30, 2024, 02:01:53 PM
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The Lakers just didn't learn. Cheesy
That's one heck of a perimeter running shot from Jamal Murray for a game-winner. That's not easy, I could tell. No balance, feet not set, and being in front of a defender. He really mastered basketball to be able to do that.
I wouldn't blame them, they know that it's going to happen and Reaves was there to guard Murray but he's just too slippery. The problem there is that coach Darvin Ham didn't reserved any timeout for the last clutch plays like it's needed for those remaining seconds. And he didn't also used some on 3rd quarter when the momentum was with the Denver Nuggets, he didn't cut them off and let like 6+ points to be made by the Nuggets before he finally called it. If there's one to blame, it's obvious but the game's done and as I've said, no blaming anymore as that won't change the results.

With still more than 2 minutes left in the game the Lakers have no timeout anymore. The outcome could be different if they still have a timeout as they can design a play for a 3 point shot and the Lakers could win by 1 point. But you are right, what's done is done, Lakers just not as clutch as the Nuggets as they are only good at the start but always fail to finish the game with a win.

And take note, Murray was not even 100% in that game, before the game he was listed as questionable but he did play and was the hero in the game. The  Lakers players just did the right thing, it only differ on the coaching job.
Yeah, it will be a different story if Coach Darvin Ham have reserved even 1 timeout for the last remaining minutes of the 4th quarter but he didn't. He misused the timeouts, he didn't used it when it's mostly needed and used it when it's not needed at all. Well, that's how he coaches and we'll see that it the end, the Lakers management will have to decide if they're going to reform the team and do some shuffle for their roster or they'd remain intact with the current roster that they have. Because they actually need some help from a big man.
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April 30, 2024, 11:13:03 AM
I know it's playoff time and all but I wanted to switch the conversation in a slightly different direction just for a brief moment.  We all know we are seeing the end of Lebron James career which is truly saddening (if you can appreciate greatness that is, and this is coming from a Bulls fan).

That said, I know he wants to play with his son, and that his son entered the "portal".  I think anyone who knows anything about basketball knows he son is not good enough to play in the NBA, but could certainly join a squad if his father wants him on one (one he's likely on, of course).  Has there been any sort of consensus if this is definitely going to happen or not yet?  I think it would be foolish and his father would be pushing his son who clearly needs time to maturate.  Thoughts?
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April 30, 2024, 10:44:00 AM
Well so Lakers ended up his season and again was a desilusional one, only suported on the Lebron James and Antony Davis performance but never were a team, Denver going to fight for the second ring consecutive, lets see how solid they are, but Jokic on this level can garantized the 50% of this work.
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April 30, 2024, 10:37:02 AM

Timberwolves against the Nuggets. That will be fun!

This series will be interesting to watch. The Timberwolves have the blueprint to beat the Nuggets; they have two big men in the paint and a lot of perimeter D guys like Jaden McDaniels. Edwards will do the scoring, and Conley will facilitate the offense. The last time they met was in the first round last season, and the Nuggets beat the Timberwolves in the first round. Both teams have high morale going into the second round, especially the Wolves, as they swept the Suns. This will be a tough matchup for Jokic, as he will be guarded by KAT and Gobert, big men with a lot of lengths. Let's see how this series will be a close one, either game 6 or 7.
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April 30, 2024, 10:25:30 AM
Say what you will about the Lakers, they gave it a good run and it was a great game to watch that came down to the wire. I wish they would have had a timeout left at the end so they could have run a proper play to try and get the win, but rules are what they are with the replay challenges. I wouldn’t be surprised if tonight’s outcome doesn’t spur a rule change.

I'd say the Lakers performed well throughout this series. At least they didn't look like underdogs against a tough opponent like the Nuggets. I think their main problem in this series was that they made the same mistakes at the end of all the games, as well as the fact that it was mostly just LeBron and AD trying to do something.
I'm wondering if this will be LeBron's last season or if he will decide to re-sign with the Lakers for one more season.

Yes, they really show that they can compete against the defending champs. Comparing their performance last season in the WCF, this first round shows that they can go head-to-head with them, the lead most of the time in this series; they just can't close out games. That's really the problem with the Lakers, even with the regular season. There are some games where they have the lead most of the time, but when the closing minutes come, they can't close it out and lose the game. Coach is one of the reasons why those things happen, and I think that the Lakers should fire Darvin Ham and find a better coach out there. I am not saying that Darvin is that bad as a coach, but I think he is more suitable to coach a rebuilding and developing team than a win-now team. 

As for LeBron, I hope he re-signs with the team and retires as a Laker. He can still play for 2-3 years, and the Lakers can offer him a max contract for three years. I hope with those three years they can win one more chip to solidify his stint as a Laker.
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April 30, 2024, 09:54:09 AM
Wolves and Nuggets for sure will be interesting as both have that capabilities to win games against each other, twin towers against the Joker, while a one on one match up between Murray and ANT might bring the fire up.

Defensively, I don't see ANT guarding Murray and vice versa, it will be Aaron Gordon's job to stop ANT. But in terms of impact yeah, both are very important for their teams and they really need to have a good game in order for them to win the game.

Will mostly be Gobert against Jokic and so KAT might pose a lot of mismatch, but the thing with KAT is that he has 3 point shooting so for me he will be the big difference in this series and he shouldn't get into foul trouble to help the T'Wolves.

Well, let see if how Denver will adjust as we know that Gordon is good in defending the scorer and it's not just ANT but KAT also have that capabilities and for sure the design of the offensive attack will be on his side before ANT, taking that advantage inside while Gobert is handling Jokic, I like that matchup though Gobert is not really the center of their offense but defensive wise, he also have that speed to somehow give some headeche for Jokic.

If Lebron is still chasing for a championship, he should leave the Lakers and look for another team and build a super team again. Best chance for him to get a champion is to really pair with the best in the league, he can't be with the Clippers but I like to see him playing with the Dallas or Golden State, for sure there's a high chance that he can get another championship. Between the two, I think the Warriors will be able to accommodate him if the Warriors will not sign Klay and will trade Wiggins.

He is not already on peak performance unlike the time when he can still afford building his own superstar. Even himself is already considered as liability on some his games since he can’t carry anymore a team using his own skills.

I believe his best chance to get a championship is to join a team with solid line-up already like what you suggested such as Warriors that only missed a certain role to complete their roster. I believe he can replace Klay Thompson if ever he decided to request a trade already.

That's true, the best destination for him is the Warriors. I believe Lebron is friends with Draymond, so the chemistry is already guaranteed if Lebron will play. If Lebron will join, he should not act as a leader, Curry should still lead the team and Lebron just have to play his role. With the numbers he is putting consistently, I think he can still be a big contribution to a team, you can expect Lebron to produce at least 20 points per game, unlike Klay and Wiggins who are very inconsistent.

Warriors can keep Paul, I think they need a back up point guard or a main point guard, and as long as Paul is surrounded with great players, he will be more effective.

That might be a big gamble for the Warriors management, taking LeBron will force them to exceed more from their cap and I think LeBron will just slow things if he will be playing with the Warriors, the type of his leadership which he always wanted to hold the ball might not work with quick system that Warriors is implementing, oh well, next season is too far, just enjoy the current playoff and wait for the next rounds.
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April 30, 2024, 09:34:00 AM
If Lebron is still chasing for a championship, he should leave the Lakers and look for another team and build a super team again. Best chance for him to get a champion is to really pair with the best in the league, he can't be with the Clippers but I like to see him playing with the Dallas or Golden State, for sure there's a high chance that he can get another championship. Between the two, I think the Warriors will be able to accommodate him if the Warriors will not sign Klay and will trade Wiggins.

He is not already on peak performance unlike the time when he can still afford building his own superstar. Even himself is already considered as liability on some his games since he can’t carry anymore a team using his own skills.

I believe his best chance to get a championship is to join a team with solid line-up already like what you suggested such as Warriors that only missed a certain role to complete their roster. I believe he can replace Klay Thompson if ever he decided to request a trade already.

That's true, the best destination for him is the Warriors. I believe Lebron is friends with Draymond, so the chemistry is already guaranteed if Lebron will play. If Lebron will join, he should not act as a leader, Curry should still lead the team and Lebron just have to play his role. With the numbers he is putting consistently, I think he can still be a big contribution to a team, you can expect Lebron to produce at least 20 points per game, unlike Klay and Wiggins who are very inconsistent.

Warriors can keep Paul, I think they need a back up point guard or a main point guard, and as long as Paul is surrounded with great players, he will be more effective.
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