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Quote from: TheGreatPython on November 18, 2021, 04:20:52 PM

.... but they built a team around Lebron

Funny how you said that since what happened was more like they built a team that can still win even without Lebron or when he's injured. You don't "build" a team around your superstar and fill the roster with mostly veterans. It's not balanced and it looked like a desperate move after what happened to them last season.

You can call it's a desperate move by the Lakers management to get all this veterans and put it on one time and then can't find the perfect fit to all of them.

Somewhat though, I remember the discussions about them in the pre-season games where the Lakers lost a lot of games and we say that it is not that important. But now it seems that we are seeing that even today, they are struggling to win and now that Lebron is out, it is far more evident that the veterans are not jelling as they supposed to.

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on November 18, 2021, 07:29:10 PM

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Quote from: TheGreatPython on November 18, 2021, 04:20:52 PM

Another loss for Lakers, things are not looking great at all. I get that Lebron is missing and Lebron is by far their best player no matter how old he is, but they built a team around Lebron that keeps on losing once again. Meaning if Lebron left the team today then Lakers will become a bad team once again. This is why I believe that we should not be considering Lakers to be a bad team like that right now and should pressure them or at least expect them to be better even without Lebron.

Otherwise this is another team Lebron carried for a ring if it ever happens and at this point I do not expect that much from him. They either fix themselves and get better and find a good way, or they are going to end up being so much worse when it is playoff time.

I have no doubt that the Lakers can play better with or without Lebron, but it looks like they still need time to improve their team chemistry. I guess the Lakers' offense and defense on the court will change a lot throughout the season. Maybe they will even surprise us in the playoffs if their key players are healthy.

Playoffs will defimately be different but they can't play around too much otherwise they will be on the outside looking in. And this team needs lebron. Lebron is suck a hard cover it alters the defense on the rest of the team. I can see lebron only taking around 40-50 games though this season. Lakers know if he is shot by the ayoffs Lakers don't stand a chance and the last coue games showed how they will struggle.

Definitely, Lebron needs to get back and lead the Lakers. He is the heart and soul of the team, and if they wanted to make at least the playoffs, Lebron should get back in the line up.

Lebron is getting older, and obviously, with the games he missed thus far, he will probably have like that numbers in the regular season. But what's important is the playoff, they need him healthy and Davis to make a run again.

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Quote from: dwyane36 on November 18, 2021, 05:42:32 PM

Quote from: TheGreatPython on November 18, 2021, 04:20:52 PM

Another loss for Lakers, things are not looking great at all. I get that Lebron is missing and Lebron is by far their best player no matter how old he is, but they built a team around Lebron that keeps on losing once again. Meaning if Lebron left the team today then Lakers will become a bad team once again. This is why I believe that we should not be considering Lakers to be a bad team like that right now and should pressure them or at least expect them to be better even without Lebron.

Otherwise this is another team Lebron carried for a ring if it ever happens and at this point I do not expect that much from him. They either fix themselves and get better and find a good way, or they are going to end up being so much worse when it is playoff time.

I have no doubt that the Lakers can play better with or without Lebron, but it looks like they still need time to improve their team chemistry. I guess the Lakers' offense and defense on the court will change a lot throughout the season. Maybe they will even surprise us in the playoffs if their key players are healthy.

Playoffs will defimately be different but they can't play around too much otherwise they will be on the outside looking in. And this team needs lebron. Lebron is suck a hard cover it alters the defense on the rest of the team. I can see lebron only taking around 40-50 games though this season. Lakers know if he is shot by the ayoffs Lakers don't stand a chance and the last coue games showed how they will struggle.

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Quote from: dwyane36 on November 18, 2021, 05:42:32 PM

Quote from: TheGreatPython on November 18, 2021, 04:20:52 PM

Another loss for Lakers, things are not looking great at all. I get that Lebron is missing and Lebron is by far their best player no matter how old he is, but they built a team around Lebron that keeps on losing once again. Meaning if Lebron left the team today then Lakers will become a bad team once again. This is why I believe that we should not be considering Lakers to be a bad team like that right now and should pressure them or at least expect them to be better even without Lebron.

Otherwise this is another team Lebron carried for a ring if it ever happens and at this point I do not expect that much from him. They either fix themselves and get better and find a good way, or they are going to end up being so much worse when it is playoff time.

I have no doubt that the Lakers can play better with or without Lebron, but it looks like they still need time to improve their team chemistry. I guess the Lakers' offense and defense on the court will change a lot throughout the season. Maybe they will even surprise us in the playoffs if their key players are healthy.

It was interesting that Demar Derozan decided to come out and say that he had a sign and trade deal finished with the Lakers in August, but they decided to get Russell Westbrook instead. Given how each of them have performed this season so far, it seemed like Demar was taking the opportunity to twist the knife a little bit about the Lakers making the wrong choice.

Lots of speculation about John Wall suddenly. It's looking like the Rockets might end up dumping him off to whoever wants to deal with him. I'm curious what's going to happen to him once his contract is over. Who knows though, if Chris Paul could get an extension...

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Man, I am still pissed off about that Bulls game last night. I was so excited watching during that first half. Both Lavine and DeRozan were absolutely killing it. I mean silky smooth shots, great passing etc. The defense was on point, I don't think Lillard got any points until a goal tending call was made with something like 5mns left in the 2nd quarter. Then of course the meltdown in the second half and blowing I think was at least an 18pt lead at one point and I believe a 15pt lead at half. I know the team is new, and it takes time to gel, but man this was a frustrating loss! Angry

Well Dame started to get his outside shooting going, I know man, I have the Bulls at ML and I also thought that they are on the way on winning that game until that last 7 minutes of the game.

And that's all the matter for Dame, once he got started, it's hard to stop them. Give credit to Lavine and DeRozan again, they carry the Bulls but it's not enough to win against Portland in their homecourt.

Well, we can't deny the fact that the Bulls are doing great early this season, but that doesn't mean they're unbeatable. Dame just outshined the Bulls scoring leaders, and it happens to other games too where a team was performing really good but 1 man could lead the other team to beat them.
It's no surprise Lillard has always been the front man in Portland and he's offensive capabilities can beat a good team anytime.
And yeah you're right, when Lillard is on fire he might be too hot to handle throughout the game.

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Quote from: TheGreatPython on November 18, 2021, 04:20:52 PM

.... but they built a team around Lebron

Funny how you said that since what happened was more like they built a team that can still win even without Lebron or when he's injured. You don't "build" a team around your superstar and fill the roster with mostly veterans. It's not balanced and it looked like a desperate move after what happened to them last season.

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Quote from: TheGreatPython on November 18, 2021, 04:20:52 PM

Another loss for Lakers, things are not looking great at all. I get that Lebron is missing and Lebron is by far their best player no matter how old he is, but they built a team around Lebron that keeps on losing once again. Meaning if Lebron left the team today then Lakers will become a bad team once again. This is why I believe that we should not be considering Lakers to be a bad team like that right now and should pressure them or at least expect them to be better even without Lebron.

Otherwise this is another team Lebron carried for a ring if it ever happens and at this point I do not expect that much from him. They either fix themselves and get better and find a good way, or they are going to end up being so much worse when it is playoff time.

I have no doubt that the Lakers can play better with or without Lebron, but it looks like they still need time to improve their team chemistry. I guess the Lakers' offense and defense on the court will change a lot throughout the season. Maybe they will even surprise us in the playoffs if their key players are healthy.

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Quote from: ChiBitCTy on November 18, 2021, 09:50:07 AM

Man, I am still pissed off about that Bulls game last night. I was so excited watching during that first half. Both Lavine and DeRozan were absolutely killing it. I mean silky smooth shots, great passing etc. The defense was on point, I don't think Lillard got any points until a goal tending call was made with something like 5mns left in the 2nd quarter. Then of course the meltdown in the second half and blowing I think was at least an 18pt lead at one point and I believe a 15pt lead at half. I know the team is new, and it takes time to gel, but man this was a frustrating loss! Angry

For sure, but it is good to see Dame play well as well.

He has been in a bit of a slump over the last few games, and hopefully this game gets the Trail Blazers going a bit.

But the bulls are very, very exciting as a team.

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Quote from: ChiBitCTy on November 18, 2021, 09:50:07 AM

Man, I am still pissed off about that Bulls game last night. I was so excited watching during that first half. Both Lavine and DeRozan were absolutely killing it. I mean silky smooth shots, great passing etc. The defense was on point, I don't think Lillard got any points until a goal tending call was made with something like 5mns left in the 2nd quarter. Then of course the meltdown in the second half and blowing I think was at least an 18pt lead at one point and I believe a 15pt lead at half. I know the team is new, and it takes time to gel, but man this was a frustrating loss! Angry

Well Dame started to get his outside shooting going, I know man, I have the Bulls at ML and I also thought that they are on the way on winning that game until that last 7 minutes of the game.

And that's all the matter for Dame, once he got started, it's hard to stop them. Give credit to Lavine and DeRozan again, they carry the Bulls but it's not enough to win against Portland in their homecourt.

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Another loss for Lakers, things are not looking great at all. I get that Lebron is missing and Lebron is by far their best player no matter how old he is, but they built a team around Lebron that keeps on losing once again. Meaning if Lebron left the team today then Lakers will become a bad team once again. This is why I believe that we should not be considering Lakers to be a bad team like that right now and should pressure them or at least expect them to be better even without Lebron.

Otherwise this is another team Lebron carried for a ring if it ever happens and at this point I do not expect that much from him. They either fix themselves and get better and find a good way, or they are going to end up being so much worse when it is playoff time.

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Quote from: Questat on November 18, 2021, 12:50:54 AM

Yeah, another loss by the Lakers, they don't shoot so bad but unfortunately, they cannot stop Giannis who scored 47 points this game.
This is the Bucks that won the championship last season, they have Middleton back already so it's really a tough challenge for the Lakers to beat them on
their home.

this is a pretty fierce match regardless of who wins I want to commend both teams here because indeed both teams played quite well.
and the loss of the lackers does not mean they play badly, but indeed the bucks appear quite consistent.
actually in the 3rd quarter I hoped the lackers could reverse the position but everything was destroyed by Giannis who did look very good in this match

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Quote from: Yamifoud on November 18, 2021, 08:12:35 AM

They are much better with Irving, he is very consistent and since they already build chemistry, it will be easier for them to win.

There are no rumors yet as to when Irving will return but I hope he keeps practicing with his teams so if unvaccinated players are already allowed, he can play right away because he is already fit. sometimes I think it's good that Irving will rest as the Nets will need him very much to be healthy in the playoffs.

Good point, Nets needs him the most during the next round preserving him for now and let both KD and Harden to work.

As long as Kyrie is practicing with the team, the system will continue to work for them.
a healthy Kyrie, Harden and KD in the second round would likely be a team to beat.

They almost have it last season, they can try it again this time and the chance is better
if all of them are healthy and playing together.

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Man, I am still pissed off about that Bulls game last night. I was so excited watching during that first half. Both Lavine and DeRozan were absolutely killing it. I mean silky smooth shots, great passing etc. The defense was on point, I don't think Lillard got any points until a goal tending call was made with something like 5mns left in the 2nd quarter. Then of course the meltdown in the second half and blowing I think was at least an 18pt lead at one point and I believe a 15pt lead at half. I know the team is new, and it takes time to gel, but man this was a frustrating loss! Angry

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Quote from: Reid on November 18, 2021, 07:21:15 AM

Cavs seems to have a fighting chance against the Nets or is it just the Nets are having another bad day?
That third quarter was when the Cavs almost got near the lead and I saw Harden being really bad at his position as point.
You can see obvious dimes that was always intercepted by the guy defending him. I think Coach Nash should change some of his strategies.
Harden should not always handle the ball whenever he is on the floor. Mix it up to lessen the turnovers. Make him shoot more.

Cavs would have had a better chance with mobley under center as well. The 7 foot kid is going to be a star in the league, he has a good feel for the game. Nets were too much for them without mobley.

And knicks what a terrible couple of games. 6 games in a row they came out in the third quarter and got outscored. How can they not come out of half fired up, the energy just isn't there. Their second team with obi, q and drose has been much better than the starting crew. This needs to shake up this team.

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I may be late on the parade but the game between the Dubs and the Nets showcased on how the former is just on a different level on their team chemistry and skill. Along with the amazing performance of Curry, Wiggins definitely stepped-up and showed that he is continuously improving his game. You can witness his confidence in taking difficult shoes and able to execute them very well.

The game between GSW and Hornets, while the former lost, showed that they are not invincible. The chemistry of Hornets was the key to their success. Rozier made a significant impact on the last few minutes on the 4th quarter that sealed the game for them.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on November 18, 2021, 07:51:24 AM

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Quote from: Reid on November 18, 2021, 07:21:15 AM

Cavs seems to have a fighting chance against the Nets or is it just the Nets are having another bad day?
That third quarter was when the Cavs almost got near the lead and I saw Harden being really bad at his position as point.
You can see obvious dimes that was always intercepted by the guy defending him. I think Coach Nash should change some of his strategies.
Harden should not always handle the ball whenever he is on the floor. Mix it up to lessen the turnovers. Make him shoot more.

If they only have Irving playing, Harden does not need to carry the ball.

Harden was effective in handling the ball but since he cannot anymore fish a lot of fouls, his production has already been affected.
What's important in that game is that the Nets won, they have some struggle within the game but they still finish it strong, and by the way, don't forget that the Cavaliers is also a decent team this season.

If they only have Irving, but the Nets have managed to win games without him already.

Harden is still effective though, he can still go shoot for 3's. And if he really wanted to go to the free throws, all he has to do is penetrate.

I do agree though, Cavaliers is very different team this season, and even without Kevin Love, they've always fought very hard and win close games.

They are much better with Irving, he is very consistent and since they already build chemistry, it will be easier for them to win.

There are no rumors yet as to when Irving will return but I hope he keeps practicing with his teams so if unvaccinated players are already allowed, he can play right away because he is already fit. sometimes I think it's good that Irving will rest as the Nets will need him very much to be healthy in the playoffs.

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Quote from: Russlenat on November 18, 2021, 07:42:49 AM

Quote from: Reid on November 18, 2021, 07:21:15 AM

Cavs seems to have a fighting chance against the Nets or is it just the Nets are having another bad day?
That third quarter was when the Cavs almost got near the lead and I saw Harden being really bad at his position as point.
You can see obvious dimes that was always intercepted by the guy defending him. I think Coach Nash should change some of his strategies.
Harden should not always handle the ball whenever he is on the floor. Mix it up to lessen the turnovers. Make him shoot more.

If they only have Irving playing, Harden does not need to carry the ball.

Harden was effective in handling the ball but since he cannot anymore fish a lot of fouls, his production has already been affected.
What's important in that game is that the Nets won, they have some struggle within the game but they still finish it strong, and by the way, don't forget that the Cavaliers is also a decent team this season.

If they only have Irving, but the Nets have managed to win games without him already.

Harden is still effective though, he can still go shoot for 3's. And if he really wanted to go to the free throws, all he has to do is penetrate.

I do agree though, Cavaliers is very different team this season, and even without Kevin Love, they've always fought very hard and win close games.

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Quote from: Reid on November 18, 2021, 07:21:15 AM

Cavs seems to have a fighting chance against the Nets or is it just the Nets are having another bad day?
That third quarter was when the Cavs almost got near the lead and I saw Harden being really bad at his position as point.
You can see obvious dimes that was always intercepted by the guy defending him. I think Coach Nash should change some of his strategies.
Harden should not always handle the ball whenever he is on the floor. Mix it up to lessen the turnovers. Make him shoot more.

If they only have Irving playing, Harden does not need to carry the ball.

Harden was effective in handling the ball but since he cannot anymore fish a lot of fouls, his production has already been affected.
What's important in that game is that the Nets won, they have some struggle within the game but they still finish it strong, and by the way, don't forget that the Cavaliers is also a decent team this season.

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Cavs seems to have a fighting chance against the Nets or is it just the Nets are having another bad day?
That third quarter was when the Cavs almost got near the lead and I saw Harden being really bad at his position as point.
You can see obvious dimes that was always intercepted by the guy defending him. I think Coach Nash should change some of his strategies.
Harden should not always handle the ball whenever he is on the floor. Mix it up to lessen the turnovers. Make him shoot more.

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This is the only game that has the best ending earlier because they managed to secure their winning streak even though they were behind until the late minutes of the 4th quarter but Booker's three in the last 2 minutes has sealed the game to get their 10 winning streaks and the Phoenix Suns are likely joining the NBA playoffs this season.

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