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Quote from: OgNasty on November 19, 2021, 09:42:36 PM

LeBron is having a great game but the Lakers are getting destroyed in the paint. They’re being outscored 2 to 1 in the key and outrebounded by 10. All this and Dwight Howard had as many rebounds as anyone with only 1/4 of the minutes played… This is painful to watch. I think Vogel’s days are numbered. He might not be coaching the Lakers in the playoffs if he can’t figure out how to take this roster to a better than 500 record.

Honestly Lakers needs to do something about their situation or they are going to be humiliated again during playoff time. I get that it takes time for a team to build chemistry and learn how to play together, and I get that they have a lot of old players who are trying to learn their ways and its harder for them to change their style to fit the systems mold but this is getting horrible.

Now, they are under .500 and that is a horrible look for them, this team was built to dominate the league in mind and right now let alone dominating they are not even looking good, they are below average at the very best case. This needs to change for them to actually do what they were expected to do.

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What do you think? Will he get another MVP award this season?

This is one of the best season of Curry and his performance is superb, not only that, the impact to the team is always good as the Warriors are currently sitting at the top now, so no doubt that Curry could win another MVP award as long as he keeps himself healthy this season.

It's now Curry - 1st, Durant - 2nd, Giannis - 3rd, Jokic - 4th, Doncic - 5th.
A big change from what was expected before the season starts where Luka Doncic was on the top. But I am still waiting for the Luka Magic. He is still there and may need to just step up his game a little bit when he comes back from his ankle injury. Average of triple-double with his points at 20-30 per game. Although, if he really wants to win the Season MVP race, he will need more than that. Because Curry is trying to lengthen the gap between them with his monster games.

Luka is quite less productive now because KP is doing better this season. He is sharing the ball with his fellow star player on the team and that's why they are also winning. I like that way as it's very important in the playoffs that both of them have a good chemistry since the team relies on them to win.

Luka KP reminds of Jason Kidd and Dirk Nowitzki dynasty, If Porzingis proceeds to be this productive through the whole season then Luka won't have to put up huge numbers just to win, it's not technically making Luka less productive but having help from his team would really be great.

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Quote from: OgNasty on November 19, 2021, 09:42:36 PM

LeBron is having a great game but the Lakers are getting destroyed in the paint. They’re being outscored 2 to 1 in the key and outrebounded by 10. All this and Dwight Howard had as many rebounds as anyone with only 1/4 of the minutes played… This is painful to watch. I think Vogel’s days are numbered. He might not be coaching the Lakers in the playoffs if he can’t figure out how to take this roster to a better than 500 record.

Howard plays well, but the problem is he clearly doesn't get enough minutes on the court during this season. Honesty, I do not understand this Vogel's decision. I guess it would be better if coach Vogel started to use Howard as the main center and moved Davis to power forward position in starting lineup.

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What do you think? Will he get another MVP award this season?

This is one of the best season of Curry and his performance is superb, not only that, the impact to the team is always good as the Warriors are currently sitting at the top now, so no doubt that Curry could win another MVP award as long as he keeps himself healthy this season.

It's now Curry - 1st, Durant - 2nd, Giannis - 3rd, Jokic - 4th, Doncic - 5th.
A big change from what was expected before the season starts where Luka Doncic was on the top. But I am still waiting for the Luka Magic. He is still there and may need to just step up his game a little bit when he comes back from his ankle injury. Average of triple-double with his points at 20-30 per game. Although, if he really wants to win the Season MVP race, he will need more than that. Because Curry is trying to lengthen the gap between them with his monster games.

Luka is quite less productive now because KP is doing better this season. He is sharing the ball with his fellow star player on the team and that's why they are also winning. I like that way as it's very important in the playoffs that both of them have a good chemistry since the team relies on them to win.

Luka though is still injured so it's obvious that KP should take over this time.

Unfortunately, they have a good chance to upset the Suns as they lead most of the games and I thought that they are going to pull an upset win.

However, the Suns put up a good defence in the fourth, Booker and Bridges help them come back from the game and outscoring them by 13 points in the 4th quarter.

The Suns continue to win, they beat the Mavericks in their 2 games. Without Luka, Dallas are still a good team but playing against the Suns undermanned, I think they don't stand a chance because the Suns are the defending WCF champion and they are in a big mission this season.

Many of us are focusing so much on the Warriors team that we forgot that the Suns team are in a 11 game winning streak.

CP3 just doing CP3 things. Scoring and on the other hand passing and in fact he is averaging 10.7 assists per game. Looks like getting another big like McGee helped the team a lot because he can fulfill what Ayton can do at least on the defensive end. He is also scoring and getting rebounds. That is what Suns are lacking last season and now that they have one, I'm thinking that they will have another shot at the championship again. What do you think?

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What do you think? Will he get another MVP award this season?

This is one of the best season of Curry and his performance is superb, not only that, the impact to the team is always good as the Warriors are currently sitting at the top now, so no doubt that Curry could win another MVP award as long as he keeps himself healthy this season.

It's now Curry - 1st, Durant - 2nd, Giannis - 3rd, Jokic - 4th, Doncic - 5th.
A big change from what was expected before the season starts where Luka Doncic was on the top. But I am still waiting for the Luka Magic. He is still there and may need to just step up his game a little bit when he comes back from his ankle injury. Average of triple-double with his points at 20-30 per game. Although, if he really wants to win the Season MVP race, he will need more than that. Because Curry is trying to lengthen the gap between them with his monster games.

Luka is quite less productive now because KP is doing better this season. He is sharing the ball with his fellow star player on the team and that's why they are also winning. I like that way as it's very important in the playoffs that both of them have a good chemistry since the team relies on them to win.

Luka though is still injured so it's obvious that KP should take over this time.

Unfortunately, they have a good chance to upset the Suns as they lead most of the games and I thought that they are going to pull an upset win.

However, the Suns put up a good defence in the fourth, Booker and Bridges help them come back from the game and outscoring them by 13 points in the 4th quarter.

The Suns continue to win, they beat the Mavericks in their 2 games. Without Luka, Dallas are still a good team but playing against the Suns undermanned, I think they don't stand a chance because the Suns are the defending WCF champion and they are in a big mission this season.

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What do you think? Will he get another MVP award this season?

This is one of the best season of Curry and his performance is superb, not only that, the impact to the team is always good as the Warriors are currently sitting at the top now, so no doubt that Curry could win another MVP award as long as he keeps himself healthy this season.

It's now Curry - 1st, Durant - 2nd, Giannis - 3rd, Jokic - 4th, Doncic - 5th.
A big change from what was expected before the season starts where Luka Doncic was on the top. But I am still waiting for the Luka Magic. He is still there and may need to just step up his game a little bit when he comes back from his ankle injury. Average of triple-double with his points at 20-30 per game. Although, if he really wants to win the Season MVP race, he will need more than that. Because Curry is trying to lengthen the gap between them with his monster games.

Luka is quite less productive now because KP is doing better this season. He is sharing the ball with his fellow star player on the team and that's why they are also winning. I like that way as it's very important in the playoffs that both of them have a good chemistry since the team relies on them to win.

Luka though is still injured so it's obvious that KP should take over this time.

Unfortunately, they have a good chance to upset the Suns as they lead most of the games and I thought that they are going to pull an upset win.

However, the Suns put up a good defence in the fourth, Booker and Bridges help them come back from the game and outscoring them by 13 points in the 4th quarter.

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Quote from: Russlenat on November 19, 2021, 07:52:37 AM

Quote from: LogitechMouse on November 19, 2021, 07:20:23 AM

What do you think? Will he get another MVP award this season?

This is one of the best season of Curry and his performance is superb, not only that, the impact to the team is always good as the Warriors are currently sitting at the top now, so no doubt that Curry could win another MVP award as long as he keeps himself healthy this season.

It's now Curry - 1st, Durant - 2nd, Giannis - 3rd, Jokic - 4th, Doncic - 5th.
A big change from what was expected before the season starts where Luka Doncic was on the top. But I am still waiting for the Luka Magic. He is still there and may need to just step up his game a little bit when he comes back from his ankle injury. Average of triple-double with his points at 20-30 per game. Although, if he really wants to win the Season MVP race, he will need more than that. Because Curry is trying to lengthen the gap between them with his monster games.

Luka is quite less productive now because KP is doing better this season. He is sharing the ball with his fellow star player on the team and that's why they are also winning. I like that way as it's very important in the playoffs that both of them have a good chemistry since the team relies on them to win.

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Quote from: OgNasty on November 19, 2021, 09:42:36 PM

LeBron is having a great game but the Lakers are getting destroyed in the paint. They’re being outscored 2 to 1 in the key and outrebounded by 10. All this and Dwight Howard had as many rebounds as anyone with only 1/4 of the minutes played… This is painful to watch. I think Vogel’s days are numbered. He might not be coaching the Lakers in the playoffs if he can’t figure out how to take this roster to a better than 500 record.

For sure Schroder is laughing right now at the Lakers with what happened Cheesy

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5 of the Celtics are in double digits and Tatum just have a good night with this. 37 points and 11 rebounds and he is the top rebounder in the Celtics and the top rebounder in the Lakers is Davis with only 6. I mean I agree with what you said that they destroyed the Lakers inside. 56 points in the paint by the Celtics while Lakers only has 36. Lakers has taller players and yet this happen and their defense is horrible that they allow the Celtics to score 130 points :X. It seems that we are expecting too much with the Lakers this season don't we?

Chemistry in defense. That's what they lack.
I think the dispute of Anthony Davis and Dwight Howard weeks ago was because of the defense. They are not communicating who will defend who and thats why they are leaving the paint open.
It can still be fixed because all of them have the defensive skills but without communication I don't think they will ever win another game even against Houston or OKC.
Maybe Schroder is really glad he is not on the same team who are on the media and critics spotlight this season. Grin

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Quote from: OgNasty on November 19, 2021, 09:42:36 PM

LeBron is having a great game but the Lakers are getting destroyed in the paint. They’re being outscored 2 to 1 in the key and outrebounded by 10. All this and Dwight Howard had as many rebounds as anyone with only 1/4 of the minutes played… This is painful to watch. I think Vogel’s days are numbered. He might not be coaching the Lakers in the playoffs if he can’t figure out how to take this roster to a better than 500 record.

For sure Schroder is laughing right now at the Lakers with what happened Cheesy

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5 of the Celtics are in double digits and Tatum just have a good night with this. 37 points and 11 rebounds and he is the top rebounder in the Celtics and the top rebounder in the Lakers is Davis with only 6. I mean I agree with what you said that they destroyed the Lakers inside. 56 points in the paint by the Celtics while Lakers only has 36. Lakers has taller players and yet this happen and their defense is horrible that they allow the Celtics to score 130 points :X. It seems that we are expecting too much with the Lakers this season don't we?

Exactly, they refused to sign Schroder with the amount he demanded and look at Westbrook now, he isn't the superstar the Lakers are expecting, there's no chemistry and they are even better before the trade. Embarrassed

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Quote from: OgNasty on November 19, 2021, 09:42:36 PM

LeBron is having a great game but the Lakers are getting destroyed in the paint. They’re being outscored 2 to 1 in the key and outrebounded by 10. All this and Dwight Howard had as many rebounds as anyone with only 1/4 of the minutes played… This is painful to watch. I think Vogel’s days are numbered. He might not be coaching the Lakers in the playoffs if he can’t figure out how to take this roster to a better than 500 record.

For sure Schroder is laughing right now at the Lakers with what happened Cheesy

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5 of the Celtics are in double digits and Tatum just have a good night with this. 37 points and 11 rebounds and he is the top rebounder in the Celtics and the top rebounder in the Lakers is Davis with only 6. I mean I agree with what you said that they destroyed the Lakers inside. 56 points in the paint by the Celtics while Lakers only has 36. Lakers has taller players and yet this happen and their defense is horrible that they allow the Celtics to score 130 points :X. It seems that we are expecting too much with the Lakers this season don't we?

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I can't remember anymore the opening odds for MVP but I'm sure Curry is not even in the top 3.

I am also trying to remember the first odds when I shared the updated one. IIRC, yes he is not even in the top 4 because it was Luka, Nikola, Durant, and Giannis in that position.
But they will have to keep these stats if they want to stay on top. Because there are players below them that are pushing their limits to snatch that MVP award away from them. One of those players is Paul George. He is healthy and plays 35+ minutes per game and shoulders everything for the Clippers' offense. Now at the top 8 of the MVP race averaging 26/7/5 at 29.6 odds to win it.
If his consistency stays and avoided an injury or a health protocol then he will overtake most of the players at the top 5.

I can only remember Luka at the top pick for the MVP at the beginning and true Curry is not even in the top 3 or top 5.

And speaking of Warriors, no Curry, no Draymond? no problem, Jordan Poole and Wiggins carry the team against the Detroit Pistons.

It was not an easy game though, and I don't think that the Warriors has covered the initial spread of -6.5. But still impressive win without their 2 superstars in the roster.

Yes, it is expected that Jordan Poople and Wiggins will carry the load for the Warriors in absence of Curry. This is just a glimpse on how dangerous they really are, still play high level defense even without Draymond and then shot their 3's without Curry.

But it was very close game, Detroit really trying to get a win. But as the announcer said in the beginning, this team is used to winning and that's what they did here, a hard grind win.

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Quote from: stadus on November 19, 2021, 04:20:29 PM

I can't remember anymore the opening odds for MVP but I'm sure Curry is not even in the top 3.

I am also trying to remember the first odds when I shared the updated one. IIRC, yes he is not even in the top 4 because it was Luka, Nikola, Durant, and Giannis in that position.
But they will have to keep these stats if they want to stay on top. Because there are players below them that are pushing their limits to snatch that MVP award away from them. One of those players is Paul George. He is healthy and plays 35+ minutes per game and shoulders everything for the Clippers' offense. Now at the top 8 of the MVP race averaging 26/7/5 at 29.6 odds to win it.
If his consistency stays and avoided an injury or a health protocol then he will overtake most of the players at the top 5.

I can only remember Luka at the top pick for the MVP at the beginning and true Curry is not even in the top 3 or top 5.

And speaking of Warriors, no Curry, no Draymond? no problem, Jordan Poole and Wiggins carry the team against the Detroit Pistons.

It was not an easy game though, and I don't think that the Warriors has covered the initial spread of -6.5. But still impressive win without their 2 superstars in the roster.

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Quote from: stadus on November 19, 2021, 04:20:29 PM

I can't remember anymore the opening odds for MVP but I'm sure Curry is not even in the top 3.

I am also trying to remember the first odds when I shared the updated one. IIRC, yes he is not even in the top 4 because it was Luka, Nikola, Durant, and Giannis in that position.
But they will have to keep these stats if they want to stay on top. Because there are players below them that are pushing their limits to snatch that MVP award away from them. One of those players is Paul George. He is healthy and plays 35+ minutes per game and shoulders everything for the Clippers' offense. Now at the top 8 of the MVP race averaging 26/7/5 at 29.6 odds to win it.
If his consistency stays and avoided an injury or a health protocol then he will overtake most of the players at the top 5.

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LeBron is having a great game but the Lakers are getting destroyed in the paint. They’re being outscored 2 to 1 in the key and outrebounded by 10. All this and Dwight Howard had as many rebounds as anyone with only 1/4 of the minutes played… This is painful to watch. I think Vogel’s days are numbered. He might not be coaching the Lakers in the playoffs if he can’t figure out how to take this roster to a better than 500 record.

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Warriors is like a well-oiled machine and they are playing with talent but more importantly they are team playing which is the greatest threat to every team. They are so good all together that you forget about CURRY, which I know is insane but watch them, everyone wants to defend Curry then they play the ball around so much that you forget to check Curry for a milisecond and dude is running around so much and finds open space once again. It is really something amazing to watch, it is basketball as it should be played and I really love to see their musical play style.

You're right. The Warriors have become much better as a team especially compared to the previous season. By the way, I wonder how their game will change when Thompson comes back. As far as I know, Klay has been already playing 5 on 5 during practices. I assume that he will be able to return in 2-3 weeks, although there is still no exact date of his return.

That's something to get done by the coaching staff but I guess it will be doing just fine since as far as I can see the gameplay they got right now aren't different from the season when the team was playing at their best. I think he'll have to create a chemistry but as I just said I guess he'll doing just fine, they still at that offense as the best defense.

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Quote from: fullhdpixel on November 19, 2021, 04:45:00 PM

Warriors is like a well-oiled machine and they are playing with talent but more importantly they are team playing which is the greatest threat to every team. They are so good all together that you forget about CURRY, which I know is insane but watch them, everyone wants to defend Curry then they play the ball around so much that you forget to check Curry for a milisecond and dude is running around so much and finds open space once again. It is really something amazing to watch, it is basketball as it should be played and I really love to see their musical play style.

You're right. The Warriors have become much better as a team especially compared to the previous season. By the way, I wonder how their game will change when Thompson comes back. As far as I know, Klay has been already playing 5 on 5 during practices. I assume that he will be able to return in 2-3 weeks, although there is still no exact date of his return.

I'm seeing that there will be no immediate impact when Klay returns. For sure he will be in restricted minutes in the beginning. Maybe just 10-15 minutes, few touches, 3 points just it.

But as the Warriors goes along, he may be inserted in the line up often to began his journey of a comeback as a starting 5. So still the Warriors, with the way they are playing high basketball, are a scary team when Klay comes back scoring at least 20 points a game. They could be the top 1-2, currently, it's Lavine and DeRozan.

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Quote from: dwyane36 on November 19, 2021, 06:19:20 PM

Quote from: fullhdpixel on November 19, 2021, 04:45:00 PM

Warriors is like a well-oiled machine and they are playing with talent but more importantly they are team playing which is the greatest threat to every team. They are so good all together that you forget about CURRY, which I know is insane but watch them, everyone wants to defend Curry then they play the ball around so much that you forget to check Curry for a milisecond and dude is running around so much and finds open space once again. It is really something amazing to watch, it is basketball as it should be played and I really love to see their musical play style.

You're right. The Warriors have become much better as a team especially compared to the previous season. By the way, I wonder how their game will change when Thompson comes back. As far as I know, Klay has been already playing 5 on 5 during practices. I assume that he will be able to return in 2-3 weeks, although there is still no exact date of his return.

It's going to be scary, man.

Klay is a great player and a central piece to the Warriors identity, but the best thing about him is that he doesn't need the ball in his hands to make an immediate impact.

He brings a lot more championship potential given the reunion of Steph, Klay and Draymond from their earlier championship run.

The people helping Steph win games right now don't necessarily have that, despite their great record so far.

Beyond excited for his return.

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Quote from: fullhdpixel on November 19, 2021, 04:45:00 PM

Warriors is like a well-oiled machine and they are playing with talent but more importantly they are team playing which is the greatest threat to every team. They are so good all together that you forget about CURRY, which I know is insane but watch them, everyone wants to defend Curry then they play the ball around so much that you forget to check Curry for a milisecond and dude is running around so much and finds open space once again. It is really something amazing to watch, it is basketball as it should be played and I really love to see their musical play style.

You're right. The Warriors have become much better as a team especially compared to the previous season. By the way, I wonder how their game will change when Thompson comes back. As far as I know, Klay has been already playing 5 on 5 during practices. I assume that he will be able to return in 2-3 weeks, although there is still no exact date of his return.

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It's now Curry - 1st, Durant - 2nd, Giannis - 3rd, Jokic - 4th, Doncic - 5th.
A big change from what was expected before the season starts where Luka Doncic was on the top. But I am still waiting for the Luka Magic. He is still there and may need to just step up his game a little bit when he comes back from his ankle injury. Average of triple-double with his points at 20-30 per game. Although, if he really wants to win the Season MVP race, he will need more than that. Because Curry is trying to lengthen the gap between them with his monster games.

Unless Steph gets injured, I don't see him stepping down from that 1st place.

I think that whilst Doncic is still doing really well with the Mavs, their record is just incomparable to the Warriors.

Plus, Doncic is actually averaging less points in this season than his overall career, which is definitely strange.

Yeah I agree. I'm a Mavs fan and even I've got to admit that Doncic is nowhere near Steph this season.

Curry is absolutely cooking and putting up ridiculous numbers on a nightly basis in shooting displays that we haven't seen before. And he's making everyone around him a whole lot better, including Andrew Wiggins, Jordan Poole, etc. who are playing like veterans out there.

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Quote from: Russlenat on November 19, 2021, 07:52:37 AM

Quote from: LogitechMouse on November 19, 2021, 07:20:23 AM

What do you think? Will he get another MVP award this season?

This is one of the best season of Curry and his performance is superb, not only that, the impact to the team is always good as the Warriors are currently sitting at the top now, so no doubt that Curry could win another MVP award as long as he keeps himself healthy this season.

It's now Curry - 1st, Durant - 2nd, Giannis - 3rd, Jokic - 4th, Doncic - 5th.
A big change from what was expected before the season starts where Luka Doncic was on the top. But I am still waiting for the Luka Magic. He is still there and may need to just step up his game a little bit when he comes back from his ankle injury. Average of triple-double with his points at 20-30 per game. Although, if he really wants to win the Season MVP race, he will need more than that. Because Curry is trying to lengthen the gap between them with his monster games.

Right, it the beginning, or prior to the season, it was Luka who are the favourite to win the MVP awards.

But Curry having another 2 good straight seasons, last year he won the scoring honours, and now it seems that he is again on the way. He already did break Ray Allen's record this early and maybe putting numbers that will be hard to touch in the coming years.

If Steph and the Warriors will maintain this kind of level of playing, then maybe we can see Steph running with MVP this year (although still too early to say). But with the way he is playing, that's already MVP caliber numbers.

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