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September 18, 2021, 06:21:50 PM
Question is, what team would be interested in Irving?

The rumor is Simmons is interested, and I think it's good because they need to improve their defense, but I just thought of this, what if they will need a PG,
I mean a real PG, and the Blazers would be willing to trade Lillard for Irving, will the Nets accept him?

Irving would love to play with the Nets but it seems that the management wanted to trade him, there's a rumor that he would retire if he gets traded, so that really says that he doesn't want to be moved from his current team, he wants to end his contract with the Nets, but not sure if they'll finally win a championship in the coming season because of what is happening inside.

Well, I've been out of the NBA news, but are there any rumors that Kyrie could be traded and move to another team?
Is this serious?

Look if Irving is healthy and being a "team player" and fulfilling his goals, I have no doubt the 76ers or Blazzers will make a great choice trading Simmons or Lillard for Kyrie.

Lillard is an excellent player, but if Kyrie is dedicated and strives to be an excellent player like he was before (perhaps in the LeBron/Kyrie era) I believe he could even be superior to Lillard (this is my opinion)

Look, I don't know what's been going on with Kyrie lately, I don't know if he's having issues with depression, family issues or issues with himself, regarding his ego.
Because, unfortunately, from the moment he decided to brag and be the star of the team, his performance is only dropping with the passage of time, since the 2016 title with Cleveland he has never been the same.

It's not that I think it's wrong for him to want to improve and be the highlight of the team, but I think he became so obsessed with it, that he ended up harming himself, unfortunately!

You can now remove Damian Lillard on the speculation and rumor of yours since he already cleared that he will still play for the Portland Trail Blazers in the upcoming season. But he takes note that things might change along the way so him transferring to another team is possible during the season if Blazers will have a slow run or their roster won't change or improved.

Irving-Simmons trade won't happen. The Sixers aren't interested in Kyrie and there is not much space cap on the Sixers. I think that's the reason why they are still left hanging if they will trade Simmons because they are not receiving a decent offer. Simmon's value decreases after the choked performance last playoffs and he pointed out it's not his job to make his trade value increase during the trading season which is correct. If Sixers want to get rid of Simmon's don't expect a superstar trade in return.
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September 18, 2021, 06:04:41 PM
Question is, what team would be interested in Irving?

The rumor is Simmons is interested, and I think it's good because they need to improve their defense, but I just thought of this, what if they will need a PG,
I mean a real PG, and the Blazers would be willing to trade Lillard for Irving, will the Nets accept him?

Irving would love to play with the Nets but it seems that the management wanted to trade him, there's a rumor that he would retire if he gets traded, so that really says that he doesn't want to be moved from his current team, he wants to end his contract with the Nets, but not sure if they'll finally win a championship in the coming season because of what is happening inside.

Well, I've been out of the NBA news, but are there any rumors that Kyrie could be traded and move to another team?
Is this serious?

Look if Irving is healthy and being a "team player" and fulfilling his goals, I have no doubt the 76ers or Blazzers will make a great choice trading Simmons or Lillard for Kyrie.

Lillard is an excellent player, but if Kyrie is dedicated and strives to be an excellent player like he was before (perhaps in the LeBron/Kyrie era) I believe he could even be superior to Lillard (this is my opinion)

Look, I don't know what's been going on with Kyrie lately, I don't know if he's having issues with depression, family issues or issues with himself, regarding his ego.
Because, unfortunately, from the moment he decided to brag and be the star of the team, his performance is only dropping with the passage of time, since the 2016 title with Cleveland he has never been the same.

It's not that I think it's wrong for him to want to improve and be the highlight of the team, but I think he became so obsessed with it, that he ended up harming himself, unfortunately!

There is not a chance in the world Portland trades Lillard for Kylie who is a constant headache.  That doesn't make Portland better.  Only way Dame gets traded its for a boatload of top future picks. 
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September 18, 2021, 05:59:33 PM
^^, Yup, that the farthest they got with, unfortunately, Kawhi ended their dreams. And the next year, we hope that they can get over that hump, but Joel got injured, and then Simmons choking against the Hawks. So we can say that the process is no longer there, or the Joel-Ben tandem is about to end now. And now they have to start with stage 2, Joel-??? and see what kind of achievement they will get.
Why not try Embiid-Curry Grin  and that possible trade for Simmons to work with Harris and Green, Sixers still have lots of good players and with the addition of Drummond which will help them more inside, this twin tower can play alongside instead of Drummond being a backup the way Howard did last season.

The drama for Simmons still up and new rumors that Sixers are more interested in Rubio instead of love. If the deal from Cavaliers will proceed, Sixers is eyeing for Rubio. Maybe they are looking for PG replacement since Simmons mostly played that position for them.

This would be sick, to be honest, Grin Though I'd prefer Joel to play for the GS. Let's say bring Joel in return for Wiggins, Green and Bjelica. GS has an otto-porter so I guess that would fill up Green's position, plus they lack a center to start with I guess Joel would be a good fit.

For Sixer-Cavs, I'd say go for Rubio. Simmons is a hell of a cry-baby, with Rubio instead of Love that would be a game-changer for the Sixers. A well-rounded PG with outside shooting it's a steal for them.
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September 18, 2021, 05:06:34 PM
Question is, what team would be interested in Irving?

The rumor is Simmons is interested, and I think it's good because they need to improve their defense, but I just thought of this, what if they will need a PG,
I mean a real PG, and the Blazers would be willing to trade Lillard for Irving, will the Nets accept him?

Irving would love to play with the Nets but it seems that the management wanted to trade him, there's a rumor that he would retire if he gets traded, so that really says that he doesn't want to be moved from his current team, he wants to end his contract with the Nets, but not sure if they'll finally win a championship in the coming season because of what is happening inside.

Well, I've been out of the NBA news, but are there any rumors that Kyrie could be traded and move to another team?
Is this serious?

Look if Irving is healthy and being a "team player" and fulfilling his goals, I have no doubt the 76ers or Blazzers will make a great choice trading Simmons or Lillard for Kyrie.

Lillard is an excellent player, but if Kyrie is dedicated and strives to be an excellent player like he was before (perhaps in the LeBron/Kyrie era) I believe he could even be superior to Lillard (this is my opinion)

Look, I don't know what's been going on with Kyrie lately, I don't know if he's having issues with depression, family issues or issues with himself, regarding his ego.
Because, unfortunately, from the moment he decided to brag and be the star of the team, his performance is only dropping with the passage of time, since the 2016 title with Cleveland he has never been the same.

It's not that I think it's wrong for him to want to improve and be the highlight of the team, but I think he became so obsessed with it, that he ended up harming himself, unfortunately!
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September 18, 2021, 04:50:35 PM
^^ And this this case, it will be Durant that will lead that team and not Kyrie.

But what I see with Kyrie since he left the Cavs is that he wanted to be the alpha of the team, like in the Celtics uniform, he try to be a leader, but it seems he lack that. He shows frustrations when Celtics lost and blame his team mates for that. And with the Nets, he has Durant, so he can't take over, he gets injured, and early he didn't play and even not communicated with coach Nash. Such actions doesn't sit well with the management and the team.
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September 18, 2021, 02:51:05 PM
Still a rumor and there's no update regarding to this possible trades.
If ever Sixers will agree and they will let go of Simmon for Irving, both will benefit,
Kyrie, if he will adjust with his attitude, can help Sixers to climb up and have a good chance of winning either conference or world title.
Same with the Nets, Simmons can definitely help KD and Harden, Ben is a good defensive stopper focusing on that role is a good
help since both KD and Harden are healthy coming this season, they can share ball and dominate their offenses.
Both good player in terms of there role and skills. But personality is another thing. You are right about Kyrie, He is a bit self centered that's why he can't work properly with star player. Simmons will be a perfect for his position because he can definitely adjust for KD and Harden since he is a rookie compared to Kyrie. While on the other hand, Kyrie might play a very good performance with Sixers due to less competition. This will be a good trade if this really happen.

Irving has been one of my favourite players since he was in Cleveland Cavaliers. He is a very good point guard with decent scoring and very good dribbling skills, also his passing is very good. I feel like he would set very well with the Sixers. And having KD and Harden on offense and Ben Simmons on defense will be a plus point for the Nets. Hope this trade goes off and both the teams benefit both the teams.

No one would deny how skillful Irving is, but the problem is probably his attitude towards his teammates that's why the team will not succeed. I read some article in the past that Irving left the Cavaliers as he doesn't want to be the shadow of Lebron, so now, probably he also wants to be the leader of the team which is obviously is not because Durant is better than him.

I dunno, I respectfully disagree here. Kyrie has already won a championship, and of course he had Lebron there with him but it showed goes to show that he is cable of winning it all.  If he sticks with the Nets, and if they can all stay healthy for once, I think they would win the championship no question.  Just my 2

Kyrie better has a good relationship with his teammates so they can win a championship, if there's a conflict inside, it would create bad chemistry and that would not make this team play at their best. Chemistry is really important because they have a  big 3, and they can't just do their thing when in the court, they should do what the coach told them to do and one should be the leader, it's not possible that all of them will lead, just like the Cavaliers, Lebron is always the leader, Irving is his Robin.
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September 18, 2021, 02:42:29 PM
Still a rumor and there's no update regarding to this possible trades.
If ever Sixers will agree and they will let go of Simmon for Irving, both will benefit,
Kyrie, if he will adjust with his attitude, can help Sixers to climb up and have a good chance of winning either conference or world title.
Same with the Nets, Simmons can definitely help KD and Harden, Ben is a good defensive stopper focusing on that role is a good
help since both KD and Harden are healthy coming this season, they can share ball and dominate their offenses.
Both good player in terms of there role and skills. But personality is another thing. You are right about Kyrie, He is a bit self centered that's why he can't work properly with star player. Simmons will be a perfect for his position because he can definitely adjust for KD and Harden since he is a rookie compared to Kyrie. While on the other hand, Kyrie might play a very good performance with Sixers due to less competition. This will be a good trade if this really happen.

Irving has been one of my favourite players since he was in Cleveland Cavaliers. He is a very good point guard with decent scoring and very good dribbling skills, also his passing is very good. I feel like he would set very well with the Sixers. And having KD and Harden on offense and Ben Simmons on defense will be a plus point for the Nets. Hope this trade goes off and both the teams benefit both the teams.

No one would deny how skillful Irving is, but the problem is probably his attitude towards his teammates that's why the team will not succeed. I read some article in the past that Irving left the Cavaliers as he doesn't want to be the shadow of Lebron, so now, probably he also wants to be the leader of the team which is obviously is not because Durant is better than him.

I dunno, I respectfully disagree here. Kyrie has already won a championship, and of course he had Lebron there with him but it showed goes to show that he is cable of winning it all.  If he sticks with the Nets, and if they can all stay healthy for once, I think they would win the championship no question.  Just my 2
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September 18, 2021, 02:32:36 PM
Still a rumor and there's no update regarding to this possible trades.
If ever Sixers will agree and they will let go of Simmon for Irving, both will benefit,
Kyrie, if he will adjust with his attitude, can help Sixers to climb up and have a good chance of winning either conference or world title.
Same with the Nets, Simmons can definitely help KD and Harden, Ben is a good defensive stopper focusing on that role is a good
help since both KD and Harden are healthy coming this season, they can share ball and dominate their offenses.
Both good player in terms of there role and skills. But personality is another thing. You are right about Kyrie, He is a bit self centered that's why he can't work properly with star player. Simmons will be a perfect for his position because he can definitely adjust for KD and Harden since he is a rookie compared to Kyrie. While on the other hand, Kyrie might play a very good performance with Sixers due to less competition. This will be a good trade if this really happen.

Irving has been one of my favourite players since he was in Cleveland Cavaliers. He is a very good point guard with decent scoring and very good dribbling skills, also his passing is very good. I feel like he would set very well with the Sixers. And having KD and Harden on offense and Ben Simmons on defense will be a plus point for the Nets. Hope this trade goes off and both the teams benefit both the teams.

No one would deny how skillful Irving is, but the problem is probably his attitude towards his teammates that's why the team will not succeed. I read some article in the past that Irving left the Cavaliers as he doesn't want to be the shadow of Lebron, so now, probably he also wants to be the leader of the team which is obviously is not because Durant is better than him.
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September 18, 2021, 02:25:53 PM
Still a rumor and there's no update regarding to this possible trades.
If ever Sixers will agree and they will let go of Simmon for Irving, both will benefit,
Kyrie, if he will adjust with his attitude, can help Sixers to climb up and have a good chance of winning either conference or world title.
Same with the Nets, Simmons can definitely help KD and Harden, Ben is a good defensive stopper focusing on that role is a good
help since both KD and Harden are healthy coming this season, they can share ball and dominate their offenses.
Both good player in terms of there role and skills. But personality is another thing. You are right about Kyrie, He is a bit self centered that's why he can't work properly with star player. Simmons will be a perfect for his position because he can definitely adjust for KD and Harden since he is a rookie compared to Kyrie. While on the other hand, Kyrie might play a very good performance with Sixers due to less competition. This will be a good trade if this really happen.

Irving has been one of my favourite players since he was in Cleveland Cavaliers. He is a very good point guard with decent scoring and very good dribbling skills, also his passing is very good. I feel like he would set very well with the Sixers. And having KD and Harden on offense and Ben Simmons on defense will be a plus point for the Nets. Hope this trade goes off and both the teams benefit both the teams.
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September 18, 2021, 02:20:09 PM
Will the Nets care if Kyrie will retire if he will get traded?? I don't think so.
The most one who will gets affected here will be Kyrie's career in basketball LOL. He only puts his career on a point where its like "trade me and I will retire. I'm a big help with this team so let me stay".

Let Irving be traded and with this, I don't think too that 76ers will have an interest into an all-star player who warned the whole league that he will retire if he will be traded. Its like giving up one piece of the cake and there is no return at all.

On the other hand though, I also think that Kyrie will play in the Nets and will try to get another championship again alongside Durant and Harden. They are almost there last playoffs but injuries spoiled it. If they are just healthy the whole season and playoffs (with a bit of load management maybe), they will get the championship.

Well, I don't think the Sixers will care a bit if Irving retires. And if I were Irving, I'd play this season with the Nets because KD and Harden look healthy this season. And I think they've got a very good chance to win the conference this year compared to the last one. Last year they suffered because of KD and Harden having a season full of injuries. If they can stay fit enough and Kyrie also can provide them with good balls, they will have a very good season.

Irving would love to play with the Nets but it seems that the management wanted to trade him, there's a rumor that he would retire if he gets traded, so that really says that he doesn't want to be moved from his current team, he wants to end his contract with the Nets, but not sure if they'll finally win a championship in the coming season because of what is happening inside.
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September 18, 2021, 01:32:13 PM
Will the Nets care if Kyrie will retire if he will get traded?? I don't think so.
The most one who will gets affected here will be Kyrie's career in basketball LOL. He only puts his career on a point where its like "trade me and I will retire. I'm a big help with this team so let me stay".

Let Irving be traded and with this, I don't think too that 76ers will have an interest into an all-star player who warned the whole league that he will retire if he will be traded. Its like giving up one piece of the cake and there is no return at all.

On the other hand though, I also think that Kyrie will play in the Nets and will try to get another championship again alongside Durant and Harden. They are almost there last playoffs but injuries spoiled it. If they are just healthy the whole season and playoffs (with a bit of load management maybe), they will get the championship.

Well, I don't think the Sixers will care a bit if Irving retires. And if I were Irving, I'd play this season with the Nets because KD and Harden look healthy this season. And I think they've got a very good chance to win the conference this year compared to the last one. Last year they suffered because of KD and Harden having a season full of injuries. If they can stay fit enough and Kyrie also can provide them with good balls, they will have a very good season.
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September 18, 2021, 12:02:10 PM
Still a rumor and there's no update regarding to this possible trades.

If ever Sixers will agree and they will let go of Simmon for Irving, both will benefit,
Kyrie, if he will adjust with his attitude, can help Sixers to climb up and have a good chance of winning either conference or world title.

Same with the Nets, Simmons can definitely help KD and Harden, Ben is a good defensive stopper focusing on that role is a good
help since both KD and Harden are healthy coming this season, they can share ball and dominate their offenses.

It's worth noting that both players will earn almost the same salary for next season, but Irving has much more experience and skills than Simmons. So I think that this trade is unlikely because it would be a great deal only for the 76ers but not for the Nets.

Clippers are preparing for new Intuit Dome arena in Inglewood, CA that is going to be ready and opened by 2024.

Yeah, it's great that the Clippers will have their own arena. By the way, Kawhi Leonard was so happy to be at this groundbreaking ceremony. Grin
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September 18, 2021, 11:11:19 AM
^^, Yup, that the farthest they got with, unfortunately, Kawhi ended their dreams. And the next year, we hope that they can get over that hump, but Joel got injured, and then Simmons choking against the Hawks. So we can say that the process is no longer there, or the Joel-Ben tandem is about to end now. And now they have to start with stage 2, Joel-??? and see what kind of achievement they will get.
Why not try Embiid-Curry Grin  and that possible trade for Simmons to work with Harris and Green, Sixers still have lots of good players and with the addition of Drummond which will help them more inside, this twin tower can play alongside instead of Drummond being a backup the way Howard did last season.

The drama for Simmons still up and new rumors that Sixers are more interested in Rubio instead of love. If the deal from Cavaliers will proceed, Sixers is eyeing for Rubio. Maybe they are looking for PG replacement since Simmons mostly played that position for them.
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Clippers are preparing for new Intuit Dome arena in Inglewood, CA that is going to be ready and opened by 2024.
It looks huge and this is perfect oportunity for someone to wash $1.8 billions Smiley
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dz1GhxfSHA
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September 18, 2021, 10:44:22 AM

It could be, but if Irving is going to be trade, for sure they will get a superstar that is willing to adjust or have the experience already. So there's no rebuilding stage, just some adjustments and they are good to go the finals and then hopefully the finals next season. So let's see what is the management decision, or maybe we will see a different version of Irving because he doesn't want to lose or be drop by a team that gives him a good multi million dollar salary and to work with two of the best offensive players we have right now.

Question is, what team would be interested in Irving?

The rumor is Simmons is interested, and I think it's good because they need to improve their defense, but I just thought of this, what if they will need a PG,
I mean a real PG, and the Blazers would be willing to trade Lillard for Irving, will the Nets accept him?

Still a rumor and there's no update regarding to this possible trades.

If ever Sixers will agree and they will let go of Simmon for Irving, both will benefit,
Kyrie, if he will adjust with his attitude, can help Sixers to climb up and have a good chance of winning either conference or world title.

Same with the Nets, Simmons can definitely help KD and Harden, Ben is a good defensive stopper focusing on that role is a good
help since both KD and Harden are healthy coming this season, they can share ball and dominate their offenses.

Both good player in terms of there role and skills. But personality is another thing. You are right about Kyrie, He is a bit self centered that's why he can't work properly with star player. Simmons will be a perfect for his position because he can definitely adjust for KD and Harden since he is a rookie compared to Kyrie. While on the other hand, Kyrie might play a very good performance with Sixers due to less competition. This will be a good trade if this really happen.
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September 18, 2021, 09:29:31 AM

It could be, but if Irving is going to be trade, for sure they will get a superstar that is willing to adjust or have the experience already. So there's no rebuilding stage, just some adjustments and they are good to go the finals and then hopefully the finals next season. So let's see what is the management decision, or maybe we will see a different version of Irving because he doesn't want to lose or be drop by a team that gives him a good multi million dollar salary and to work with two of the best offensive players we have right now.

Question is, what team would be interested in Irving?

The rumor is Simmons is interested, and I think it's good because they need to improve their defense, but I just thought of this, what if they will need a PG,
I mean a real PG, and the Blazers would be willing to trade Lillard for Irving, will the Nets accept him?

Still a rumor and there's no update regarding to this possible trades.

If ever Sixers will agree and they will let go of Simmon for Irving, both will benefit,
Kyrie, if he will adjust with his attitude, can help Sixers to climb up and have a good chance of winning either conference or world title.

Same with the Nets, Simmons can definitely help KD and Harden, Ben is a good defensive stopper focusing on that role is a good
help since both KD and Harden are healthy coming this season, they can share ball and dominate their offenses.
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September 18, 2021, 09:25:43 AM
So next to Ben Simmons drama, now we have the Kryrie saga as well.
These two have different situations, Kyrie was disliked because of his attitude, but the way he played, he is really good. On the other hand, we have Simmons who is disliked by the management because he choked in the playoffs, Irving does not choke, Harden and Lebron even choke better.  Smiley

Kyrie will retire if he gets traded, lol
https://nba.nbcsports.com/2021/09/16/report-kyrie-irvings-agents-saying-irving-would-retire-if-nets-trade-him/

I think Kyrie should just let this go if the two teams will agree on it.
The nets already have Durant and Harden which could score all night, and adding Simmons in the lineup will improve their defensive presence, the only problem I see is with the 76ers as I heard both Irving and Embiid doesn't have a good attitude being a teammate,
Will the Nets care if Kyrie will retire if he will get traded?? I don't think so.
The most one who will gets affected here will be Kyrie's career in basketball LOL. He only puts his career on a point where its like "trade me and I will retire. I'm a big help with this team so let me stay".

Let Irving be traded and with this, I don't think too that 76ers will have an interest into an all-star player who warned the whole league that he will retire if he will be traded. Its like giving up one piece of the cake and there is no return at all.

On the other hand though, I also think that Kyrie will play in the Nets and will try to get another championship again alongside Durant and Harden. They are almost there last playoffs but injuries spoiled it. If they are just healthy the whole season and playoffs (with a bit of load management maybe), they will get the championship.
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September 18, 2021, 08:54:47 AM
What happens when a team just... waives a player with a mutual agreement? I have heard buyouts and all, and I have heard waived players, but I have never heard agreeing with a player to not pay his salary and let them go. I believe if Sixers let Simmons go, then Simmons can go to any team he wants and Sixers would literally be better off without him even if they get nothing in return.

Or just get something very little from some team, any offer would do. However Morey just doesn't do "any offer", last I heard he even called to ask if Dame was available to see if Portland would take simmons in exchange for Dame. Management doesn't want Simmons, but they are not making proper decisions about it neither.
I believe Dame is not available even if he says so. There is no way Portland would just surrender their best player in exchange for a kid who is having tantrums.
Like harizen said, "unproffesional". Stop the drama, go back to the huddle and just finish the damn year. If Morey finds a good deal then he will be out with his contract intact.

They will never buyout and pay that much for Simmons, they are looking for a better deal instead of wasting money. If Simmons will keep on acting like this, he will be the one who will pay the 76ers for breaching the contract and he will not receive a penny. Besides, buyout also works out if both parties agreed with it.
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September 18, 2021, 07:48:28 AM
What happens when a team just... waives a player with a mutual agreement? I have heard buyouts and all, and I have heard waived players, but I have never heard agreeing with a player to not pay his salary and let them go. I believe if Sixers let Simmons go, then Simmons can go to any team he wants and Sixers would literally be better off without him even if they get nothing in return.

Or just get something very little from some team, any offer would do. However Morey just doesn't do "any offer", last I heard he even called to ask if Dame was available to see if Portland would take simmons in exchange for Dame. Management doesn't want Simmons, but they are not making proper decisions about it neither.
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September 18, 2021, 06:40:19 AM

It could be, but if Irving is going to be trade, for sure they will get a superstar that is willing to adjust or have the experience already. So there's no rebuilding stage, just some adjustments and they are good to go the finals and then hopefully the finals next season. So let's see what is the management decision, or maybe we will see a different version of Irving because he doesn't want to lose or be drop by a team that gives him a good multi million dollar salary and to work with two of the best offensive players we have right now.

Question is, what team would be interested in Irving?

The rumor is Simmons is interested, and I think it's good because they need to improve their defense, but I just thought of this, what if they will need a PG,
I mean a real PG, and the Blazers would be willing to trade Lillard for Irving, will the Nets accept him?
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