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Quote from: mirakal on August 16, 2021, 04:05:22 PM

Yeah, that was back in the old days when basketball was more physical, and I like the old days as for me it's more entertaining than what we are seeing in the present. Shaq and Wallace are so strong and they don't shoot 3s, they even struggle with their FT percentage. I think it's Curry who changes it, lol, that's why he got the biggest contract now as he makes everyone learn to shoot because of his great 3 point shooting.

Wow, old times! I also like the 90s and early 2000s style of play.
It was a game with a lot of contact, we had good players with 3-point shots and other players with excellent ball handling!

But these days I've noticed that the type of game (and NBA players has changed). We have a large portion making shoot in the 3 points. By the way, we had "unicorns players", tall players with good ball handling and they can shoot!!

We also forgot that when the coming of European players, the NBA change too. Dirk was too lanky when he starts his NBA career, tall, but can dribble the ball and can shoot outside including three's.

Shaq was another one, tall, and damn, so powerful that no one can stop him during his prime with the Lakers, he can dribble the ball too.

Of course, Steph Curry another one who really changes the complexion of the game with his 3 point shooting way outside of the line. James Harden step back, which everyone now is doing.

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Quote from: Botnake on August 16, 2021, 04:47:03 PM

There's no flopping in the old days, I wonder who invented that "flop", is it Lebron? lol...

Flopping is cheating, it's a disrespect to the real essence of competition and I think the organization will have to impose more penalties on floppers as it does not develop a real competition that everyone could just use just to win with no essence of satisfaction.

Thanks for saying on a subject I didn't remember!! lol

These days there are a lot of flooping, basically there are some players who are practically "actors" and manage to perfectly stage a move to get the foul!

ps: LeBron was one of them, but I believe that these days he's slowed down a bit in relation to flooping.
A player who can cause an offensive foul on the opposing team is Varejão (ex Cavs and Warriors) and he didn't do much flooping, in my opinion he had a good game iq in this area.

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Quote from: mirakal on August 16, 2021, 04:05:22 PM

Yeah, that was back in the old days when basketball was more physical, and I like the old days as for me it's more entertaining than what we are seeing in the present. Shaq and Wallace are so strong and they don't shoot 3s, they even struggle with their FT percentage. I think it's Curry who changes it, lol, that's why he got the biggest contract now as he makes everyone learn to shoot because of his great 3 point shooting.

Wow, old times! I also like the 90s and early 2000s style of play.
It was a game with a lot of contact, we had good players with 3-point shots and other players with excellent ball handling!

But these days I've noticed that the type of game (and NBA players has changed). We have a large portion making shoot in the 3 points. By the way, we had "unicorns players", tall players with good ball handling and they can shoot!!

There's no flopping in the old days, I wonder who invented that "flop", is it Lebron? lol...

Flopping is cheating, it's a disrespect to the real essence of competition and I think the organization will have to impose more penalties on floppers as it does not develop a real competition that everyone could just use just to win with no essence of satisfaction.

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Quote from: mirakal on August 16, 2021, 04:05:22 PM

Yeah, that was back in the old days when basketball was more physical, and I like the old days as for me it's more entertaining than what we are seeing in the present. Shaq and Wallace are so strong and they don't shoot 3s, they even struggle with their FT percentage. I think it's Curry who changes it, lol, that's why he got the biggest contract now as he makes everyone learn to shoot because of his great 3 point shooting.

Wow, old times! I also like the 90s and early 2000s style of play.
It was a game with a lot of contact, we had good players with 3-point shots and other players with excellent ball handling!

But these days I've noticed that the type of game (and NBA players has changed). We have a large portion making shoot in the 3 points. By the way, we had "unicorns players", tall players with good ball handling and they can shoot!!

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Quote from: Fredomago on August 16, 2021, 03:54:57 PM

Quote from: mirakal on August 16, 2021, 02:40:28 PM

We are in the new generation of basketball, if you are a big man and you don't know how to shoot outside, you'll likely not gonna last in the NBA as you will only become a liability in the long run. We have a lot of good man now, we got Davis and Embbiid, these are good because they are not just dominant inside, they are good 3 point shooters as well.

I used to remember Shaq and Wallace back then they'll both dominate the league using their strength inside, but both don't have that shooting capability.

But after LeBron, every big man needs also to have that skills not just to help the team inside but also to have that threat outside, good example is Davis and Embiid.

same goes with KD and Giannis both have the height but can also kill you outside as improvement keeps being introduce to this game.

Yeah, that was back in the old days when basketball was more physical, and I like the old days as for me it's more entertaining than what we are seeing in the present. Shaq and Wallace are so strong and they don't shoot 3s, they even struggle with their FT percentage. I think it's Curry who changes it, lol, that's why he got the biggest contract now as he makes everyone learn to shoot because of his great 3 point shooting.

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Quote from: mirakal on August 16, 2021, 02:40:28 PM

We are in the new generation of basketball, if you are a big man and you don't know how to shoot outside, you'll likely not gonna last in the NBA as you will only become a liability in the long run. We have a lot of good man now, we got Davis and Embbiid, these are good because they are not just dominant inside, they are good 3 point shooters as well.

I used to remember Shaq and Wallace back then they'll both dominate the league using their strength inside, but both don't have that shooting capability.

But after LeBron, every big man needs also to have that skills not just to help the team inside but also to have that threat outside, good example is Davis and Embiid.

same goes with KD and Giannis both have the height but can also kill you outside as improvement keeps being introduce to this game.

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Quote from: tygeade on August 16, 2021, 03:21:25 PM

Honestly I do not get why memphis even did this kind of deal. Eric Bledsoe is not a bad player at all, he is a good player and now they have Rondo, PatBev and some other guy for him, was that even worth it? I would say that none of the players they got really worths it. Don't get me wrong Eric Bledsoe is not a great player neither, if you get a good trade for him then you take it, however I do not believe that he is THAT bad neither to just basically fire him for anything you get.

PatBev have proven time and time after again that dude is not a great player neither, and basically just annoys people without backing it up, he just likes to get under peoples skins which is fine, Gary Payton did that a lot and that was the guy people compared him with, but Payton had the talent to back that up as well, PatBev had like 7 ppg last year and was a bench, why did memphis even wanted him?

They certainly know what they are doing, otherwise, this trade wouldn't be a success. Rondo is the most valuable gem in the trade, if a team only knows how to maximize the talent of Rondo, he will be a big help for them. Rondo is a 2-time champion, one with the Celtics and one with the LA Lakers, so in terms of experience, he has experienced everything a player has to call his journey a successful one.

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Honestly I do not get why memphis even did this kind of deal. Eric Bledsoe is not a bad player at all, he is a good player and now they have Rondo, PatBev and some other guy for him, was that even worth it? I would say that none of the players they got really worths it. Don't get me wrong Eric Bledsoe is not a great player neither, if you get a good trade for him then you take it, however I do not believe that he is THAT bad neither to just basically fire him for anything you get.

PatBev have proven time and time after again that dude is not a great player neither, and basically just annoys people without backing it up, he just likes to get under peoples skins which is fine, Gary Payton did that a lot and that was the guy people compared him with, but Payton had the talent to back that up as well, PatBev had like 7 ppg last year and was a bench, why did memphis even wanted him?

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Quote from: Fredomago on August 16, 2021, 01:05:43 PM

if they'll complete the season with no major injuries, this Lakers squad still have that great chance to win the title, LeBron and Davis still the best combo in terms of both offense and defense,

Westbrook and Anthony they'll be adding more offensive threats and if combine well by the coach, it will bring the most of this team to a winning squad.

Still early, but for sure all of them are after the ring and they are on the mission to prove those critics regarding to their age.

So, this is a very important variable. The "x" factor that caught several teams off guard this NBA season (2020/2021) was injuries, there were a lot of injuries, even I was worried about that.
I confess that if they don't have a lot of injuries this season, the Lakers and Nets will have a great chance of making it to the NBA Finals this season (of course anything can happen), but I believe these teams have a lot of potential for that to happen.

Quote from: wheelz1200 on August 16, 2021, 01:52:47 PM

Basketball isn't just a height thing otherwise all 7 footers would be awesome. Athleticism is a huge part of playing basketball. And for most people that tall, their shooting mechanics are all wrong from anywhere out from 5 feet from the bucket. Limbs are too long for smooth mechanics. And besides most are goofy and can't move laterally quick enough to last.

Look, I believe this is a compilation of factors that can make a difference. In my opinion, height is indeed an important factor, but for a person to be an excellent player, he needs to have skill, be a good shooter, be a good movimentation and be a good defender (which in my humble opinion this last characteristic is a of the most important).

For example, over the years we've seen a number of HS and college basketball players who are tall and who are occupying SG and PG positions.
I believe these characteristics of that players is going to change

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Quote from: Yamifoud on August 16, 2021, 11:11:25 AM

Who would forget that team, Paul George was also Ballin with the Pacers, it's just so pity that after Hibbert's season with the Pacers, he does not have a good basketball career anymore. We can see his stats here https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/hibbero01.html and only in Indiana Pacers where he is playing very well.

Thanks for sharing these Hibbert stats with us @Yamifoud

Hibbert's had good performance when he was in Indiana, and that was clear!
Sometimes I don't understand, how a player like him 7-2 (218cm) tall, hasn't had a brilliant career in the NBA... not to mention unfortunately he retired from basketball too early.

Basketball isn't just a height thing otherwise all 7 footers would be awesome. Athleticism is a huge part of playing basketball. And for most people that tall, their shooting mechanics are all wrong from anywhere out from 5 feet from the bucket. Limbs are too long for smooth mechanics. And besides most are goofy and can't move laterally quick enough to last.

We are in the new generation of basketball, if you are a big man and you don't know how to shoot outside, you'll likely not gonna last in the NBA as you will only become a liability in the long run. We have a lot of good man now, we got Davis and Embbiid, these are good because they are not just dominant inside, they are good 3 point shooters as well.

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Quote from: gagux123 on August 16, 2021, 12:39:56 PM

Quote from: Yamifoud on August 16, 2021, 11:11:25 AM

Who would forget that team, Paul George was also Ballin with the Pacers, it's just so pity that after Hibbert's season with the Pacers, he does not have a good basketball career anymore. We can see his stats here https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/hibbero01.html and only in Indiana Pacers where he is playing very well.

Thanks for sharing these Hibbert stats with us @Yamifoud

Hibbert's had good performance when he was in Indiana, and that was clear!
Sometimes I don't understand, how a player like him 7-2 (218cm) tall, hasn't had a brilliant career in the NBA... not to mention unfortunately he retired from basketball too early.

Basketball isn't just a height thing otherwise all 7 footers would be awesome. Athleticism is a huge part of playing basketball. And for most people that tall, their shooting mechanics are all wrong from anywhere out from 5 feet from the bucket. Limbs are too long for smooth mechanics. And besides most are goofy and can't move laterally quick enough to last.

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Quote from: Karartma1 on August 16, 2021, 11:24:46 AM

I was thinking of the Lakers' roster recently. There isn't only the arrival of Russell Westbrook to bring special attention to the Los Angeles Lakers, but also that of Carmelo Anthony. The latter, who's always been a great friend of LeBron James, is ready to fully step into his rotation role, to make the second unit offensively dangerous. Melo wants to win a ring with Lakers, and with this team he might achieve this.

Sure, even though Melo is LeBron's friend off the court, I think this is another reason to Melo plays well in the Lakers, because he will be playing with his great longtime friend!

I really like Carmelo Anthony, I hope he and the other players can bring this ring to the Lakers

if they'll complete the season with no major injuries, this Lakers squad still have that great chance to win the title, LeBron and Davis still the best combo in terms of both offense and defense,

Westbrook and Anthony they'll be adding more offensive threats and if combine well by the coach, it will bring the most of this team to a winning squad.

Still early, but for sure all of them are after the ring and they are on the mission to prove those critics regarding to their age.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on August 16, 2021, 11:11:25 AM

Who would forget that team, Paul George was also Ballin with the Pacers, it's just so pity that after Hibbert's season with the Pacers, he does not have a good basketball career anymore. We can see his stats here https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/hibbero01.html and only in Indiana Pacers where he is playing very well.

Thanks for sharing these Hibbert stats with us @Yamifoud

Hibbert's had good performance when he was in Indiana, and that was clear!
Sometimes I don't understand, how a player like him 7-2 (218cm) tall, hasn't had a brilliant career in the NBA... not to mention unfortunately he retired from basketball too early.

A player who retired (in 2021) that I really didn't understand was the center Lucas Bebe (Toronto Raptors), 28 years old at 7-1 (213cm) tall. He said he wasn't happy playing basketball and returned to Brazil looking for new challenges! Several people, players, were shocked by his decision.

Quote from: Karartma1 on August 16, 2021, 11:24:46 AM

I was thinking of the Lakers' roster recently. There isn't only the arrival of Russell Westbrook to bring special attention to the Los Angeles Lakers, but also that of Carmelo Anthony. The latter, who's always been a great friend of LeBron James, is ready to fully step into his rotation role, to make the second unit offensively dangerous. Melo wants to win a ring with Lakers, and with this team he might achieve this.

Sure, even though Melo is LeBron's friend off the court, I think this is another reason to Melo plays well in the Lakers, because he will be playing with his great longtime friend!

I really like Carmelo Anthony, I hope he and the other players can bring this ring to the Lakers

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Quote from: Pamadar on August 16, 2021, 01:41:19 AM

They also have Hibbert and West back then. I remember that team.

They go to the playoffs but Miami's big 3 still hot during that time, if Indiana kept all those stars after that season
For sure, they still got that competitive squad after that loss from The Heat! They are all young and full of talented individuals that,
just need to jive and work together for the same goal of winning a title.

Yeah, sure!! I confess that I had not remembered Hibbert.

That Indiana team at that time was a promising and young team. And even so they made others teams struggle to beat them, including the Heat at that time (which was an excellent team), I even believe it was one of the best teams the Miami franchise ever had!!

Who would forget that team, Paul George was also Ballin with the Pacers, it's just so pity that after Hibbert's season with the Pacers, he does not have a good basketball career anymore. We can see his stats here https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/hibbero01.html and only in Indiana Pacers where he is playing very well.

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Quote from: Pamadar on August 16, 2021, 01:41:19 AM

They also have Hibbert and West back then. I remember that team.

They go to the playoffs but Miami's big 3 still hot during that time, if Indiana kept all those stars after that season
For sure, they still got that competitive squad after that loss from The Heat! They are all young and full of talented individuals that,
just need to jive and work together for the same goal of winning a title.

Yeah, sure!! I confess that I had not remembered Hibbert.

That Indiana team at that time was a promising and young team. And even so they made others teams struggle to beat them, including the Heat at that time (which was an excellent team), I even believe it was one of the best teams the Miami franchise ever had!!

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Quote from: Reid on August 16, 2021, 09:10:28 AM

Well, I guess Grizzlies just acquired a good defensive player in their roster.

No doubt about that, but not only do they get Beverly, they also have Rondo who is an experienced point guard who could definitely help the young team to be more competitive in the playoffs. https://theathletic.com/news/clippers-to-add-eric-bledsoe-from-grizzlies-in-trade-for-beverly-rondo-sources/C0EPCiOuAFF9

However, I'm sure the Clippers have evaluated everything well because they make a decision, and I think they find Bledsoe a good addition for them to make more successful also.

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I don't agree with the Beverley trade. He may have done some wrong choices but that his emotion showing what is real.
I am against those who are hiding in the closet portraying they are good when media is around but never when they are alone or with their family.
Beverley being mad at CP3 is him, he doesn't care about the camera, he is upset and being competitive, so what. That's a real player for me.

Trading him is a different discussion and his acts should not be considered with it.
Defense. He is one of the top guarding point/shooting guards and even Lebron James being stopped from his shooting motions with a clean slap.
Well, I guess Grizzlies just acquired a good defensive player in their roster.

Oh and I forgot. How is a Bledsoe trade better than keeping him? Bucks just made a championship because Bledsoe was traded.

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Glad to see Patrick Beverly traded from the Clippers. His dangerous play to break Booker’s nose in the playoffs has become all too much what you expect from him. He shouldn’t even be in the NBA in my opinion, but I’m glad he’s going to a non-contender to be a backup as opposed to his role on the Clippers.

It surprises me that they trade two veterans for Eric Bledsoe, I guess they value Eric more than Rondo and Bev. Grizzlies already has Ja Morant so I don't know how both Rajon and Pat can fit in their rotation. Although Bledsoe was just a returning Clipper, maybe he can fill the point guard position that will be left by the two veteran. Yeah. Anyhow, let's hear more trade, I'm sure everyone is waiting for the Ben Simmons drama.

Memphis is loaded with guards so provably they will just trade those guys in exchange with more good talents, But actually they can use Rondo as their back up point guard if they can utilize his talent for sure they can give them a good plays, but we don't know what's the real plan by Memphis so let see how those two guys journey on their new team.

Also many are now curious to know about which team can successfully acquired and its interesting to know if he will go on strong teams or on average team only.

Pat Beverly is bringing his style in the Pelicans, lol... in any team that he is playing, it will gain the attention of the fans due to his style of play, I like his defense but sometimes he is too much, he did not anymore think that he can also hurt his opponent, he does not even respect CP3 which was his teammate before.

I would say he is a dirty player, that's it, he is one of the big reasons why the Clippers were a bit successful during the playoffs despite the injury, but I'm sure the management is not happy with his attitude at some moment in the playoffs, particularly when the pushed CP3 after they got defeated.

Hopefully he will change and he will be a vital for the young team.

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Quote from: OgNasty on August 15, 2021, 09:56:48 PM

Glad to see Patrick Beverly traded from the Clippers. His dangerous play to break Booker’s nose in the playoffs has become all too much what you expect from him. He shouldn’t even be in the NBA in my opinion, but I’m glad he’s going to a non-contender to be a backup as opposed to his role on the Clippers.

It surprises me that they trade two veterans for Eric Bledsoe, I guess they value Eric more than Rondo and Bev. Grizzlies already has Ja Morant so I don't know how both Rajon and Pat can fit in their rotation. Although Bledsoe was just a returning Clipper, maybe he can fill the point guard position that will be left by the two veteran. Yeah. Anyhow, let's hear more trade, I'm sure everyone is waiting for the Ben Simmons drama.

Memphis is loaded with guards so provably they will just trade those guys in exchange with more good talents, But actually they can use Rondo as their back up point guard if they can utilize his talent for sure they can give them a good plays, but we don't know what's the real plan by Memphis so let see how those two guys journey on their new team.

Also many are now curious to know about which team can successfully acquired and its interesting to know if he will go on strong teams or on average team only.

Pat Beverly is bringing his style in the Pelicans, lol... in any team that he is playing, it will gain the attention of the fans due to his style of play, I like his defense but sometimes he is too much, he did not anymore think that he can also hurt his opponent, he does not even respect CP3 which was his teammate before.

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