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January 03, 2021, 05:33:06 PM
Obviously the team is built around Steph and Klay. Without Klay their offense just doesn’t work. Draymond’s skills are nearly useless without shooters on both wings. Wiggins doesn’t shoot a high enough % to carry a team. Wiseman has looked promising but he’s too young to make a massive impact. With even Chriss going out with an injury now it looks like it’s going to be another throwaway season for the dubs. Maybe they’ll get another top draft pick and be back to building another dynasty when Klay returns.
I doubt that you could have a tanking season with a player like Curry on your team, he alone could get some wins. Plus remember how Lebron carried a team that would probably be league last into finals all by his talents, I am not saying Curry is as good as Lebron because he isn't but also their styles are different, but I also think Curry is good enough to bring them to nearly playoff levels if not into playoffs all by his own talent.

Team is definitely built around Klay and Curry but even with only Curry on the team they are not suddenly horrible, they will need some adjustment because they are so used to being awesome, but I am sure they will get into rhythm soon and will get better too. Curry got them so many games in the past, even all alone but even with other players on the field, he was the only one playing good at times, so I still believe in him.

You've gotta remember that Curry sat out nearly an entire season with a broken hand, then came back to barely play before the quarantine situation happened.  Then with the Warriors not being invited to the bubble...  Steph has hardly played any basketball for the last 2 years.  He's rusty, and probably having some endurance issues.  I doubt we'll see him playing at his former level until next season.  Sure, he'll put up some good numbers still, but I don't think he's going to have what it takes to lead them to the playoffs.  Especially with the way Wiggins and Oubre are playing. 
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January 03, 2021, 05:26:48 PM
It's better if Warriors tank this season. They have no play-off chance anyway.
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January 03, 2021, 05:21:12 PM
They actually look like a new team to me.
Not the Golden State Warriors that we know.
Maybe when Klay comes back then we could see that same spark again.
They are 2wins and 3losses. Not bad for a team that had been missing a lot of players and of course the chemistry.

Sure, their current result(2-3) is looking not bad for such a weakened team, but they will play against Portland Blazers in the next match again, and I'm expecting that the Warriors will get another defeat by 20/25 points.

That's too easy, Warriors not gonna let that happened again, they might win tonight, and if they loss against the Blazers, I guess it will be a close game, just my thoughts, I hope I'm right.  Grin
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January 03, 2021, 01:42:33 PM
They actually look like a new team to me.
Not the Golden State Warriors that we know.
Maybe when Klay comes back then we could see that same spark again.
They are 2wins and 3losses. Not bad for a team that had been missing a lot of players and of course the chemistry.

Sure, their current result(2-3) is looking not bad for such a weakened team, but they will play against Portland Blazers in the next match again, and I'm expecting that the Warriors will get another defeat by 20/25 points.
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January 03, 2021, 11:57:24 AM
Obviously the team is built around Steph and Klay. Without Klay their offense just doesn’t work. Draymond’s skills are nearly useless without shooters on both wings. Wiggins doesn’t shoot a high enough % to carry a team. Wiseman has looked promising but he’s too young to make a massive impact. With even Chriss going out with an injury now it looks like it’s going to be another throwaway season for the dubs. Maybe they’ll get another top draft pick and be back to building another dynasty when Klay returns.
I doubt that you could have a tanking season with a player like Curry on your team, he alone could get some wins. Plus remember how Lebron carried a team that would probably be league last into finals all by his talents, I am not saying Curry is as good as Lebron because he isn't but also their styles are different, but I also think Curry is good enough to bring them to nearly playoff levels if not into playoffs all by his own talent.

Team is definitely built around Klay and Curry but even with only Curry on the team they are not suddenly horrible, they will need some adjustment because they are so used to being awesome, but I am sure they will get into rhythm soon and will get better too. Curry got them so many games in the past, even all alone but even with other players on the field, he was the only one playing good at times, so I still believe in him.
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January 03, 2021, 09:42:55 AM
Worst if it will be extended for the next season after the present season, Thompson surely miss playing and he wants to help his team, but it's just unfortunately he was injured even before the pre season begins. Damn, really miss him splashing 3s, things could be easier for this team.
Correct. Damn, I hope he could go back much earlier.
They are not as popular as before, their fans are moving to Lakers or Clippers, lol.. Curry is great, no question about that, but the players that surround him are still young and no experience in playoffs, so we really can't expect they'll win against an experience team.
They actually look like a new team to me.
Not the Golden State Warriors that we know.
Maybe when Klay comes back then we could see that same spark again.
They are 2wins and 3losses. Not bad for a team that had been missing a lot of players and of course the chemistry.

Obviously the team is built around Steph and Klay. Without Klay their offense just doesn’t work. Draymond’s skills are nearly useless without shooters on both wings. Wiggins doesn’t shoot a high enough % to carry a team. Wiseman has looked promising but he’s too young to make a massive impact. With even Chriss going out with an injury now it looks like it’s going to be another throwaway season for the dubs. Maybe they’ll get another top draft pick and be back to building another dynasty when Klay returns.
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January 03, 2021, 09:37:41 AM
What do you think Miami team guys. Do you think the rookie players like hero and robinson will to improve and show more of their capabilities? I was thinking that maybe because of these two rookies they will be able beat team like lakers despite the Lebron and Davis tandem which is very hard to guard and can do offensively. If not only with lakers in the last season probably they can win a championship title last season.
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January 03, 2021, 09:22:54 AM
Worst if it will be extended for the next season after the present season, Thompson surely miss playing and he wants to help his team, but it's just unfortunately he was injured even before the pre season begins. Damn, really miss him splashing 3s, things could be easier for this team.
Correct. Damn, I hope he could go back much earlier.
They are not as popular as before, their fans are moving to Lakers or Clippers, lol.. Curry is great, no question about that, but the players that surround him are still young and no experience in playoffs, so we really can't expect they'll win against an experience team.
They actually look like a new team to me.
Not the Golden State Warriors that we know.
Maybe when Klay comes back then we could see that same spark again.
They are 2wins and 3losses. Not bad for a team that had been missing a lot of players and of course the chemistry.
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January 03, 2021, 08:05:37 AM

Warriors lack of defense is pretty evident, they are not the same warriors anymore, this team has started from the beginning again and I don't know if they'll improve this season or will qualify in the playoffs as they have a lot of games already that they lose by a big margin.

The Warriors lose to the other teams in a blow out way where you can see that they are really struggling unlike they were before in the 5 last seasons with Stephen Curry on the court. Now they look like a team having a hard time adjusting their play every time they step on the court. I wonder what their coach is doing with his team struggling at the first 10 games of the season.

They are not as popular as before, their fans are moving to Lakers or Clippers, lol.. Curry is great, no question about that, but the players that surround him are still young and no experience in playoffs, so we really can't expect they'll win against an experience team.

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They should think about the way they play next time because such a blowout loss will change the course of their popularity if they don't do well next game. 
I'm sure they are doing that, but if there team is not really that good, there's nothing they can do but just to play their best and hope to win.
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January 03, 2021, 08:01:01 AM
I think it could be reasonable to expect Golden State Warriors to win versus Pacers even without Klay Thompson, because Pacers is also going to play without T. J. Warren so both sides are going to be balanced. The Pacers were really good so far this season with him until he got injured. Then even Knicks was able to get an edge over them even though Pacers demolished them just a few games ago.

Last time they met, I don't think Thompson or Curry were even playing that match, and they beat GSW by a close call. This match I think the result will also be a close call, so Handicap bets look attractive here, and also Under points markets (assuming the sportsbooks somehow are not taking their injuries to consideration).
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January 03, 2021, 06:36:20 AM
^^ And they have the best sports doctor out there, so no doubt that it will help a lot during his rehab and recovery. However, there are athletes that didn't really recover despite in the advancement of sport medicine, maybe everyone react differently.

@yazher - I agree, the Warriors are really a different team now, so they really need a lot of help and hope that Klay will provide that again.

Klay can't provide that again because he is out for the whole season, this season to be exact. If they have Klay, things could be different, maybe they are a little more competitive as you know, splash brothers are the best offensive team up in the NBA. For now, let's just leave KT, he can rest and be ready for next season, this season is more like getting the chemistry they needed because only 2 is the original starters of the GSW that are playing now.

That's correct and that's according to https://www.rotoworld.com/basketball/nba/player/29691/klay-thompson

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Thompson is expected to make a full recovery, but he will miss the entire 2020-21 season and his absence could extend well into the 2021-20 season.

Worst if it will be extended for the next season after the present season, Thompson surely miss playing and he wants to help his team, but it's just unfortunately he was injured even before the pre season begins. Damn, really miss him splashing 3s, things could be easier for this team.


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January 03, 2021, 06:04:40 AM
^^ And they have the best sports doctor out there, so no doubt that it will help a lot during his rehab and recovery. However, there are athletes that didn't really recover despite in the advancement of sport medicine, maybe everyone react differently.

@yazher - I agree, the Warriors are really a different team now, so they really need a lot of help and hope that Klay will provide that again.

Klay can't provide that again because he is out for the whole season, this season to be exact. If they have Klay, things could be different, maybe they are a little more competitive as you know, splash brothers are the best offensive team up in the NBA. For now, let's just leave KT, he can rest and be ready for next season, this season is more like getting the chemistry they needed because only 2 is the original starters of the GSW that are playing now.
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January 03, 2021, 05:57:53 AM

Warriors lack of defense is pretty evident, they are not the same warriors anymore, this team has started from the beginning again and I don't know if they'll improve this season or will qualify in the playoffs as they have a lot of games already that they lose by a big margin.

The Warriors lose to the other teams in a blow out way where you can see that they are really struggling unlike they were before in the 5 last seasons with Stephen Curry on the court. Now they look like a team having a hard time adjusting their play every time they step on the court. I wonder what their coach is doing with his team struggling at the first 10 games of the season. They should think about the way they play next time because such a blowout loss will change the course of their popularity if they don't do well next game. 

Draymond green once say to Durant that they didn't need him, look at them now, lol.. this man is hilarious, I'm wondering if his stats this season is impressive but I still don't think that them as a team will succeed and will qualify in the playoffs, just too much talent in the west now, they are not that competitive anymore.
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January 03, 2021, 05:33:23 AM
^^ And they have the best sports doctor out there, so no doubt that it will help a lot during his rehab and recovery. However, there are athletes that didn't really recover despite in the advancement of sport medicine, maybe everyone react differently.

@yazher - I agree, the Warriors are really a different team now, so they really need a lot of help and hope that Klay will provide that again.
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January 02, 2021, 10:26:19 PM
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Yes, i have no doubt, losing the team's star is a bad thing, but it can make the team stronger in the future.
I hope Morant and Klay will be able to return soon.

Thank you so much, I appreciate the concern, but what my doctor said, I will never return 100% as it was before, anyone who suffers an ACL fracture will never return as it was before, is sad to say things like this  Undecided

I can play sports and run without problems, (and I can still dunk lol).
But I am sure that Klay Thompson is in good hands, because the NBA has an excellent structure for players and also that his postoperative went well.
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January 02, 2021, 10:15:45 PM

Warriors lack of defense is pretty evident, they are not the same warriors anymore, this team has started from the beginning again and I don't know if they'll improve this season or will qualify in the playoffs as they have a lot of games already that they lose by a big margin.

The Warriors lose to the other teams in a blow out way where you can see that they are really struggling unlike they were before in the 5 last seasons with Stephen Curry on the court. Now they look like a team having a hard time adjusting their play every time they step on the court. I wonder what their coach is doing with his team struggling at the first 10 games of the season. They should think about the way they play next time because such a blowout loss will change the course of their popularity if they don't do well next game. 
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January 02, 2021, 08:07:23 PM
This post doesn't make any sense because when both Irving and Durant are sidelined for the season Brooklyn Nets as a team are winning games and because they infused their stars suddenly they are losings games. Before Dinwiddie got injured and will be out of the season he was the 5th option for the starting 5 and last season he was a 20 ppg player now he barely makes 7 points, this kind of adjustment for such a quality player is not what you want to see. I know you have 2 stars in the team but it doesn't mean they are the only options for scoring buckets but that is what the Brooklyn Nets did.

What do you mean it doesn't make any sense? When one of Irving and Durant duo choked, that cause them a big loss. Other players had no effect to scoring.

Dinwiddie is not here so you are saying exactly what I say. Brooklyn need more scoring options. They can get a good spot for play-offs but they can't go Conference Finals with this line-up.


You need to look at their stats! They had a terrible 3-point shooting performance, and I think that it is one of the main reasons why the Brooklyn Nets lost this match. Durant and Irving made only 4 of 18 from the 3pt line. Undecided

That's what I'm saying. If Nets only rely on Durant and Irving they can't do well in the long run. You don't expect them to win games every time.
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January 02, 2021, 06:51:41 PM

Having strong players really is a different story even if they had good players like KD and Irving for me these two players is not a good combination. These two players are scorer and they will just go and shoot into the basket. Well, they could be like to carry the team but without others playing their role then it would be a difficult to win against 5 basketball players working hard together. So, they should let KD and Irving to switch when it needed so that other players could function well and will be able to learn as a team.
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January 02, 2021, 06:45:30 PM
Kyrie Irving and Kevin Durant is back but they got a big loss against Hawks at home. One more time we saw this small rotation would not be enough for Brooklyn this year.
They have to bring more veteran players to make squad stronger. They get almost no help from bench players. I think they need at least 2 good shooters in bench. All work can't be done by starting 5.
You need to look at their stats! They had a terrible 3-point shooting performance, and I think that it is one of the main reasons why the Brooklyn Nets lost this match. Durant and Irving made only 4 of 18 from the 3pt line. Undecided

Each player does have bad nights and performances but  this one is notable because if they will able to make those 3's successfully then that would really be a big contribution for the win.

I agree on what ingiltere said about on small rotation which it is really clear that other players arent really playing up their role plus those lots of missed shots in 3 point line.

They do need to enhance it even more and there still lots of time since this is just the beginning of the season.

There's plenty of time to correct their mistakes, we are in the early stage of the regular season, lots of things can happen and lots to be improve. What's important is the nets already have the talent, Durant and Irving are both healthy, they win games, they lose games, normal.. but for sure they'll work harder to be more consistent and lead in the standing in the East, even against the whole team.
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January 02, 2021, 06:33:05 PM
Kyrie Irving and Kevin Durant is back but they got a big loss against Hawks at home. One more time we saw this small rotation would not be enough for Brooklyn this year.
They have to bring more veteran players to make squad stronger. They get almost no help from bench players. I think they need at least 2 good shooters in bench. All work can't be done by starting 5.
You need to look at their stats! They had a terrible 3-point shooting performance, and I think that it is one of the main reasons why the Brooklyn Nets lost this match. Durant and Irving made only 4 of 18 from the 3pt line. Undecided

Each player does have bad nights and performances but  this one is notable because if they will able to make those 3's successfully then that would really be a big contribution for the win.

I agree on what ingiltere said about on small rotation which it is really clear that other players arent really playing up their role plus those lots of missed shots in 3 point line.

They do need to enhance it even more and there still lots of time since this is just the beginning of the season.
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