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NBA free agency rumors and live updates: Marc Gasol picks Lakers over Raptors; Serge Ibaka joins Clippers

I think this is a good news, Serge Ibaka though bit oldie already but he can help the Clippers with his good defense.
not only with his defense but his offense as well and I also like him since he shoots 3 points.

Raptors does not have an all star big man anymore with this news, I wonder what's their plan?

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It lessens the expectation of a player like him that just got an injury.

Many times and many great players got an injury and that made the noise for them a little lower and decreased a lot of expectations for them. But I'm sure that he won't be forgotten quickly as long as he can prove himself back again.

If what he need is a team that relies in him then I guess he can prove himself with the Charlotte Hornets as Boston Celtics are playing with a lot of rotation, they changes their plays defending on their opponent but certainly Hornets are like an OKC team who relies on Westbrook or a Rockets team who relies on Harden.

If that's the betterment of him and the team that he'll go to.

That's absolutely going to be effective for him but we'll still have to see if that's going to work perfectly when the season starts.

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He actually deserve the contract he have signed. Siakam is a good addition to any team and his value remains the same even the bad performance in the bubble (which was understandable because of the current pandemic). He was excellent in 2019 NBA finals, I don't think that's a bad contract as the Raptors is keeping him.

That's why I disagree to those people who tells that he doesn't deserve the huge contract since they under performed this season since for sure everything will be changed on next season, Siakam known to be a great player so no wonder improvements will drop down and for sure Siakam will comeback with a revenge.

For those people who havent seen on how Siakam do make plays then their the ones who would say that the recent contract isnt really worth for him.

I totally disagree with it too because if we do base up on how he did perform on that 2019 finals as mentioned earlier then i dont see any reason for him not to given that contract.

For Vanvleet? He is indeed improving as years pass and it is just worth for him to keep up.Performance talk comparing in bubble on normal days? for sure it would be totally different.

For now we cannot really call a player a failure if he didn't perform well these days since we know there are health threats that can possibly make a player be anxious on everything inside the court. Maybe the next season will be the proper judgement year for each player if they cannot contribute well on their teams. I believe Siakam is so good and we see that when they win the championship since he is on of the big contributor to take that champ on Toronto.

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Quote from: gagux123 on November 23, 2020, 04:56:38 PM

Well, I'm a little bit anxious for the beginning of the season
I hope the teams from this season are more balanced and competitive, but I think the Lakers will be able to win this championship again, let's see how they will behave during the regular season.

As long as there is small market and big market teams expect that there will be imbalance when it comes to the distribution of players. Starplayers will always of for the big market teams or the ones who will be competitive as they will always be looking for the highest pay day as well as the chance to become the champion that is why you will see some non-Playoff teams like the Lakers will suddenly become a play-off team because stars will sign a contract with them. You won't expect this kind of outcome for small market teams as there only hope is from drafting players or through trades.

Big market franchise have a lots of money to offer and this league is a business,
players are more into collecting big paychecks. Some might be aiming for the title
but most are just okay with what they are getting now, they've got comfortable life
just by playing, more on caring for their health to extend the year of enjoying a wealthy
lifestyle.

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Yes, his improvement can't be ignored through his NBA career. Toronto's taking good care of him. If most of the teams are like this for their players that are contributing very well, they'll get to see better performance from that player.
Good choice for Toronto.

Most players who does not get a good contract yet will always play hard to improve and to impressed the fans so the management would like them and will give them a good contract, but afterwards, that's where some players would take it easy since they already get a good salary, they will not be too aggressive, they'll play soft basketball to stay healthy and still continue to make money.

One bad example is Siakam which was signed at $130 million for 4 years, but look at his performance during the Bubble.

They'll have their own performance to improve and when they're given a chance to enter the court, it's their time to shine and don't waste that opportunity to show to their franchise and fans what they can offer to the team. And this guy, he's just consistently doing that so it's hard for them to release him.
I don't think that they'll even allow him to get into another team if he continues doing good performance unless there's a good offer to buy his contract from other teams.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on November 23, 2020, 04:31:01 PM

Another max contract, Jayson Tatum, Celtics agree to five-year, $195 million rookie max extension, per report. I think everyone can agree that this is fair and deserving for Tatum as well.

That's a lot of money but I am sure it will be worth it.
Young kid, agility type with lots of skill set. It's a win for the Celtics. I'll keep Tatum for myself if I am the owner of Celtics.
It's like molding a new Kobe. No disrespect to Kobe of course.
Actually, we can see a lot of signature moves of the Hall of Famer in Tatum because he was his mentor. Cry

Quote from: Yaunfitda on November 23, 2020, 04:31:01 PM

While Markieff Morris staying with Lakers, well he did lend some quality minutes to the Lakers quest for the championship in the last 10 years hitting 3's and playing good defense, except for that fumble pass to AD.

Damn, I can still visualize that error just in my memory.
I don't even need Youtube to remind me of that bad play. Grin

But they still won. So, I think that's all forgotten. Let's just remember the good stuff.

I can't say its worth though for Tatum, but Celtics is really building around him, so I guess it's a win win situation for them. Yeah, he is so much of a Kobe fan or idolises the Black Mamba that we can see his moves on him.

For Morris, it's good that he stay with the Lakers and probably he will blossom there with his defense. If I'm not mistaken he already greatly improved his shooting specially 3's and that's why Lakers are willing to gamble on him next season to provide help.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on November 23, 2020, 04:31:01 PM

Another max contract, Jayson Tatum, Celtics agree to five-year, $195 million rookie max extension, per report. I think everyone can agree that this is fair and deserving for Tatum as well.

That's a lot of money but I am sure it will be worth it.
Young kid, agility type with lots of skill set. It's a win for the Celtics. I'll keep Tatum for myself if I am the owner of Celtics.
It's like molding a new Kobe. No disrespect to Kobe of course.
Actually, we can see a lot of signature moves of the Hall of Famer in Tatum because he was his mentor. Cry

Quote from: Yaunfitda on November 23, 2020, 04:31:01 PM

While Markieff Morris staying with Lakers, well he did lend some quality minutes to the Lakers quest for the championship in the last 10 years hitting 3's and playing good defense, except for that fumble pass to AD.

Damn, I can still visualize that error just in my memory.
I don't even need Youtube to remind me of that bad play. Grin

But they still won. So, I think that's all forgotten. Let's just remember the good stuff.

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Quote from: gagux123 on November 23, 2020, 04:56:38 PM

Well, I'm a little bit anxious for the beginning of the season
I hope the teams from this season are more balanced and competitive, but I think the Lakers will be able to win this championship again, let's see how they will behave during the regular season.

As long as there is small market and big market teams expect that there will be imbalance when it comes to the distribution of players. Starplayers will always of for the big market teams or the ones who will be competitive as they will always be looking for the highest pay day as well as the chance to become the champion that is why you will see some non-Playoff teams like the Lakers will suddenly become a play-off team because stars will sign a contract with them. You won't expect this kind of outcome for small market teams as there only hope is from drafting players or through trades.

Yeah this is the centralized problem in basketball. In other sports one or 2 players won't completely change a team makeup (outside of completely top tier superstars), but in basketball the players started to realize this and now run the league versus the teams running them. They dictate building super teams etc. It takes a little of the fun out of the game for me

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Quote from: gagux123 on November 23, 2020, 04:56:38 PM

Well, I'm a little bit anxious for the beginning of the season
I hope the teams from this season are more balanced and competitive, but I think the Lakers will be able to win this championship again, let's see how they will behave during the regular season.

As long as there is small market and big market teams expect that there will be imbalance when it comes to the distribution of players. Starplayers will always of for the big market teams or the ones who will be competitive as they will always be looking for the highest pay day as well as the chance to become the champion that is why you will see some non-Playoff teams like the Lakers will suddenly become a play-off team because stars will sign a contract with them. You won't expect this kind of outcome for small market teams as there only hope is from drafting players or through trades.

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Quote from: gagux123 on November 23, 2020, 04:56:38 PM

Well, I'm a little bit anxious for the beginning of the season
I hope the teams from this season are more balanced and competitive, but I think the Lakers will be able to win this championship again, let's see how they will behave during the regular season.

As far as I can see as of now, I did not see some balance here, it looks like Lakers are even getting better with the acquisition of some big names, especially the big guys where its their advantage in the bubble, I don't know how other teams would respond to them next season.

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He actually deserve the contract he have signed. Siakam is a good addition to any team and his value remains the same even the bad performance in the bubble (which was understandable because of the current pandemic). He was excellent in 2019 NBA finals, I don't think that's a bad contract as the Raptors is keeping him.

That's why I disagree to those people who tells that he doesn't deserve the huge contract since they under performed this season since for sure everything will be changed on next season, Siakam known to be a great player so no wonder improvements will drop down and for sure Siakam will comeback with a revenge.

For those people who havent seen on how Siakam do make plays then their the ones who would say that the recent contract isnt really worth for him.

I totally disagree with it too because if we do base up on how he did perform on that 2019 finals as mentioned earlier then i dont see any reason for him not to given that contract.

For Vanvleet? He is indeed improving as years pass and it is just worth for him to keep up.Performance talk comparing in bubble on normal days? for sure it would be totally different.

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Well, I'm a little bit anxious for the beginning of the season
I hope the teams from this season are more balanced and competitive, but I think the Lakers will be able to win this championship again, let's see how they will behave during the regular season.

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Quote from: Captain Corporate on November 23, 2020, 08:59:27 AM

Siakam doesn't really look like he is going to be a bad player, dude definitely balled out the year they became champions, which made him deserve that huge contract as well because he is definitely a player everyone would want, someone who can shoot, drive, pass, rebound and defend is not something you find that easily. However he had a bad bump during bubble period, that happens, maybe he didn't feel comfortable enough in the bubble, or the break was too much for him, I am sure when he comes back and plays during this regular season and when they go to playoffs, he will not have the same troubles and would probably play like he used to. Just because he had a bad month we can't say he is not a good player at all.

Totally agree with you mate, every player will experience what Siakam has experienced. Calling him a bad player or not good for not making it to the Finals in the bubble is BS. With Gasol out, Siakam will be the face of the Raptors in the next few years I think.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on November 23, 2020, 04:31:01 PM

Another max contract, Jayson Tatum, Celtics agree to five-year, $195 million rookie max extension, per report. I think everyone can agree that this is fair and deserving for Tatum as well.

Yup, that's a fair contract for him. He surely deserves it.

Quote from: fullhdpixel on November 23, 2020, 10:36:56 AM

I am still waiting for this Harden news to hit, that would be something superb for Nets but it looks like Rockets are not willing to give Harden for small assets, they want something huge which I understand but it is also not cool to keep player who wants to leave as well.

I'm also waiting for it. I've read some rumors about his transfer but I won't believe it unless it's already finalized that he's going and will be released by the Rockets.

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Another max contract, Jayson Tatum, Celtics agree to five-year, $195 million rookie max extension, per report. I think everyone can agree that this is fair and deserving for Tatum as well.

While Markieff Morris staying with Lakers, well he did lend some quality minutes to the Lakers quest for the championship in the last 10 years hitting 3's and playing good defense, except for that fumble pass to AD.

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No, Nets already had given Durant 1 season to rest, they gamble for that, so since he is back this coming season, they will be expecting that he will play as expected. Nets paid him some serious salary, I don't think they would not expect much from Durant, this is business, he must deliver because they are paying him millions.

That's an obligation as you said Nets are paying him good mount of money.

It's the right for this franschise to expect from him to carry the team, the last season rest is well enough Nets gave him free money
they spend that believing that after that rest KD will bring them and amazing performance so we will expect to see what's the worth
of this trade.

Just to be specific though.

Kevin Durant's 4-Year, $164M Nets Contract Includes Player Option

That's $164 million or $41 million per year in average.

I have a little question, does the nets paid him last season despite not playing?

Yes basketball salaries are fully guaranteed for injuries and/or performance. If they did something illegal it can be voided, same with baseball. American football is a little different where usually only a portion of the contract is fully guaranteed. The nets knew they had to pay him a years salary without playing when they signed him. To get durant any team had to do that.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on November 23, 2020, 03:32:00 AM

LMAO... lots of trade news now, it looks like in the coming season, we are going to see a new players in a team, we should be aware with this too. The future betting will again be affected with these news, so I think I'll just observe before playing a bet again.

So true. It's difficult to keep up and memorize them all.
You will Google always just to be updated.
Although, I am actually better at memorizing names after watching them play. Grin

Quote from: Ziskinberg on November 23, 2020, 07:57:25 AM

I have a little question, does the nets paid him last season despite not playing?

Yes, it's a contract.
Anything bad happens to them, they will still get paid.
If he tries to use the player option then the same amount should be paid by the team that will absorb him.
CP3 is a good example of that as of now. That's also the reason why they are aiming for a full contract. As long as it's really high.

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Yeah, Durant got paid even though he didn't play. Even when teams can go for salary exemption for players who close out a season, like what warriors did this year for Klay Thompson, they still have to pay the player the full salary, the difference is, they can remove a certain part of their salary from salary cap in order to get more players. So, they paid 41 million for Durant but got something like 11 or so millions of that removed from salary cap just for the looks, and probably didn't even used it for anything but tax exemption.

I am still waiting for this Harden news to hit, that would be something superb for Nets but it looks like Rockets are not willing to give Harden for small assets, they want something huge which I understand but it is also not cool to keep player who wants to leave as well.

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Siakam doesn't really look like he is going to be a bad player, dude definitely balled out the year they became champions, which made him deserve that huge contract as well because he is definitely a player everyone would want, someone who can shoot, drive, pass, rebound and defend is not something you find that easily. However he had a bad bump during bubble period, that happens, maybe he didn't feel comfortable enough in the bubble, or the break was too much for him, I am sure when he comes back and plays during this regular season and when they go to playoffs, he will not have the same troubles and would probably play like he used to. Just because he had a bad month we can't say he is not a good player at all.

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What a good amount for the contract of Vanvleet.
Raptors agree to huge four-year deal with Fred VanVleet
$85-m for his four year contract.

He's worth every penny. He had been improving a lot every year.

Agree with you, he is one of the reason why Raptors had its first championship, and last playoffs, he was very consistent.

Yes, his improvement can't be ignored through his NBA career. Toronto's taking good care of him. If most of the teams are like this for their players that are contributing very well, they'll get to see better performance from that player.
Good choice for Toronto.

One bad example is Siakam which was signed at $130 million for 4 years, but look at his performance during the Bubble.

Although his not impressive this year but I think we cannot determine that he's doesn't deserve on his contract, remember he is one of the key component on why raptors win the champ that's why he deserve the contract and maybe for now siakam is afraid on doing a contact to the other people since we know covid-19 still here so maybe that one bothered him so maybe let's excuse him for this season only and just give a verdict on next season if he s play the same then we can tell that he truly not deserve the contract.

He actually deserve the contract he have signed. Siakam is a good addition to any team and his value remains the same even the bad performance in the bubble (which was understandable because of the current pandemic). He was excellent in 2019 NBA finals, I don't think that's a bad contract as the Raptors is keeping him.

That's why I disagree to those people who tells that he doesn't deserve the huge contract since they under performed this season since for sure everything will be changed on next season, Siakam known to be a great player so no wonder improvements will drop down and for sure Siakam will comeback with a revenge.

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