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Quote from: goinmerry on April 04, 2020, 07:42:13 PM

Given the current situation, big people behind NBA starting from team owners to players surely will not have a problem with contract adjustments. Soon, they will rise up again once the situation got back to normal so a bit of sacrifice is necessary at these times.

They have to understand each other, team owners and the players both suffers on this pandemic, in short they both lose money.

For players, I thought they only lose the opportunity to earn when they got suspended, injured and after no one will pick them, and I'm sure this kind of situation is something new, they haven't experience it in their life so they are also facing some problem now, at least some of them.

We know that NBA players making big money, but if they don't know how to save on this kind of situation, then they are struggling and might be complaining now, but at the end of the day they'll realize it's a global pandemic that stop most of the sporting events.

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Quote from: freedomgo on April 04, 2020, 08:47:05 AM

These businessmen will not allow that they will lose money, they are in the business for a very long time, NBA players are making millions but they are making more, so there's always an adjustment of the current contract when the season will be cancelled.

I'm sure the discussion of how to work for that is now taking place. NBA team owners already anticipated that something like that will happen. And it's now the time they need to take some action. After all, all businesses experienced the same.

Given the current situation, big people behind NBA starting from team owners to players surely will not have a problem with contract adjustments. Soon, they will rise up again once the situation got back to normal so a bit of sacrifice is necessary at these times.

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Asking for a 50% cut is actually quite reasonable, I understand that players played 60 games and not half like 41 games but at the same time this is asked from only the players and nobody else, there are a lot of people working in NBA and not just players, from high end stuff like coaches for example, to lower end like beer stand dudes who work hourly, does it really make sense to ask those people to take a cut?

You can ask it from players who are getting paid millions, you can also ask from staff at most but even when we are talking about staff I think head coaches are the only ones, when you go lower like scouts or something they are not really making all that much neither, certainly a good job but not all that high end to give up 50% of their income. I hope they will find a middle ground between 25% and 50% and not really destroy the salary cap while doing so.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on April 04, 2020, 06:14:56 AM

I don't know about the law though. Perhaps they will also need the help of the players association so that players could sign an agreement.
A lot of money will be at stake here. They don't want their own employer which is NBA to go bankrupt or else they will lose their own jobs as a basketball player.

The management would ask for cooperation and that would be very easy for all of them. This is all about cooperation and understanding, the players who are in contract can easily understand the situation. They knew it that no money is coming inside the association and they will be the first one to be hit by the effect of it. The contract can be adjusted and they might apply the common exception that in every rule, it can be applied.

As long as they are protected by law the players can agree in order to help the business, you are right since they are going to be affected if ever that this business collapsed so it's really up to how they will agree from the settlement and how it will gives fair judgement for both sides.
Cooperation is the best solution and not anything else, both parties should bring good desire to solve this concern.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on April 04, 2020, 06:14:56 AM

I don't know about the law though. Perhaps they will also need the help of the players association so that players could sign an agreement.
A lot of money will be at stake here. They don't want their own employer which is NBA to go bankrupt or else they will lose their own jobs as a basketball player.

The management would ask for cooperation and that would be very easy for all of them. This is all about cooperation and understanding, the players who are in contract can easily understand the situation. They knew it that no money is coming inside the association and they will be the first one to be hit by the effect of it. The contract can be adjusted and they might apply the common exception that in every rule, it can be applied.

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Quote from: freedomgo on April 04, 2020, 08:47:05 AM

Quote from: Viscore on April 04, 2020, 06:26:02 AM

Quote from: danherbias07 on April 04, 2020, 06:14:56 AM

I don't know about the law though. Perhaps they will also need the help of the players association so that players could sign an agreement.
A lot of money will be at stake here. They don't want their own employer which is NBA to go bankrupt or else they will lose their own jobs as a basketball player.

We can actually make it simple, we can use simple analysis here.

When the business is not making money, there is no need to pay the employees which are the players, and I believe the law within the NBA should be favorable to the owner and the management. with the season being cancelled, players should not receive what they are expected to, since they will also not gonna play.

These businessmen will not allow that they will lose money, they are in the business for a very long time, NBA players are making millions but they are making more, so there's always an adjustment of the current contract when the season will be cancelled.

And that will be a lot of money to cut.
The playoffs and the Finals is where they got a lot of attention.
Pay per view, tickets and local channels trying to buy even just 1 game to gain popularity with their local watchers.
Then there is large pile of advertisements that would want even just 5 seconds of the streaming break.

They can manage it but they will lose a lot.
I remember last time they want to cut the number of games because they are also losing money.
Something like the lockout.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011%E2%80%9312_NBA_season

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_bargaining
This one is worse.

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Quote from: Viscore on April 04, 2020, 06:26:02 AM

Quote from: danherbias07 on April 04, 2020, 06:14:56 AM

I don't know about the law though. Perhaps they will also need the help of the players association so that players could sign an agreement.
A lot of money will be at stake here. They don't want their own employer which is NBA to go bankrupt or else they will lose their own jobs as a basketball player.

We can actually make it simple, we can use simple analysis here.

When the business is not making money, there is no need to pay the employees which are the players, and I believe the law within the NBA should be favorable to the owner and the management. with the season being cancelled, players should not receive what they are expected to, since they will also not gonna play.

These businessmen will not allow that they will lose money, they are in the business for a very long time, NBA players are making millions but they are making more, so there's always an adjustment of the current contract when the season will be cancelled.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on April 04, 2020, 06:14:56 AM

Quote from: boyptc on April 04, 2020, 02:29:58 AM

What if someone didn't agree of what they are asking?

Well, that will be their problem since they are all in contract.
But here is the thing. They are all in NBA contract and if it is the management who will change something then it can happen.

I don't know about the law though. Perhaps they will also need the help of the players association so that players could sign an agreement.
A lot of money will be at stake here. They don't want their own employer which is NBA to go bankrupt or else they will lose their own jobs as a basketball player.

Outcome would depend on how many would agree vs players who do disagree to alter or trying to change the contract.They wont have any choice but to deal with it.

Come to think that you've been paid on a certain contract on a specific duration for you to play and now we are on a global problem which do mainly affect the entire association.

Its just too inconsiderate of yours if you do try to argue or would oppose such agreement.Its just right to have negotiation on what would be the best solution on this current situation
in terms of pay of each player.

Im sure lots of would agree but we cant deny that there would be oppositions.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on April 04, 2020, 06:14:56 AM

I don't know about the law though. Perhaps they will also need the help of the players association so that players could sign an agreement.
A lot of money will be at stake here. They don't want their own employer which is NBA to go bankrupt or else they will lose their own jobs as a basketball player.

We can actually make it simple, we can use simple analysis here.

When the business is not making money, there is no need to pay the employees which are the players, and I believe the law within the NBA should be favorable to the owner and the management. with the season being cancelled, players should not receive what they are expected to, since they will also not gonna play.

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Quote from: boyptc on April 04, 2020, 02:29:58 AM

Quote from: danherbias07 on April 04, 2020, 02:06:50 AM

Quote from: boyptc on April 03, 2020, 11:34:00 PM

NBA is losing a lot of money and this have a domino effect to the casinos too. They're asking for this.

--> https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/coronavirus-nba-wants-players-to-take-50-percent-pay-cut-union-counters-with-25-percent-per-report/

Looks like my prediction is coming true.

Quote from: danherbias07 on April 03, 2020, 08:40:02 AM

I know they need profit since players are in contracts. There is a solution though.
Talk to the players and breach that contract just this once since this kind of events are never predicted.
I bet some of them will agree with it since there is no money coming in.

There is nowhere to run anymore.
NBA is having a hard time to make some solution with the financial crisis that is happening.
They need money flowing but there is none and yet they will still need to pay for the contract.
Again, I hope this is going to be a peaceful talk with the players and management.

Woah, you really have said it just yesterday. That's very much the solution as they have been into expenses as well but without coming in for the cash flow. NBA players have made that much and it's ok for them because everyone is in bad situation.

What if someone didn't agree of what they are asking?

Well, that will be their problem since they are all in contract.
But here is the thing. They are all in NBA contract and if it is the management who will change something then it can happen.

I don't know about the law though. Perhaps they will also need the help of the players association so that players could sign an agreement.
A lot of money will be at stake here. They don't want their own employer which is NBA to go bankrupt or else they will lose their own jobs as a basketball player.

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Quote from: mich on April 04, 2020, 03:59:17 AM

NBA focused on figuring out plan for possible canceled season, report says

"The talks between the players union and the league this week, I've talked to both sides of this issue, and it is clear that the NBA is angling to set up a deal that enables them to shut the season down," Windhorst said. "Now they don't have to do that yet, and the way they're negotiating they're leaving themselves an option either way, but they're not having talks about how to restart the league, they're having financial talks about what would happen if the season shuts down, and I think there is a significant amount of pessimism right now."

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba-focused-on-figuring-out-plan-for-possible-canceled-season-report-says/

Though I love to see NBA games daily but right now I would agree that this is the right idea, people are suffering therefore they should focus on finding ways to solve the pandemic, I know NBA is a big organization, they are capable financially and I think this time the private organization can also help the people who are affected with the pandemic.

Let us accept that it will really happen, no NBA soon, we will wait for the new season to come.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on April 04, 2020, 02:06:50 AM

Quote from: boyptc on April 03, 2020, 11:34:00 PM

NBA is losing a lot of money and this have a domino effect to the casinos too. They're asking for this.

--> https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/coronavirus-nba-wants-players-to-take-50-percent-pay-cut-union-counters-with-25-percent-per-report/

Looks like my prediction is coming true.

Quote from: danherbias07 on April 03, 2020, 08:40:02 AM

I know they need profit since players are in contracts. There is a solution though.
Talk to the players and breach that contract just this once since this kind of events are never predicted.
I bet some of them will agree with it since there is no money coming in.

There is nowhere to run anymore.
NBA is having a hard time to make some solution with the financial crisis that is happening.
They need money flowing but there is none and yet they will still need to pay for the contract.
Again, I hope this is going to be a peaceful talk with the players and management.

That's the best option that they've got for now, players who have compassion will agree and those who are in greed will not. It's how things will be talked and how both parties will agree upon, there's no guarantee if how long it will take before the resume so it's needed for everyone to help each other.

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Quote from: cryptoaddictchie on April 04, 2020, 02:57:26 AM

Quote from: boyptc on April 03, 2020, 11:34:00 PM

NBA is losing a lot of money and this have a domino effect to the casinos too. They're asking for this.

--> https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/coronavirus-nba-wants-players-to-take-50-percent-pay-cut-union-counters-with-25-percent-per-report/

This is expected. Of course they are not the only one that has been affected. I guess all businesses and all employees on some other sector are nearly gain flat line when it comes to income. This isnt made the NBA players exempted from that.

We all tend to agree that players from NBA has a pretty good pay right? So I think they will agree to the terms as pertained but of course this should be on case to case basis approach.

Example:
Team Utaz Jazz are forced to do lay off on some of their non player staff, due to virus and lessen some compensation of their regular staff, who else would not follow through as the crisis eating too much money. As this event extended expect more teams to follow the suit of laying off.

They should have some emergency fund in the future for this kind of incident. I guess the virus will teach a lot of lesson for the NBA franchise and other related franchises to cover at least a month up to a half year of coverage for expenses in situations like this.

Players who have made already good fortune with the league are more than willing to accept this.

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NBA focused on figuring out plan for possible canceled season, report says

"The talks between the players union and the league this week, I've talked to both sides of this issue, and it is clear that the NBA is angling to set up a deal that enables them to shut the season down," Windhorst said. "Now they don't have to do that yet, and the way they're negotiating they're leaving themselves an option either way, but they're not having talks about how to restart the league, they're having financial talks about what would happen if the season shuts down, and I think there is a significant amount of pessimism right now."

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba-focused-on-figuring-out-plan-for-possible-canceled-season-report-says/

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Quote from: boyptc on April 03, 2020, 11:34:00 PM

NBA is losing a lot of money and this have a domino effect to the casinos too. They're asking for this.

--> https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/coronavirus-nba-wants-players-to-take-50-percent-pay-cut-union-counters-with-25-percent-per-report/

This is expected. Of course they are not the only one that has been affected. I guess all businesses and all employees on some other sector are nearly gain flat line when it comes to income. This isnt made the NBA players exempted from that.

We all tend to agree that players from NBA has a pretty good pay right? So I think they will agree to the terms as pertained but of course this should be on case to case basis approach.

Example:
Team Utaz Jazz are forced to do lay off on some of their non player staff, due to virus and lessen some compensation of their regular staff, who else would not follow through as the crisis eating too much money. As this event extended expect more teams to follow the suit of laying off.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on April 04, 2020, 02:06:50 AM

Quote from: boyptc on April 03, 2020, 11:34:00 PM

NBA is losing a lot of money and this have a domino effect to the casinos too. They're asking for this.

--> https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/coronavirus-nba-wants-players-to-take-50-percent-pay-cut-union-counters-with-25-percent-per-report/

Looks like my prediction is coming true.

Quote from: danherbias07 on April 03, 2020, 08:40:02 AM

I know they need profit since players are in contracts. There is a solution though.
Talk to the players and breach that contract just this once since this kind of events are never predicted.
I bet some of them will agree with it since there is no money coming in.

There is nowhere to run anymore.
NBA is having a hard time to make some solution with the financial crisis that is happening.
They need money flowing but there is none and yet they will still need to pay for the contract.
Again, I hope this is going to be a peaceful talk with the players and management.

Woah, you really have said it just yesterday. That's very much the solution as they have been into expenses as well but without coming in for the cash flow. NBA players have made that much and it's ok for them because everyone is in bad situation.

What if someone didn't agree of what they are asking?

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Quote from: boyptc on April 03, 2020, 11:34:00 PM

NBA is losing a lot of money and this have a domino effect to the casinos too. They're asking for this.

--> https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/coronavirus-nba-wants-players-to-take-50-percent-pay-cut-union-counters-with-25-percent-per-report/

Looks like my prediction is coming true.

Quote from: danherbias07 on April 03, 2020, 08:40:02 AM

I know they need profit since players are in contracts. There is a solution though.
Talk to the players and breach that contract just this once since this kind of events are never predicted.
I bet some of them will agree with it since there is no money coming in.

There is nowhere to run anymore.
NBA is having a hard time to make some solution with the financial crisis that is happening.
They need money flowing but there is none and yet they will still need to pay for the contract.
Again, I hope this is going to be a peaceful talk with the players and management.

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Quote from: Reid on April 03, 2020, 10:54:26 PM

Quote from: morvillz7z on April 03, 2020, 06:16:11 PM

It looks like this year's Basketball HOF inductees will be Kobe Bryant, Tim Duncan, and Kevin Garnett.

Probably one of the best classes ever, 11 rings combined, that's a lot of hardware right there. Too bad we won't able to hear Kobe's speech.

Shams tweeted about it an hour ago: https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1246176600808394752

Oh God! How I miss that guy.
He could have been very helpful by now with all his knowledge. Maybe push a better option into how they could make it happen.
He is also becoming one of the greatest analyst in the field of basketball since he is a genius but we won't even hear a single thing from him in HOF.

Anyway, (I don't want this to be a sad thread again) Duncan is still there and so is KG.
I remember KG more from the movie Uncut Gems. Damn good acting there.

Duncan though might give us some good speech. Let's see.

From this two left, I do agree that we should expect more words from KG as his personalities being that talkative hope there's a lots of good vibes out from his mouth, unlike Tim where every words are limited as he has this kind of attitude hopefully things will still be fine knowing that the virus are spreading and remembering Kobe, it will be an emotional awarding.

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NBA is losing a lot of money and this have a domino effect to the casinos too. They're asking for this.

--> https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/coronavirus-nba-wants-players-to-take-50-percent-pay-cut-union-counters-with-25-percent-per-report/

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Quote from: morvillz7z on April 03, 2020, 06:16:11 PM

It looks like this year's Basketball HOF inductees will be Kobe Bryant, Tim Duncan, and Kevin Garnett.

Probably one of the best classes ever, 11 rings combined, that's a lot of hardware right there. Too bad we won't able to hear Kobe's speech.

Shams tweeted about it an hour ago: https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1246176600808394752

Oh God! How I miss that guy.
He could have been very helpful by now with all his knowledge. Maybe push a better option into how they could make it happen.
He is also becoming one of the greatest analyst in the field of basketball since he is a genius but we won't even hear a single thing from him in HOF.

Anyway, (I don't want this to be a sad thread again) Duncan is still there and so is KG.
I remember KG more from the movie Uncut Gems. Damn good acting there.

Duncan though might give us some good speech. Let's see.

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