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Quote from: Reid on July 30, 2020, 12:28:39 AM

Quote from: Ziskinberg on July 29, 2020, 04:53:51 PM

Team record always matters but like I said, there might be a lot of surprises in the bubble.
NBA has been off for awhile, they just resume and not in their comfortable places.

Those surprises could be anything.
We don't have a lot of media personnel inside.
Some of the news we rely on NBA being transparent but, it doesn't always end that way.

That's good, we don't have a lot of media to cover the event, so I guess I would be betting on the underdog team as people might think the favorites will always win, talking about gambling here, hopefully everyone who are here are also gambling in NBA IRL.

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We may be shocked that one player just suddenly didn't play without even giving away the reasons.

I don't expect this, he might get sanction.

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Quote from: Kasabus on July 30, 2020, 05:41:48 AM

With his contract will expire soon and there was a news before that he will signed a supermax deal with his current team, do you think that covid-19 will affect it and the amount might not be realize as it could reduce?

Open opinion about this, Bucks will not think about it as they've known that Giannis will receive more offers if they'll not
going to sign him with this Max salary. NBA have a lots of twist and even this pandemic will not stop franchise to spare
money to get star player like him,
it's a money talk and for sure it will be more lauder than this current virus.

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Quote from: Rosilito on July 30, 2020, 06:54:14 AM

Quote from: Kasabus on July 30, 2020, 05:41:48 AM

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With his contract will expire soon and there was a news before that he will signed a supermax deal with his current team, do you think that covid-19 will affect it and the amount might not be realize as it could reduce?

Yep, it could be reduced, I guess? Huh

Not quite sure though but it's been a struggle to generate income since lockdown, the same time the league forces to close their doors temporarily. And now that they are back into operation, their revenue mostly comes from television, or whatsoever. And ticket sales which plays a big part on how they make money is currently out of the story Undecided

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Reduced is better than stop, the reason why the NBA resume because they still want their people to have their job, so even if the salary will decrease, I think everyone would understand as the situation currently is not a joke.

As stated in the previous post, biggest part of their income are from ticket sales, average income daily for teams are $1 million USD IIRC.
So they are losing $1 million daily because they will play without the fans.

Quote from: Rosilito on July 30, 2020, 06:54:14 AM

I am not so sure, man. 'Cause, we don't even know, what exactly is happening behind. You know... they might have some stock out there, just reserved for their player's salary.

Probably, or borrow money from bank too.

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Quote from: Kasabus on July 30, 2020, 05:41:48 AM

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With his contract will expire soon and there was a news before that he will signed a supermax deal with his current team, do you think that covid-19 will affect it and the amount might not be realize as it could reduce?

Yep, it could be reduced, I guess? Huh

Not quite sure though but it's been a struggle to generate income since lockdown, the same time the league forces to close their doors temporarily. And now that they are back into operation, their revenue mostly comes from television, or whatsoever. And ticket sales which plays a big part on how they make money is currently out of the story Undecided

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I am not so sure, man. 'Cause, we don't even know, what exactly is happening behind. You know... they might have some stock out there, just reserved for their player's salary.

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I'm reading this article now,

The $353M Giannis unknown, LA’s star clash and Simmons’ pressure: NBA storylines

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If the cap isn’t affected by COVID-19, Antetokounmpo will be offered a supermax deal worth $253.8M ($A353M) per current projections. But that money might not matter if the forward can’t see success on the horizon

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2853733-bucks-gm-says-giannis-antetokounmpo-will-be-offered-supermax-contract-in-2020

With his contract will expire soon and there was a news before that he will signed a supermax deal with his current team, do you think that covid-19 will affect it and the amount might not be realize as it could reduce?

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Quote from: rhomelmabini on July 29, 2020, 12:37:02 PM

Right now I am depending on team lineups.

Better, also be updated on who will get out of the bubble due to emergency reasons or if they are suddenly infected by the virus.
It will be a big impact if those names are role players of their respective teams.

Quote from: el kaka22 on July 29, 2020, 04:39:12 PM

Secondly, it matters in the sense that if you are playing 1st seed versus 8th seed, even if there is no home court, there is a psychological fight that goes on when you talk about the difference in talent and there is a reason why first seed is the first seed and the 8th seed is 8th seed for a reason so unless we are talking about 4th versus 5th, it matters to show you are better.

Yeah, they made those screens just for us who are watching in our televisions.
Just to identify whose court it is,.. or not. Grin

Quote from: Ziskinberg on July 29, 2020, 04:53:51 PM

Team record always matters but like I said, there might be a lot of surprises in the bubble.
NBA has been off for awhile, they just resume and not in their comfortable places.

Those surprises could be anything.
We don't have a lot of media personnel inside.
Some of the news we rely on NBA being transparent but, it doesn't always end that way.
We may be shocked that one player just suddenly didn't play without even giving away the reasons.

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Quote from: chaser15 on July 29, 2020, 06:26:55 PM

Quote from: Russlenat on July 29, 2020, 04:38:22 AM

Let's put some figure as evidence to compare the NBA and WNBA market, so we will know why NBA has resume and WNBA didn't

Just in case you missed mate, WNBA resumed their season.

And no need for comparing their market. WNBA only has 12 teams and have a 36 games overall in a season.

WNBA resume is easy to prepare compare to NBA so that's what I'm thinking why they push the resume.

You are right, in fact they have a game now, there's a betting odds available in one of the sportsbook I'm using.

https://nitrogensports.eu/sport/Basketball/4/WNBA

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Fans are not the only factor though, when you are playing home court at your own state, you are at your home, you are with your family, you get out of your own bed, kiss your wife good bye, you talk to your kids and kiss them good bye as well, you eat at your own kitchen, basically you are all doing stuff at your home. Your driver picks you up, he takes you to the court, and from waking up to going to court you do you. When you are at an away game, team picks you up, puts you on a plane, stucks you into a hotel and you go from there with the team bus, nothing remotely similar.

Hence I think now everyone at an even fair. There was few times when 8th seed beat first seed in NBA history, but if there is one potential for something like that, its this year, I could see something like that could happen because this period was a major unseen period.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on July 29, 2020, 04:39:12 PM

Quote from: rhomelmabini on July 29, 2020, 12:37:02 PM

Quote from: Reid on July 29, 2020, 11:58:41 AM

You can see in numbers 1 and 2 of the article he always says. "Anything could happen"
Without the homecourt advantage, any team can win in season or in playoffs.
Might as well ignore those screen that is showing a "homecourt advantage like" basketball floor.
Be careful with your bets.

Right now I am depending on team lineups.

Homecourt reaaaally doesn't mean anything anymore, there is no fans and that is one of the worst parts I do agree with that but there is also literally no "home" court neither, everyone is in Orlando and all games are played in the same places, so there will not be a "home" to anyone at all, everyone will play at the same place and that is why it doesn't matter who finishes where in the seeding as well as long as you go to playoffs.

Secondly, it matters in the sense that if you are playing 1st seed versus 8th seed, even if there is no home court, there is a psychological fight that goes on when you talk about the difference in talent and there is a reason why first seed is the first seed and the 8th seed is 8th seed for a reason so unless we are talking about 4th versus 5th, it matters to show you are better.

Because without the presence of a live audience, homecourt is not a deciding factor in winning a match, now to win the match
there is about talent and determination. So a team that has a good lineup, is very likely to win even if playing away. There is
no more influence playing home, all teams will have the same pressure.

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Quote from: Russlenat on July 29, 2020, 04:38:22 AM

Let's put some figure as evidence to compare the NBA and WNBA market, so we will know why NBA has resume and WNBA didn't

Just in case you missed mate, WNBA resumed their season.

And no need for comparing their market. WNBA only has 12 teams and have a 36 games overall in a season.

WNBA resume is easy to prepare compare to NBA so that's what I'm thinking why they push the resume.

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I guess the rest of our national basketball players is enough to play again, I think they are eager to show because they all have been assigned indoors too long during a lockdown, So if we are thinking about weather condition, we can't deny that it seems like a good tune.2020 NBA is a part of our life to enjoy aside from business, I'm sure that the game can make people happy most especially to all pandemic victims.

Weather condition should not be a problems for the team as they are just playing in one venue, no need for them to travel anymore.
If the weather bad, they can just postpone the game for another day, that's it, and besides NBA is played inside the arena, an indoor type of game.

I know everyone is excited, not only those victims of covid-19 literally as we are all victims of it, it took our freedom to go out and do our usual activity.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on July 29, 2020, 04:39:12 PM

Quote from: rhomelmabini on July 29, 2020, 12:37:02 PM

Quote from: Reid on July 29, 2020, 11:58:41 AM

You can see in numbers 1 and 2 of the article he always says. "Anything could happen"
Without the homecourt advantage, any team can win in season or in playoffs.
Might as well ignore those screen that is showing a "homecourt advantage like" basketball floor.
Be careful with your bets.

Right now I am depending on team lineups.

Homecourt reaaaally doesn't mean anything anymore, there is no fans and that is one of the worst parts I do agree with that but there is also literally no "home" court neither, everyone is in Orlando and all games are played in the same places, so there will not be a "home" to anyone at all, everyone will play at the same place and that is why it doesn't matter who finishes where in the seeding as well as long as you go to playoffs.

This is a different playoffs, it's expected that surprises will happen here.
Bad for the teams who are in the top as they've been playing hard to also get that home court advantage, but in the bubble there will be none.
Anyway, this would give us fans a chance to see if which team are really good even not playing at their home.

Quote from: el kaka22 on July 29, 2020, 04:39:12 PM

Secondly, it matters in the sense that if you are playing 1st seed versus 8th seed, even if there is no home court, there is a psychological fight that goes on when you talk about the difference in talent and there is a reason why first seed is the first seed and the 8th seed is 8th seed for a reason so unless we are talking about 4th versus 5th, it matters to show you are better.

Team record always matters but like I said, there might be a lot of surprises in the bubble.
NBA has been off for awhile, they just resume and not in their comfortable places.

as we can see. https://www.teamrankings.com/nba/stat/win-pct-all-games

Lakers and Bucks owns the most home wins, these are the best teams in the NBA now, but let see if without a home court, they can still be consistent in winning.

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Quote from: rhomelmabini on July 29, 2020, 12:37:02 PM

Quote from: Reid on July 29, 2020, 11:58:41 AM

You can see in numbers 1 and 2 of the article he always says. "Anything could happen"
Without the homecourt advantage, any team can win in season or in playoffs.
Might as well ignore those screen that is showing a "homecourt advantage like" basketball floor.
Be careful with your bets.

Right now I am depending on team lineups.

Homecourt reaaaally doesn't mean anything anymore, there is no fans and that is one of the worst parts I do agree with that but there is also literally no "home" court neither, everyone is in Orlando and all games are played in the same places, so there will not be a "home" to anyone at all, everyone will play at the same place and that is why it doesn't matter who finishes where in the seeding as well as long as you go to playoffs.

Secondly, it matters in the sense that if you are playing 1st seed versus 8th seed, even if there is no home court, there is a psychological fight that goes on when you talk about the difference in talent and there is a reason why first seed is the first seed and the 8th seed is 8th seed for a reason so unless we are talking about 4th versus 5th, it matters to show you are better.

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Quote from: Russlenat on July 29, 2020, 04:38:22 AM

[source] https://www.wsn.com/nba/nba-vs-wnba/

Right now that revenue has surely decreased with the less viewership in TV's, no promotion for months and no tickets to be sold. Well, they can still get revenues from ads on TV but it's really a huge loss on merchandise and tickets I suppose.

Quote from: Reid on July 29, 2020, 11:58:41 AM

You can see in numbers 1 and 2 of the article he always says. "Anything could happen"
Without the homecourt advantage, any team can win in season or in playoffs.
Might as well ignore those screen that is showing a "homecourt advantage like" basketball floor.
Be careful with your bets.

Right now I am depending on team lineups.

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Good read guys.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba-restart-lebron-james-chasing-fourth-ring-kawhi-leonard-as-roaming-assassin-among-20-things-to-watch/
I will grab just a little in that article.

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Milwaukee was on track for 70 wins most of the season. That milestone is out now, but a championship was always the goal, and the Bucks are the favorite to come out of the East. I wouldn't call them the clear favorite. I still question a team that relies on its best player to put his head down and barrel to the rim, and I don't think I'm alone in that.

-(deja vu) Cleveland 2003-2010 and 2014-2018

You can see in numbers 1 and 2 of the article he always says. "Anything could happen"
Without the homecourt advantage, any team can win in season or in playoffs.
Might as well ignore those screen that is showing a "homecourt advantage like" basketball floor.
Be careful with your bets.

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Quote from: Vaculin on July 29, 2020, 07:22:51 AM

NBA are losing money, good thing we have some owner who make this kind of decision just to make the salary of the players intact, but the question is, how long can they bail this corona virus effect? As per the article, majority of the income are coming from ticket sales, it will impact big time since NBA force to resume without a crowd, hence no ticket sales.

More likely they already discussed this matters and come into conclusion that the pandemic will dissapear after the vaccine will be distributed to the world by the Russian Federation which not be that long if God's will. Not just Russia, I heard UK has passed the initial test of their discovered vaccine and might introduce it sooner to their people. more good news are coming, let's hope this will result for us to come back to our normal lives.

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After Kyrie Irving, I think there will be more players that will do the same.

Maybe you're right and some top players will make individual donate or, maybe NBPA will initiate some financial support for staff and players of WNBA.

Of course, this is to support the basketball for this is the mere reason for their living. This is one way to keep the numbers of fan will be able to continue to support the basketball and for that if help is needed to continue then it is a good decision to help. Besides, they too earning huge because of their talent in basket so it is also a way of paying back to the community or the basketball fans.

I don't think it's a thing that is related to keeping the fans but it's a way to give those WNBA players support as they are also struggling this pandemic.
It's not that Kyrie Irving is paying to the basketball fans but he's helping the WNBA players, the athletes who can't do on to play because of the pandemic. Those players that were affected of covid and decided not to play will get support from the fund that he has donated.

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Winding down.

Players of the GSW warriors are lucky.

NBA rumors: Warriors considering $250M deal to help cap issues during virus

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The Warriors are expected to have the NBA's highest payroll next season. With the coronavirus pandemic expected to impact revenue by forcing the NBA to hold games without fans, the Warriors are in search of ways to lessen the blow if Chase Center's doors have to be shuttered.

Owner Joe Lacob reportedly might have found a way to help mitigate the financial impact the virus will have on the Warriors. Lacob informed other owners he's considering a deal with Goldman Sachs that would raise up to $250 million to help with the Warriors' expenses, ESPN's Brain Windhorst reported Monday.

With four players -- Steph Curry, Klay Thompson, Draymond Green and Andrew Wiggins -- slated to make $22 million or more next season and a $17.2 million trade exception to use, the Warriors could use an injection of capital in order to keep their payroll intact.

The NBA informed its owner that 40 percent of the league's revenue comes from ticket sales and in-arena sponsorships. But the Warriors get 80 percent of their income from games at Chase Center and can make around $5 million in one home game, sources told Windhorst. For other teams, the take from a single home game can be less than $2 million, and others make less than $1 million on average.

NBA are losing money, good thing we have some owner who make this kind of decision just to make the salary of the players intact, but the question is, how long can they bail this corona virus effect? As per the article, majority of the income are coming from ticket sales, it will impact big time since NBA force to resume without a crowd, hence no ticket sales.

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Quote from: Japinat on July 29, 2020, 02:09:11 AM

Quote from: Captain Corporate on July 28, 2020, 08:02:59 PM

I do not understand why WNBA is not getting more attention, ....

NBA are getting more attention as most basketball fans are men, just like in any sports, there are boxing for women but most boxing fans are watching the boxing for me. However, there are also games where women are popular, and they are getting attention, just like a volleyball games.

Agree. But let us not stop with that.
I still tune in with WNBA live whenever I have time.
I guess that is the downside. Most men will just watch them if there is nothing exciting about other sports or there is free time.
We should still support them, they also have their charities which plays a big factor for those who are in need.

Quote from: Russlenat on July 29, 2020, 04:38:22 AM

[source] https://www.wsn.com/nba/nba-vs-wnba/

Good find. Thanks.

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Quote from: Russlenat on July 29, 2020, 04:38:22 AM

[~snip~

Huge difference, WNBA almost non existence when compared to NBA.
Look at the revenue, only $60 million, that's even lower than a salary of the 2 highest paid NBA players.

Thanks for the trivia, didn't know that.

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