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Quote from: Reid on June 19, 2020, 06:49:17 AM

Cousins would be a big help for the Wizards or no?
I think the Lakers already have good big mans, they have Howard who is still fully healthy until now, so they can let go of cousins if they want.

What do you think about this one?

There may be another great deal out there.
Dude tore his ACL. Yeah, take him but add an extra.
The injury could come back anytime and where would it leave the Wizards without him?
Chances of this being a large risk deal are high.

I don't know what is going on in John Wall's mind but ain't there any other options?
It's not that I don't believe in the skills of Cousins. It's the injury that I am concerned about.

I agree with you. This guy for 3 years has problems with injuries, and the younger will not be. His health is a great unknown, and form is not certain. Remember that Wall will also come back after a serious injury, it is not known how his body will bear the load. It will be a huge risk to base the team on these two players + Beal. Take him only as a complement to the roster, and if the form and health will be good, Wizards can become one of the leading teams in the East.

It's not really a big problem if they will get Cousins, he is not into a expensive contract anymore since his valued has dropped due to injury, but he can still contribute to the team, getting him doesn't mean he will be a starter, if he is given a limited minutes as long as quality minutes for the team, I think he would be a great help.

His current contract with the Lakers now is only $3,500,000 .

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/los-angeles-lakers/demarcus-cousins-6886/cash-earnings/

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Quote from: Reid on June 19, 2020, 06:49:17 AM

Cousins would be a big help for the Wizards or no?
I think the Lakers already have good big mans, they have Howard who is still fully healthy until now, so they can let go of cousins if they want.

What do you think about this one?

There may be another great deal out there.
Dude tore his ACL. Yeah, take him but add an extra.
The injury could come back anytime and where would it leave the Wizards without him?
Chances of this being a large risk deal are high.

I don't know what is going on in John Wall's mind but ain't there any other options?
It's not that I don't believe in the skills of Cousins. It's the injury that I am concerned about.

I agree with you. This guy for 3 years has problems with injuries, and the younger will not be. His health is a great unknown, and form is not certain. Remember that Wall will also come back after a serious injury, it is not known how his body will bear the load. It will be a huge risk to base the team on these two players + Beal. Take him only as a complement to the roster, and if the form and health will be good, Wizards can become one of the leading teams in the East.

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Cousins would be a big help for the Wizards or no?
I think the Lakers already have good big mans, they have Howard who is still fully healthy until now, so they can let go of cousins if they want.

What do you think about this one?

There may be another great deal out there.
Dude tore his ACL. Yeah, take him but add an extra.
The injury could come back anytime and where would it leave the Wizards without him?
Chances of this being a large risk deal are high.

I don't know what is going on in John Wall's mind but ain't there any other options?
It's not that I don't believe in the skills of Cousins. It's the injury that I am concerned about.

That's also my point, Cousin's is very prone to injury, he was even injured before the NBA started its season and he hasn't played a single game in the current season. Cousin's made some good contribution to the warriors but he wasn't really that healthy with the Warriors as he was also injured many times, so you are right, it could come back anytime as cousin been so fragile already.

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Quote from: Reid on June 18, 2020, 10:17:03 PM

Cousins would be a big help for the Wizards or no?
I think the Lakers already have good big mans, they have Howard who is still fully healthy until now, so they can let go of cousins if they want.

What do you think about this one?

There may be another great deal out there.
Dude tore his ACL. Yeah, take him but add an extra.
The injury could come back anytime and where would it leave the Wizards without him?
Chances of this being a large risk deal are high.

I don't know what is going on in John Wall's mind but ain't there any other options?
It's not that I don't believe in the skills of Cousins. It's the injury that I am concerned about.

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John Wall says he is pushing Wizards to sign DeMarcus Cousins

Cousins would be a big help for the Wizards or no?
I think the Lakers already have good big mans, they have Howard who is still fully healthy until now, so they can let go of cousins if they want.

What do you think about this one?

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Will this sound effects be bias too?
Let us say it should be Lakers Home. Will those claps and screams be operated only whenever a Laker shoots the ball?
Do we have a credible link to read about this?
Been searching on google but I can't find it.

I am thinking more about their training.
Are they being trained now to minimize the handshakes, hand taps whenever they shoot the ball, or an assist was made, spitting, huddle, distancing at the bench, and if you fall no one will help you?
Those small things which they do will be gone. Right?

Oh! when they fight, they cannot do that head to head almost kissing thing which is a specialty of KD. Grin

I think I know how does it look like when they play with only sound effects instead of audiences. I have downloaded moded NBA games back in 2018 where there were no audiences the only thing you can hear is the sound effect when they shoot the ball and the referee's whistles when they fouled. No one shouts like "overrated" and audience's praising or taunt words written in white cardboard.

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Quote from: Captain Corporate on June 17, 2020, 03:58:14 PM

They are definitely hit financially but not enough to be incapable of paying 3 million dollars for hotel expenses. NBA itself could pay those if they want to with all the sales they get and all the licenses and tv rights and so forth. However do not forget that team owners are not just doing this as a job, they also usually have other jobs they make money as well and 3 million dollars for a person who owns a team that worths over a billion dollars is usually nothing, not even increase of the teams value which would be tenfold each season at least. So at the end of the day they will definitely pay it up easily without a problem, hell having 8 games would cover that 3 million dollars alone with tv rights alone even if no fans and no merchandise sales.

Agreed. Similar to what Dana White of the UFC has told everyone in a press conference, continuing to produce live sports is more expensive than closing down during this pandemic.

If this is true, then why did they resume the UFC?

Maybe it's true that it's expensive but they would not resume if they are not profitable, they have a big expense, so they need to exceed that with their income so they will operate profitably.

Compared to not resuming at all, no expenses or less expenses but people working on UFC does not have income, so they will struggle.

Dana considers the expenses similar to an investment. The ratings of the UFC has risen compared to before the coronavirus. It introduced mixed martial arts to new viewers because Dana is the only sports commisioner offering live sports.

The investment might create more profit back later after the pandemic.

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Quote from: Captain Corporate on June 18, 2020, 04:39:01 PM

I know 2K sounds would be not that cool, however the other option would be basically playing in total silence. I do not really think that would be a better option. There will also be bench players on both sides as well, which will have a big role to play, everyone on the bench has to make as much noise as they can as frequently and constantly as they can. That would make a difference, if your bench is silent and not saying a word while the other teams bench is yelling and screaming, you will be in a road game, if its vice versa its a home game, so both teams need to make as much noise as they can to not give advantage to other team. 2K sounds will just be addition to that just to make sure its not total silence at all times.

Will this sound effects be bias too?
Let us say it should be Lakers Home. Will those claps and screams be operated only whenever a Laker shoots the ball?
Do we have a credible link to read about this?
Been searching on google but I can't find it.

I am thinking more about their training.
Are they being trained now to minimize the handshakes, hand taps whenever they shoot the ball, or an assist was made, spitting, huddle, distancing at the bench, and if you fall no one will help you?
Those small things which they do will be gone. Right?

Oh! when they fight, they cannot do that head to head almost kissing thing which is a specialty of KD. Grin

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I know 2K sounds would be not that cool, however the other option would be basically playing in total silence. I do not really think that would be a better option. There will also be bench players on both sides as well, which will have a big role to play, everyone on the bench has to make as much noise as they can as frequently and constantly as they can. That would make a difference, if your bench is silent and not saying a word while the other teams bench is yelling and screaming, you will be in a road game, if its vice versa its a home game, so both teams need to make as much noise as they can to not give advantage to other team. 2K sounds will just be addition to that just to make sure its not total silence at all times.

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Quote from: TheGreatPython on June 18, 2020, 11:18:26 AM

I think there was talks about a deal between NBA and NBA2K so that they would put 2K crowd noises in the arena as well. I am sure it wouldn't be remotely the same because hearing it right near you versus hearing it from the big speakers will be hugely different but it is not going to be something totally irrelevant. 2K got those sounds from the real games themselves, it is real sounds from real fans in real games so it is not totally different from the real thing.

For real? It would be awkward for the players.
I think they would rather play like a streetball kind of game. Fans are your teammates.

Quote from: TheGreatPython on June 18, 2020, 11:18:26 AM

The biggest difference is the sounds will be similar, so when you dunk 10 times in a game you will hear the same cheer at least 2-3 times and when you shoot threes 20 times as a team you will hear the same cheer at least 5-6 times. That could really get into your head and make you play more emotionless which could help some players but hurt some others.

Yeah, it's too fake. Let's see how they will react in this when the game starts.
Are we going to see laughs on the bench? Grin

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I think there was talks about a deal between NBA and NBA2K so that they would put 2K crowd noises in the arena as well. I am sure it wouldn't be remotely the same because hearing it right near you versus hearing it from the big speakers will be hugely different but it is not going to be something totally irrelevant. 2K got those sounds from the real games themselves, it is real sounds from real fans in real games so it is not totally different from the real thing.

The biggest difference is the sounds will be similar, so when you dunk 10 times in a game you will hear the same cheer at least 2-3 times and when you shoot threes 20 times as a team you will hear the same cheer at least 5-6 times. That could really get into your head and make you play more emotionless which could help some players but hurt some others.

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Quote from: Rosilito on June 18, 2020, 06:40:37 AM

As you can see, they use stuffed toys in replacement for audience for the time being. Kind of weird though Grin

but it is better than leaving those thousand of seats empty Tongue

. I can't imagine Adam Silver would approve this idea Cheesy

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Haha, a good solution indeed. Grin

It doesn't feel right if you are either watching or playing live without people around.
At least now all the seats are really taken.
How much did they pay? Those sideline seats might be expensive. Cheesy

Quote from: Vaculin on June 18, 2020, 06:40:48 AM

Anyway, I'm looking forward for a more positive update regarding the resumption of the NBA.

There's no definite date yet, right?

It's July 31 but they changed it to July 30. Cheesy

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Quote from: boyptc on June 17, 2020, 07:54:23 AM

He's denying the allegations. I don't mind if it's true or not.

But this is now the hard part starts for the league. The division for the decision of their players will start to crumble but at the end of the day, they have to understand that it's the league that has to be followed, not them following themselves.

It matters if you are playing in the same team while you have a different belief.
Racism and then pandemic issue.
It just keeps on getting worse.
These players should start with something.
Showcase unity using their career in hoops and bring people together once again in a peaceful manner.

We as fans, we need that in this very bad days of our lives.
We need hope and somehow they might provide it if we see them playing.
With precautions because we all want them safe too.

I like that. They should instead bring unity and not division.

In this pandemic times, the division will only bring no good because of everyone's belief to be good and not.

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Quote from: Oasisman on June 18, 2020, 05:17:38 AM

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba-restart-what-we-learned-from-the-leagues-113-page-health-and-safety-document/

Anyone up to a long reading for 113 health and safety documents? Grin

I sure hope they gave up on that idea, for their own safety.

Exactly. More people involved, more risks from contracting the virus.
That's not gonna work I guess. If they seriously need to resume, they need to minimize the people who's coming in from the facility that their playing into, in Orlando to be specific.
I understand how boring the game could be without the crowd, the families, and even friends, just the players from each team, coaches, and staff. But this is business, they need to sacrifice.

Agree with that, even if it's their family, we never know if they are carrying the virus as only the NBA players are betting monitored, they just give a little sacrifice as this is just temporary, they need to do this for the sake of safety resuming the season and they can finish it without problems relating to corona virus. I understand that it's a hard sacrifice not seeing their family, but for once, they have to do this as they are earning well and it's their job to make this business alive again by give the entertainment to the fans.

That's the right term, they need to sacrifice because they are a warrior that needs o provide entertain to us in this tough situation we are facing now.
If soldiers that earns only a little salary, I think they can also do that as they are earning millions.

Anyway, I'm looking forward for a more positive update regarding the resumption of the NBA.

There's no definite date yet, right?

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https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba-restart-what-we-learned-from-the-leagues-113-page-health-and-safety-document/

Anyone up to a long reading for 113 health and safety documents? Grin

I think I will pass that, reading article was enough. But I would appreciate some tl;dr version, if anyone can bother Cheesy

I think, I'll pass too as I don't even read terms & conditions sometimes LOL Cheesy

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Quote from: Reid on June 18, 2020, 04:53:54 AM

I don't know about players though. If their families will be joining them and cannot even watch them live then there is no point.
Let them stay at home.
I know they want even just a little amount of fans on the sideline for more authorities with their dunks and threes. Cheesy

But, it's better to be safe at this time first.

Quote from: Oasisman on June 18, 2020, 05:17:38 AM

Exactly. More people involved, more risks from contracting the virus.
That's not gonna work I guess. If they seriously need to resume, they need to minimize the people who's coming in from the facility that their playing into, in Orlando to be specific.
I understand how boring the game could be without the crowd, the families, and even friends, just the players from each team, coaches, and staff. But this is business, they need to sacrifice.

Audience problems? Grin

I think I found a hilarious solution LOL.

From Korean baseball league:

(Photo not mine)
Source: https://rojakdaily.com/lifestyle/article/9691/best-audience-ever-south-korean-baseball-game-uses-stuffed-animals-to-fill-up-seats

As you can see, they use stuffed toys in replacement for audience for the time being. Kind of weird though Grin

but it is better than leaving those thousand of seats empty Tongue

. I can't imagine Adam Silver would approve this idea Cheesy

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Quote from: Oasisman on June 18, 2020, 05:17:38 AM

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba-restart-what-we-learned-from-the-leagues-113-page-health-and-safety-document/

Anyone up to a long reading for 113 health and safety documents? Grin

I sure hope they gave up on that idea, for their own safety.

Exactly. More people involved, more risks from contracting the virus.
That's not gonna work I guess. If they seriously need to resume, they need to minimize the people who's coming in from the facility that their playing into, in Orlando to be specific.
I understand how boring the game could be without the crowd, the families, and even friends, just the players from each team, coaches, and staff. But this is business, they need to sacrifice.

Agree with that, even if it's their family, we never know if they are carrying the virus as only the NBA players are betting monitored, they just give a little sacrifice as this is just temporary, they need to do this for the sake of safety resuming the season and they can finish it without problems relating to corona virus. I understand that it's a hard sacrifice not seeing their family, but for once, they have to do this as they are earning well and it's their job to make this business alive again by give the entertainment to the fans.

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