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Quote from: Captain Corporate on June 13, 2020, 10:37:59 AM

Maybe the NBA’s Return Won’t Be As Easy As It Seemed

Not to burst your bubble, but players are beginning to voice unease over restrictions and health protocols in the “campus environment” at Disney World

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2020/6/12/21289757/nba-return-bubble

There are now those players that don't want to proceed with the restart because of having no audience. Having supporters cheering for their team really is a big factor.

They are under on a contract, they will have to participate as that is part of their job, they will only be excuse if they have a valid reason.
If they will not participate they will break the contract and they will be sued which might affect their future in the NBA.
We are talking of huge money here as per their contract, especially the star players so it's a big lost for the players as NBA can always find a player that would play for a certain team.

I have watched a video on youtube saying that if the player will not be punished if they don't want to play this time. Yes it is part of their job as a player and they are under a contract but I think the health of every player is more important right now than the contract. Players didn't want this to happen and no one want too but if I'm on their situation, I will not risk my life too unless there are very strict guidelines that will be implemented but I'm not in a 100% condition still.

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This argument is not only over players coming back during this pandemic process which is still a bad thing and players should be protected with the upmost importance and should spend millions of dollars just for the safety of the players.

However this is also about George Floyd, this is about police brutality, this is about players having one platform which is games that they can use to voice their concerns with the world and by not playing and sitting out they could easily get a lot of attention. When one guy kneels you can discredit him, when an entire league decides to not play you can't just discredit the entire league (well you can try, but only your followers will listen while others mock you). So all in all this is a stand up against the system as well.

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I am sure this will turn out to be a bigger deal and there were other players but whenever I see Kyrie Irving name I just can't take it seriously, he was the guy who kept saying the earth is flat. He declined to answer if what he thought was earth is flat or was it more like do your own research on subjects idealogy that he was promoting but at the same time its still saying earth is flat so I can't take him seriously. Over the course of years he has said sooooo many idiotic things that even when he says something as serious as this, I can't take him seriously Cheesy

We cannot base an individual working brain just because of what he believe in.
An election happened before he became VP of the players association so I think many players do believe on his insights.

On another note, I haven't thought players have that kind of gripe over the NBA decision. I thought it was all okay for them and they are preparing.
They should've come forward earlier for this to be discussed longer.
But I think they found George Floyd matter as more important than it, which is cool for me.

Will this heat up the discussion and amend the date for the game to be resumed or will they just abide by the decision the NBA made?

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I am sure this will turn out to be a bigger deal and there were other players but whenever I see Kyrie Irving name I just can't take it seriously, he was the guy who kept saying the earth is flat. He declined to answer if what he thought was earth is flat or was it more like do your own research on subjects idealogy that he was promoting but at the same time its still saying earth is flat so I can't take him seriously. Over the course of years he has said sooooo many idiotic things that even when he says something as serious as this, I can't take him seriously Cheesy

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Quote from: Sanitough on June 13, 2020, 07:34:45 AM

Quote from: Sanitough on June 13, 2020, 07:34:45 AM

Maybe the NBA’s Return Won’t Be As Easy As It Seemed

Not to burst your bubble, but players are beginning to voice unease over restrictions and health protocols in the “campus environment” at Disney World

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2020/6/12/21289757/nba-return-bubble

There are now those players that don't want to proceed with the restart because of having no audience. Having supporters cheering for their team really is a big factor.

They are under on a contract, they will have to participate as that is part of their job, they will only be excuse if they have a valid reason.
If they will not participate they will break the contract and they will be sued which might affect their future in the NBA.
We are talking of huge money here as per their contract, especially the star players so it's a big lost for the players as NBA can always find a player that would play for a certain team.

Yes, they have no choice but their voice might also be heard. As per the article, it's a 'faction' of players so they will also be noticed but talking with the contract rules. It is true that they might break contract rules.

Quote from: Natalim on June 12, 2020, 07:30:18 AM

Especially if they are on their home court shouting their names which boosts their gaming confidence.

There's no home court when the NBA will resume, it has been posted in the previous pages already.

For more details, read more on.

The NBA’s Plan to Resume the Season at Disney World

I haven't followed NBA updates for a while so not aware of that but the factor that I've mentioned cheering them is big for them which is this faction is complaining about.

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Wish for the rain? Then deal with the mud too.

Jokic is not KD, he doesn't have the ability like Durant has and he is playing as a center, so he need to be more dominant inside to create points and be effective with his defense as well, I don't think his fans like the way he look like now, but still we need to see on his performance if that would really help him improve as a player, remember he already is in the star status in the NBA, if he can't maintain that, people will be disappointed because he loss weight.

Yeah, my apologies Cheesy

. I wasn't tryin' to compare the two as they have entirely different playstyle. I was just imagining what speed Jokic would get with his body shape he has now Grin

, and I think it wasn't a bad thing.

Quote from: Sanitough on June 13, 2020, 07:34:45 AM

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There are now those players that don't want to proceed with the restart because of having no audience. Having supporters cheering for their team really is a big factor.

They are under on a contract, they will have to participate as that is part of their job, they will only be excuse if they have a valid reason.
If they will not participate they will break the contract and they will be sued which might affect their future in the NBA.
We are talking of huge money here as per their contract, especially the star players so it's a big lost for the players as NBA can always find a player that would play for a certain team.

Exactly, man. It was already been decided, and I think their voice/petition wouldn't change much anything. It'll just bring 'em in a bad situation. But whatever, they knew it better what would might happen to them if they decided not to play in such date.

Besides, the league followed did a strict demeanor to as much possible avoid the possibilities of spreading the virus. Like their on-going plan about testing stuff against the virus.

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Maybe the NBA’s Return Won’t Be As Easy As It Seemed

Not to burst your bubble, but players are beginning to voice unease over restrictions and health protocols in the “campus environment” at Disney World

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2020/6/12/21289757/nba-return-bubble

There are now those players that don't want to proceed with the restart because of having no audience. Having supporters cheering for their team really is a big factor.

They are under on a contract, they will have to participate as that is part of their job, they will only be excuse if they have a valid reason.
If they will not participate they will break the contract and they will be sued which might affect their future in the NBA.
We are talking of huge money here as per their contract, especially the star players so it's a big lost for the players as NBA can always find a player that would play for a certain team.

Especially if they are on their home court shouting their names which boosts their gaming confidence.

There's no home court when the NBA will resume, it has been posted in the previous pages already.

For more details, read more on.

The NBA’s Plan to Resume the Season at Disney World

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Quote from: danherbias07 on June 13, 2020, 06:12:43 AM

Maybe the NBA’s Return Won’t Be As Easy As It Seemed

Not to burst your bubble, but players are beginning to voice unease over restrictions and health protocols in the “campus environment” at Disney World

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2020/6/12/21289757/nba-return-bubble

There are now those players that don't want to proceed with the restart because of having no audience. Having supporters cheering for their team really is a big factor.

Especially if they are on their home court shouting their names which boosts their gaming confidence.

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Maybe the NBA’s Return Won’t Be As Easy As It Seemed

Not to burst your bubble, but players are beginning to voice unease over restrictions and health protocols in the “campus environment” at Disney World

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2020/6/12/21289757/nba-return-bubble

Sums up one thing.
United States is not that united right now because there are so many components that need to be talked.
Player voices was not heard. The voting of the July tip-off just came from NBA management without regards to what the players feel. They are like front liners for entertainment in this case. They will be dealing with different people in Orlando.
George Floyd's case which divided USA once again from the issue of racism. Some players are joining that battle.

I think they will need to sit down and talk about this to clear everything.
With social distancing in one place.

I think that issue will slowly be resolved while they resume the season, I mean, I am a bit bias as I can't wait for the NBA season to resume but I understand how the business runs, and just like the NBA plan to resume even if the covid-19 cases are still increasing, the reason is the economy itself, it has to be properly balance, otherwise USA as a great country will collapse if they only focus on security against covid and will not take care of the economy. I'm just talking here on the general point of view.

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Quote from: stadus on June 13, 2020, 04:22:11 AM

Maybe the NBA’s Return Won’t Be As Easy As It Seemed

Not to burst your bubble, but players are beginning to voice unease over restrictions and health protocols in the “campus environment” at Disney World

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2020/6/12/21289757/nba-return-bubble

Sums up one thing.
United States is not that united right now because there are so many components that need to be talked.
Player voices was not heard. The voting of the July tip-off just came from NBA management without regards to what the players feel. They are like front liners for entertainment in this case. They will be dealing with different people in Orlando.
George Floyd's case which divided USA once again from the issue of racism. Some players are joining that battle.

I think they will need to sit down and talk about this to clear everything.
With social distancing in one place.

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Maybe the NBA’s Return Won’t Be As Easy As It Seemed

Not to burst your bubble, but players are beginning to voice unease over restrictions and health protocols in the “campus environment” at Disney World

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2020/6/12/21289757/nba-return-bubble

How would they expect it?

It's different now, they have to bear with the those who implement the protocols as it's always safety over anything if they want to have a successful return and they can finish the season. The NBA season hasn't officially return and yet we are already hearing this kind of complaints, not good IMO.

No good as there are issues that being concerned and players are showing interest, the plan comeback with health concerns and floyd issues
who still heated even this pandemic virus still at large.

From what I've read, Irving wants the decision to reconsider and with lebron's vocal support to floyd issue it will affects more interest from
other players to think more.

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Quote from: Oasisman on June 12, 2020, 08:46:33 PM

Maybe the NBA’s Return Won’t Be As Easy As It Seemed

Not to burst your bubble, but players are beginning to voice unease over restrictions and health protocols in the “campus environment” at Disney World

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2020/6/12/21289757/nba-return-bubble

How would they expect it?

It's different now, they have to bear with the those who implement the protocols as it's always safety over anything if they want to have a successful return and they can finish the season. The NBA season hasn't officially return and yet we are already hearing this kind of complaints, not good IMO.

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Quote from: Sanitough on June 12, 2020, 04:27:19 AM

Quote from: Bttzed03 on June 12, 2020, 01:46:39 AM

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Looking at the picture shared, he doesn't look good IMO.
It seems like has gone through a depression problem where he forgot how to eat, damn.
Nuggets is a good contender and Jokic is one big reason for their success, but with that body, I think he can easy be dominated in the inside.
Pardon me, I'm just so disappointed by how he looks now, hopefully I'm wrong when the season re-opens.

Jokic has lose weight, but we can't tell how much weight does he lost by just merely looking at one picture. Besides, he's wearing a loose jacket.
Look at this picture

He doesn't seem like he lost excessive weight like in the first picture.

Now, I doubt he had been through any depression or illness, because in the first place, he has always been so concerned about his shape in the beginning of the 2019-2020 season.
This for is sure a part of his preparation for the NBA return, which for sure like the rest of the superstars are doing in the middle of the pandemic.

I guess you are right, it was part of the conditioning but like a usual fan, at first look I am a little big discourage.
Statement from https://www.rotoworld.com/basketball/nba/player/30078/nikola-jokic

Quote from: Oasisman on June 12, 2020, 08:46:33 PM

If you guys remember, Kevin Love used to have a body like Jokic. Lossing weight helped him to move quicker than before.

I prefer to see the old body of Kevin Love particularly when he was still playing with the Minnesota Timberwolves.
If we look at his stats. he has a better stats with the Timberwolves where he average a double double, and I think he was not injured a lot compared when he was with the Cavaliers.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/l/loveke01.html

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Maybe the NBA’s Return Won’t Be As Easy As It Seemed

Not to burst your bubble, but players are beginning to voice unease over restrictions and health protocols in the “campus environment” at Disney World

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2020/6/12/21289757/nba-return-bubble

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Quote from: Natalim on June 12, 2020, 05:11:18 PM

There's a big difference of some and so much, I think looking at the picture, he lose so much weight, if this is intentional then maybe we can expect some positive result with it, if not, then I don't expect the Nuggets to have a good run in the playoffs.

He did loose weight, but we haven't seen him without the t-shirt, so it hard to say how much he exactly lost, as muscles weight more than fat. If I remember correctly, he looked skinny like this during 2018 Olympics as well. I would say that this is work in progress, and it won't end up with this.

After all, he knows which weight fits him the best for his game, and his game never relied on strength much, rather on BBIQ.

In the other news, there is a rumor that 2020/2021 season might be entirely without the fans. If it plays out like that, it will be a huge financial hit

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In a conference call on Friday, the National Basketball Players Association’s leadership stated their belief no fans will be allowed to attend games for the entire 2020-21 NBA season because of the COVID-19 pandemic, according to Shams Charania of The Athletic.

With that being said, the 2020-21 season could likely be held at a bubble site, just like how the NBA is planning on resuming the 2019-20 season at Walt Disney World in Orlando, Florida. The Orlando bubble will certainly give everyone an idea of how the 2020-21 season will be played out.

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Quote from: Oasisman on June 12, 2020, 08:46:33 PM

Now, I doubt he had been through any depression or illness, because in the first place, he has always been so concerned about his shape in the beginning of the 2019-2020 season.
This for is sure a part of his preparation for the NBA return, which for sure like the rest of the superstars are doing in the middle of the pandemic.

If you guys remember, Kevin Love used to have a body like Jokic. Lossing weight helped him to move quicker than before.

He must've thought about it when he cannot go back at the other end faster than any other forward out there.
Centers should have that kind of agility if they want to win against a strong Lakers with forwards and centers like McGee, Davis, and Howard.

I just hope he still has the strength to penetrate the paint when it's needed.
Yeah, good comparison, more like Kevin Love.
We will see changes when the games start, I hope it will be a good contribution to the team.

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Nuggets president Tim Connelly said last week of Jokic, "He sent me a picture. No shirt on. He's got abs. I've never seen him have abs before."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ftw/2020/06/11/nikola-jokic-denver-nuggets-major-weight-loss/111948388/

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Agree! The truth that physical transformation is drastic from Nikola Jokic, seems like someone else. We can only see what his performance will be like when games or some of his training sessions resume.

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Quote from: Sanitough on June 12, 2020, 04:27:19 AM

Quote from: Bttzed03 on June 12, 2020, 01:46:39 AM

~snip~

Looking at the picture shared, he doesn't look good IMO.
It seems like has gone through a depression problem where he forgot how to eat, damn.
Nuggets is a good contender and Jokic is one big reason for their success, but with that body, I think he can easy be dominated in the inside.
Pardon me, I'm just so disappointed by how he looks now, hopefully I'm wrong when the season re-opens.

Jokic has lose weight, but we can't tell how much weight does he lost by just merely looking at one picture. Besides, he's wearing a loose jacket.
Look at this picture

He doesn't seem like he lost excessive weight like in the first picture.

Now, I doubt he had been through any depression or illness, because in the first place, he has always been so concerned about his shape in the beginning of the 2019-2020 season.
This for is sure a part of his preparation for the NBA return, which for sure like the rest of the superstars are doing in the middle of the pandemic.

If you guys remember, Kevin Love used to have a body like Jokic. Lossing weight helped him to move quicker than before.

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Quote from: Natalim on June 12, 2020, 05:11:18 PM

I do not know if that is a problem with the pictures or if he actually lost that much weight but I think that doesn't look healthy at all. I mean not just in the sense that "losing that much weight is harmful to your body" type of stuff, it is good that he lost some weight because professional sports is dangerous to your knees when you are fat.

There's a big difference of some and so much, I think looking at the picture, he lose so much weight, if this is intentional then maybe we can expect some positive result with it, if not, then I don't expect the Nuggets to have a good run in the playoffs.

I believe this could affect his gameplay downlow but also he is a great passer and I doubt you need body mass to be a good passer, he could keep that up very easily.

Exactly, I am worried about this too as he usually playing inside as that is his position, with weak body he will be bang by big bad guys. Sad

Too much on everything would always be bad and if we do talk about decrease too much in weight then we can already presume out on what would be the effects but as said there are significant positive ones should be considered but to think that NBA does really involved body contacts then i wont really be a good idea to have that kind of body build but i agree that we dont know if this is intentional or just accidentally decreased up too much.Lets see on how he would perform when the season re-opens.

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I do not know if that is a problem with the pictures or if he actually lost that much weight but I think that doesn't look healthy at all. I mean not just in the sense that "losing that much weight is harmful to your body" type of stuff, it is good that he lost some weight because professional sports is dangerous to your knees when you are fat.

There's a big difference of some and so much, I think looking at the picture, he lose so much weight, if this is intentional then maybe we can expect some positive result with it, if not, then I don't expect the Nuggets to have a good run in the playoffs.