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June 12, 2020, 04:59:17 PM

 Omer Asik had Chrons disease which is something in the bowel related issue and not being able to digest what he eats and had to get it out without getting any of the nutritions of the foods he eats. Thats a sickness and a real life challanging issue. This one is still unknown, was it depression? Was it conditioning? Was it knowingly or unintentionally? I mean this could very well be something that he did himself to get into better shape. KAT is not really fat, but he is not built like Shaq neither and can still pount inside. As long as Jokic is fully ripped under those clothes and not just pure skinny, he could still be awesome, it all depends on the fat % of his body and if he is working out weights I think even with lower weight he could be good. Being fat was never his talent, it was never about his body mass.
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June 12, 2020, 02:02:53 PM
I do not know if that is a problem with the pictures or if he actually lost that much weight but I think that doesn't look healthy at all. I mean not just in the sense that "losing that much weight is harmful to your body" type of stuff, it is good that he lost some weight because professional sports is dangerous to your knees when you are fat.

However this looks like the "cause" of the losing of that much weight could be something dangerous. I remember a player named Omer Asık also had similar stuff where he lost insane amount of weight because of a food poisoning or something, I really hope it is not like that. I believe this could affect his gameplay downlow but also he is a great passer and I doubt you need body mass to be a good passer, he could keep that up very easily.
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June 12, 2020, 10:43:42 AM
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Looking at the picture shared, he doesn't look good IMO.

It seems like has gone through a depression problem where he forgot how to eat, damn.

Nuggets is a good contender and Jokic is one big reason for their success, but with that body, I think he can easy be dominated in the inside.
Pardon me, I'm just so disappointed by how he looks now, hopefully I'm wrong when the season re-opens.
Yeah, I completely understand the concern and disappointment. He lost weight (obviously) and some of that body strength but he gained speed, agility, and more stamina.

We don't know the backstory yet but I'm guessing it's part of the plan with his conditioning coach. Again, I hope he builds enough muscle to stay strong inside and protect the rim. If not, Mason Plumlee could see more minutes as center while Jokic could play as PF.
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June 12, 2020, 10:42:27 AM

Update from Adrian Wojnarowski.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1271117820672323586?s=20
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The NBA is targeting a slightly earlier date for the restart of the season in Orlando, sources tell ESPN: July 30.
1 day early from the last update.  Cheesy
It's still a piece of good news for all NBA fans.

That's right. In the article below you can find more information about the schedule. The NBA expects the conference finals will end within a maximum of 82 days. The league expects the NBA Finals could start by Sept. 30. There we will also find information on the possibilities of changes in rosters. We can still see players like DeMarcus Cousins or Jamal Crawford this season. More info here: https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29298932/14-22-nba-teams-orlando-done-53-days

They will try to speed things up.
That's actually normal if they want to make the next season start at a normal phase like 2020.
But I doubt they will be on schedule.

There is draft pick and players will still need the rest after finals. That is to be fair with all the players to be at good rest before they will start another season.
We should really not think about that but it's a big question.
If nothing will happen this playoffs that will relate to Covid19 then it may be on right on schedule.
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June 12, 2020, 09:04:26 AM
I fully agree with colleagues above, Dallas has a really good and interesting roster. No one needs to be convinced how much Luka brings to the team, but Mavs showed in this season that they can do well also without their leader. Doncic has missed 13 matches and the team won 7 of them. It's still a play-off balance.
Personally, I support this boy very much. I like his style and easy on the pitch. You can see how much he enjoys playing.


Watching him playing, it seems like basketball is a fun game and he is just playing it effortless but in the end, you'll just be surprise that he will tally a triple double, he ball handling isn't that fancy though but he has a very high IQ in the court and that makes his teammates better, he is actually a good example of a star team player, so I hope he will be healthy all throughout the remaining of the games this season and off season.
Agree buds, He just simply enjoying the game fans watching him adoring how good he was, with the stats that you mentioned he's not really
into that but he created everything once he start playing the game, he's an all around star.

With his young age, He still got a long way from this sports. Aside from the talent he also have the charisma a good personality that also
connected his fans to continue loving him and supporting him to this league.

We can see with his passion on the sports.

Luka at a young age can also compete with the stars in the NBA and that's the reason why I like the Dallas Mavericks although they will be underdog against the top favorites in the West. I am expecting a tough battle to what team they will play but always the excitement is there as long as Luka can produce that good numbers and his teammates will step up. 

With KP being consistent in the playoffs, Mavericks has a good chance against any team in the NBA.

They really have a good roster whom players can contribute according to their role.

https://www.espn.com/nba/team/roster/_/name/dal/dallas-mavericks
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June 12, 2020, 08:55:51 AM
I fully agree with colleagues above, Dallas has a really good and interesting roster. No one needs to be convinced how much Luka brings to the team, but Mavs showed in this season that they can do well also without their leader. Doncic has missed 13 matches and the team won 7 of them. It's still a play-off balance.
Personally, I support this boy very much. I like his style and easy on the pitch. You can see how much he enjoys playing.


Watching him playing, it seems like basketball is a fun game and he is just playing it effortless but in the end, you'll just be surprise that he will tally a triple double, he ball handling isn't that fancy though but he has a very high IQ in the court and that makes his teammates better, he is actually a good example of a star team player, so I hope he will be healthy all throughout the remaining of the games this season and off season.
Agree buds, He just simply enjoying the game fans watching him adoring how good he was, with the stats that you mentioned he's not really
into that but he created everything once he start playing the game, he's an all around star.

With his young age, He still got a long way from this sports. Aside from the talent he also have the charisma a good personality that also
connected his fans to continue loving him and supporting him to this league.
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June 12, 2020, 08:31:44 AM

Update from Adrian Wojnarowski.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1271117820672323586?s=20
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The NBA is targeting a slightly earlier date for the restart of the season in Orlando, sources tell ESPN: July 30.
1 day early from the last update.  Cheesy
It's still a piece of good news for all NBA fans.

That's right. In the article below you can find more information about the schedule. The NBA expects the conference finals will end within a maximum of 82 days. The league expects the NBA Finals could start by Sept. 30. There we will also find information on the possibilities of changes in rosters. We can still see players like DeMarcus Cousins or Jamal Crawford this season. More info here: https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29298932/14-22-nba-teams-orlando-done-53-days
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June 12, 2020, 07:30:18 AM
Regarding Jokic, I can't wait to see how fast he moves next time he plays. I hope he's building some muscles already.
At first, I thought his before and after pic was just a meme. He looked like Porzingis at first glance.


Looking at the picture shared, he doesn't look good IMO.

We can't just see if the fats he burned were turned into muscle since he has his jacket and shirt on. But either way, I think it's good, he'll be more quicker, and he doesn't need to rely on his weight to attack the rim with his low post skills anymore, and lastly it won't be as tiring as it was before, you know... carrying his body weight. Beside it doesn't change the fact that he still has his skills on passing  Cheesy.

Take a look at KD, despite his skinny body shape he dominate guys that even twice to his body weight, the body he has helps him a lot from jumping upto attacking the rim way quick more than the other guys the same or as close to the height as he has. And I think, it will be also a great help to Jokic although the two man have different playstyles but that additional speed he would acquire is  important, IMO  Grin. He just need to develop muscle and increase his strength from now on.

Jokic is not KD, he doesn't have the ability like Durant has and he is playing as a center, so he need to be more dominant inside to create points and be effective with his defense as well, I don't think his fans like the way he look like now, but still we need to see on his performance if that would really help him improve as a player, remember he already is in the star status in the NBA, if he can't maintain that, people will be disappointed because he loss weight.
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June 12, 2020, 07:17:42 AM
Regarding Jokic, I can't wait to see how fast he moves next time he plays. I hope he's building some muscles already.
At first, I thought his before and after pic was just a meme. He looked like Porzingis at first glance.


Looking at the picture shared, he doesn't look good IMO.

We can't just see if the fats he burned were turned into muscle since he has his jacket and shirt on. But either way, I think it's good, he'll be more quicker, and he doesn't need to rely on his weight to attack the rim with his low post skills anymore, and lastly it won't be as tiring as it was before, you know... carrying his body weight. Beside it doesn't change the fact that he still has his skills on passing  Cheesy.

Take a look at KD, despite his skinny body shape he dominate guys that even twice to his body weight, the body he has helps him a lot from jumping upto attacking the rim way quick more than the other guys the same or as close to the height as he has. And I think, it will be also a great help to Jokic although the two man have different playstyles but that additional speed he would acquire is  important, IMO  Grin. He just need to develop muscle and increase his strength from now on.
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June 12, 2020, 04:27:19 AM
Regarding Jokic, I can't wait to see how fast he moves next time he plays. I hope he's building some muscles already.
At first, I thought his before and after pic was just a meme. He looked like Porzingis at first glance.


Looking at the picture shared, he doesn't look good IMO.

It seems like has gone through a depression problem where he forgot how to eat, damn.

Nuggets is a good contender and Jokic is one big reason for their success, but with that body, I think he can easy be dominated in the inside.
Pardon me, I'm just so disappointed by how he looks now, hopefully I'm wrong when the season re-opens.

https://twitter.com/TheHoopCentral/status/1271156072447741952?s=19
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June 12, 2020, 01:46:39 AM
Regarding Jokic, I can't wait to see how fast he moves next time he plays. I hope he's building some muscles already.
At first, I thought his before and after pic was just a meme. He looked like Porzingis at first glance.

~ Just 15 years ago it was normal to face a game with under 70 points, you could have seen games with 68-64 as results, or more commonly games that are in 70's and 80's.
I'm not taking away the shooting skills of players today but we can all agree that rule changes allowed them to score more points. Some fouls today were considered good defense years ago. The game evolves.

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The NBA is targeting a slightly earlier date for the restart of the season in Orlando, sources tell ESPN: July 30.
1 day early from the last update.  Cheesy
It's still a piece of good news for all NBA fans.
Damn! Thank you NBA! Grin
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June 12, 2020, 01:01:27 AM
He looks fine and well. He doesn't look like he lose weight nor he gain either. He looks the same, maybe he maintained his body that very well unlike Harden, and Jokic. They really went into big transformation  Shocked. Can't wait to see them play with such body  Grin.

Oh yeah! I read about the Jokic news here hours ago.
Covid19 virus gave him a lot of time to change his shape.  Grin

Update from Adrian Wojnarowski.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1271117820672323586?s=20
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The NBA is targeting a slightly earlier date for the restart of the season in Orlando, sources tell ESPN: July 30.
1 day early from the last update.  Cheesy
It's still a piece of good news for all NBA fans.
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June 11, 2020, 10:26:21 PM
Anyway, have guys read an article about Luka getting out of shape? His trainer Jure Drasklar confirmed it. Though his trainer told the media that "it's just normal". Im still curios about this and I can't find any reliable source that posted a photo proof.

There's a clarification behind that "out of shape" thing, confirmed by Tim Cato's twit from his last conversation with Luka's trainer. So, it seems there was a misunderstanding with that statement  Huh.

According to this twit from Tim Cato:
https://twitter.com/tim_cato/status/1271207910194982915?s=19

And so I look around to see what shape is Luka in. This is what I got from his latest IG story.

Source from his profile: https://instagram.com/lukadoncic?igshid=13kilcler1avn

He looks fine and well. He doesn't look like he lose weight nor he gain either. He looks the same, maybe he maintained his body that very well unlike Harden, and Jokic. They really went into big transformation  Shocked. Can't wait to see them play with such body  Grin.
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June 11, 2020, 06:11:00 PM

Nah, I'm quite scared with the Mavericks too  Cheesy. Luka played very well this season, and I feel he'll do much better in the remaining 8 games upto playoffs (though too early to conclude)

Well, Luka on the other hand is an excellent young player, but in my opinion, there are still a lot better team than the Mavs. Houston and Denver are doing pretty well this season and they are well experienced in the playoff pressure. The only reason why I mentioned those teams in the East, is because either one of them would face the conference champion in the West.
 I'm not ignoring the fact that Luka is such a very good player and a good tandem with Porzingis, but IMO, this isn't the time yet for them to dominate the league. The Western conference got a lot of powerhouse team.

It is too good to ignore. We don't know how far this young man can go. In addition, he's a type of guy worth rooting for, and that is for certain. I just idolize Bron that much but if I'll pick another team I'd go with Luka's  Grin.

Luka and Porzingis sure is a hall of famer. They are one of the next face of the NBA. I admire Luka for his basketball IQ and certainly I will be cheering at him when LeBron retires  Grin.

Anyway, have guys read an article about Luka getting out of shape? His trainer Jure Drasklar confirmed it. Though his trainer told the media that "it's just normal". Im still curios about this and I can't find any reliable source that posted a photo proof.
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June 11, 2020, 05:38:53 PM
I fully agree with colleagues above, Dallas has a really good and interesting roster. No one needs to be convinced how much Luka brings to the team, but Mavs showed in this season that they can do well also without their leader. Doncic has missed 13 matches and the team won 7 of them. It's still a play-off balance.
Personally, I support this boy very much. I like his style and easy on the pitch. You can see how much he enjoys playing.
Still,...not enough to win this leagues.
Though I was really hoping Dallas could get up for they have a good team to be honest, its just that Lakers has its time to shine right now.

We never know upset happens, and I understand that you are a Laker fun, lol...
Maybe let's hope that Dallas and Lakers will not face in the first round, so it will be more exciting especially if Dallas wins and they will take the Lakers in the 2nd.

Lakers has a better record against Dallas (HEAD TO HEAD), that's why I don't like them to face each other in the first round.
https://www.landofbasketball.com/head_to_head_gl/lakers_vs_mavericks_game_log_season.htm

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June 11, 2020, 05:29:16 PM
I fully agree with colleagues above, Dallas has a really good and interesting roster. No one needs to be convinced how much Luka brings to the team, but Mavs showed in this season that they can do well also without their leader. Doncic has missed 13 matches and the team won 7 of them. It's still a play-off balance.
Personally, I support this boy very much. I like his style and easy on the pitch. You can see how much he enjoys playing.
Still,...not enough to win this leagues.
Though I was really hoping Dallas could get up for they have a good team to be honest, its just that Lakers has its time to shine right now.
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June 11, 2020, 05:14:19 PM
I fully agree with colleagues above, Dallas has a really good and interesting roster. No one needs to be convinced how much Luka brings to the team, but Mavs showed in this season that they can do well also without their leader. Doncic has missed 13 matches and the team won 7 of them. It's still a play-off balance.
Personally, I support this boy very much. I like his style and easy on the pitch. You can see how much he enjoys playing.


Watching him playing, it seems like basketball is a fun game and he is just playing it effortless but in the end, you'll just be surprise that he will tally a triple double, he ball handling isn't that fancy though but he has a very high IQ in the court and that makes his teammates better, he is actually a good example of a star team player, so I hope he will be healthy all throughout the remaining of the games this season and off season.

He almost average a triple double this season,

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/doncilu01.html

People like him because he was an underrated player and until that hype keep boosting him and at a young age, we can already say that he is already successful with his career, and Dallas benefited on that success as he boost the standing of Dallas too.

With KP and him playing consistent in the playoffs, Dallas are worth risking our money.
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June 11, 2020, 04:54:27 PM
I fully agree with colleagues above, Dallas has a really good and interesting roster. No one needs to be convinced how much Luka brings to the team, but Mavs showed in this season that they can do well also without their leader. Doncic has missed 13 matches and the team won 7 of them. It's still a play-off balance.
Personally, I support this boy very much. I like his style and easy on the pitch. You can see how much he enjoys playing.


Watching him playing, it seems like basketball is a fun game and he is just playing it effortless but in the end, you'll just be surprise that he will tally a triple double, he ball handling isn't that fancy though but he has a very high IQ in the court and that makes his teammates better, he is actually a good example of a star team player, so I hope he will be healthy all throughout the remaining of the games this season and off season.
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June 11, 2020, 12:46:31 PM
Do not really get too excited about these type of stats anymore, the talent pool is a lot bigger right now and players are a lot more talented these days. However one thing is for sure that the pace is very high as well. Just 15 years ago it was normal to face a game with under 70 points, you could have seen games with 68-64 as results, or more commonly games that are in 70's and 80's.

There was talks about how pistons kept their opponents under 70 points for some games in a row and all that. Look at the scores these days, everyone scores 140+ at least couple of times and the averages reaching to 120+ points per game on teams. So that results with more shots, more points, more assists, and more misses so more rebounds. I am not saying these players are bad, I am just saying the era loves stats a lot more than it used to.
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June 11, 2020, 09:42:21 AM
I fully agree with colleagues above, Dallas has a really good and interesting roster. No one needs to be convinced how much Luka brings to the team, but Mavs showed in this season that they can do well also without their leader. Doncic has missed 13 matches and the team won 7 of them. It's still a play-off balance.
Personally, I support this boy very much. I like his style and easy on the pitch. You can see how much he enjoys playing.
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