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MJ proves that he really deserved what he became, the GOAT and will forever be the man. Remembering those early years when he still tracking his first world title. That era where the league still have Magic, Bird ,  Dr. J  and the team we called the bad boys, topping up from those names and grab the stardom from those known stars.
Nowadays, players are no longer in the same types of competitions it's all about the money that they will receive from the managements and commercials.

I remember those days when most of the jersey merch that I saw were mostly Pistons. And that confirms that they were really good during the old times.

The bad boys is a very very well known thing in the NBA, its one of the most dangerous times of basketball, if you check out youtube you can see many videos of them actually really hurting players, not just the way you saw on the show but actually injuring them.

They got penalties like crazy and flagrant fouls and many other stuff, probably never broken records, but they got the job done because even if you get a foul call, even if you get punished for like 5 games or 10 games, in the end you know that anyone who plays against you will have at the back of their head a feeling of not just full on attacking your rim and people didn't shoot threes back that days, sure some did but one player shoots more threes right now than entire league back then. So it was good, Pistons kinda made the same thing in 2004 as well, same logic and it worked again.

Detroit Pistons the bad boys year 80's.
It's like MJ born at that year and Pistons wake up a monster.
Given that how the hell MJ survived how bad the pistons.

Hard foul (physical one) turns out to what new era now the being soft foul of what we called Flapping. Pistons where the reason why the recent flagrant foul has been implemented.

I don't think it is, they get that from Netflix and netflix is a paid service, not sure how the rules applied in a certain jurisdiction, but as youtuber, when you copy such content without permission, that's copyright issue. Anyway, it's not important anymore, as long as we enjoy it, let us enjoy it while lasts.

True. If he is now in this timeline then he will be unstoppable for that height and that kind of shooting skill.
I have been thinking into which player he could be compared now but I cannot think of someone. He is really unique.

Woops, there's an angel here.
Those who cannot watch in Netflix could really use this.
Thank you for that. Is that legal? They have the VIP feature before you can download it.

Oh wow. I've never done my research so thanks for this (if you remembered it correctly). I hope I get the chance to watch MJ way back then after 4 of the episodes has been out. It really is interesting.

I don't think you spoil that a lot.

Yes, but the first episode only. So I will just give my opinion on Pistons and how I remember them back them. They were the bad boys, so obviously they are very intimidating team and back them the referee only blows their whistle if there is really a hard foul. Well you can describe them Mafia, Boston and Chicago are their main rivals and then have just had a back to back NBA wins and trying to get a three peat when Jordan stops them. For sure it was covered on the series and for those who haven't seen the rest of it, this could be a spoiler alert.

Yeah, thanks to Phil Jackson Jordan realized that he won't be able to win championships unless Bulls offense start using the other guys as well. During those few years with Doug Collins Bulls offense was all about Jordan, making plays just for him, scoring 40+ regularly in the playoffs against best defensive team of all time, but as we know it , it wasn't enough. He would  maybe win 1-2 championships with Collins, but Phil was the guy that lifted Jordan and whole franchise to another level.

Regarding Kukoc, even here in Croatia people sometimes forget how great he was. Here we always talk about Petrovic, but Kukoc was even more talented, and he should have much better career (not that winning 3 titles is bad). Even Phil admitted that he never really watched many Kukoc games before NBA. When he came to NBA, they saw his height (2.11 m) and told him that he will play power forward, something that he never played, forcing him to fight with those big guys while he was completely  different type of player.
Back in 1987 at the u19 World Championship Yugoslavia beat United States 2 times and eventually won the world title. In the first game vs United States Kukoc completely destroyed Americans , shooting 11/12 for three. He was eventually voted MVP of that championship. 1990- Yugoslavia again World Champion, beating States in the semi-finals , Kukoc MVP again.

We can see now how times changed, Doncic came as a great talent, and they simply gave him the ball and told him to do whatever  he wants. No one expected that with Kukoc of course, as he came to the team with Jordan&Pippen, but as a huge Kukoc fan since 1989-1990 (I can't remember exactly) I really think that Bulls should have use him better.

@mich, Thanks for sharing the link, I check the website and I was able to load the series.. going to watch it today, no Netflix account, no problem. 

Well, they'll release two episodes every monday. Episode 3 and 4 just released yesterday.

I would love to watch it whenever get time because not long ago started watching and loving this sport and makes me so happy seeing the good teams battles on the court and the way they keep passing the ball to each other inspite of opposition. So for me it is going to be a good games to watch some of the best legends of the past in 1989 and enjoy my time as well.

I watched this on this site

https://flixtor.to/watch/tv/4452554/the-last-dance

(I can delete links if not allowed.)

That's what I read on some status from my friends who were able to watch it, but 1989, I was just so little at that time, NBA was not my thing yet.
I started enjoy NBA around 2000 I guess, so I don't really mind them at all, but you got me curious, maybe if I have some extra time now, I'll watch this one.

Oh yes!
At the time when MJ was having problem with his fever Kukoc was the one doing the offense.
But it was always MJ who was the apple of the eye back then.
Perhaps because of his all around skill which is really impressive.
But behind that 3 point line, there was always a man who could catch and shoot and had a high percentage of taking it in.

For me, it had always been the Bulls team and not just Jordan. They all made their contributions which made them a champion.
It is not a one man team. If asked who is better in that Bulls team, yes it is Jordan. But credits is to everyone specially Coach Phil.

Have you guys watching "The Last Dance" series in Netflix?

I never thought that Pistons was deadly team way back 1989 with at 10% chance of winning when other teams faced them. More like a MAFIA way back then.

 At one point I agree that players health is above everything else, you should definitely take care of players and how they play and you should be able to mix in both developed technology and better understanding of food, and newer treatments etc etc, all that is much better today compared to the past. So that these new players would basically be getting as much as they can from the new world and live a much better life compared to players who played back in the day. Plus NBA players are getting a lot more money today as well which is really important, not just because inflation but because TV rights gets bigger and bigger, basically back in the day aside from Magic and Bird there wasn't really all that many people who made too much money, nowadays everyone makes a huge amount.

 At the same time I am thinking Kareem Abdul Jabbar played full time college for 4 years, started NBA at 22 years old played until he was 41 years old and barely missed any games, he was playing over 40 minutes per game for most of his career as well. Same with John Stockton with exception that he didn't played all that much minutes, however he played almost every game. Back in the day players were playing every single game they can, and played for as many minutes as their body could handle. What happened? Sure some of them got injured and that is very sad, however we do have a lot of injuries today as well, look at NBA and %10 of the top 50 is always injured, no minute restiction, no day offs no nutritionists, no better treatment changed this fact. When everything was worse and players played more they were getting injured, now they say they are taking care of all players and they are still getting injured like flies.

Not only the players, it's the NBA organization that are taking care of its players as well especially their star players, for the reason that fans are watching the game because they like to witness the stars of the NBA playing, without them, the sales will dropped and endorsement as well, as of now, it's just all about money and on how the NBA will consistently gain to ensure NBA stars will play regularly.

Fully agree into your sentiment which is totally true.Its understandable if a certain player do play its role (shooting guard) but when all players of the team are doing the same thing then its not really enjoying to watch and same as you said where its already boring.I dont think that there would be some reversion of rules when it comes to this because its part of the playstyle as long the said player is capable on doing of.
Of course if you are a player you would surely take care of your career and avoid injury as much you can because you do know on whats on stake if accident do happen.

The Finals during the last season of Lebron with the cavaliers was boring, Warriors dominated them very well and it wasn't physical as I like to see.
Warriors shooting 3s very well, all of them, Durant, Curry, and Thompson were all good shooters, look at Thompson learning how to drive the ball inside, he got injured because he was not used to playing more physical, so players nowadays try to avoid that as they don't want to risk their future.

they got paid very big for a soft sport. hilarious...

hopefully NBA will revise some rules and make NBA as exciting as before again. Miss the bad boys Pistons style of play.