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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on May 07, 2020, 03:26:14 AM

That is so true. Controversy sells. That is how it is in real life regarding news agencies. Why should a headline saying "Jordan is a great dad" sell? That does not spark anything in anybody's mind. You say "Jordan is now addicted to gambling, losing millions" and that's something an ordinary man would pick up. So everybody's specifically writing that and let everybody else entertain themselves and their imaginations with it.

That's the media, they always report something that is negative because it catches the eyes of the many, we already know that Jordan is great both as a player and a dad, so it's not new anymore but they report that Jordan is gambling or has a gambling addiction, people will begin to speculate and that makes the story very interesting.

We don't even know exactly whether Jordan is great as a dad. That is beyond our interest and care. What I mean is Jordan has made a legacy in Basketball. He's a true legend. I am not sure if everyone else does, but I greatly admire the man as a basketball athlete. So whether he is an addicted gambler, a drunkard, a loggerhead, batters his wife, fathered a lot of children with different mothers, etc, that's a different story I don't care about. My appreciation for Jordan is his being a legendary athlete and not something else.

The NBA will protect Jordan no matter what, they also have a lot of influence in the media, and if a news is to destroy Jordan, it would also destroy the NBA because Jordan has been the face of the NBA for years, even now I guess.

Just like when a player says negative about NBA, like saying NBA is fix, or complaining publicly on the bad calls of the referee, the NBA will do things like penalizing a certain player with huge penalty so they will not do the same thing of voicing their opinion.

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Quote from: Reid on May 06, 2020, 10:33:35 PM

This just popped out of my chrome application.

https://8points9seconds.com/2020/05/05/indiana-pacers-evaluating-timberwolves-trade-myles-turner/

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Dylan Jackson put together a great hypothetical trade breakdown for Timberwolves fans at Dunking With Wolves looking at how Myles Turner could be the Wolves’ third star if they trade for him.

It's just a blueprint if ever Pacers will ever trade him. But I doubt that. Grin

Pacers looking strong with their current rosters. If this kind of trade be at function it might be Oladipo be at risk if he can't play the same thing he was before, IMO only. Don't get me wrong, I don't like Oladipo being traded, fans really loves him though.

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We don't even know exactly whether Jordan is great as a dad. That is beyond our interest and care. What I mean is Jordan has made a legacy in Basketball. He's a true legend. I am not sure if everyone else does, but I greatly admire the man as a basketball athlete. So whether he is an addicted gambler, a drunkard, a loggerhead, batters his wife, fathered a lot of children with different mothers, etc, that's a different story I don't care about. My appreciation for Jordan is his being a legendary athlete and not something else.

How I wish for people to think, and appreciate the great athlete the same way as you 'cause that's really good, isolating unrelated stuff, and look up to him as an athlete alone which unfortunately some people don't. And that might be bad for Jordan hearing some kind of label solely based from not credible, exaggerated and sometimes fabricated stories.

Well, with today's environment some kind of bs doesn't work well. Specially if the athlete on the hot seat knows how to speak, and validate things with their socmed account. Might not be enough, but at least people who knew how to check stuff in the net won't be manipulated by a ridiculous stories. Moreover, it would be just like a clickbait.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on May 07, 2020, 03:26:14 AM

That is so true. Controversy sells. That is how it is in real life regarding news agencies. Why should a headline saying "Jordan is a great dad" sell? That does not spark anything in anybody's mind. You say "Jordan is now addicted to gambling, losing millions" and that's something an ordinary man would pick up. So everybody's specifically writing that and let everybody else entertain themselves and their imaginations with it.

That's the media, they always report something that is negative because it catches the eyes of the many, we already know that Jordan is great both as a player and a dad, so it's not new anymore but they report that Jordan is gambling or has a gambling addiction, people will begin to speculate and that makes the story very interesting.

We don't even know exactly whether Jordan is great as a dad. That is beyond our interest and care. What I mean is Jordan has made a legacy in Basketball. He's a true legend. I am not sure if everyone else does, but I greatly admire the man as a basketball athlete. So whether he is an addicted gambler, a drunkard, a loggerhead, batters his wife, fathered a lot of children with different mothers, etc, that's a different story I don't care about. My appreciation for Jordan is his being a legendary athlete and not something else.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on May 07, 2020, 03:26:14 AM

That's the media, they always report something that is negative because it catches the eyes of the many, we already know that Jordan is great both as a player and a dad, so it's not new anymore but they report that Jordan is gambling or has a gambling addiction, people will begin to speculate and that makes the story very interesting.

Yeah sounds interesting for the ears of the many but how about the condition of the person they are intriguing? Do you think did they care about it? Maybe not. *sigh How sad that such unpleasant way of getting the attention of the mass is now a norm Sad

. Some news agencies would do everything just to make a "catchy" headline or ready to become biased for exchange of something.

Like here in our country, one of the leading TV networks here is ordered to shut down by the government which happened last Tuesday because of many anomalies and being biased/doing a black propaganda is one of them. Those are still unproven accusations but who knows Roll Eyes

. Maybe they are just covering their own mistakes. (Filipinos out there can relate)

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That is so true. Controversy sells. That is how it is in real life regarding news agencies. Why should a headline saying "Jordan is a great dad" sell? That does not spark anything in anybody's mind. You say "Jordan is now addicted to gambling, losing millions" and that's something an ordinary man would pick up. So everybody's specifically writing that and let everybody else entertain themselves and their imaginations with it.

That's the media, they always report something that is negative because it catches the eyes of the many, we already know that Jordan is great both as a player and a dad, so it's not new anymore but they report that Jordan is gambling or has a gambling addiction, people will begin to speculate and that makes the story very interesting.

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Quote from: Captain Corporate on May 06, 2020, 03:33:08 PM

The fact is that contraversy sells and it makes papers sold, in 92-93 era of course it was paper newspaper, it wasn't online just yet so we know that there was no clickbait online news just yet, but still at those times if you wrote scandalous headlines there will be more sold. Now if you are "Jordan is an all around decent guy" you will not sell too many newspapers, sure to a point you will, they did it for years with like "Jordan scored 55, what a great player" and all that but people got bored.

So what did they do? They decided to make news about how Jordan is breaking down and how he was a gambling addict and all the bad things they could find about him since that would really sell newspapers. All the TV shows also talked about it because it would be watched as well. So basically this all comes down to money, attacking Jordan became more lucrative for them then supporting him (maybe except in chicago)

Correct, people already knew how great Jordan was and if you will report things according to his stats then it will not get any additional interest, those reporters who begins to write about Jordan's gambling activities creates headlines back then, those stories about his engagements with sports gambling and casino gambling really makes decent money to the publishers.

That is so true. Controversy sells. That is how it is in real life regarding news agencies. Why should a headline saying "Jordan is a great dad" sell? That does not spark anything in anybody's mind. You say "Jordan is now addicted to gambling, losing millions" and that's something an ordinary man would pick up. So everybody's specifically writing that and let everybody else entertain themselves and their imaginations with it.

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Quote from: Captain Corporate on May 06, 2020, 03:33:08 PM

The fact is that contraversy sells and it makes papers sold, in 92-93 era of course it was paper newspaper, it wasn't online just yet so we know that there was no clickbait online news just yet, but still at those times if you wrote scandalous headlines there will be more sold. Now if you are "Jordan is an all around decent guy" you will not sell too many newspapers, sure to a point you will, they did it for years with like "Jordan scored 55, what a great player" and all that but people got bored.

So what did they do? They decided to make news about how Jordan is breaking down and how he was a gambling addict and all the bad things they could find about him since that would really sell newspapers. All the TV shows also talked about it because it would be watched as well. So basically this all comes down to money, attacking Jordan became more lucrative for them then supporting him (maybe except in chicago)

Correct, people already knew how great Jordan was and if you will report things according to his stats then it will not get any additional interest, those reporters who begins to write about Jordan's gambling activities creates headlines back then, those stories about his engagements with sports gambling and casino gambling really makes decent money to the publishers.

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Quote from: Captain Corporate on May 06, 2020, 03:33:08 PM

The fact is that contraversy sells and it makes papers sold, in 92-93 era of course it was paper newspaper, it wasn't online just yet so we know that there was no clickbait online news just yet, but still at those times if you wrote scandalous headlines there will be more sold. Now if you are "Jordan is an all around decent guy" you will not sell too many newspapers, sure to a point you will, they did it for years with like "Jordan scored 55, what a great player" and all that but people got bored.

Right, you dig in to newspaper before and not your smart phone.
There are dfferent kind of news now and you don't even know what is real or not.
Anyone could just make a story now with their facebook accounts and leave it there without even noticing it is also being read by people who might believe in it.
The credibility of the news now is lower than before since there are applications who could make you look like a journalist.

Quote from: Captain Corporate on May 06, 2020, 03:33:08 PM

So what did they do? They decided to make news about how Jordan is breaking down and how he was a gambling addict and all the bad things they could find about him since that would really sell newspapers. All the TV shows also talked about it because it would be watched as well. So basically this all comes down to money, attacking Jordan became more lucrative for them then supporting him (maybe except in chicago)

That's another story. When some anchor reaches a high trust rate, fans will believe anything they will say.
But in my opinion, whatever they did back then, Jordan is still a superstar in the whole world.
They could just not trample the facts which he did prove. He and the Bulls are champions and that's it.

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This just popped out of my chrome application.

https://8points9seconds.com/2020/05/05/indiana-pacers-evaluating-timberwolves-trade-myles-turner/

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Dylan Jackson put together a great hypothetical trade breakdown for Timberwolves fans at Dunking With Wolves looking at how Myles Turner could be the Wolves’ third star if they trade for him.

It's just a blueprint if ever Pacers will ever trade him. But I doubt that. Grin

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The fact is that contraversy sells and it makes papers sold, in 92-93 era of course it was paper newspaper, it wasn't online just yet so we know that there was no clickbait online news just yet, but still at those times if you wrote scandalous headlines there will be more sold. Now if you are "Jordan is an all around decent guy" you will not sell too many newspapers, sure to a point you will, they did it for years with like "Jordan scored 55, what a great player" and all that but people got bored.

So what did they do? They decided to make news about how Jordan is breaking down and how he was a gambling addict and all the bad things they could find about him since that would really sell newspapers. All the TV shows also talked about it because it would be watched as well. So basically this all comes down to money, attacking Jordan became more lucrative for them then supporting him (maybe except in chicago)

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Quote from: arwin100 on May 06, 2020, 07:46:37 AM

Media have been always like that, and won't ever change, you know, in media popularity counts as money, and so whatever gets eyeball and eyeball would bring them dollars even if it is uncalled. And in addition, even the individuals always make weird stuff in the net, on whoever gets popular at a current time. They exaggerate everything, they pull claims that sometimes doesn't even have a single connection, make a story and all. The bad thing is that sometimes, the community gets easily swayed by such false information without even checking the real narrative behind.

I think between media being so harsh on him, his father being murdered just at the off-season, the Olympics that tired him so much, dude just had too much on his plate.

Moreover, everyone thinks it is awesome to be a superstar, an icon like him but the documentary shows that dude basically didn't lived at all, he was living like a machine, just going to practice, going to do charity stuff, go meet with sick kid at the front row, go sign some papers, go meet with the fans, start the game, end the game, talk with media again, and after all of that, all of that is over, he gets to his hotel room and lights up a cigar and that is the only time he can relax.

Is it worth it? Sure in the end I am sure it worths it, it must be rewarding, but after a while you can't deny that being that successful limiting what you want to do and what you can do must suck, you are the most famous person in the world with tens of millions of dollars in the bank but you just go from hotel to hotel and game to game, must be terrible feeling.

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Quote from: casperBGD on May 06, 2020, 07:39:10 AM

yeah, indeed, press coverage is doing a lot of false news / speculations, and you can not help it
and this sudden pause in all sport competitions made a great terrain for any news, just to have some coverage, you have to publish something, even when there is no NBA at all

They are not really helping since instead of making people excited it turns out people are angry and will not interested for any further news about the speculation of there comebacks that's why I'm not following any medias related with NBA right now since they are really confusing.

Much better to wait for the virus vaccine to came since this would be more real and if this gonna happen we will get back to normal.

They just want to keep their jobs even though it is a made up story.
That is how they will be paid now since they cannot find a reason to get out.

Article creation must be really high right now if there will be a statistics to it.
Also, facebook pages and tweets. Grin

All I know is we won't really find the truth unless the one who did it says he is guilty or someone beside him all the time will tell everything.
But, there is still need a proof that he is always with MJ. (This is still about the gambling addiction of MJ right?) Grin

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Quote from: casperBGD on May 06, 2020, 07:39:10 AM

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Yeah, I agree, and this is nothing new. Media have been always like that, and won't ever change, you know, in media popularity conts as money, and so whatever gets eyeball and eyeball would bring them dollars even if it is uncalled. And in addition, even the individuals always make weird stuff in the net, on whoever gets popular at a current time. They exaggerate everything, they pull claims that sometimes doesn't even have a single connection, make a story and all. The bad thing is that sometimes, the community gets easily swayed by such false information without even checking the real narrative behind.

It can even destroy one human being for a false article and they could still get away from it.
Just remembered that photographer who claims he own Lebron's photo and is trying to sue Lebron for grabbing it just to post in IG.
The heck!

Facts, they are missing this for most of the times and they are already trying input just theories in newspaper.
It is madness and yet they still want press freedom. Grin

Funny broken system of the world.

yeah, indeed, press coverage is doing a lot of false news / speculations, and you can not help it
and this sudden pause in all sport competitions made a great terrain for any news, just to have some coverage, you have to publish something, even when there is no NBA at all

They are not really helping since instead of making people excited it turns out people are angry and will not interested for any further news about the speculation of there comebacks that's why I'm not following any medias related with NBA right now since they are really confusing.

Much better to wait for the virus vaccine to came since this would be more real and if this gonna happen we will get back to normal.

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Yeah, I agree, and this is nothing new. Media have been always like that, and won't ever change, you know, in media popularity conts as money, and so whatever gets eyeball and eyeball would bring them dollars even if it is uncalled. And in addition, even the individuals always make weird stuff in the net, on whoever gets popular at a current time. They exaggerate everything, they pull claims that sometimes doesn't even have a single connection, make a story and all. The bad thing is that sometimes, the community gets easily swayed by such false information without even checking the real narrative behind.

It can even destroy one human being for a false article and they could still get away from it.
Just remembered that photographer who claims he own Lebron's photo and is trying to sue Lebron for grabbing it just to post in IG.
The heck!

Facts, they are missing this for most of the times and they are already trying input just theories in newspaper.
It is madness and yet they still want press freedom. Grin

Funny broken system of the world.

yeah, indeed, press coverage is doing a lot of false news / speculations, and you can not help it
and this sudden pause in all sport competitions made a great terrain for any news, just to have some coverage, you have to publish something, even when there is no NBA at all

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Yeah, I agree, and this is nothing new. Media have been always like that, and won't ever change, you know, in media popularity conts as money, and so whatever gets eyeball and eyeball would bring them dollars even if it is uncalled. And in addition, even the individuals always make weird stuff in the net, on whoever gets popular at a current time. They exaggerate everything, they pull claims that sometimes doesn't even have a single connection, make a story and all. The bad thing is that sometimes, the community gets easily swayed by such false information without even checking the real narrative behind.

It can even destroy one human being for a false article and they could still get away from it.
Just remembered that photographer who claims he own Lebron's photo and is trying to sue Lebron for grabbing it just to post in IG.
The heck!

Facts, they are missing this for most of the times and they are already trying input just theories in newspaper.
It is madness and yet they still want press freedom. Grin

Funny broken system of the world.

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