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February 21, 2020, 07:13:20 AM
Is there a chance that Stephen Curry will leave the Golden State Warriors? 
He's locked for Golden State Warriors for 5 years and I think the last time he's signed the contract was 2017. He's one to have the highest contract and I don't think that GSW will set him free even the contract expires.

He's like the Kobe24 of GSW.
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February 21, 2020, 05:53:42 AM
No question to ask, Embiid type of a player is not something that you can get the height advantage plus the capabilities to shoot and make his own moves it's not always with the big men who achieved and play inside this league. If they needed to choose between the two there's no need to think longer but to keep Embiid instead of Simmons.
Embiid is the best big man in the league, his weak side is only when he is injured but he still plays more games this season and last playoffs he played a lot of games and he Sixers were the only team who almost beat the depending champ now.
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February 21, 2020, 05:30:00 AM
Damn it! Embiid became a monster all of a sudden. 39 points with 16 rebounds and then Harris doing his job too with 22 points and 12 rebounds.
2 players with double double just like that.
If he was healthy, that would be standard for Embiid. I think that with current setup, him and Simmons are not good fit, and sooner or later Philadelphia will have to choose between one of those two, if they ever want to have shot at the title. Butler not resigning them really hurt them..
If they'll have to do that it's already a no-brainer that Embiid should be the right choice.
Simmons is good, no doubt about that but Sixers could certainly find a replacement that is good as him or even better, those who know how to shoot 3s.
No question to ask, Embiid type of a player is not something that you can get the height advantage plus the capabilities to shoot and make his own moves it's not always with the big men who achieved and play inside this league. If they needed to choose between the two there's no need to think longer but to keep Embiid instead of Simmons.
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February 21, 2020, 04:51:54 AM
Damn it! Embiid became a monster all of a sudden. 39 points with 16 rebounds and then Harris doing his job too with 22 points and 12 rebounds.
2 players with double double just like that.
If he was healthy, that would be standard for Embiid. I think that with current setup, him and Simmons are not good fit, and sooner or later Philadelphia will have to choose between one of those two, if they ever want to have shot at the title. Butler not resigning them really hurt them..
If they'll have to do that it's already a no-brainer that Embiid should be the right choice.
Simmons is good, no doubt about that but Sixers could certainly find a replacement that is good as him or even better, those who know how to shoot 3s.
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February 21, 2020, 04:48:30 AM
Is there a chance that Stephen Curry will leave the Golden State Warriors? They went from back to back NBA champions to one of the worst teams.
I honestly doubt that Stephen Curry will leave Warriors. His contract expires in 2022, while currently he is on supermax contract ($200M USD for 5 years, first one ever to sign supermax). In  the summer of 2022 he will be 34 years old, with so far 3 NBA titles and 2x MVP, so he has no reason to prove himself to anyone, or to change the team at the end of his career  in order to win title, like some other players did. My money would be on him staying with Warriors until end of career, and who knows, maybe they will be contenders  again in one of the future seasons.
Now when we mentioned Warriors, yesterday they signed Dragan Bender on 10 day contract, after he was released by Bucks. He was once a promising player, 4th pick of 2016 draft(Phoenix), but in my opinion he came too early to NBA ( he was only 18 when drafted).


Damn it! Embiid became a monster all of a sudden. 39 points with 16 rebounds and then Harris doing his job too with 22 points and 12 rebounds.
2 players with double double just like that.
If he was healthy, that would be standard for Embiid. I think that with current setup, him and Simmons are not good fit, and sooner or later Philadelphia will have to choose between one of those two, if they ever want to have shot at the title. Jimmy Butler not resigning  really hurt them..
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February 21, 2020, 04:33:17 AM
Is there a chance that Stephen Curry will leave the Golden State Warriors? 

I guess not until his contract expires let's see if there are going to have rumors about him moving out, but I have a feeling that Curry will be a Warrior for the rest of his career and will become the face of the Golden State Warriors.


That's what I am thinking too, it was curry who made warriors popular again and they were dominant during their healthy times but this season is really a bad season for them, they seem to be like having vacation and give this season for other team before they'll come back and hopefully dominate again.
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February 21, 2020, 04:07:49 AM
Is there a chance that Stephen Curry will leave the Golden State Warriors? 

I guess not until his contract expires let's see if there are going to have rumors about him moving out, but I have a feeling that Curry will be a Warrior for the rest of his career and will become the face of the Golden State Warriors.


They went from back to back NBA champions to one of the worst teams.

Because their superstars suffered an injury and wasn't able to play this season.
I think they need to add more depth to their current roster (If Wiggins won't work to their team chemistry) to compete from the super teams in the West conference next season.
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February 21, 2020, 03:30:32 AM
Damn it! Embiid became a monster all of a sudden. 39 points with 16 rebounds and then Harris doing his job too with 22 points and 12 rebounds.
2 players with double double just like that.

I didn't add more at live betting when the deficit lowers down at the half. Looks like I made some right predictions in the nick of time.
Pistons won't win against the Bucks that is for sure.
Warriors have the same ending with like the Pistons being punished by the Rockets.

I will go back to betting with handicaps.  Grin
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February 20, 2020, 11:46:03 PM
Is there a chance that Stephen Curry will leave the Golden State Warriors? They went from back to back NBA champions to one of the worst teams.

They went from champs to one of the worst because the top 2 players are out including him.  Can he leave sure it's a possibility but as soon as him and klay get back to it, they will be competing again.  I would expect him to stay in golden state for the time being, he is a semi god in golden state.
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February 20, 2020, 11:18:21 PM
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I strongly doubt there's any chance that 76ers will somehow find a way to win this, what a total crumble that was in the 2nd Quarter, what really happened there? I was actually watching Hawks vs Heat and I decided to check the score on 76ers just to see a 24-2 run, at first I thought that was mistake with my browser.
Sixers are now in the lead, there's still have a big chance for them to win this in their home crowd. Embiid is leading with 31  points together with Harris and rest of the team they are keeping the distance though it's not done yet and everything still possible to happen.

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February 20, 2020, 10:58:20 PM
Is there a chance that Stephen Curry will leave the Golden State Warriors? They went from back to back NBA champions to one of the worst teams.
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February 20, 2020, 10:44:18 PM
It's a no-brainer to think that no other teams will offer contracts to Durant and Irving if ever Nets will have a plan putting them on the trade list because of continuous injury.

Yeah, let us make Iguodala as an example here.
That guy had been through a lot of injuries too and those just keeps on coming back, yet earning $15m on his pocket.

Having a history of being a champion is something which increases a value of one player specially if you are on the 1st string or a role player.
Experience wise they can contribute a lot to players and give a lot of impact to them.
At some point IMO, this is also one of the reason into why the Raptors won a championship.
Just adding one champion (Kawhi) and then we all saw the rest.
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February 20, 2020, 10:17:25 PM
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I strongly doubt there's any chance that 76ers will somehow find a way to win this, what a total crumble that was in the 2nd Quarter, what really happened there? I was actually watching Hawks vs Heat and I decided to check the score on 76ers just to see a 24-2 run, at first I thought that was mistake with my browser.
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February 20, 2020, 10:06:27 PM
We are now back in the regular season after the long break, so guys what are you picks for tonight's games?

I was looking at the match ups today, and I think I wanna bet on the Sixers taking on Nets at home.
Just like what we have discussed.. Irving and Durant are the only two players that are out in the Team, so Sixers here could take down the team easily.

No simmons on Sixers, I think that is not a big problem though, they'll still win.


76ers having a difficult time to score. Nets are gaining a huge lead now. Levert is also on fire. This might become one of his greatest night.
I have done my bet like 2 days ago already for the Nets. But it is just for a little bit dollars, risking it for the better odds.  Grin

I hope Joe Harris will also have a hot hand later on. No handicap bets for me here. I don't want them losing at the end for just a few points.  Grin
Now it is easier to make live bets with Sportsbet, you can see the odds all clear without clicking anything. Thumbs up for the updates.
The odds is really intimidating that you want to bet on underdogs even with 10 point lead differentials.
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February 20, 2020, 07:25:23 PM
We are now back in the regular season after the long break, so guys what are you picks for tonight's games?

I was looking at the match ups today, and I think I wanna bet on the Sixers taking on Nets at home.
Just like what we have discussed.. Irving and Durant are the only two players that are out in the Team, so Sixers here could take down the team easily.

No simmons on Sixers, I think that is not a big problem though, they'll still win.

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February 20, 2020, 06:09:51 PM

 I honestly think that some teams could benefit from both Irving and Durant, not both of them together because that would be a very very high value and very hard to pitch but seperately. These are not bad players, they do look like bad humans or at least not the type of players you want in your locker room thats for sure, I would rather have any other super star in my team than these guys, Durant is probably one of the most profilic scorers in the game today and Irving is one of the best shot creators so what they lack in character could be make up for the talent they have.
Attitude both in and outside the court is really a big factor when it comes to being part of the team. That's why you will see some players even though they are talented in the court you'll see them let go by teams easily because they are creating a toxic environment for the whole organization.
Yup! Because at the end of the day basketball is still a matter of teamwork and harmony. If you can't cope up with the team then you serve as the burden for the team. It will definitely a big loss, imagine that the game would be now 4 vs 5 lol Grin. Anyway, I think both Durant and Irving got no attitude problems. I can feel it since they are still noticeably jolly in the bench or if there are winning matches (IMO). I guess their problem is the way they behave inside the court, for me they are like "give me the ball and I can pull this off" kind of players. For me they are a little bit selfish thus cutting the ball rotation of their team.
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February 20, 2020, 05:55:23 PM

 I honestly think that some teams could benefit from both Irving and Durant, not both of them together because that would be a very very high value and very hard to pitch but seperately. These are not bad players, they do look like bad humans or at least not the type of players you want in your locker room thats for sure, I would rather have any other super star in my team than these guys, Durant is probably one of the most profilic scorers in the game today and Irving is one of the best shot creators so what they lack in character could be make up for the talent they have.

Attitude both in and outside the court is really a big factor when it comes to being part of the team. That's why you will see some players even though they are talented in the court you'll see them let go by teams easily because they are creating a toxic environment for the whole organization. Just take a look at Cousins being bounced off to several teams already when the Kings gave up on him. Now I can see the same situation in Brooklyn that some of their players are not in good terms like how Dinwiddie isn't cool with either Durant or Irving being there. We still don't know the whole story but Dinwiddie wasn't like that last season when those two are still not part of the team.
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February 20, 2020, 05:39:02 PM

 I honestly think that some teams could benefit from both Irving and Durant, not both of them together because that would be a very very high value and very hard to pitch but seperately. These are not bad players, they do look like bad humans or at least not the type of players you want in your locker room thats for sure, I would rather have any other super star in my team than these guys, Durant is probably one of the most profilic scorers in the game today and Irving is one of the best shot creators so what they lack in character could be make up for the talent they have.

 Sure maybe they won't go well in Spurs for example, thats a team thats build around a spesific type of character and neither Irving nor Durant posses that, maybe not Celtics and maybe not even Lakers. However when you talk about teams like Nets, Knicks, Cavs, Suns, and teams like that, I think they would be superbly great. These teams already lack the superstardom in them and they need success a lot, even staying in Nets with whats going on, they could really make a difference next year, this team never became any good since they moved to Brooklyn so even with a horrible locker room and horrible things they could push just one season of success.

 In the end I feel like they belong to the league, no matter how hard it is to deal with them, they are so great that if it was a player that wasn't really good, you could just not hire them, look at melo, he was known as a selfish player and after his talents became not so well he had to sit out almost a full year without a team until Blazers got him, however Irving and Durant can't be like that, they are just too good to let them be, some team will want them eventually, maybe even Nets will keep them.
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February 20, 2020, 04:10:22 PM
Nets will have a good benefit once they deal with the 2 on the trading market.
As it goes longer it will also change their market value, if Nets aren't interested with the two, it would be stupid for the other team to get them if they can't help the team based on their expectation. Who would like Irving that can't complete a season and this season, he hasn't played much too, and Durant is still uncertain if he will be back to his old self since the injury was really serious.

Refer to my other post after that. I said that Nets might consider trading those 2 if they will continue to be injured. No teams will show interest to them? How sure you are? If Nets decided to trade them, lets say next season or two, for sure there are teams that will acquire them. Durant and Kyrie for low price? Why not? Didn't you know that Nets can work on buyout or waived these players.

Its just their first year with the Nets. Why so advanced? The main point here is the Nets decision to take the risks and someone said they will regret in the future which I think not. Thats why I said, Nets are already aware of the risks so they gambled for it without regret. If they are not ready for these why they signed Durant while on the bed with a serious injury, why they signed Kyrie even these guy was out the almost the whole season in his 1st year with the Celtics and not effective when he came back the 2nd year. Its a max contract and that contract value can't just be offered without consideration.

Anyway these are only IF. Like most NBA fans want to see, I hope Nets comeback next year in a full healthy lineup with Durant and Irving leading the team.

They cant waive these 2, this isnt the nfl.  They are guaranteed those contracts and will count against their salary cap.  If they "waive them" they will literally have peanuts to pay their starting players for the next 5 years.  They are crossing their fingers that's all they can do.  If they are injured they would have to package draft picks and other good players for some team to pick up their salary.  That is getting ahead of things it's still early.  Just saying, nets GM is sweating bullets right now
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February 20, 2020, 10:32:10 AM
It's a no-brainer to think that no other teams will offer contracts to Durant and Irving if ever Nets will have a plan putting them on the trade list because of continuous injury. There is always a team willing to sign these two even they are prone to injury and that's not a stupid or dumb move. Not because they are superstars but they are capable of getting back in shape and most teams know that. Durant and Irving shooting percentage are one of the best in the whole league. They don't need to use much of their body strength in the future if they feel their body is not cooperating anymore with their physical offense on the inside.

Why the future of Brooklyn Nets now become predictable because of that Kyrie Irving injury? Kevin Durant doesn't even play yet. And to question, if he will still be the same as Durant before, we will just only know it once he came back. Sometimes talking about the future is too much. Let them recover fully. Irving has been through lots of injuries but never shown a sign of slowing down every time he came back and can still make good numbers. Durant has now plenty of rest and go through the latest Science of recovery.

Alright, alright. You are both correct but it is a different timeline now.
I think this also explains into why other teams would want Kyrie and Durant even with a huge payroll.
Remember how Stephen Smith rant about why the Knicks didn't offer anything to Durant.

This all goes about the medical technology.
Way different now. They can now fix an Achilles injury and it will almost like nothing happened.
 
Before, this kind of injuries will sure cut a lot of their 'per season' salary. i.e. Cousins.
But Durant had the money, the ring and so does Kyrie. These guys already proved themselves.
History and money for medical support. If you have that then offers will still be at a good number.
Injuries don't last for a long time anymore and we could see it. 1 season may be the farthest.
They will risk it for a big name.
Also consider how much tickets will be sold.  Grin

You have a good point here and Klay Thompson even amazed at that improved Science of medication. People just concluding early that Irving and Durant are now out of the league if they will suffer more injuries.
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