Topic: 2019 NBA Pre-Season - page 2155. (Read 914038 times)

The guy wearing the mask but this guy is really good, they are not retired I guess.

The only player I saw who are still playing I think last year or the other year was only Tayshaun Prince..

edit.. I search to confirm, he was last played with the Timberwolves in 2015-16 season, still fresh in my mind though. so I though that was last year or the other year... but really this guy is good too.

https://www.landofbasketball.com/nba_players/p/tayshaun_prince.htm

Even that kind of bad boys attitude is still on Pistons now, there is no way they can dominate the league today. Being continuously aggressive isn't an effective solution in the long-run providing all players can now shoot outside. No need to take bloody contact below the rim. That's the solution that other teams did to find a hole of lacking a good center but has a quick and sharpshooter role players. Golden State Warriors is the best example of it.

And as more years pass by, it's impossible that no teams can find a way to defeat those bad boys. In addition, trade always happened. There is no way that a player transferred to Detroit will just do that attitude just because their coach asked to do it or they wear the Pistons jersey.

I really do not think that Pistons way was good at all, maybe when you watch you might want some hard defense but we are not talking about hard defense, we are talking about actually wanting to injure other players, there is a HUGE difference between hardcore defense that 2004 Pistons or the Grit and Grind Grizzlies or even Pacers of 2005ish times had played and the defense of Bad Boys, they were just basically doing as much on the court as they can without it becoming criminal offense, if you actually jumped on somebody to hurt them and they broke their foot you would be at least jailed for a while until court hearing, probably would get some sort of punishment as well, but when they realized they could do that and not even get a slap on the wrist they started to actually hurt people.

"IF" they played today, they would basically be "lynched" by the social media PC world and just force Adam Silvers hands to punish them accordingly, otherwise there would be tons of "boycott NBA!!" type of twitter trends going on constantly.

I remember those names hehe! Brings back my childhood and the jerseys that I used to see from people in my old place were names of

Billups and Wallace.

I also remember Hamilton, the guy with the basketball mask.

Indeed, the bad boys really came from that 80's team.
Laimbeer, Isiah, Rodman, Mahorn, Salley, etc. They are aggressive, they will put a lot of pressure if they see someone which does a lot of fire power.
Even Larry Bird didn't escape those guys.
It is actually pure defense, but that sticky sweat to sweat kind of defense will take away your game mentally.
That is where they are strong at and also how they put MJ down. But he did learn from it. Gotta keep his cool.  

Larry Brown revived this kind of method in his Pistons days. He input strength in defense and they made a record that whenever an opponent scores below 100 points, Pistons win it. It shows what they are made of.

I only witness how great pistons during the time of Chauncey Billups,  Ben Wallace, Richard Hamilton and Tayshaun Prince.
I was just surprise that Pistons was already the bad boys way back, I hope that stays in the blood until now, but Pistons now are a weak team already.

I was still young during that time when I see a lot of Piston jerseys in the neighborhood when I grew up. I watch games when I was younger but not really aware of their fame and other kinds of stuff.

Although it brings me a little excitement but still I'm worried about their health and this is so bad to see if they risk their lives playing on dangerous situation. There's million case now in the US and they should take this since their money will be useless if they got infected.

 But let see the next updated on what will happen be the verdict of the officials.

TBH, I really like to see them play soon, so that news that they are allowed to practice does not really touch my excitement.
NBA has been off for over a month already, maybe it's time for them to come back soon, practicing now but no clear estimate on where they will resume is just useless IMO, sorry for the word.

Thanks for this link, I'll watch it later or tomorrow. 

As long as they are being allowed base to the situation of their state, it's good that they can now finally have their practice. Well, we might see most of the content soon and it's going to be about their practices.

Warriors have been very consistent, even with the line up now (without KD), I still believe they will get into the NBA Finals.
Honestly, I can't wait to see a healthy warriors playing again, and i think the pandemic gives them more time to recover, especially Thompson.

Thompson is a great defender as well. Like back then in finals between Cavs and GSW it is Thompson who used to defend Kyrie, and you'll see Kyrie got a hard time somehow. When it comes to offense, indeed GSW as a whole keeps on going around specially the splash brothers, their big mans knows when to give a screen in order for two to have a clear path on shooting in 3 pt line. Reminds me of the breakdown video of their offense, forgot what it is called, it is... something like Elevator Doors. It is like, man nobody could even get close to Curry behind the line. And them as a whole they prioritizes passing rather than having a single man making play alone. That's why they are so great even KD haven't been recruited yet. Anyway don't get me wrong, I am not a fan of GSW.

Yes!
Green is the heart of their defense.
When I saw everything in slow motion, I realized it was that difficult switching Curry to another player like Thompson when defending offensive players.
One example that I saw was Harden getting a screen to force Curry to defend him.
Then, you will see hand signs which is a cue for another switch.
For me, that is just impossible since you will give up seconds of switching which could be an opportunity for Harden to shoot..

As I saw how clear it is, I became a fan of those guys. Those cannot be perfected without brutal practice and chemistry.

Glad some of you are able to enjoy my link to watch "The Last Dance".


NBA Says Teams Can Reopen Practice Facilities In Early May, If Local Rules Allow

Beginning on May 8, players will be able to train and receive treatment at team buildings — as long as it can be done safely and as long as the facility is in a jurisdiction that isn't under a shelter-in-place order, NBA officials said.

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/28/847379761/nba-says-teams-can-reopen-practice-facilities-in-early-may-if-local-rules-allow

I wouldn't say that they were outsiders with low chances of winning back in 1989. Prior to that, in 1987 they reached Eastern Conference title and were defeated by Celtics 3:4, and Celtics were champions at that moment. Next season, 1987/1988 they reached NBA final, and lost in 7 games against Lakers, who at that time had both Magic and  Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.  They were a quality team, getting better each year before they eventually won the first title, and then defended it.


Hah, my memory is a bit different, I remember people talking mostly about Celtics and Lakers back in the late 80s-early 90s. Pistons were kinda "black sheep". More reason to love them, as they were different from those glamorous and famous teams  . Then Bulls won the first title and after that it was all about them and Jordan. I still remember buying my first  (and only) Air Jordan shoes, model AJ IX back in 1994. They were expensive af in Europe, but half of my neighbourhood wore those.


Exactly this, people tend to forget that since they were focused on three points shooting. Other teams started copying GSW, adding shooters and chugging those threes, but in order for that to work, you have to have quality defense, and proper kind of support players, like Draymond Green. Same thing Bulls had in Rodman, who had same capability, to defend all 5 positions.

Yeah!! That's the spirit.
There are people who cannot afford it but really want to watch how the Bulls did it. 

It's "flop" Sir.
It is the new kind of acting now. They might add it into Hollywood.
Best actor doing flops is James Harden. 

It's difficult to compare the 80's-90's against this era. Because of the changes in rules and also they are trying to follow how people will be entertained.
I still prefer the hard defense. I am kind of a fan of a defensive team.
GSW may look like an offensive team with Curry and Thompson at their championship games. But when you look deep at how difficult the switching is, you will know how hardcore their defense is.

Every team now has a lot of big man, that changes the style, teams tend to kill the offense in the inside so other teams are making an adjustment by getting outside shooter so they can get that advantage. That is why some team employs a small ball strategy as it's faster and it could make big man's presence less effective in the court.

This memory is interesting about the beginnings of the legendary Michael Jordan. These guys were really tough and offensive. I found an article documenting the Timeline of Bulls and Bad Boys Pistons.
Pistons coach Chuck Daly devises a defensive strategy that he called The Jordan Rules. It is notorious that Jordan showed great superiority to earn the privilege of that the Pistons coach creates a rule adjusted to his style of play.

Michael Jordan documentary: Timeline of Bulls and 'Bad Boys' Pistons' heated rivalry, testy playoff battles
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/michael-jordan-documentary-timeline-of-bulls-and-bad-boys-pistons-heated-rivalry-testy-playoff-battles/

Flagrant foul should be really implemented. Pistons being called "bad boys" means they are aggressively fighting physically on offense and defense especially on the paint. It's fine to get hurt as long as it wasn't intentional as it was normal to have physical contact on the court. Yes, there are times that it looked intentional, and if these players are just intended to hurt a player every game, it destroys the whole game. So the implementation of flagrant foul is necessary.

We should blame the refs for today's soft era. Even a skin contact or a no contact at all is considered as foul. Therefore, why play hard on defense if that's the case.

And aside from that, outside shooting became trendy that even most of the big man does have a stroke of it. The reason why we only see a few dominant physical plays on the paint unlike before where having a big man is always a big deal in every team.

They wont be called bad boys if they arent like that.It do really involved too much physical contact but pistons that time is playing tough and
very good on defense and if you do compare on todays era of basketball then im pretty sure that old piston team will surely just eat
most teams on todays time. haha
Thanks for the link man.