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July 02, 2020, 06:35:20 PM
Nice read : KEMBA'S SHOT HAS FINALLY COME

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After winning everything in college, Kemba Walker spent his first eight NBA seasons on a team without a chance. That's why he's in Boston, and this is his moment to create a new legacy.



I almost forgot about the Celtics chance this season.

I think they have a pretty solid chance to upset teams in the playoffs, it's a different team now that was dominated by the Bucks last season, so I'm expecting some big upset here as I think with the Arrival of Kemba Walker, this team has just got better.
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July 02, 2020, 04:45:23 PM

 Honestly the Ben Simmons rookie of the year and aside from that rookie of the year has been constantly one of the least argued awards in history. Sure it had a lot of arguments over the years, I am not saying its zero, but it is one of the least argued compared to all others, maybe coach of the year is also a bit less argued but from defensive to mvp to mip all have been argued a lot.

 That Ben Simmons case was a different one, dude didn't played but he was also drafted earlier, being injured shouldn't really make you rookie again the next year, you should be missing the chance to actually get it, in any case when he returned he changed the whole offense of philly so he kind of deserved it if we seriously consider him rookie that year but there was ton of argument over not considering him rookie.
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July 02, 2020, 04:22:30 PM
Looking at it now I can say that Zion couldn't even dream of getting it, all because he played just 20 games this year, and I know we played only 60 games this season but I would pick the player that played almost all games and brought his team to higher level than the dude that played 20 games and failed to make a big difference.
Yep, Zion simply didn't play enough games this season to get ROTY, it would be unfair, especially considering how good Ja Morant was. If they didn't give ROTY to Embiid, that was way superior to Brogdon who won the award just because he didn't play enough games, they certainly won't give it to Zion.

Though I don't agree with that part where you said that  Zion didn't make big difference, as he did. In those 19 games he played, Pelicans had 11 wins and 9 losses, while without him they had 27 losses and 17 wins. That is quite a big difference, and if he played from the start of the seasons, Pelicans would comfortably secure playoff.


I agree with you, even without looking the stats, I could still simply recall his contributions to the team as he I've watched every game the Pelicans played when he came back from injury, as if nothing happens to him as he was still the same Zion during the preseason and he has contributed big for the team.
They might be in a tough situation now a lot of believers for pelicans now to make it to the playoffs.
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July 02, 2020, 02:55:37 PM
Looking at it now I can say that Zion couldn't even dream of getting it, all because he played just 20 games this year, and I know we played only 60 games this season but I would pick the player that played almost all games and brought his team to higher level than the dude that played 20 games and failed to make a big difference.
Yep, Zion simply didn't play enough games this season to get ROTY, it would be unfair, especially considering how good Ja Morant was. If they didn't give ROTY to Embiid, that was way superior to Brogdon who won the award just because he didn't play enough games, they certainly won't give it to Zion.

Though I don't agree with that part where you said that  Zion didn't make big difference, as he did. In those 19 games he played, Pelicans had 10 wins and 9 losses, while without him they had 27 losses and 17 wins. That is quite a big difference, and if he played from the start of the seasons, Pelicans would comfortably secure playoff.


Ja will need to work harder to get that attention while others could just sit down and will still get the better deal.
It is simple really: Zion has much higher ceiling than Ja Morant (who is fine player) therefore all that hype.




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The nine positive tests found between June 24-29 bring the overall total to 25 players out of a pool of 351 who have been tested since June 23. Sixteen players tested positive last week.

The NBA also said 10 of 884 team staff members who were tested were positive for the coronavirus.

As expected, there will be more and more news like this before restart of the season at the end of July. At least those that get virus now could have enough time to get better until start, or at least until playoff starts, and that's what is most important after all.
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July 02, 2020, 10:32:12 AM
Have you guys already see this?

New update from NBA:

Source: https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10158824248708463&id=8245623462&sfnsn=mo

As you can see they are now preparing the practice floors  Grin. This is it, games are definitely going to resume. We just need to wait for 4 more few weeks.

Dunno but the set up seems kind of weird to me lol. 'Cause you know you have to practice together with different teams just few steps beside you haha  Cheesy. But whatever, it is just kind of new to me.

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July 02, 2020, 10:27:10 AM
Well, there is a big difference between hyping someone up and rookie of the year award.

Rookie of the year award goes to the player who plays best in that season and by far Ja Morant was the best rookie to play this year, he actually changed the whole team up to a new level that could compete with higher level teams once again when they were expected to tank this season as well.

Looking at it now I can say that Zion couldn't even dream of getting it, all because he played just 20 games this year, and I know we played only 60 games this season but I would pick the player that played almost all games and brought his team to higher level than the dude that played 20 games and failed to make a big difference.

Yet that doesn't mean that everyone talked about Zion constantly and he could still be better than Ja Morant in the future when he gets healthy.

I can see that.
But, there is this air of unfairness right?

Ja Morant had been working hard since day 1 and it is now known because of all that effort.
While on the other hand, Zion just played a little, and yet he is far more popular than Ja.
Which concludes to one thing.
Ja will need to work harder to get that attention while others could just sit down and will still get the better deal.
I am not against Zion or anything, it is just the way they control things.
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July 02, 2020, 10:25:28 AM
This news about Jr Smith started on a Facebook page transferring to Lakers and it's confirmed that he's going to be with the Lakers. It made me remember the famous meme about him and Lebron, who else did?  Grin
The LeBron, JR Smith Finals meme has new life after Lakers reunion

If he or they've shoot that one either they have win the game 1 of finals series with a 4-1 standing or that should have changed the fate of the 2018 NBA finals in favor of Cavs, who knows.  Grin

Well, we should see how much he can handle the meme once he plays for the team, show them J. More wheezing at Twitter.
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July 02, 2020, 09:47:56 AM
Well, there is a big difference between hyping someone up and rookie of the year award.

Rookie of the year award goes to the player who plays best in that season and by far Ja Morant was the best rookie to play this year, he actually changed the whole team up to a new level that could compete with higher level teams once again when they were expected to tank this season as well.

Looking at it now I can say that Zion couldn't even dream of getting it, all because he played just 20 games this year, and I know we played only 60 games this season but I would pick the player that played almost all games and brought his team to higher level than the dude that played 20 games and failed to make a big difference.

Yet that doesn't mean that everyone talked about Zion constantly and he could still be better than Ja Morant in the future when he gets healthy.
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July 02, 2020, 07:53:21 AM
NBA is always politics, I even believe that some games are rig as they'll favor the team where the NBA's best player are playing.
NBA's darling has been Lebron James, but as this man will soon retire, they might be raising someone that will follow his footsteps.

Plus, Lebron James praised Zion Williamson when Lakers played against the Pelicans.


LeBron heaps praise on Zion Williamson: 'Super-explosive, super-intelligent' | NBA on ESPN


I am starting to have that thought.
There were a lot of rumors like this before from Bird to Magic and then Jordan.
Then, Kobe to Lebron and now Zion.
Building the face of the NBA and doing anything in their power to keep it that way until they will get old.

The rig games though, it is difficult to prove that part for their own profit.
I just don't know how.

People love idols, LeBron is already getting old and now a new face is being actively prepared. and we all see this process.
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July 02, 2020, 07:07:17 AM
This news about Jr Smith started on a Facebook page transferring to Lakers and it's confirmed that he's going to be with the Lakers. It made me remember the famous meme about him and Lebron, who else did?  Grin
The LeBron, JR Smith Finals meme has new life after Lakers reunion
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July 02, 2020, 07:02:08 AM

Zion is a good player, and we all know he'd be a future hall of famer (If he keeps healthy), but the media is really hyping him up. There are actually a more deserving rookies and other young talents in that cover like Luka, Trae, or Morant. Or they could just cover Vince Carter as a sign of respect and tribute to him as the last man who played in 4 decades after he retires. It's just sad 2k forgot how amazing Vince was as if they haven't enjoyed his levitation and dunking showcase.
As usual marketing strategy, It's all business.
Nevertheless, sports industry has gradually becoming more of a business than actual sports.

I didnt even expect for Zion to be chosen and id rather prefer to be Luka to be on that spot but well they do have all the decision when it comes to these sort of things.

They are really hyping up much that kid. Well, he's indeed a good player but if we do really compare of to others then we can actually see the difference.

In business talks then this had been since from the start.

So do I, Luka fits the spot as he's really bringing entertainment to the league, with how this young player excite the fans he deserve being
selected to be on that cover, Not against Zion but he's absence
due to his injuries brings other rookies to hypes, Morant have a higher chance
to win the ROY award and still getting recognition lifting his team to possible next round

All about politics and media hypes, NBA might see something to bring more potential gamer to follow

Zion instead of other deserving players to be in that cover.
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July 02, 2020, 06:50:23 AM
Not quite sure about Zion. Man just played 21 games in the NBA, media sure loves hyping the kid. Kinda feel bad for Kawhi not getting the attention he deserves, but pretty much he don't want having the attention too. Cheesy
Felt bad for Ja Morrant  Undecided. Young man excels among the rookies the same draft year as him. No idea about the market thing but does it have any connection? I mean they just ruined real recognition on the floor. Just pure hype, Zion doesn't deserve it yet in my opinion  Grin. Makes me wonder what would be his rating?

Luka, Trae, or Ja should've made it. Or maybe Vince itself though it's kinda late  Tongue.

Yeah, why not Ja instead.
It's like they are creating their own star which is not based on hard work and efforts made by players.

Zion played good with those 21 games but Ja played great. Highlights left and right and even putting the Grizzlies on the 8th spot for a chance of playoffs.
Looks like politics to me.  Grin

NBA is always politics, I even believe that some games are rig as they'll favor the team where the NBA's best player are playing.
NBA's darling has been Lebron James, but as this man will soon retire, they might be raising someone that will follow his footsteps.

Plus, Lebron James praised Zion Williamson when Lakers played against the Pelicans.


LeBron heaps praise on Zion Williamson: 'Super-explosive, super-intelligent' | NBA on ESPN



yes, Zion now in trend, they made a new hero of him, despite the fact that he is far from being a top player.

Probably they bet on youth and perspective.
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July 02, 2020, 06:46:35 AM
NBA is always politics, I even believe that some games are rig as they'll favor the team where the NBA's best player are playing.
NBA's darling has been Lebron James, but as this man will soon retire, they might be raising someone that will follow his footsteps.

Plus, Lebron James praised Zion Williamson when Lakers played against the Pelicans.


LeBron heaps praise on Zion Williamson: 'Super-explosive, super-intelligent' | NBA on ESPN


I am starting to have that thought.
There were a lot of rumors like this before from Bird to Magic and then Jordan.
Then, Kobe to Lebron and now Zion.
Building the face of the NBA and doing anything in their power to keep it that way until they will get old.

The rig games though, it is difficult to prove that part for their own profit.
I just don't know how.
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July 02, 2020, 06:38:09 AM
Not quite sure about Zion. Man just played 21 games in the NBA, media sure loves hyping the kid. Kinda feel bad for Kawhi not getting the attention he deserves, but pretty much he don't want having the attention too. Cheesy
Felt bad for Ja Morrant  Undecided. Young man excels among the rookies the same draft year as him. No idea about the market thing but does it have any connection? I mean they just ruined real recognition on the floor. Just pure hype, Zion doesn't deserve it yet in my opinion  Grin. Makes me wonder what would be his rating?

Luka, Trae, or Ja should've made it. Or maybe Vince itself though it's kinda late  Tongue.

Yeah, why not Ja instead.
It's like they are creating their own star which is not based on hard work and efforts made by players.

Zion played good with those 21 games but Ja played great. Highlights left and right and even putting the Grizzlies on the 8th spot for a chance of playoffs.
Looks like politics to me.  Grin

NBA is always politics, I even believe that some games are rig as they'll favor the team where the NBA's best player are playing.
NBA's darling has been Lebron James, but as this man will soon retire, they might be raising someone that will follow his footsteps.

Plus, Lebron James praised Zion Williamson when Lakers played against the Pelicans.


LeBron heaps praise on Zion Williamson: 'Super-explosive, super-intelligent' | NBA on ESPN



When Lebron praise a player, that means a player is exceptional and I can see that Zion will someday dominate in the NBA as long as he will keep himself healthy. But for ROY, it looks like we already know who will win based on the odds below.



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July 02, 2020, 06:35:33 AM

Kawhi and Kobe for the legend edition, anyone? Cheesy
https://i.postimg.cc/BbzG7psn/FB-IMG-1593529702365.jpg

I go for the Kobe version in the legend edition since this might be his last cover in NBA game to remember him well. I'm sure most of the gamers will do the same if they can only afford to buy one. We can say this is our way to support him even he is no longer around. Kobe is indeed a legend no NBA players will play like him.


https://clutchpoints.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Kobe-Bryant-killed-in-fatal-helicopter-crash.jpg

RIP Kobe.. he was real NBA legend. This is always hard for me to write something about him.. touches my heart so much.
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July 02, 2020, 04:55:02 AM
Not quite sure about Zion. Man just played 21 games in the NBA, media sure loves hyping the kid. Kinda feel bad for Kawhi not getting the attention he deserves, but pretty much he don't want having the attention too. Cheesy
Felt bad for Ja Morrant  Undecided. Young man excels among the rookies the same draft year as him. No idea about the market thing but does it have any connection? I mean they just ruined real recognition on the floor. Just pure hype, Zion doesn't deserve it yet in my opinion  Grin. Makes me wonder what would be his rating?

Luka, Trae, or Ja should've made it. Or maybe Vince itself though it's kinda late  Tongue.

Yeah, why not Ja instead.
It's like they are creating their own star which is not based on hard work and efforts made by players.

Zion played good with those 21 games but Ja played great. Highlights left and right and even putting the Grizzlies on the 8th spot for a chance of playoffs.
Looks like politics to me.  Grin

NBA is always politics, I even believe that some games are rig as they'll favor the team where the NBA's best player are playing.
NBA's darling has been Lebron James, but as this man will soon retire, they might be raising someone that will follow his footsteps.

Plus, Lebron James praised Zion Williamson when Lakers played against the Pelicans.


LeBron heaps praise on Zion Williamson: 'Super-explosive, super-intelligent' | NBA on ESPN

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July 02, 2020, 01:03:45 AM
Not quite sure about Zion. Man just played 21 games in the NBA, media sure loves hyping the kid. Kinda feel bad for Kawhi not getting the attention he deserves, but pretty much he don't want having the attention too. Cheesy
Felt bad for Ja Morrant  Undecided. Young man excels among the rookies the same draft year as him. No idea about the market thing but does it have any connection? I mean they just ruined real recognition on the floor. Just pure hype, Zion doesn't deserve it yet in my opinion  Grin. Makes me wonder what would be his rating?

Luka, Trae, or Ja should've made it. Or maybe Vince itself though it's kinda late  Tongue.

Yeah, why not Ja instead.
It's like they are creating their own star which is not based on hard work and efforts made by players.

Zion played good with those 21 games but Ja played great. Highlights left and right and even putting the Grizzlies on the 8th spot for a chance of playoffs.
Looks like politics to me.  Grin
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July 02, 2020, 12:57:34 AM
Zion is a good player, and we all know he'd be a future hall of famer (If he keeps healthy), but the media is really hyping him up. There are actually a more deserving rookies and other young talents in that cover like Luka, Trae, or Morant.
I agree, I am not saying that Zion didn't deserve to be in a 2k cover but there are good youngsters who prove more than him thus more deserving. Luka is a better option, everyone already witnessed his magic (already a superstar despite of a very young age) and I think that's enough for him to get such privilege Cheesy. I am confused why they didn't pick him, hmm maybe he is less charismatic and less fierce than Zion?
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July 01, 2020, 08:36:27 PM
Guys, I'm confused. So, Damien Lillard is the first or main cover.

Then Zion is the 2nd?

Sorry guys, I'm just confused.

I didnt even expect for Zion to be chosen and id rather prefer to be Luka to be on that spot but well they do have all the decision when it comes to these sort of things.
I'm also preferring Luka than Zion.
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July 01, 2020, 06:54:13 PM
Zion hype's do have a reason and he is living on that hype. He has skills. He has talent. The most skilled player in their rookie class. If he doesn't get injured, no way the names of Ja Morant will pop up as the best rookie in their class.
Agree with you on this, he is still hype as he is the number 1 overall pick and NBA is a business, so it's nice to see that number 1 doing well and that's why they are marketing him now.

The most overhype rookie that I remember is Lonzo Ball in the 2017 class. No need for some further details on why.
I think this one is a failure, Lonzo Ball does not show the same excitement Zion is showing, maybe because he was playing with Kobe so he can't excel unlike Zion now that he is a starter and the main man of the team.
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