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legendary
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June 29, 2020, 08:47:11 AM
Next to Lebron might be PG13.
PG13 is no doubt on a star level as well, but I also don't understand myself, when he got injured and though had recovered fully now, my confident on him was never the same anymore.

I don't really like the Harden and Westbrook style. I don't know why.
Maybe because of bad entertainment just like I said.


I like Westbrook over harden as he can bring some energy in the floor for his teammates, pair him with a superstar like Lebron, the team might become a championship contender.

I also like to add, my favorite is DROSE, though I miss the old DROSE but I'm still a fan.
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June 29, 2020, 08:39:50 AM
My top NBA players list is the following:

James Lebron
Leonard Kawhi
Giannis Antetokounmpo
James Harden

Why Durant is not included?

I thought he is one of the best in the NBA.

Well, I can't argue that is your picks, and it's your personal opinion..Maybe we can also add westbrook to the list since he once won an MVP award and this guy is very good that could average a tripple double if he wants too, now, the stats has dropped because he paired with James Harden.
I guess we all differ with our picks.
Depends on how you are entertained by these players.

Mine is,
1. Kawhi
2. Durant
3. Curry
4. Irving
5. Lebron

I am a fan of defensive players first then guards.  Grin
Lebron is an exception though since he can score by himself using his power.
But if I will continue the list you might all get shocked and argue.  Grin
Next to Lebron might be PG13.
I don't really like the Harden and Westbrook style. I don't know why.
Maybe because of bad entertainment just like I said.
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June 29, 2020, 07:25:26 AM
My top NBA players list is the following:

James Lebron
Leonard Kawhi
Giannis Antetokounmpo
James Harden

Why Durant is not included?

I thought he is one of the best in the NBA.

Well, I can't argue that is your picks, and it's your personal opinion..Maybe we can also add westbrook to the list since he once won an MVP award and this guy is very good that could average a tripple double if he wants too, now, the stats has dropped because he paired with James Harden.
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June 29, 2020, 07:16:45 AM
My top NBA players list is the following:

James Lebron
Leonard Kawhi
Giannis Antetokounmpo
James Harden
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June 29, 2020, 07:14:18 AM
BEST PLAYERS IN THE NBA (my opinion only)

1) Kevin Durant
2) Lebron James
3) Kawhi Leonard

in any order.

Agree. For the last 5-10 years.
4. Steph Curry (before all the injuries)
Now we have Giannis which could be listed there for the last 4 years.
Consistency wise, KD scores if he wants to. Off-night is not on his vocabulary.  Grin


We almost forget about Curry, well maybe because he wasn't really a star when he started and he can also struggle anytime if you put good defense on him. The top 3 in the list are the real stars in the NBA now, they can always score and I often see them having an off night especially Durant.

About Giannis, I am not too convince with his performance, he might be a dominant player but not a complete player yet IMO, he still needs to improve and prove himself that he can bring his team to the NBA Finals, maybe he can do that as he has an easier journey in the East.
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June 29, 2020, 06:39:09 AM
I think I'll go with Kawhi Leonard though Durant and Lebron James has a better stats per record.
Durant and Lebron both pair with superstars to win a championship while Kawhi does not, Kawhi's fulfilling the dreams of the canadian basketball fan is a big thing for them and for the fans all over the world, so that's enough to prove himself that he is born to become a legit champion.

Hmmm, correct me if Im wrong, Leonard was with Duncan, Parker, and Ginobli when they won against the Heat. Then he had Lowry, and the rising superstars Siakam and Vanvleet against the Injured GSW.
They all have superstars surrounded them when they all win their championships.
Though, I ain't discrediting Leonard for his achievements and don't get me wrong Leonard is one heck of a complete player offensively and defensively and he's among the all time greats, but I just want to clarify things out when you said Leonard didn't pair with superstars.
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June 28, 2020, 11:25:03 PM
I have been hearing guys which call NBA as soft.
Does it really matter?
There is a virus out there.
It's not being soft or how hard Adam Silver is.
When the time comes that the percentage of positive Covid-19 players grows then he must stop it.
I know NBA needed even just ROI of whatever they spent to finish this game but when it comes to health, players will be a priority.
They can still play next year but if infected there is nothing to bring back a.lost life.

Sorry, I am furious with the tweets of idiots.
Exactly, let them be what they think as they could even stop it nor the NBA staff would listen to their opinions, it's just a waste of time for sure. NBA has advisors and experts with them and that's a fact and they'll proceed with what plans they have.
True.
It's just irritating to see people who don't even appreciate what the NBA is trying to do.
One is for the economy. Businesses must run even for just a little bit profit so that they can pay taxes for the government to continue working on their health platforms against Covid-19 and then to provide for those who lose their jobs.

BEST PLAYERS IN THE NBA (my opinion only)

1) Kevin Durant
2) Lebron James
3) Kawhi Leonard

in any order.

Agree. For the last 5-10 years.
4. Steph Curry (before all the injuries)
Now we have Giannis which could be listed there for the last 4 years.
Consistency wise, KD scores if he wants to. Off-night is not on his vocabulary.  Grin
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June 28, 2020, 06:00:30 PM
I think I'll go with Kawhi Leonard though Durant and Lebron James has a better stats per record.
Durant and Lebron both pair with superstars to win a championship while Kawhi does not, Kawhi's fulfilling the dreams of the canadian basketball fan is a big thing for them and for the fans all over the world, so that's enough to prove himself that he is born to become a legit champion.
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June 28, 2020, 05:18:26 PM
I feel I'm obligated to share this, hehe.. this is just for those who don't know and want to know more about what KD has already achieved in the NBA.



Sources : https://bleacherreport.com/nba , https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1277230750778175489

He will be a hall of famer someday IMO, who agrees with me?
If you would rate,  among the best players in the NBA now, where would Durant stand?

BEST PLAYERS IN THE NBA (my opinion only)

1) Kevin Durant
2) Lebron James
3) Kawhi Leonard

in any order.
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June 28, 2020, 11:22:36 AM
I have been hearing guys which call NBA as soft.
Does it really matter?
There is a virus out there.
It's not being soft or how hard Adam Silver is.
When the time comes that the percentage of positive Covid-19 players grows then he must stop it.
I know NBA needed even just ROI of whatever they spent to finish this game but when it comes to health, players will be a priority.
They can still play next year but if infected there is nothing to bring back a.lost life.

Sorry, I am furious with the tweets of idiots.
Exactly, let them be what they think as they could even stop it nor the NBA staff would listen to their opinions, it's just a waste of time for sure. NBA has advisors and experts with them and that's a fact and they'll proceed with what plans they have.

I think having BLM on jerseys is not enough, they need to go out there and shoulder to shoulder kneel before every game together on the half court for a minute during the national anthem to send a message to right people who would listen.
All lives do matter and if people are still calling someone white or blacks that's where racism comes in.
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June 28, 2020, 10:36:27 AM
I have been hearing guys which call NBA as soft.
Does it really matter?
There is a virus out there.
It's not being soft or how hard Adam Silver is.
When the time comes that the percentage of positive Covid-19 players grows then he must stop it.
I know NBA needed even just ROI of whatever they spent to finish this game but when it comes to health, players will be a priority.
They can still play next year but if infected there is nothing to bring back a.lost life.

Sorry, I am furious with the tweets of idiots.
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June 28, 2020, 10:23:24 AM
Honestly any decent NBA fan would have heard about Sterling issue, even if you do not know the name and do not know the person you have probably heard about Clippers being sold and the owner was racist, those two things were quite famous all over the news even globally.

However it doesn't really hurt that players would wear black lives matter shirts. Back in the day people were looking at Colin Kaepernick like he is some crazy person who is doing something risky and shouldn't do it at all, look at NBA which is quite against racism all together yet nobody kneeled there, nobody helped him. Dude kneeled on the game that is loved mostly by rednecks and trump fans versus NBA which is loved by usually democrats, yet NBA players still didn't do it.

I think having BLM on jerseys is not enough, they need to go out there and shoulder to shoulder kneel before every game together on the half court for a minute during the national anthem to send a message to right people who would listen.
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June 28, 2020, 09:48:18 AM
NBA just released their schedule for the restart of the 19/20 season and we have some good opening games:

July 30:  Jazz vs Pelicans 6:30 pm ET
July 30:  Clippers vs Lakers 9:00 pm ET

Full schedule can be found here: https://stats.nba.com/schedule/

This is a great day to re-schedule the season since the number of infected people is now decreasing. we cannot expect the best on the players since this is the start of their game from a long rest. maybe after a few games, they will back to give us promising games again. My expectations will be this early games will have less defence and some adjustment to the new atmosphere of their coliseum.
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June 28, 2020, 09:33:32 AM
Everyone knows that NBA is against racism, and they showed it before, like when they forced Donald Sterling to sell Clippers, banned him from NBA for life and fined him  2.5 million USD. This would more like a compromise with those that didn't want to continue with NBA season, so they can basically do both things; support what is important to them  and still play this season.


I know that story but not everyone for sure know about what NBA did in the past to fight racism. This time it's more visible, while they are playing people will be seeing messages on the back of their uniform so it's really a good way to show support, and I also hope that Irving and Howard and all those NBA players who are thinking of not playing when the season resume will change their mind.

It's not that easy when you have something that is already settled.
Got to respect whatever their decision is.

We love NBA and we want to watch every star player as much as we could but there are circumstances which they need to pass.
Just like how we are when we are students. We skip school if we are not feeling better.
That is not absence but more like an excuse. Same thing that is happening with them. They didn't do it to upset people but they are supporting the movement.
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June 28, 2020, 04:01:16 AM
Everyone knows that NBA is against racism, and they showed it before, like when they forced Donald Sterling to sell Clippers, banned him from NBA for life and fined him  2.5 million USD. This would more like a compromise with those that didn't want to continue with NBA season, so they can basically do both things; support what is important to them  and still play this season.


I know that story but not everyone for sure know about what NBA did in the past to fight racism. This time it's more visible, while they are playing people will be seeing messages on the back of their uniform so it's really a good way to show support, and I also hope that Irving and Howard and all those NBA players who are thinking of not playing when the season resume will change their mind.
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June 28, 2020, 03:22:44 AM
However, if NBA wants to stop racial issues they might start getting serious measures for that. Maybe put some pressure to the government in order to provoke a change. Messages are not going to help on the long term.
What kind of measures would you advise, how exactly can NBA pressure governments? Honestly I don't see a way for that to happen, nor it would be wise to do so. Stopping NBA all together? That could only affect NBA and people around it, therefore it would be like shooting yourself in the foot.


For a change and to show that NBA is against racism, then I think this is a good one.
There will be a lot of eyes on them as more people now are just staying at home so they can deliver the message effectively to the whole world.
Everyone knows that NBA is against racism, and they showed it before, like when they forced Donald Sterling to sell Clippers, banned him from NBA for life and fined him  2.5 million USD. This would more like a compromise with those that didn't want to continue with NBA season, so they can basically do both things; support what is important to them  and still play this season.
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June 28, 2020, 03:10:44 AM
In another news, NBA is thinking about allowing  players to wear personalized social justice message on the back of their jerseys. Might be a good compromise with those that wanted NBA not to continue due all those racial issues, and it definitely  makes more sense that just ending the season due that. Irwing, Howard and others that were vocal should be happy with this decision, imho.
NBA could allow players to wear social justice messages on jerseys.

For a change and to show that NBA is against racism, then I think this is a good one.
There will be a lot of eyes on them as more people now are just staying at home so they can deliver the message effectively to the whole world.

Though this controversy happened in USA but everyone should know that we have to treat everyone equally as we are both human.
BLACK LIVES MATTER,...what NBA is doing is a good initiative.
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June 28, 2020, 03:05:53 AM
As a fan of Nikola Jokic I have followed the latest news about him and they affirm that he is in Serbia he is asymptomatic waiting a week to travel to Denver.
Where do we find sources and updates about him and other NBA players that test positive?
Probably the best place get all updates regarding player status is Player Status Tracker. It shows not only those that are tested positive on Covid-19, but also all those that are unavailable for other reasons like injuries, or simply opting out of rest of the season due personal reasons, like Willie Cauley-Stein, and new acquisitions.



In another news, NBA is thinking about allowing  players to wear personalized social justice message on the back of their jerseys. Might be a good compromise with those that wanted NBA not to continue due all those racial issues, and it definitely  makes more sense that just ending the season due that. Irwing, Howard and others that were vocal should be happy with this decision, imho.
NBA could allow players to wear social justice messages on jerseys.

Well, it would be a great way to raise their voices and send a message.
However, if NBA wants to stop racial issues they might start getting serious measures for that. Maybe put some pressure to the government in order to provoke a change. Messages are not going to help on the long term.
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June 28, 2020, 02:41:28 AM
As a fan of Nikola Jokic I have followed the latest news about him and they affirm that he is in Serbia he is asymptomatic waiting a week to travel to Denver.
Where do we find sources and updates about him and other NBA players that test positive?
Probably the best place get all updates regarding player status is Player Status Tracker. It shows not only those that are tested positive on Covid-19, but also all those that are unavailable for other reasons like injuries, or simply opting out of rest of the season due personal reasons, like Willie Cauley-Stein, and new acquisitions.



In another news, NBA is thinking about allowing  players to wear personalized social justice message on the back of their jerseys. Might be a good compromise with those that wanted NBA not to continue due all those racial issues, and it definitely  makes more sense that just ending the season due that. Irwing, Howard and others that were vocal should be happy with this decision, imho.
NBA could allow players to wear social justice messages on jerseys.
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June 28, 2020, 01:53:32 AM
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This means if they have a maximum of 450 players, there would be more test that will be made, and I'm optimistic that only few will be added to that as I'm hoping the NBA would successfully resume.
And deduct those team who wouldn't be able to participate on July 30. But whatever, thanks for the stats dude  Wink. I'm hoping too, for it to resume successfully, specially first games are totally interesting... can't wait to watch Lakeshow play on the basketball court again  Grin.


First game would also not be the same, we will witness the first game in the NBA that has no crowd, I don't know how it would feel, I know it was not as entertaining as what we are used to watching, but it's a big success for the NBA and us fans to finally see the season resume.

I'm excited to watch the Lakers vs Clippers as they are both intact as of now, and they are the best teams in the West.
A match up that everyone wants to see in the West, and it's a possible WCF match up.

LEONARD for the WIN, LOL>> who's your bet?
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