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Quote from: barbara44 on February 14, 2020, 02:26:49 AM

AD abused that late in the game and even during OT, AD also realized whenever he was outside Jokic didn't came out that much, so he shot couple of threes as well.

AD was so confident shooting 3s, he is one of the big man in the NBA who have good 3 point shooting.
The weakness of the Nuggets was revealed here because there is no substitute for Jokic that could defend and could generate points for the team.
And because Jokic has to defend and score, that makes him struggle in this game.

Quote from: barbara44 on February 14, 2020, 02:26:49 AM

However this game goes to Lebron easily, dude played like the Lebron we all know and brought the game home, he may have missed the last shot at the end of regular time but he was the one that brought the game all the way there as well so it was ok for him to miss it.

We can tell with his 14 assists, he was really facilitating the team an they make them better.

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Quote from: theamazingmozzarella on February 12, 2020, 09:16:41 PM

I took the Nuggets to upset the Lakers tonight. I think Jokic has been playing great recently and it's always tough traveling to Denver.

Sadly to say that they've loss in the overtime, AD and LeBron's combo manage to snatced this game from the Nuggets, The power duo
bring the game in their shoulders to lift the entire team in winning this game.
It's almost a good catch for you if Nuggets manage to continue the rally from the third period, but Lakers able to catch up and win.

Jokic is a very very smart player but people forget about the fact that dude is not ripped at all or not even as athletic as any other center of this era. He is a modern day player with his "point center" type of amazing passes, he has great handles, however when it comes to running or jumping type of physical attributes dude lacks a lot.

AD abused that late in the game and even during OT, AD also realized whenever he was outside Jokic didn't came out that much, so he shot couple of threes as well. However this game goes to Lebron easily, dude played like the Lebron we all know and brought the game home, he may have missed the last shot at the end of regular time but he was the one that brought the game all the way there as well so it was ok for him to miss it.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on February 14, 2020, 12:42:30 AM

Clippers showed their heart, however, they should do more to win the western conference versus top teams like the Lakers , Nuggets and the Rockets during the playoffs.

That was a close game and I think it's right to conclude right away about their performance.. actually they almost get this win but unfortunately they fall short in the 2nd OT, by the way they are just in 2 losing streak now but in the road so it's quite acceptable as they lose against good teams who are playing very good at home.

Quote from: bbc.reporter on February 14, 2020, 12:42:30 AM

They also should stop losing on the road. This will harm them during any playoff round.

They will stop that soon for sun as they are a legit team which are a championship contender as well.

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Clippers showed their heart, however, they should do more to win the western conference versus top teams like the Lakers , Nuggets and the Rockets during the playoffs.

They also should stop losing on the road. This will harm them during any playoff round.

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Quote from: Finestream on February 13, 2020, 11:43:57 PM

Who is watching, Boston vs Clippers went to OT.

it's an entertaining game so far, both teams showing their real offensive power, and hopefully my Celtics would win this game.
117-119, clippers on the lead now.

And welcome to the double OT now,... that shot of cold blooded shot by Shamet tied the game and Tatum miss the game winning shot.

Let's see what would happen in the 2nd OT.. more minutes they'll play, more fun to watch this game.

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Who is watching, Boston vs Clippers went to OT.

it's an entertaining game so far, both teams showing their real offensive power, and hopefully my Celtics would win this game.
117-119, clippers on the lead now.

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Quote from: Vaculin on February 13, 2020, 09:54:44 PM

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Either way 1 game is one game I wouldn't make too much of it other than the nuggets are one of the top teams with the lakers, clips etc.

it's already twice that the Lakers beat the Nuggets, the last one was one December 3, 2019 in the same venue.
https://www.landofbasketball.com/head_to_head_gl/lakers_vs_nuggets_game_log_season.htm

while we can't say that Lakers dominated them as NUggets also beat the Lakers on the road but unfortunately I am not convince they are good enough as no Lebron james that time.

https://www.landofbasketball.com/box_scores/2019/1222DENLAL.htm

Lakers by no means dominated the game. They have equally beat impressive teams on the road. How about the nuggets beating the bucks on the road? Season is a marathon and you cant say oh they beat them by a bucket in the regular season in feb so come may when they meet in the playoffs nuggets will lose. Health is a big factor always that we dont know about yet so lots of season to go. Both look decidedly good enough to go to the finals

I was referring to the number of games they have played so far this season, and it's pretty clear that Lakers dominated them since they are 2-1 against the Nuggets, and the fact that Nuggets only won because Lebron was not playing that time, that tells me Lakers could have won if lebron is there because it's their homecourt.

You must have not watched the game the lakers didnt dominate the nuggets. If jokic shot that 3 pointer at the end vs hesitating and ending up turning the ball over it's a different ending. It went right down to the end that isnt "dominating".

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Quote from: Reid on February 13, 2020, 10:06:28 PM

28 minutes 31 points against the Blazers last time. Great contribution.
Almost 2nd half, suddenly the Thunders took the lead.

It's still too early but actually OKC are good on the road so they might win this one, if not, at least they'll cover the spread.

I bet on the OKC here ML and +2.5, so I am on the other side, hehe.

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Quote from: theamazingmozzarella on February 13, 2020, 01:20:37 PM

Tonight I bet on OKC at 2.3 odds to beat the Pelicans. This year they're already 3-0 vs Pelicans. The only thing different tonight is that Zion is going to be playing for Pelicans, so I guess depends if you think Zion will wreck havoc tonight with Pelicans wanting to get to the playoffs. There is a whole media narrative around Zion and Pelicans making playoffs now, will it come true?

We cannot rely it all with Zion. Putting too much weight on his shoulder is not good. That injury might come back if forced.
That is also why they are not giving him much minutes.
Ingram must also work it out but he is injured so this is a big minus for them.
But there is Holiday which is also one of their aces.

28 minutes 31 points against the Blazers last time. Great contribution.
Almost 2nd half, suddenly the Thunders took the lead.

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Winding down.

Quote from: wheelz1200 on February 13, 2020, 09:24:47 PM

Quote from: Vaculin on February 13, 2020, 08:59:04 PM

Quote from: wheelz1200 on February 13, 2020, 07:36:17 PM

Either way 1 game is one game I wouldn't make too much of it other than the nuggets are one of the top teams with the lakers, clips etc.

it's already twice that the Lakers beat the Nuggets, the last one was one December 3, 2019 in the same venue.
https://www.landofbasketball.com/head_to_head_gl/lakers_vs_nuggets_game_log_season.htm

while we can't say that Lakers dominated them as NUggets also beat the Lakers on the road but unfortunately I am not convince they are good enough as no Lebron james that time.

https://www.landofbasketball.com/box_scores/2019/1222DENLAL.htm

Lakers by no means dominated the game. They have equally beat impressive teams on the road. How about the nuggets beating the bucks on the road? Season is a marathon and you cant say oh they beat them by a bucket in the regular season in feb so come may when they meet in the playoffs nuggets will lose. Health is a big factor always that we dont know about yet so lots of season to go. Both look decidedly good enough to go to the finals

I was referring to the number of games they have played so far this season, and it's pretty clear that Lakers dominated them since they are 2-1 against the Nuggets, and the fact that Nuggets only won because Lebron was not playing that time, that tells me Lakers could have won if lebron is there because it's their homecourt.

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Quote from: Vaculin on February 13, 2020, 08:59:04 PM

Quote from: wheelz1200 on February 13, 2020, 07:36:17 PM

Either way 1 game is one game I wouldn't make too much of it other than the nuggets are one of the top teams with the lakers, clips etc.

it's already twice that the Lakers beat the Nuggets, the last one was one December 3, 2019 in the same venue.
https://www.landofbasketball.com/head_to_head_gl/lakers_vs_nuggets_game_log_season.htm

while we can't say that Lakers dominated them as NUggets also beat the Lakers on the road but unfortunately I am not convince they are good enough as no Lebron james that time.

https://www.landofbasketball.com/box_scores/2019/1222DENLAL.htm

Lakers by no means dominated the game. They have equally beat impressive teams on the road. How about the nuggets beating the bucks on the road? Season is a marathon and you cant say oh they beat them by a bucket in the regular season in feb so come may when they meet in the playoffs nuggets will lose. Health is a big factor always that we dont know about yet so lots of season to go. Both look decidedly good enough to go to the finals

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Winding down.

Quote from: wheelz1200 on February 13, 2020, 07:36:17 PM

Either way 1 game is one game I wouldn't make too much of it other than the nuggets are one of the top teams with the lakers, clips etc.

it's already twice that the Lakers beat the Nuggets, the last one was one December 3, 2019 in the same venue.
https://www.landofbasketball.com/head_to_head_gl/lakers_vs_nuggets_game_log_season.htm

while we can't say that Lakers dominated them as NUggets also beat the Lakers on the road but unfortunately I am not convince they are good enough as no Lebron james that time.

https://www.landofbasketball.com/box_scores/2019/1222DENLAL.htm

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Quote from: boyptc on February 12, 2020, 06:18:49 AM

I'm betting tomorrow for Wizards against Knicks.

Hehe.

This was the game that I'm asking you guys yesterday and that was a victory for the Wizards. I think I'm starting to have an idea to bet with this kind of team rather than the known ones.

But, there's no guarantee win on it.

Good win to you. For me, I'm not really betting on Moneyline at those teams who are statistically equal whatever the odds are. Handicap and Over and Under points might be considered though.

Anyways we have our own way how to choose our preferred bets so keep it up if it will work on you in the long-run.

Quote from: Oasisman on February 13, 2020, 04:41:03 AM

That was a good game between the Lakers and the Nugggets. Jokic was out matched by Davis down the stretch and overtime. Jokic is a good center offensively, and I think he needs to improve on the defensive end. That what separates him from AD.
Good job by the Nuggets anyway not giving up and easy win against the number 1 in the West.

I might disagree with your observation about Jokic. He is already improved. He isn't outmatched by Davis. That was Lakers who shine that night but if we take this into series, there will surely be a night that Jokic can dominate Davis in terms of numbers both offensive and defensive.

Try to look at their defensive stats on that night, there is not much difference.

Jokic and AD are 2 different players both great in their own respect. AD can completely dominate and take over a game. Jokic is better getting his teammates involved and his court vision is like chris Paul's, there is nothing he doesmt see its like he is playing a couple seconds ahead of everyone else. Either way 1 game is one game I wouldn't make too much of it other than the nuggets are one of the top teams with the lakers, clips etc.

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Quote from: boyptc on February 13, 2020, 03:29:14 AM

Quote from: boyptc on February 12, 2020, 06:18:49 AM

I'm betting tomorrow for Wizards against Knicks.

Hehe.

This was the game that I'm asking you guys yesterday and that was a victory for the Wizards. I think I'm starting to have an idea to bet with this kind of team rather than the known ones.

But, there's no guarantee win on it.

Good win to you. For me, I'm not really betting on Moneyline at those teams who are statistically equal whatever the odds are. Handicap and Over and Under points might be considered though.

Anyways we have our own way how to choose our preferred bets so keep it up if it will work on you in the long-run.

Quote from: Oasisman on February 13, 2020, 04:41:03 AM

That was a good game between the Lakers and the Nugggets. Jokic was out matched by Davis down the stretch and overtime. Jokic is a good center offensively, and I think he needs to improve on the defensive end. That what separates him from AD.
Good job by the Nuggets anyway not giving up and easy win against the number 1 in the West.

I might disagree with your observation about Jokic. He is already improved. He isn't outmatched by Davis. That was Lakers who shine that night but if we take this into series, there will surely be a night that Jokic can dominate Davis in terms of numbers both offensive and defensive.

Try to look at their defensive stats on that night, there is not much difference.

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Tonight I bet on OKC at 2.3 odds to beat the Pelicans. This year they're already 3-0 vs Pelicans. The only thing different tonight is that Zion is going to be playing for Pelicans, so I guess depends if you think Zion will wreck havoc tonight with Pelicans wanting to get to the playoffs. There is a whole media narrative around Zion and Pelicans making playoffs now, will it come true?

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Quote from: Kasabus on February 13, 2020, 12:13:53 AM

Quote from: Reid on February 12, 2020, 10:53:24 PM

Just to be safe I am still going for a little handicap.
Denver Nuggets +1.5 @ 2.09 money line. I think that is not a bad deal.
There is a normal one though with 2.23 at the money. What will you take?

Lakers are on the lead now, per my book.. Denver is already +6.5 live now.

Even with +3.5 they will lose.
Oh crap! I hate losing but I will have to admit it.
This is one of my largest losses in my sports betting games.
I really thought they will be doing well against the Lakers. Moving on.

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Quote from: Reid on February 12, 2020, 10:53:24 PM

How about the Celtics game against the Clippers?
Clippers @ 2.02, I will add this one on my bets.

At home I like the Celtics, they had a bad game against the Rockets, I think they are ready for a win and they will bounce back hard.
Looks like Jaylen Brown is still not gonna play - https://www.rotoworld.com/basketball/nba/player/30298/jaylen-brown

This is one of my chances to get back.
If Jaylen will not be playing then Clippers might really win this.
Gotta go for a big one again to equal the losses.

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Warriors being valued that much will hurt the owners in the long run. They had an amazing run and they will probably still be a good team when everyone comes back but they are no longer the dynasty they used to be. They have a new stadium and thats great, they will probably make more money in the long run, however they are still not a Lakers type of deal just yet. However I do understand about the Lakers and Knicks because they are at a great place to be a basketball team, even when they lose, they still get a full house no matter what because of where they are located. Knicks are just an entertainment thing for probably the biggest and richest city in the whole world, even London have two soccer teams. Lakers are the same for los angeles which is basically the holywood elites and the rest. So how much a team worths is rarely about how much they win.

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Quote from: theamazingmozzarella on February 12, 2020, 09:16:41 PM

I took the Nuggets to upset the Lakers tonight. I think Jokic has been playing great recently and it's always tough traveling to Denver.

Sadly to say that they've loss in the overtime, AD and LeBron's combo manage to snatced this game from the Nuggets, The power duo
bring the game in their shoulders to lift the entire team in winning this game.
It's almost a good catch for you if Nuggets manage to continue the rally from the third period, but Lakers able to catch up and win.

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Few days ago Forbes released an article regarding NBA teams value. Knicks are still at the top with team being valued at 4.6 billion USD , 5th year in a row, followed by Lakers (4.4 billion USD) and Warriors (4.3 billion USD). Here is the full list:

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Few takes:

Despite being bad so many years, i guess it's not affecting Knicks value much. Might be the reason why their owner doesn't really care much whether he wins or loose as he keeps generating profit from Knicks. There are rumours though that Knicks are trying to get Masai Ujiri from Raptors for the GM position.
30 NBA teams generated 8.8 billion USD revenue, 10% increase from previous year
On average, each team had $70 million operating profits. Only 1 team generated loss, Oklahoma City Thunder, due luxury tax (-23 million USD)
Since 2010, an average value of NBA went up 6x (no team was valued over 1 billion USD), growing at much higher rate than other professionals sports in US.

All in all, seems like NBA is doing great.

In the other news, Lillard got injured last night in the loss against Grizzlies, and will miss All Star game. It will be interesting to see who will get the invitation instead of him, might be DEvin Booker, he has been very good this season. Or maybe even Beal/ George. For 3 pts contest i would like to see Bogdanovic invited instead of him.

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Quote from: Oasisman on February 13, 2020, 05:45:38 AM

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Quote from: Oasisman on February 13, 2020, 04:41:03 AM

Jokic was out matched by Davis down the stretch and overtime. Jokic is a good center offensively, and I think he needs to improve on the defensive end. That what separates him from AD.
Good job by the Nuggets anyway not giving up and easy win against the number 1 in the West.

He was because he seem to look so tired in the game and at the same time he loss his focus as he was disappointed on the calls, in fact in this game he was in foul trouble.. not only Davis did a great job on him but Howard as well.

I noticed that too, specially how he executed the last play that could potentially tie the game or bring the lead down to one. He should've took the three right?
But overall the Nuggets just did a good job against the Lakers even if they are missing 3 of the most important pieces of the team in MPJ, Barton, and Plumlee.

He had a lot of turnover in the game that's why they lose, if I am not mistaken, their record now is 2-1.. Lakers won both games in Denver while Denver beat the Lakers on the road but that was the time when Lebron was sitting.

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