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Quote from: Russlenat on June 24, 2020, 03:17:58 AM

I also like to ask to those experts here, how many days is the recovery period of a person infected with covid-19?

Since he is young and healthy guy in general, and an professional athlete, most likely he will be fine in a two or three weeks. NBA season restarts in 5 weeks, so could be back in time, but problem now is that he won't be able to prepare properly for continuation of season. You can't just jump in after few months break without proper physical preparation.
It is his own fault imo, a lot of people behave like it is all good, like virus suddenly disappeared. He was going out, meeting other people (among them was Djokovic who also is positive). Pretty stupid and irresponsible behavior, since he knew that season will start soon, and his team relies heavily on him.

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Quote from: rhomelmabini on June 23, 2020, 10:17:53 PM

Just an update for Nikola Jokic:
https://sports.yahoo.com/nuggets-star-nikola-jokic-among-players-to-test-positive-for-coronavirus-before-nbas-return-204814692.html

I'll doubt if he will ever play right now for the playoffs with this recent news to him, that's very unfortunate for Denver if Jokic will not play for the season since he is the main factor for the team.

This might have a big changes on the betting of NBA futures.
I tried to check it now https://nitrogensports.eu/sport/Basketball/NBA%20-%20Futures, but it seems the line is off, probably they are adjusting it now.

I really wish he can still play, he had been working hard for the opening of the NBA and this news has surprised him.

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Quote from: rhomelmabini on June 23, 2020, 10:17:53 PM

Just an update for Nikola Jokic:
https://sports.yahoo.com/nuggets-star-nikola-jokic-among-players-to-test-positive-for-coronavirus-before-nbas-return-204814692.html

I'll doubt if he will ever play right now for the playoffs with this recent news to him, that's very unfortunate for Denver if Jokic will not play for the season since he is the main factor for the team.

Bad news for Nuggets fans, I'm wondering when he was infected, was that news about his weight loss related to the corona virus infection?
I'm really disappointed now, I was expecting that Nuggets would give a good fight fight this coming playoffs.

I also like to ask to those experts here, how many days is the recovery period of a person infected with covid-19?

If Jokic will recover and his team is still not eliminated, can he still play?

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Quote from: Captain Corporate on June 23, 2020, 05:04:29 PM

However lets be honest, ranking wise Lakers and Clippers are first seed and second seed, whereas Dallas is 7th seed, there is 11 GB difference between Lakers and Dallas and there is 5.5 GB difference between clippers and Dallas. Don't get me wrong it is still possible, as a Dallas fan you should know that 8th seed could beat first seed, Golden State Warriors managed to beat Dallas Mavericks as the 8th seed versus 1st seed, so anything is possible. However is it probable? I do not think so, its just as possible as a sport match could be possible about but thats about it.

I wouldn't put my money on teams like Mavericks to win the title, due their regular season record and lack of playoff experience. AFAIK, only two players in their roster have playoff experience, Seth Curry ( 1 season with Portland) and Tim Hardaway Jr. (2 seasons with Atlanta). With that being said, I think this could be a perfect season to see some major underdog winning the title due few reasons:

No home advantage for any team, so all teams are equal. Teams that play very good in front of their crowd might be at a little disadvantage, like Philadelphia, that has much better home record.
Covid 19 factor. If 1 player in the team gets positive on virus, there are huge chances that other team members will get it as well. I wouldn't be surprised if some team gets decimated by that, completely ruining their chances.

I simply can't wait for all this to start, as I think we could have one of the more interesting playoffs due all this uncertainty.

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Just an update for Nikola Jokic:
https://sports.yahoo.com/nuggets-star-nikola-jokic-among-players-to-test-positive-for-coronavirus-before-nbas-return-204814692.html

I'll doubt if he will ever play right now for the playoffs with this recent news to him, that's very unfortunate for Denver if Jokic will not play for the season since he is the main factor for the team.

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Quote from: Vaculin on June 23, 2020, 06:44:29 PM

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So, for Denver and Dallas to be at west finals you have to eliminate Lakers, eliminate clipplers, eliminate Utah and eliminate Rockets. You are expecting awfully a lot from one team that never been to playoffs together and another that is basically 2-3 years in playoff adventure versus teams with multiple championship fmvp players.

That's it, but no one sees the future, based on the betting odds we can clearly see how tiny the chance of these two teams to be an NBA champion or to be playing in the West Finals at least, it's always known to us as the odds are their, but it doesn't mean it's impossible and though you call this as a dream, still I'd like to see it happening.

WHO KNOWS MY FRIEND> Grin

Nothing is impossible in NBA. If we're talking about teams who has a very tiny chances to play in the NBA finals, remember that one major injury could change the outcome. Look at what happened to the GSW the last time they played the Raptors? They lost Durant and Klay due to a devastating and career threatening injury.
That guy above got some point, but the possibility for the young Mavs are always there.

God forbid that injury, it's not fun to watch games when some players are injured, as much as possible we would like to see teams that are intact so they can give their best to compete for the championship. Mavericks are a young team, but they always have a chance. I understand that we might be bias so let's just consider our opinion as bias opinion.

Way back in 2011, it happened that the number 1 seed was eliminated by the number 8 seed team, this would tell us that nothing is impossible.

Memphis Grizzlies eliminate No. 1-seeded San Antonio Spurs | NBA playoffs

Maybe that time people are thinking that Memphis has no chance since Spurs are a pretty good team that time, but it happened.

Good point, but we are talking of championship here, how about we use some statistics.

According to https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/2ws9po/nba_finals_winners_by_seed/

It was posted 5 years ago but it might give us a picture on the chances.. so Dallas Mavericks is currently at number 7 (https://www.nba.com/standings) therefore its chance is 0%, can the mavericks break this trend?

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Quote from: Oasisman on June 23, 2020, 06:31:31 PM

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Quote from: tbterryboy on June 23, 2020, 12:25:32 PM

So, for Denver and Dallas to be at west finals you have to eliminate Lakers, eliminate clipplers, eliminate Utah and eliminate Rockets. You are expecting awfully a lot from one team that never been to playoffs together and another that is basically 2-3 years in playoff adventure versus teams with multiple championship fmvp players.

That's it, but no one sees the future, based on the betting odds we can clearly see how tiny the chance of these two teams to be an NBA champion or to be playing in the West Finals at least, it's always known to us as the odds are their, but it doesn't mean it's impossible and though you call this as a dream, still I'd like to see it happening.

WHO KNOWS MY FRIEND> Grin

Nothing is impossible in NBA. If we're talking about teams who has a very tiny chances to play in the NBA finals, remember that one major injury could change the outcome. Look at what happened to the GSW the last time they played the Raptors? They lost Durant and Klay due to a devastating and career threatening injury.
That guy above got some point, but the possibility for the young Mavs are always there.

God forbid that injury, it's not fun to watch games when some players are injured, as much as possible we would like to see teams that are intact so they can give their best to compete for the championship. Mavericks are a young team, but they always have a chance. I understand that we might be bias so let's just consider our opinion as bias opinion.

Way back in 2011, it happened that the number 1 seed was eliminated by the number 8 seed team, this would tell us that nothing is impossible.

Memphis Grizzlies eliminate No. 1-seeded San Antonio Spurs | NBA playoffs

Maybe that time people are thinking that Memphis has no chance since Spurs are a pretty good team that time, but it happened.

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Quote from: tbterryboy on June 23, 2020, 12:25:32 PM

So, for Denver and Dallas to be at west finals you have to eliminate Lakers, eliminate clipplers, eliminate Utah and eliminate Rockets. You are expecting awfully a lot from one team that never been to playoffs together and another that is basically 2-3 years in playoff adventure versus teams with multiple championship fmvp players.

That's it, but no one sees the future, based on the betting odds we can clearly see how tiny the chance of these two teams to be an NBA champion or to be playing in the West Finals at least, it's always known to us as the odds are their, but it doesn't mean it's impossible and though you call this as a dream, still I'd like to see it happening.

WHO KNOWS MY FRIEND> Grin

Nothing is impossible in NBA. If we're talking about teams who has a very tiny chances to play in the NBA finals, remember that one major injury could change the outcome. Look at what happened to the GSW the last time they played the Raptors? They lost Durant and Klay due to a devastating and career threatening injury.
That guy above got some point, but the possibility for the young Mavs are always there.

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Quote from: tbterryboy on June 23, 2020, 12:25:32 PM

So, for Denver and Dallas to be at west finals you have to eliminate Lakers, eliminate clipplers, eliminate Utah and eliminate Rockets. You are expecting awfully a lot from one team that never been to playoffs together and another that is basically 2-3 years in playoff adventure versus teams with multiple championship fmvp players.

That's it, but no one sees the future, based on the betting odds we can clearly see how tiny the chance of these two teams to be an NBA champion or to be playing in the West Finals at least, it's always known to us as the odds are their, but it doesn't mean it's impossible and though you call this as a dream, still I'd like to see it happening.

WHO KNOWS MY FRIEND> Grin

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Quote from: tbterryboy on June 23, 2020, 12:25:32 PM

Look I am not saying Denver or Dallas is bad teams but you guys have to be dreaming if you think Dallas versus Denver west finals is even possible.

You really take that Dallas vs Denver match-up possibility seriously huh?

I got the picture but you should also understand why the discussion leads on that.

"Disregarding the dominant ones" - in my case of picking the Mavericks.

As an NBA enthusiast for almost 2 decades, I understand technically, generally, specifically, etc, etc. "the true distance between our favorite team to the stronger ones". No need to explain how small the chance of either Dallas or Denver to reach the finals.

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You are free to support your team as much as you want, there is really nothing anyone can say that could change that, you are a supporter of a team and it is your right to think you will be the champions. Without that hype and without that excitement, it is like watching every game knowing you are a bad team and you are going to lose, which is a sad thing. Not that it never happens, remember the Sixers during their "process" period, they had multiple under 20 win seasons and every fan knew they were going to lose quite a lot. So there are times you hype about your team and there are times when you are upset about it.

However lets be honest, ranking wise Lakers and Clippers are first seed and second seed, whereas Dallas is 7th seed, there is 11 GB difference between Lakers and Dallas and there is 5.5 GB difference between clippers and Dallas. Don't get me wrong it is still possible, as a Dallas fan you should know that 8th seed could beat first seed, Golden State Warriors managed to beat Dallas Mavericks as the 8th seed versus 1st seed, so anything is possible. However is it probable? I do not think so, its just as possible as a sport match could be possible about but thats about it.

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Quote from: Reid on June 23, 2020, 12:44:00 PM

Dallas was once a champion too and if you look at their roster that year it was not that good.
An old Nowitzki, Kidd, Terry and Marion.
What team did they win against? Miami! Freaking strong Miami with Lebron, Wade and Bosh.

While I agree that Miami was a favorite to win and Dallas winning was a surprise, it was still a pretty good team, that finished 3rd in the west with 57-25, while Miami finished 2nd at the East with 58-24. So not a huge difference like it would be in this playoff, if Dallas meets Lakers/Clippers. Also, Nowitzki had a lot of experience, including playing in finals, when they lost against Miami back in 2006.
I could see Denver reaching Western finals, but both those teams? Hardly. Thought there is always a chance of course, especially now with Covid-19 virus around, so you never know how each team roster will look like. Imagine Kawhi or LJ getting virus? That would be the end for their teams basically, so if there is a year when anything is possible, this could be 2020.

Quote from: Reid on June 23, 2020, 12:44:00 PM

We respect that you are a fan of the LA teams but we have our own respected teams to support too.

I fully agree with that. If fans of Dallas/Nuggets don't believe their teams can reach the final,then what's the point? You gotta believe in your team and hope for the best, that's part of being a fan.

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Quote from: tbterryboy on June 23, 2020, 12:25:32 PM

Look I am not saying Denver or Dallas is bad teams but you guys have to be dreaming if you think Dallas versus Denver west finals is even possible. I do not think neither of them will go to finals, these are some other level of teams that you are talking about. Los Angeles will be the finals for sure, as long as teams are healthy it will definitely be Lakers versus Clippers, and even in a case where it is not both of them, we have Utah and Rockets that are waiting to take that spot as well.

So, for Denver and Dallas to be at west finals you have to eliminate Lakers, eliminate clipplers, eliminate Utah and eliminate Rockets. You are expecting awfully a lot from one team that never been to playoffs together and another that is basically 2-3 years in playoff adventure versus teams with multiple championship fmvp players.

We respect that you are a fan of the LA teams but we have our own respected teams to support too.

Dallas was once a champion too and if you look at their roster that year it was not that good.
An old Nowitzki, Kidd, Terry and Marion.
What team did they win against? Miami! Freaking strong Miami with Lebron, Wade and Bosh.

You cannot foretell the future. You might have the better odds but anything can happen in a basketball court.
Note: They do have playoff experiences.

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Quote from: Bttzed03 on June 23, 2020, 09:53:39 AM

Anyone else you might know?

Bojan Bogdanovic of Utah.
- https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29190680/sources-jazz-bojan-bogdanovic-undergo-season-ending-wrist-surgery

DeMarcus Cousins of Lakers.
- https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/celtics/nba-rumors-demarcus-cousins-sit-out-season-restart-despite-teams-interest

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Look I am not saying Denver or Dallas is bad teams but you guys have to be dreaming if you think Dallas versus Denver west finals is even possible. I do not think neither of them will go to finals, these are some other level of teams that you are talking about. Los Angeles will be the finals for sure, as long as teams are healthy it will definitely be Lakers versus Clippers, and even in a case where it is not both of them, we have Utah and Rockets that are waiting to take that spot as well.

So, for Denver and Dallas to be at west finals you have to eliminate Lakers, eliminate clipplers, eliminate Utah and eliminate Rockets. You are expecting awfully a lot from one team that never been to playoffs together and another that is basically 2-3 years in playoff adventure versus teams with multiple championship fmvp players.

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Now that fans aren't allowed to watch live. I wonder what 76ers upcoming games would be the outcome as more than half of their Road Games are loss.

Too bad, they are at disadvantage after the resume (statistically based).

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I was searching for players who would opt out of the NBA 2019-2020 restart.

Here's what I gathered from NBA.com (some on the list were already mentioned in other comments):

Mav's Lee
Wizard's Bertans
Blazer's Ariza

Anyone else you might know?

They have until Wednesday to inform their teams but I was expecting to see more players to come forward by now and officially say they are out especially after all the talks on #BLM. Maybe the idea of not getting paid for missing games is also bothering them.

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Quote from: Reid on June 23, 2020, 09:01:09 AM

More intrigued with his speed and agility.
Did he gain some of those during the lockdown period solo practices?

Yeah, it's just for only 2 months and he gained that weight loss. He just looks like Porzingis.

His only problem is fatigue, but if he puts some muscle next year, we'll see a Giannis (jk).

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Quote from: asu on June 23, 2020, 02:56:50 AM

Teams are getting ready to get back into shape. Would we see another D. Lillard scoring 50 point-game streak? Cheesy

We might.

Quote from: Sanitough on June 23, 2020, 06:36:09 AM

He may only have limited minutes with the Dallas Mavericks but he is for sure very useful in the playoffs as he has a lot of experience in the playoffs already. I checked his stats and he has played in different teams already. I'm not sure but I think the highlights of his career was when he was playing with the Memphis when this team was still a good playoff contender.

True! We will still miss him. Grin

I mean, he is still another good addition, especially on the defensive end. We know veterans, they are good at that when they are full of experiences.

Quote from: rhomelmabini on June 23, 2020, 06:41:44 AM

The Jokic transformation is somewhat tempting and there's a possibility of dominance because of it but I'll doubt if ever will make it to the Finals same goes to Dallas team. I'm always rooting it's somehow the two LA teams will be the one that'll head to head on the finals and I'm rooting Clippers will ever make it.

More intrigued with his speed and agility.
Did he gain some of those during the lockdown period solo practices?

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Quote from: freedomgo on June 23, 2020, 03:58:43 AM

How about Dallas vs Denver going against each other in the West Final, is it possible?
I like to see if the transformation of Jokic would be a big factor to help his team, yay! so excited for the resumption of the NBA.

The Jokic transformation is somewhat tempting and there's a possibility of dominance because of it but I'll doubt if ever will make it to the Finals same goes to Dallas team. I'm always rooting it's somehow the two LA teams will be the one that'll head to head on the finals and I'm rooting Clippers will ever make it.

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