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Quote from: Questat on February 11, 2020, 06:42:44 PM

Good comparison... This means the Raptors are better now compared to the past season but then it's just for regular season.

Clearly prior to the start of the regular season, the Raptors are so underestimated with only as sportsbook offers "+2500" if they'll win.
https://www.oddsshark.com/nba/nba-futures

It will be determine coming this second round, the playoff seasons are very different from the regular and knowing the impact playing without Kawhi will be test if Raptors will still survive. It's entertaining since everything is unpredictable from both East and West unlike when lebron still in the east and GSW still dominating the west.

Truth.
No way to predict who will be the champion. Better put your bets to whatever team you support as early as you could.
About comparisons though.
Let us also not forget Clippers fought the GSW last year which gave them a hard time to win that series.
I really saw a chance of winning back then. But GSW is just too strong for them. Well, they are the champions so it will be a difficult task to win specially at a crowded GSW homecourt.

The same thing would happen here with the Toronto crowd as they have a big crowd, and the fact that they are the defending champ and they are doing an incredible run so far, expect a huge crowd of fans once the playoff starts.

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Quote from: Questat on February 11, 2020, 06:42:44 PM

Good comparison... This means the Raptors are better now compared to the past season but then it's just for regular season.

Clearly prior to the start of the regular season, the Raptors are so underestimated with only as sportsbook offers "+2500" if they'll win.
https://www.oddsshark.com/nba/nba-futures

It will be determine coming this second round, the playoff seasons are very different from the regular and knowing the impact playing without Kawhi will be test if Raptors will still survive. It's entertaining since everything is unpredictable from both East and West unlike when lebron still in the east and GSW still dominating the west.

Truth.
No way to predict who will be the champion. Better put your bets to whatever team you support as early as you could.
About comparisons though.
Let us also not forget Clippers fought the GSW last year which gave them a hard time to win that series.
I really saw a chance of winning back then. But GSW is just too strong for them. Well, they are the champions so it will be a difficult task to win specially at a crowded GSW homecourt.

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Quote from: Questat on February 11, 2020, 06:42:44 PM

Good comparison... This means the Raptors are better now compared to the past season but then it's just for regular season.

Clearly prior to the start of the regular season, the Raptors are so underestimated with only as sportsbook offers "+2500" if they'll win.
https://www.oddsshark.com/nba/nba-futures

It will be determine coming this second round, the playoff seasons are very different from the regular and knowing the impact playing without Kawhi will be test if Raptors will still survive. It's entertaining since everything is unpredictable from both East and West unlike when lebron still in the east and GSW still dominating the west.

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Quote from: Captain Corporate on February 11, 2020, 11:35:08 AM

Lets be honest here, Raptors did take advantage of Kawhi but at the same time dude wasn't really all that much around during the season. Sure he played a lot of games but Raptors never really relied on Kawhi during the season. What he brought during the playoffs was the real deal, we all remember the last second shot against sixers for example, after that we can count on his amazing defense on locking up superstars as well. Nobody can deny that Kawhi was a HUGE part of raptors team last year and can go as far as saying Raptors wouldn't be champions if it wasn't for Kawhi. However teams evolve, last year they found Siakam and FVV as great contributors, they played them a lot during the season and on playoffs as well, now they are giving those two a lot more minutes, so whatever they lost with Kawhi, they sort of made it up back by the improvements of others all together instead of getting another star.

Good point. I've mentioned that before too that Kawhi isn't really the main factor why Raptors got a decent season record last season. Actually, not just last season, they are consistent in having a good record for several seasons now.

Kawhi Leonard played 60 games for the Raptors last season with a record of 41W 19L. Here, we can see that the Raptors are playing well with or without Leonard. We have seen big improvements in the likes of VanFleet, Siakam, and many others (I didn't mention Lowry, he is good year by year). In the playoffs up to the finals, that's when we witnessed Leonard's big contribution resulting in a championship.

And this season:

Good comparison... This means the Raptors are better now compared to the past season but then it's just for regular season.

Clearly prior to the start of the regular season, the Raptors are so underestimated with only as sportsbook offers "+2500" if they'll win.
https://www.oddsshark.com/nba/nba-futures

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Quote from: Captain Corporate on February 11, 2020, 11:35:08 AM

Lets be honest here, Raptors did take advantage of Kawhi but at the same time dude wasn't really all that much around during the season. Sure he played a lot of games but Raptors never really relied on Kawhi during the season. What he brought during the playoffs was the real deal, we all remember the last second shot against sixers for example, after that we can count on his amazing defense on locking up superstars as well. Nobody can deny that Kawhi was a HUGE part of raptors team last year and can go as far as saying Raptors wouldn't be champions if it wasn't for Kawhi. However teams evolve, last year they found Siakam and FVV as great contributors, they played them a lot during the season and on playoffs as well, now they are giving those two a lot more minutes, so whatever they lost with Kawhi, they sort of made it up back by the improvements of others all together instead of getting another star.

Good point. I've mentioned that before too that Kawhi isn't really the main factor why Raptors got a decent season record last season. Actually, not just last season, they are consistent in having a good record for several seasons now.

Kawhi Leonard played 60 games for the Raptors last season with a record of 41W 19L. Here, we can see that the Raptors are playing well with or without Leonard. We have seen big improvements in the likes of VanFleet, Siakam, and many others (I didn't mention Lowry, he is good year by year). In the playoffs up to the finals, that's when we witnessed Leonard's big contribution resulting in a championship.

And this season:

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Quote from: Captain Corporate on February 11, 2020, 11:35:08 AM

Lets be honest here, Raptors did take advantage of Kawhi but at the same time dude wasn't really all that much around during the season. Sure he played a lot of games but Raptors never really relied on Kawhi during the season.

Are you even thinking what you are saying? Kawhi played 60 out of 83 regular season games for Toronto and those 60 games he played he averaged around 34 mpg and that's around 3 quarters worth of play time. You might be saying this only because Raptors are still in the 2nd seed this season but Kawhi did a lot for them, especially during the Finals where he averaged around 39 minutes proving more that he is their best player is him winning the Finals MVP during that series. It was good the Siakam and VanVleet adjusted for the team well without Kawhi and whether you agree or not he was the difference maker last season for them.

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Lets be honest here, Raptors did take advantage of Kawhi but at the same time dude wasn't really all that much around during the season. Sure he played a lot of games but Raptors never really relied on Kawhi during the season. What he brought during the playoffs was the real deal, we all remember the last second shot against sixers for example, after that we can count on his amazing defense on locking up superstars as well. Nobody can deny that Kawhi was a HUGE part of raptors team last year and can go as far as saying Raptors wouldn't be champions if it wasn't for Kawhi. However teams evolve, last year they found Siakam and FVV as great contributors, they played them a lot during the season and on playoffs as well, now they are giving those two a lot more minutes, so whatever they lost with Kawhi, they sort of made it up back by the improvements of others all together instead of getting another star.

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Quote from: bitgolden on February 11, 2020, 10:37:00 AM

Raptors are on a 15 game streak now, considering they have lost Kawhi which is seen as one of the best players in the game right now and won 2 finals mvp with 2 different teams and managed to destroy the warriors dynasty (with the help of a lot of injuries), it is a marvelous achievement that they have managed to lose both Danny green and Kawhi and still managed to become second seein in east without ever getting any worse.

I would have assumed them to have a horrible year of just developing the young talents but players like Siakam and OG stepped up their games and become stars. I am giving my most improved player award to Siakam very easily. Both the east and west going to be so much awesome this year, I can't believe how many possibilities can happen this season.

Raptors are underrated now because people thought its Leonard that is the only reason why the Raptors won a championship, but they have proven they can still compete without him and that win streak is a big statement that they are also a threat, they are calling the teams to consider them now.
they will surely be in the playoffs this season, no doubt about that but it should be a big challenge for them as playoffs is different from regular season.

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Raptors are on a 15 game streak now, considering they have lost Kawhi which is seen as one of the best players in the game right now and won 2 finals mvp with 2 different teams and managed to destroy the warriors dynasty (with the help of a lot of injuries), it is a marvelous achievement that they have managed to lose both Danny green and Kawhi and still managed to become second seein in east without ever getting any worse.

I would have assumed them to have a horrible year of just developing the young talents but players like Siakam and OG stepped up their games and become stars. I am giving my most improved player award to Siakam very easily. Both the east and west going to be so much awesome this year, I can't believe how many possibilities can happen this season.

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Quote from: arwin100 on February 11, 2020, 09:14:14 AM

You can find the link here https://www.google.com/amp/s/clutchpoints.com/sixers-rumors-rival-teams-starting-to-prepare-for-possibility-of-76ers-trading-joel-embiid/amp/ but It's just a rumor since if they trade embiid for sure their team will collapse interms of defense since Joel is a big contributor on defensive side on the court. And if they pursue this for sure many teams will get an interest to acquire him since it's a big win for a team if Embiid will be part of their rooster.

Difficult to find a good center now and he is one of it.
If this rumor will come to a sad ending then many teams will be spending their money for him.

His contract is until 2023 for the 76ers.
https://www.spotrac.com/nba/philadelphia-76ers/joel-embiid-15355/
I don't think they will extend him at that much if they just want to release him in a short span of time.

Again those are just rumors and maybe some click bait for advertisement.

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Quote from: TravelMug on February 11, 2020, 10:16:43 AM

Definitely, any teams that will acquire Joel will win, but the question is at what cost?

They need to match the salary he is getting with the Sixers, if he is traded, sure it's gonna be for a number of players in exchange of him or another superstar. In 2017 he was given a max contract with the Sixers - https://www.nba.com/article/2017/10/09/joel-embiid-philadelphia-76ers-agree-extension-report

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A person familiar with the situation tells The Associated Press that Embiid and the Sixers have agreed on a $148 million, five-year extension and it could increase even more if the 7-foot center reaches certain incentives.

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By thew way we have some good match up tomorrow in our timezone, we got the Sixers and the Clippers.

Which team would win here?

I am rooting for Clippers in this match up. There were rumors that the sixers are considering putting Joel Embiid in the market and I don't know how the man is handling it but that's probably going to affect his focus in the game. When you face a top team in Clippers, even the smallest distraction can cost you the game.

I haven't read about that rumor, if you could put an article or any source of information, I will highly appreciate that.
However that is just a rumor, so don't take it seriously, Embiid is a hot asset in any team, every team that needs a good center will try to acquire him.

You can find the link here https://www.google.com/amp/s/clutchpoints.com/sixers-rumors-rival-teams-starting-to-prepare-for-possibility-of-76ers-trading-joel-embiid/amp/ but It's just a rumor since if they trade embiid for sure their team will collapse interms of defense since Joel is a big contributor on defensive side on the court. And if they pursue this for sure many teams will get an interest to acquire him since it's a big win for a team if Embiid will be part of their rooster.

I think the article has pointed out one key argument, Joel and Ben might not be a perfect fit after all.

That's where this rumours have started, I guess as basketball fans, we can agree to disagree if those two are not a match. We have seen them together almost going to the finals last year, if not for Kawhi's miraculous three in the corner. Although they are in the 5th place, I think they can still go past the first round of the playoffs. Definitely, any teams that will acquire Joel will win, but the question is at what cost?

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Quote from: Russlenat on February 11, 2020, 07:58:42 AM

By thew way we have some good match up tomorrow in our timezone, we got the Sixers and the Clippers.

Which team would win here?

I am rooting for Clippers in this match up. There were rumors that the sixers are considering putting Joel Embiid in the market and I don't know how the man is handling it but that's probably going to affect his focus in the game. When you face a top team in Clippers, even the smallest distraction can cost you the game.

Either team could win in this game, the oddsmaker has so much respect on the Clippers since they are the favorite against the best home team in the East.
I'm thinking soon the odds will change in favor of the Clippers and they will be the favorites in this game, once that happens, I will finalize my bet and I will take the Sixers to win.

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Quote from: arwin100 on February 11, 2020, 09:14:14 AM

And if they pursue this for sure many teams will get an interest to acquire him since it's a big win for a team if Embiid will be part of their rooster.

This is just a rumor, the management would not allow to trade Embiid when he has been doing great for the team.
I know they have big man who can replace him but Embiid is a special player, he can post up, shoot from the outside and a good rebounder as well.

Let us put more precise information like those which will likely to happen than this kind of rumor that we know it has a very slim chance of happening.

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Quote from: Russlenat on February 11, 2020, 07:58:42 AM

By thew way we have some good match up tomorrow in our timezone, we got the Sixers and the Clippers.

Which team would win here?

I am rooting for Clippers in this match up. There were rumors that the sixers are considering putting Joel Embiid in the market and I don't know how the man is handling it but that's probably going to affect his focus in the game. When you face a top team in Clippers, even the smallest distraction can cost you the game.

I haven't read about that rumor, if you could put an article or any source of information, I will highly appreciate that.
However that is just a rumor, so don't take it seriously, Embiid is a hot asset in any team, every team that needs a good center will try to acquire him.

You can find the link here https://www.google.com/amp/s/clutchpoints.com/sixers-rumors-rival-teams-starting-to-prepare-for-possibility-of-76ers-trading-joel-embiid/amp/ but It's just a rumor since if they trade embiid for sure their team will collapse interms of defense since Joel is a big contributor on defensive side on the court. And if they pursue this for sure many teams will get an interest to acquire him since it's a big win for a team if Embiid will be part of their rooster.

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Quote from: rosezionjohn on February 11, 2020, 08:07:44 AM

Quote from: Russlenat on February 11, 2020, 07:58:42 AM

By thew way we have some good match up tomorrow in our timezone, we got the Sixers and the Clippers.

Which team would win here?

I am rooting for Clippers in this match up. There were rumors that the sixers are considering putting Joel Embiid in the market and I don't know how the man is handling it but that's probably going to affect his focus in the game. When you face a top team in Clippers, even the smallest distraction can cost you the game.

I haven't read about that rumor, if you could put an article or any source of information, I will highly appreciate that.
However that is just a rumor, so don't take it seriously, Embiid is a hot asset in any team, every team that needs a good center will try to acquire him.

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Quote from: Russlenat on February 11, 2020, 07:58:42 AM

By thew way we have some good match up tomorrow in our timezone, we got the Sixers and the Clippers.

Which team would win here?

I am rooting for Clippers in this match up. There were rumors that the sixers are considering putting Joel Embiid in the market and I don't know how the man is handling it but that's probably going to affect his focus in the game. When you face a top team in Clippers, even the smallest distraction can cost you the game.

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Clarkson is a great addition for Jazz as before him they had non-existent bench, but there is one big downside of him playing so good: I am not sure that Jazz will be able to resign him next season, he will cost a lot if he continues playing like this. Well downside for Jazz, Not Clarkson of course Grin

. This year he got 13.4 million USD, and his next contract might go over 20 million per year.

If they really want to keep him they can keep him by giving him a good contract.

here's the current payroll https://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/UTA.html (not sure if its updated).

based on the payroll we are seeing that Mitchell and Clarkson are still not getting max contract but they will soon as conley will be free agent in 2021.
https://www.spotrac.com/nba/utah-jazz/mike-conley-2532/

Thank you for that valuable information, I can remember that Conley was one of the biggest contract the during the year he sign it.

this news was published last July 1, 2016 so his contract will expire next year of the same month and I don't think jazz would still sign him with a max contract knowing he is prone to injury and his contribution to the team has lowered down, they'll give that to the young and improving players like Clarkson and Mitchell.

If Conley have save money from that big salary of him, he doesn't need to play anymore and just enjoy early retirement.
He is already 32 years old and he is not like other star players like Lebron that despite of the age they were able to maintain their good performance, his best times in NBA is with the team Memphis only and I witness how good they are beating good teams like Clippers, OKC, and even Spurs.

The golden days for him is over. They were so good in Memphis with their starting line up,..Gasol, Randolph, and Tony Allen, the grit and grind team.

By thew way we have some good match up tomorrow in our timezone, we got the Sixers and the Clippers.

Which team would win here?

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Quote from: Finestream on February 11, 2020, 07:16:50 AM

Quote from: Rikafip on February 11, 2020, 07:02:59 AM

Clarkson is a great addition for Jazz as before him they had non-existent bench, but there is one big downside of him playing so good: I am not sure that Jazz will be able to resign him next season, he will cost a lot if he continues playing like this. Well downside for Jazz, Not Clarkson of course Grin

. This year he got 13.4 million USD, and his next contract might go over 20 million per year.

If they really want to keep him they can keep him by giving him a good contract.

here's the current payroll https://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/UTA.html (not sure if its updated).

based on the payroll we are seeing that Mitchell and Clarkson are still not getting max contract but they will soon as conley will be free agent in 2021.
https://www.spotrac.com/nba/utah-jazz/mike-conley-2532/

Thank you for that valuable information, I can remember that Conley was one of the biggest contract the during the year he sign it.

this news was published last July 1, 2016 so his contract will expire next year of the same month and I don't think jazz would still sign him with a max contract knowing he is prone to injury and his contribution to the team has lowered down, they'll give that to the young and improving players like Clarkson and Mitchell.

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Quote from: Botnake on February 11, 2020, 03:19:06 AM

Another win by the Jazz, once again Clarkson was still their best contributor on the offense side, he tallied 25 points playing 30 minutes... that was really efficient isn't it? After experiencing a long losing streak, they are bound for a new win streak now, and with this Clarkson is no doubt a great contender on the 6th man of the year.

Hope he will continue doing this type of game, its a good compliment if he will win the 6th man of the year. He's starting to make a new hypes for his name and continuing his career to prove his worth.
Back to back win for them and looking forward to continue a much better spot while the second round is approaching.

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