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June 23, 2020, 06:36:09 AM
Meanwhile @Reid @harizen one of your buddy in Dallas:
10 hours ago: Lee sustained a calf injury while working out during the NBA's hiatus and underwent surgery, Mark Stein of The New York Times reports.


Bad news for him but I think Dallas would not be affected a lot with this injury since they have a lot of bench players ,Courtney Lee's statistics this season is not that good, he only average 4.5 PPG, so it's not a lot to fill from whoever would fill it.

Let's look at his stats here https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/l/leeco01.html

He may only have limited minutes with the Dallas Mavericks but he is for sure very useful in the playoffs as he has a lot of experience in the playoffs already. I checked his stats and he has played in different teams already. I'm not sure but I think the highlights of his career was when he was playing with the Memphis when this team was still a good playoff contender.
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June 23, 2020, 06:20:11 AM
Meanwhile @Reid @harizen one of your buddy in Dallas:
10 hours ago: Lee sustained a calf injury while working out during the NBA's hiatus and underwent surgery, Mark Stein of The New York Times reports.


Bad news for him but I think Dallas would not be affected a lot with this injury since they have a lot of bench players ,Courtney Lee's statistics this season is not that good, he only average 4.5 PPG, so it's not a lot to fill from whoever would fill it.

Let's look at his stats here https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/l/leeco01.html
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June 23, 2020, 03:58:43 AM
you can check the odds in https://nitrogensports.eu/sport/Basketball/NBA%20-%20Futures

It's also tempting me to take this odds now. What do you guys think?

I'm biased. My friends know that I'm a Dallas Maverick for a long-time so whatever the odds I'm placing a bet with them. Honestly, even at low odds playing around @0.3 to 0.4 I still picking them risking a decent amount to somehow feel the profit in return. I shared some of my bets here if I'm not mistaken. Of course, I'm doing it alongside my own analysis and not just simply placing a bet. During their championship season, they have a good record but they aren't even on the list of expected teams to become a champion that season. Not saying it will happen again but I'm just a biased lol.

So if I have to answer your question, YES "disregarding" those dominant teams.

But for the majority sports analyst, obviously, Mavericks isn't on their list to becomes a champion. I'm also with them but still, I will consider placing for the Mavericks Futures. So yeah, decision making will be based on your own view. Smiley


Well said, if we like the team, we can be bias and just like what you did, even knowing that Dallas has a pretty small chance based on experts analysis but you still back them, that's why makes it every exiting knowing that you also bet on your team while you are cheering them to win the competition.

Too early, maybe if they are in the playoffs, one series at a time, winning the first round might pump up the excitement more.

Indeed. I am also biased here.
Actually I am worse than that.
I am betting for 2 Western teams.  Grin
Denver and Dallas.
It is not about being fooled or about the odds. It is about support and being a pure fan.
Stats of Doncic could have soared but yeah it doesn't mean they will win the Finals.
But who knows? If suddenly Lakers and Clippers will have a consecutive bad night and Dallas and Denver will have good ones then it can be a win.
With little profits but a big smile.

How about Dallas vs Denver going against each other in the West Final, is it possible?
I like to see if the transformation of Jokic would be a big factor to help his team, yay! so excited for the resumption of the NBA.

Teams are getting ready to get back into shape. Would we see another D. Lillard scoring 50 point-game streak? Cheesy

Interested... I thought he will not play. lol... if he will, yes 50 is just a usual number for him.
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June 23, 2020, 02:56:50 AM
Meanwhile @Reid @harizen one of your buddy in Dallas:
10 hours ago: Lee sustained a calf injury while working out during the NBA's hiatus and underwent surgery, Mark Stein of The New York Times reports.

Lakers latest news:
Danny Green gets the steal on LeBron in a Lakers practice.

Portland latest news:
social distancing

Teams are getting ready to get back into shape. Would we see another D. Lillard scoring 50 point-game streak? Cheesy
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June 23, 2020, 02:25:18 AM
you can check the odds in https://nitrogensports.eu/sport/Basketball/NBA%20-%20Futures

It's also tempting me to take this odds now. What do you guys think?

I'm biased. My friends know that I'm a Dallas Maverick for a long-time so whatever the odds I'm placing a bet with them. Honestly, even at low odds playing around @0.3 to 0.4 I still picking them risking a decent amount to somehow feel the profit in return. I shared some of my bets here if I'm not mistaken. Of course, I'm doing it alongside my own analysis and not just simply placing a bet. During their championship season, they have a good record but they aren't even on the list of expected teams to become a champion that season. Not saying it will happen again but I'm just a biased lol.

So if I have to answer your question, YES "disregarding" those dominant teams.

But for the majority sports analyst, obviously, Mavericks isn't on their list to becomes a champion. I'm also with them but still, I will consider placing for the Mavericks Futures. So yeah, decision making will be based on your own view. Smiley


Well said, if we like the team, we can be bias and just like what you did, even knowing that Dallas has a pretty small chance based on experts analysis but you still back them, that's why makes it every exiting knowing that you also bet on your team while you are cheering them to win the competition.

Too early, maybe if they are in the playoffs, one series at a time, winning the first round might pump up the excitement more.

Indeed. I am also biased here.
Actually I am worse than that.
I am betting for 2 Western teams.  Grin
Denver and Dallas.
It is not about being fooled or about the odds. It is about support and being a pure fan.
Stats of Doncic could have soared but yeah it doesn't mean they will win the Finals.
But who knows? If suddenly Lakers and Clippers will have a consecutive bad night and Dallas and Denver will have good ones then it can be a win.
With little profits but a big smile.
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June 23, 2020, 12:03:50 AM
you can check the odds in https://nitrogensports.eu/sport/Basketball/NBA%20-%20Futures

It's also tempting me to take this odds now. What do you guys think?

I'm biased. My friends know that I'm a Dallas Maverick for a long-time so whatever the odds I'm placing a bet with them. Honestly, even at low odds playing around @0.3 to 0.4 I still picking them risking a decent amount to somehow feel the profit in return. I shared some of my bets here if I'm not mistaken. Of course, I'm doing it alongside my own analysis and not just simply placing a bet. During their championship season, they have a good record but they aren't even on the list of expected teams to become a champion that season. Not saying it will happen again but I'm just a biased lol.

So if I have to answer your question, YES "disregarding" those dominant teams.

But for the majority sports analyst, obviously, Mavericks isn't on their list to becomes a champion. I'm also with them but still, I will consider placing for the Mavericks Futures. So yeah, decision making will be based on your own view. Smiley


Well said, if we like the team, we can be bias and just like what you did, even knowing that Dallas has a pretty small chance based on experts analysis but you still back them, that's why makes it every exiting knowing that you also bet on your team while you are cheering them to win the competition.

Too early, maybe if they are in the playoffs, one series at a time, winning the first round might pump up the excitement more.
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June 22, 2020, 06:51:56 PM
you can check the odds in https://nitrogensports.eu/sport/Basketball/NBA%20-%20Futures

It's also tempting me to take this odds now. What do you guys think?

I'm biased. My friends know that I'm a Dallas Maverick for a long-time so whatever the odds I'm placing a bet with them. Honestly, even at low odds playing around @0.3 to 0.4 I still picking them risking a decent amount to somehow feel the profit in return. I shared some of my bets here if I'm not mistaken. Of course, I'm doing it alongside my own analysis and not just simply placing a bet. During their championship season, they have a good record but they aren't even on the list of expected teams to become a champion that season. Not saying it will happen again but I'm just a biased lol.

So if I have to answer your question, YES "disregarding" those dominant teams.

But for the majority sports analyst, obviously, Mavericks isn't on their list to becomes a champion. I'm also with them but still, I will consider placing for the Mavericks Futures. So yeah, decision making will be based on your own view. Smiley
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June 22, 2020, 06:30:31 PM
Bubble restart around the corner, less than 40 days left.
Tomorrow/today is the deadline for players to make up their mind and report to teams whether or not they are going to play in Orlando.

We have two players, Trevor Ariza (POR) and Davis Bertans (WAS) who announced today that they will opt-out of playing.
sources: https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1275181721613406208
              https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1275074936197885959


I expect to see a lot more players drop out for a variety of reasons, those coming off serious injuries, players in contract years, or players preoccupied with the social injustice talk. Not to mention that teams have to start testing their players, if it's anything like the NFL or College Football there will be lots of positive tests.
"23 Clemson football players test positive for coronavirus".
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June 22, 2020, 05:46:18 PM
I would say do not bet on Mavericks just yet. Sure they might become a team that will challenge for a title in few seasons but not right now, not this soon.
With that odds I can bet, but I won't expect that they have a big chance of winning and even going into the NBA finals.
This is just like a lottery bet though, only bet what you can afford to lose, just to have some excitement while watching, I think that would help.

Same here, I might take that odds but I will not expect hard that I will win, maybe we can bet like $10 or $100 for that, depending on your budge actually. For a +3700 odds, if you bet $100, the return of your money if you win is $3700, that's a huge amount, right?

Worth taking a shot IMO.


You might see Luka's stats and get fooled and you might think just because they managed to be in playoffs after a rebuild so quickly they might upset some teams however even if they go to finals which is a big if and won't happen there is still the team from the east as well.

So, they need to beat 4 better teams and that doesn't happen, you might get lucky with one, you might just pull it off with the second one but not 4 teams on 7 game series. Most likely outcome right now is either first round exit or a second round exit, that's it. However in few years I do see them becoming contenders, just like how Giannis took Bucks to a whole new level, I am sure Luka will too.

Nothing is impossible though the chance is small, we are not just talking about Luka here but the entire Dallas Mavericks roster, they are all capable of winning and they are hungry that's why you can bet on them.

That's why you should only bet a small amount so you can just forget it if that would result to a losing bet.
In the playoffs, it's a different kind of game, who knows we will see a smarter and a better Dallas Mavericks team who could compete with the heavy favorites in the league.

Based on the odds from a particular sportsbook shared in the previous page.

Top favorites are ; 1) LA Lakers 2) Bucks 3) LA Clippers
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June 22, 2020, 05:11:54 PM
I would say do not bet on Mavericks just yet. Sure they might become a team that will challenge for a title in few seasons but not right now, not this soon.
With that odds I can bet, but I won't expect that they have a big chance of winning and even going into the NBA finals.
This is just like a lottery bet though, only bet what you can afford to lose, just to have some excitement while watching, I think that would help.


You might see Luka's stats and get fooled and you might think just because they managed to be in playoffs after a rebuild so quickly they might upset some teams however even if they go to finals which is a big if and won't happen there is still the team from the east as well.

So, they need to beat 4 better teams and that doesn't happen, you might get lucky with one, you might just pull it off with the second one but not 4 teams on 7 game series. Most likely outcome right now is either first round exit or a second round exit, that's it. However in few years I do see them becoming contenders, just like how Giannis took Bucks to a whole new level, I am sure Luka will too.

Nothing is impossible though the chance is small, we are not just talking about Luka here but the entire Dallas Mavericks roster, they are all capable of winning and they are hungry that's why you can bet on them.
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June 22, 2020, 01:46:09 PM
I would say do not bet on Mavericks just yet. Sure they might become a team that will challenge for a title in few seasons but not right now, not this soon.

You might see Luka's stats and get fooled and you might think just because they managed to be in playoffs after a rebuild so quickly they might upset some teams however even if they go to finals which is a big if and won't happen there is still the team from the east as well.

So, they need to beat 4 better teams and that doesn't happen, you might get lucky with one, you might just pull it off with the second one but not 4 teams on 7 game series. Most likely outcome right now is either first round exit or a second round exit, that's it. However in few years I do see them becoming contenders, just like how Giannis took Bucks to a whole new level, I am sure Luka will too.
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June 22, 2020, 11:21:33 AM

One of the main reasons why Lebron wanted to play with other stars all his career, because if you are playing against just Lebron lead team with no other star, all you have to do is stop him, or slow him down. Hence why having Oladipo could be an amazing improvement or maybe wouldn't be that big of a deal.
It's either he will help or he will just hurt himself.
Better to just rest and use that time to recover fully especially mentally.
He is not that bad when he came back January IIRC, but you could still see the hesitation.
The memory of the injury is still there and he's trying to keep himself safe.
That is not the Oladipo that we knew.

As of other stars in high seeds that are going to play, I bet they will also control the minutes to avoid injuries.
This is the reason why they need to inform their teams.
Or else, they will not play the whole 8 games.
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Players must inform their respective teams by Wednesday if they intend to participate in Florida — something many players have considered skipping due the massive Black Lives Matter movement, risks related to the coronavirus and more. Should they decide to opt out, they won’t be punished.
https://sports.yahoo.com/indiana-pacers-victor-oladipo-unsure-return-leg-torn-quad-injury-orlando-disney-world-224657526.html


NBA is so generous, yes they won't be punished but fans would surely hate them if they will not play, especially if they are part of the team starters or a star/s in a team. There's been a lot of happening in the background, but the good thing is the NBA is very persistent in resuming the games.

Though we will just be watching at home, I still hope that for the fans, our favorite players will take part, as this is not just their personal interest, they also have to consider the fans who are vital as without the fans NBA would not be popular.

I think not.
Most of the fans might be thankful enough just to see the NBA being resumed and them/us watching it.

Some fans might just think players are avoiding to be infected by Covid-19 virus.
Others will say there is just so much happening in their country.
As for me, I am satisfied to just watch them play and can still keep themselves safe.
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June 22, 2020, 08:04:43 AM

I hope you are wrong because I also like to see Luka in bigger stage, like the NBA finals, and that is a big challenge as Mavericks needs to beat both the Lakers and the Clippers which I think they have a very little chance.

This discussion leads me to checking the betting odds for the Mavericks to win the NBA finals, and this is the odds.

+3000 (https://www.oddsshark.com/nba/championship-odds)


Mavs still needs a few more season, and a few more team chemistry. Their team is solid and there are couple of role players. If Luka can figure out how to improve his leadership skills asap, then I might say they'll for sure become a championship caliber team next season.
I myself would love to see Luka and Porzingis play in NBA finals. These two players are young and hungry to win a title, but what makes it more interesting is that teams in the NBA today has been more competitive than the past few seasons where the GSW and Cavs just easily dominate their respective conferences.

Anyway, that odd might change depends on how they'll perform when NBA resumes.

It might change but if we are looking for a better odds, even better than what was shared, we can get Mavericks now at +3700

you can check the odds in https://nitrogensports.eu/sport/Basketball/NBA%20-%20Futures

It's also tempting me to take this odds now. What do you guys think?
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June 22, 2020, 07:23:04 AM

I hope you are wrong because I also like to see Luka in bigger stage, like the NBA finals, and that is a big challenge as Mavericks needs to beat both the Lakers and the Clippers which I think they have a very little chance.

This discussion leads me to checking the betting odds for the Mavericks to win the NBA finals, and this is the odds.

+3000 (https://www.oddsshark.com/nba/championship-odds)


Mavs still needs a few more season, and a few more team chemistry. Their team is solid and there are couple of role players. If Luka can figure out how to improve his leadership skills asap, then I might say they'll for sure become a championship caliber team next season.
I myself would love to see Luka and Porzingis play in NBA finals. These two players are young and hungry to win a title, but what makes it more interesting is that teams in the NBA today has been more competitive than the past few seasons where the GSW and Cavs just easily dominate their respective conferences.

Anyway, that odd might change depends on how they'll perform when NBA resumes.

We are too quick to decide, let's see what they can do this season or this playoffs.

They are an underrated team, it's normal that people would think that they have a  small chance of winning as West is full of good teams but it's hard to conclude early as the ball is round and anything can happen. IMO, Luka is already a good leader, he has improved a lot and this is his first playoffs and if in case they will fail to win the championship, at least they will learn a lot.
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June 22, 2020, 07:02:36 AM

I hope you are wrong because I also like to see Luka in bigger stage, like the NBA finals, and that is a big challenge as Mavericks needs to beat both the Lakers and the Clippers which I think they have a very little chance.

This discussion leads me to checking the betting odds for the Mavericks to win the NBA finals, and this is the odds.

+3000 (https://www.oddsshark.com/nba/championship-odds)


Mavs still needs a few more season, and a few more team chemistry. Their team is solid and there are couple of role players. If Luka can figure out how to improve his leadership skills asap, then I might say they'll for sure become a championship caliber team next season.
I myself would love to see Luka and Porzingis play in NBA finals. These two players are young and hungry to win a title, but what makes it more interesting is that teams in the NBA today has been more competitive than the past few seasons where the GSW and Cavs just easily dominate their respective conferences.

Anyway, that odd might change depends on how they'll perform when NBA resumes.
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June 22, 2020, 06:51:01 AM
NBA is so generous, yes they won't be punished but fans would surely hate them if they will not play, especially if they are part of the team starters or a star/s in a team. There's been a lot of happening in the background, but the good thing is the NBA is very persistent in resuming the games.
Yeah, they'll be just receiving a salary cut (as mentioned here before, just a few pages back  Wink. So no more sort of legalities as the league knew players had some dilemma in this crucial times.

Though we will just be watching at home, I still hope that for the fans, our favorite players will take part, as this is not just their personal interest, they also have to consider the fans who are vital as without the fans NBA would not be popular.
Not sure but I don't think majority of stars players wouldn't play. As I see it was just Kyrie and Howard who are vocals in this matter, and the rest of the guys are silent, what I mean is that, they aren't showing any sign of opposition. And so, looks like we would be able to see them play though. Beside I am pretty sure they're missin' playing once again  Tongue.


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I'm expecting majority would play but I'm hoping that all will play, Irving maybe in the star status until now but is he fully available to play already?
His team could quality in the playoffs, so it's important that he plays if he is fully healthy, he can bring that fight somewhere else but not to sacrifice the hope of his team in the coming playoffs.

here's the latest news about Irving per https://www.rotoworld.com/basketball/nba/player/29682/kyrie-irving


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June 22, 2020, 06:35:50 AM
NBA is so generous, yes they won't be punished but fans would surely hate them if they will not play, especially if they are part of the team starters or a star/s in a team. There's been a lot of happening in the background, but the good thing is the NBA is very persistent in resuming the games.
Yeah, they'll be just receiving a salary cut (as mentioned here before, just a few pages back  Wink. So no more sort of legalities as the league knew players had some dilemma in this crucial times.

Though we will just be watching at home, I still hope that for the fans, our favorite players will take part, as this is not just their personal interest, they also have to consider the fans who are vital as without the fans NBA would not be popular.
Not sure but I don't think majority of stars players wouldn't play. As I see it was just Kyrie and Howard who are vocals in this matter, and the rest of the guys are silent, what I mean is that, they aren't showing any sign of opposition. And so, looks like we would be able to see them play though. Beside I am pretty sure they're missin' playing once again  Tongue.

Here's some photos, and clips about Bron and Ben Simmons working out together

Am certain others guys are doing the same; conditioning themselves, and others have gone thinner Harden, Jokic and now Gasol (kind of odd condition) Cheesy.

I'm getting more excited since it is just for about 6 weeks from now till the league starts to operate again  Grin.
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June 22, 2020, 06:22:18 AM
I've stumbled upon this article on their website about the young players that will have impact whenever the season resumes. What do you say about this and I know most of us likes Luka but spare him and look for the other good young athletes.
(https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/zion-williamson-luka-doncic-lead-the-nba-players-under-25-who-will-make-a-huge-impact-when-the/)


It's Luka and Zion, both are great young players.

In the article, it mentioned about young MVP's under 25 years old, the latest was Kawhi Leonard with the spurs, a well deserved recognition that time but I don't think both Luka and Zion had a great chance of achieving that now since their respective team does not have a good ranking to win the NBA Championship this season.

That's my instinct and my opinion, though both players are exciting to watch, but their team is not a championship caliber team yet.

I hope I'm wrong as I want to see Luka to achieved another milestone of success.

I hope you are wrong because I also like to see Luka in bigger stage, like the NBA finals, and that is a big challenge as Mavericks needs to beat both the Lakers and the Clippers which I think they have a very little chance.

This discussion leads me to checking the betting odds for the Mavericks to win the NBA finals, and this is the odds.

+3000 (https://www.oddsshark.com/nba/championship-odds)
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June 22, 2020, 06:17:19 AM
I've stumbled upon this article on their website about the young players that will have impact whenever the season resumes. What do you say about this and I know most of us likes Luka but spare him and look for the other good young athletes.
(https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/zion-williamson-luka-doncic-lead-the-nba-players-under-25-who-will-make-a-huge-impact-when-the/)


It's Luka and Zion, both are great young players.

In the article, it mentioned about young MVP's under 25 years old, the latest was Kawhi Leonard with the spurs, a well deserved recognition that time but I don't think both Luka and Zion had a great chance of achieving that now since their respective team does not have a good ranking to win the NBA Championship this season.

That's my instinct and my opinion, though both players are exciting to watch, but their team is not a championship caliber team yet.

I hope I'm wrong as I want to see Luka to achieved another milestone of success.
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June 22, 2020, 06:08:49 AM
I've stumbled upon this article on their website about the young players that will have impact whenever the season resumes. What do you say about this and I know most of us likes Luka but spare him and look for the other good young athletes.
(https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/zion-williamson-luka-doncic-lead-the-nba-players-under-25-who-will-make-a-huge-impact-when-the/)
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