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Oladipo could be helping the team but could also very well might hurt the team as well. Remember when Utah didn't had Mike Conley and they played better? Sometimes just because you are a great player or maybe even the best player on the team that doesn't really mean the team will do better. The reason for this is when you are playing as a whole team you get to be a lot more tough to defend, everyone attacks the basket and you have 5 people to guard and if you miss one of them they will score however when you have one super star you have to focus on them

One of the main reasons why Lebron wanted to play with other stars all his career, because if you are playing against just Lebron lead team with no other star, all you have to do is stop him, or slow him down. Hence why having Oladipo could be an amazing improvement or maybe wouldn't be that big of a deal.

Are you forgetting that Oladipo was coming out of a injury when he played this season? Of course he will fail to do impressive numbers right now since his play time is limited and his cohesion with the team won't be that good. If you are judging him now and how he doesn't contribute well to the team it's because of that, I even doubt that the Pacers will become competitive again without him so he was really that unwanted star that can shine for them. You'll see what I mean if he won't be playing with the Pacers and the team won't have any replacement for him, they'll basically be trash even if Turner is around.

He's body is recovering for sure he will struggle plus you can add the emotional stress for that since for sure he will be careful so that he will not be injured again, I think he will struggle to get his numbers back since he encounter a gruesome injury. But I think pacer still a big team since they still have plenty of potential young legs and they should look for temporary replacement to cope up their need inside the court.

The decision depends on the coach, they can still give him a playing time but he might only play a limited minutes.
His contribution in the past was appreciated for sure, but if he can't contribute the same this playoffs, well, of course the coach will have to adjust.
Actually, I haven't seen Oladipo already back in his old self, it might still take time before he can fully regain his full confidence.

Yeah that will be better since it could help Oladipo to fully regenerate his self so that he will fully recovered and comeback stronger in next season. But this is a huge adjustment for them since they used to be rotating with oladipo but suddenly all changes when he got injured let see what will be the adjustment given when they comeback since the new guys should step up while their star is not in good shape.

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One of the main reasons why Lebron wanted to play with other stars all his career, because if you are playing against just Lebron lead team with no other star, all you have to do is stop him, or slow him down. Hence why having Oladipo could be an amazing improvement or maybe wouldn't be that big of a deal.

It's either he will help or he will just hurt himself.
Better to just rest and use that time to recover fully especially mentally.
He is not that bad when he came back January IIRC, but you could still see the hesitation.
The memory of the injury is still there and he's trying to keep himself safe.
That is not the Oladipo that we knew.

As of other stars in high seeds that are going to play, I bet they will also control the minutes to avoid injuries.
This is the reason why they need to inform their teams.
Or else, they will not play the whole 8 games.

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Players must inform their respective teams by Wednesday if they intend to participate in Florida — something many players have considered skipping due the massive Black Lives Matter movement, risks related to the coronavirus and more. Should they decide to opt out, they won’t be punished.

https://sports.yahoo.com/indiana-pacers-victor-oladipo-unsure-return-leg-torn-quad-injury-orlando-disney-world-224657526.html

NBA is so generous, yes they won't be punished but fans would surely hate them if they will not play, especially if they are part of the team starters or a star/s in a team. There's been a lot of happening in the background, but the good thing is the NBA is very persistent in resuming the games.

Though we will just be watching at home, I still hope that for the fans, our favorite players will take part, as this is not just their personal interest, they also have to consider the fans who are vital as without the fans NBA would not be popular.

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Quote from: bearexin on June 21, 2020, 02:45:37 PM

One of the main reasons why Lebron wanted to play with other stars all his career, because if you are playing against just Lebron lead team with no other star, all you have to do is stop him, or slow him down. Hence why having Oladipo could be an amazing improvement or maybe wouldn't be that big of a deal.

It's either he will help or he will just hurt himself.
Better to just rest and use that time to recover fully especially mentally.
He is not that bad when he came back January IIRC, but you could still see the hesitation.
The memory of the injury is still there and he's trying to keep himself safe.
That is not the Oladipo that we knew.

As of other stars in high seeds that are going to play, I bet they will also control the minutes to avoid injuries.
This is the reason why they need to inform their teams.
Or else, they will not play the whole 8 games.

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Players must inform their respective teams by Wednesday if they intend to participate in Florida — something many players have considered skipping due the massive Black Lives Matter movement, risks related to the coronavirus and more. Should they decide to opt out, they won’t be punished.

https://sports.yahoo.com/indiana-pacers-victor-oladipo-unsure-return-leg-torn-quad-injury-orlando-disney-world-224657526.html

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Quote from: bearexin on June 21, 2020, 02:45:37 PM

Oladipo could be helping the team but could also very well might hurt the team as well. Remember when Utah didn't had Mike Conley and they played better? Sometimes just because you are a great player or maybe even the best player on the team that doesn't really mean the team will do better. The reason for this is when you are playing as a whole team you get to be a lot more tough to defend, everyone attacks the basket and you have 5 people to guard and if you miss one of them they will score however when you have one super star you have to focus on them

One of the main reasons why Lebron wanted to play with other stars all his career, because if you are playing against just Lebron lead team with no other star, all you have to do is stop him, or slow him down. Hence why having Oladipo could be an amazing improvement or maybe wouldn't be that big of a deal.

Are you forgetting that Oladipo was coming out of a injury when he played this season? Of course he will fail to do impressive numbers right now since his play time is limited and his cohesion with the team won't be that good. If you are judging him now and how he doesn't contribute well to the team it's because of that, I even doubt that the Pacers will become competitive again without him so he was really that unwanted star that can shine for them. You'll see what I mean if he won't be playing with the Pacers and the team won't have any replacement for him, they'll basically be trash even if Turner is around.

He's body is recovering for sure he will struggle plus you can add the emotional stress for that since for sure he will be careful so that he will not be injured again, I think he will struggle to get his numbers back since he encounter a gruesome injury. But I think pacer still a big team since they still have plenty of potential young legs and they should look for temporary replacement to cope up their need inside the court.

The decision depends on the coach, they can still give him a playing time but he might only play a limited minutes.
His contribution in the past was appreciated for sure, but if he can't contribute the same this playoffs, well, of course the coach will have to adjust.
Actually, I haven't seen Oladipo already back in his old self, it might still take time before he can fully regain his full confidence.

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Quote from: Harlot on June 21, 2020, 05:23:08 PM

Quote from: bearexin on June 21, 2020, 02:45:37 PM

Oladipo could be helping the team but could also very well might hurt the team as well. Remember when Utah didn't had Mike Conley and they played better? Sometimes just because you are a great player or maybe even the best player on the team that doesn't really mean the team will do better. The reason for this is when you are playing as a whole team you get to be a lot more tough to defend, everyone attacks the basket and you have 5 people to guard and if you miss one of them they will score however when you have one super star you have to focus on them

One of the main reasons why Lebron wanted to play with other stars all his career, because if you are playing against just Lebron lead team with no other star, all you have to do is stop him, or slow him down. Hence why having Oladipo could be an amazing improvement or maybe wouldn't be that big of a deal.

Are you forgetting that Oladipo was coming out of a injury when he played this season? Of course he will fail to do impressive numbers right now since his play time is limited and his cohesion with the team won't be that good. If you are judging him now and how he doesn't contribute well to the team it's because of that, I even doubt that the Pacers will become competitive again without him so he was really that unwanted star that can shine for them. You'll see what I mean if he won't be playing with the Pacers and the team won't have any replacement for him, they'll basically be trash even if Turner is around.

He's body is recovering for sure he will struggle plus you can add the emotional stress for that since for sure he will be careful so that he will not be injured again, I think he will struggle to get his numbers back since he encounter a gruesome injury. But I think pacer still a big team since they still have plenty of potential young legs and they should look for temporary replacement to cope up their need inside the court.

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Quote from: bearexin on June 21, 2020, 02:45:37 PM

Oladipo could be helping the team but could also very well might hurt the team as well. Remember when Utah didn't had Mike Conley and they played better? Sometimes just because you are a great player or maybe even the best player on the team that doesn't really mean the team will do better. The reason for this is when you are playing as a whole team you get to be a lot more tough to defend, everyone attacks the basket and you have 5 people to guard and if you miss one of them they will score however when you have one super star you have to focus on them

One of the main reasons why Lebron wanted to play with other stars all his career, because if you are playing against just Lebron lead team with no other star, all you have to do is stop him, or slow him down. Hence why having Oladipo could be an amazing improvement or maybe wouldn't be that big of a deal.

Are you forgetting that Oladipo was coming out of a injury when he played this season? Of course he will fail to do impressive numbers right now since his play time is limited and his cohesion with the team won't be that good. If you are judging him now and how he doesn't contribute well to the team it's because of that, I even doubt that the Pacers will become competitive again without him so he was really that unwanted star that can shine for them. You'll see what I mean if he won't be playing with the Pacers and the team won't have any replacement for him, they'll basically be trash even if Turner is around.

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Oladipo could be helping the team but could also very well might hurt the team as well. Remember when Utah didn't had Mike Conley and they played better? Sometimes just because you are a great player or maybe even the best player on the team that doesn't really mean the team will do better. The reason for this is when you are playing as a whole team you get to be a lot more tough to defend, everyone attacks the basket and you have 5 people to guard and if you miss one of them they will score however when you have one super star you have to focus on them

One of the main reasons why Lebron wanted to play with other stars all his career, because if you are playing against just Lebron lead team with no other star, all you have to do is stop him, or slow him down. Hence why having Oladipo could be an amazing improvement or maybe wouldn't be that big of a deal.

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Quote from: Rosilito on June 21, 2020, 03:37:41 AM

Good thing Adam Silver remain firm with his decision though he had enough with his plate already... bunch of messed up circumstances though.

Problem with this is that without permissions of government, NBA won't be able to continue. And I am not so sure that they will allow it if covid numbers keep going up. Situation looked much better few weeks ago, like whole this thing was dying out. I guess we won't be 100% sure that league continues on July 30th until that date.

Quote from: dwminer1 on June 21, 2020, 07:49:54 AM

Optimistic news for Indiana Pacers and Victor Oladipo fans. There is a growing chance that this player will return this season. Everything will be clarified in the coming days. More: https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29339816/pacers-victor-oladipo-ramp-activity-committing-restart
In my opinion, Indiana did unexpectedly well this season without their leader. When Oladipo returns to play, their chances for a good play-off result will increase even more. They also still have a chance for TOP 4 in the East at the end of the regular season. Of course, his form will be a great unknown, but in the current situation we can say this about every player.

I don't think that they should push him to come back this season, or that he will be able to help them much after long break and all those injuries. Even if he comes back, i expect him to play on restricted minutes. But yeah, I agree that Pacers looked good even without him, and not just this season, they were pretty good previous season as well. Let's hope we see Oladipo back at the previous level, as that would make Pacers one of the contenders. Wasn't there a rumour that Pacers are thinking about trading Oladipo?

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Quote from: Reid on June 21, 2020, 08:37:35 AM

I think what they meant was they could put him in rest or make him play.
The safe side or the entertaining side.
Since they are on the 5th seed, there is nothing to worry about anymore.

The playoff will be a hard challenge in the Eastern Conference if he will get a chance to play again. Now, all that left is the further announcement of the team. We can say now he has a higher chance to play because he has fully recovered + the Pandemic suspension which made players get the ultimate rest they could ever have in the season.

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Quote from: dwminer1 on June 21, 2020, 07:49:54 AM

Optimistic news for Indiana Pacers and Victor Oladipo fans. There is a growing chance that this player will return this season. Everything will be clarified in the coming days. More: https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29339816/pacers-victor-oladipo-ramp-activity-committing-restart
In my opinion, Indiana did unexpectedly well this season without their leader. When Oladipo returns to play, their chances for a good play-off result will increase even more. They also still have a chance for TOP 4 in the East at the end of the regular season. Of course, his form will be a great unknown, but in the current situation we can say this about every player.

Wait! He did play already after rehabilitation.
It was said in the article. Grin

Before NBA shutdown.

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Oladipo had his best game of the season -- 27 points against the Boston Celtics -- in his final performance prior to the March 11 shutdown of the season.

I think what they meant was they could put him in rest or make him play.
The safe side or the entertaining side.
Since they are on the 5th seed, there is nothing to worry about anymore.

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Optimistic news for Indiana Pacers and Victor Oladipo fans. There is a growing chance that this player will return this season. Everything will be clarified in the coming days. More: https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29339816/pacers-victor-oladipo-ramp-activity-committing-restart
In my opinion, Indiana did unexpectedly well this season without their leader. When Oladipo returns to play, their chances for a good play-off result will increase even more. They also still have a chance for TOP 4 in the East at the end of the regular season. Of course, his form will be a great unknown, but in the current situation we can say this about every player.

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Quote from: Bttzed03 on June 21, 2020, 03:43:23 AM

^ They just need to close the entire place where the events will be held. Players, managers, coaches, and all staffs should be contained there until the season is over (defeated teams will be allowed to leave of course). Players shouldn't have a problem with that since I read that the venue will have plenty of leisure to give them enough entertainment.

I agree with that.
Close it down even with media.
They cannot go in and out the venue just to get a scoop.
If they allow them, then pick the ones who will accept agreements of not going out the premises.
There are other ways now to send the scoop with video calls and e-mails. They don't really need to write everything down and send it personally.

Just one mistake here and it will cost the whole NBA industry once again. Worse, it will also affect other US sports.

Media are necessary, who would give the news?
They just have to limit the people inside the venue, but all the necessary people with their respective jobs has to be their, media should be treated the way players are treated in terms of security protocol to ensure everything will be working fine.

Though there's still over a month but I think it's getting close everyday and I feel the excitement already, I'm sure you guys are feeling the same.

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Quote from: Bttzed03 on June 21, 2020, 03:43:23 AM

^ They just need to close the entire place where the events will be held. Players, managers, coaches, and all staffs should be contained there until the season is over (defeated teams will be allowed to leave of course). Players shouldn't have a problem with that since I read that the venue will have plenty of leisure to give them enough entertainment.

I agree with that.
Close it down even with media.
They cannot go in and out the venue just to get a scoop.
If they allow them, then pick the ones who will accept agreements of not going out the premises.
There are other ways now to send the scoop with video calls and e-mails. They don't really need to write everything down and send it personally.

Just one mistake here and it will cost the whole NBA industry once again. Worse, it will also affect other US sports.

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^ They just need to close the entire place where the events will be held. Players, managers, coaches, and all staffs should be contained there until the season is over (defeated teams will be allowed to leave of course). Players shouldn't have a problem with that since I read that the venue will have plenty of leisure to give them enough entertainment.

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Quote from: Reid on June 20, 2020, 08:07:22 AM

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With that being said, just read the news that Florida had more than 4,000 cases yesterday, and that is their record for 1 day, so far. Not a good thing to hear 5 weeks before season starts again, and I hope that won't leead up to cancellation. Adam Silver stays postive though, so that is good to hear.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2897064-report-adam-silver-confident-in-nbas-restart-despite-floridas-covid-19-spike

Haven't heard of any related news about NBA lately, and this what would I see? Damn, not a good news indeed Sad

. Good thing Adam Silver remain firm with his decision though he had enough with his plate already... bunch of messed up circumstances though.

Not sure, but I think if the league wouldn't be able to carry on to continue the league at the certain date, I think they will be moving it for several days later or maybe until stuff remain under control there. It is still risky to gamble health matters, after all Undecided

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Quote from: Reid on June 20, 2020, 08:07:22 AM

Safety measures should be strict.

A lot of people got too relaxed way too soon and stopped taking measures. And then you add on that all those mass protests where bunch of people gather, and you get perfect conditions for virus to spread. I remember when some people protested against measures, everyone condemned them for endangering others and spreading the virus, and now we have 100X more people protesting all over US, and no one cares about repercussions of doing that, suddenly virus isn't that dangerous and important.

With that being said, just read the news that Florida had more than 4,000 cases yesterday, and that is their record for 1 day, so far. Not a good thing to hear 5 weeks before season starts again, and I hope that won't leead up to cancellation. Adam Silver stays postive though, so that is good to hear.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2897064-report-adam-silver-confident-in-nbas-restart-despite-floridas-covid-19-spike

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Quote from: verita1 on June 21, 2020, 12:26:35 AM

It is clear that the best conditions are not yet being given to resume sports activities in the USA. I was optimistic when the UFC resumed operations in May and thought it might turn out by following strict coronavirus prevention measures. But today it is a sign that the virus cannot be controlled at sporting events in this nation.

It's a different issue when it comes to contact sports.
They have different hobbies of touching each other without even noticing it.

https://clutchpoints.com/nba-news-adam-silvers-reaction-covid-19-spike-in-florida-threatens-restart/
Adam Silver will not be stopped but he is also worried with what's happening in Florida.

But again..

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At the end of the day, it’s not all about the entertainment brought by the NBA. The league’s decision to push through with the season is geared more towards the need of the people involved — the players, the teams’ staff, the employees — to keep earning a living, especially in these hard times.

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It is clear that the best conditions are not yet being given to resume sports activities in the USA. I was optimistic when the UFC resumed operations in May and thought it might turn out by following strict coronavirus prevention measures. But today it is a sign that the virus cannot be controlled at sporting events in this nation.

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Quote from: stadus on June 20, 2020, 03:45:08 AM

Latest update on DEMARCUS COUSINS - https://www.rotoworld.com/basketball/nba/player/29578/demarcus-cousins

Wait a minute, he is waived? I didn't know Cousins was waived by the Lakers because he was injured, I thought he was still with the team but just on injured status. They waived him on February 23th and ever since that moment he wasn't playing for any team but to be honest by march the league was postponed anyway. This playoffs and pandemic could be the best thing that ever happened to him. If he is feeling better and can play this dude could go out there with any team and could prove that he still has his talents, just be a force inside for rebounds and even that would be great to get a new team.

Without the pandemic he would be sitting the whole year out and would play next year but thanks to Covid-19 the league was postponed and he might have time to play the game even if he is out of shape and needs to play some minutes to get back on his feet.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on June 20, 2020, 07:45:31 AM

The collapse of the sport in America seems to be on the horizon, a number of athletes have the coronavirus.
In the last 24 hours, Major League Soccer (MLS), National Football League (NFL), National Hockey League (NHL) and Baseball Major League (MLB) have recorded cases of coronavirus.
The MLS and NBA are especially wary because a lot of these new cases have happened in Florida where both professional leagues want to continue the season at Walt Disney World.
MLB club Philadelphia Phillies closed Clearwater Center in Florida after five players were positive, Toronto Blue Jays closed training center due to positive findings, while NHL team Tampa closed their arena after three players were positive at the coronavirus.
Dana White believes a second closure will occur.

Source: https://www.index.hr/sport/clanak/americki-sport-uzdrman-mnogobrojni-sportasi-zarazeni-koronom/2191840.aspx

This is what other players are worried about.
Even just one of them will be infected by the virus again then everything will be shut down without hesitation.

It doesn't matter where or whom it will come from.
Management, maintenance crew, cameraman, press... wherever or whoever it will be, everything will be affected.
I guess this is what they are trying to point out.
They all want to play, no doubt. But for what expense.

Safety measures should be strict.

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