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What type of leader would you prefer in a team? Louder like LBJ or more uncommunicative like KL? Personally, I think I would choose Lebron, although his huge charisma can be a great advantage, but sometimes it can also have a bad effect on the team. Anyway, I hope to see these players compete in the conference finals.

Lebron's ways personally is the best as it's also how super star like MJ and Kobe works, they wanted to boost the energy to come out their teammates, to some players who have egos might be not that good, but for players who knows how to adjust it's okay.

Players willingness to win allows them to listen whatever types of leadership lebron will implement as long as they've got same goals.

Both Lebron and Kawhi are MVP's and undeniable that they are the most popular complete players now in the NBA.
In terms of achievement, Lebron has a lot because he has a lot of attempts in the NBA finals compared to Leonard but the success rate favors to Leonard.

we can check their full comparison here.

https://www.landofbasketball.com/player_comparison/lebron_james_vs_kawhi_leonard.htm

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I'm with you, Lebron is good but in terms of Leadership I like "THE CLAW" Kawhi Leonard as he is willing to take the last shot, the last season, in the playoffs and NBA finals, there's a lot of highlights we can see how Leonard carry his team, including a thrilling win over the sixers as after that win, they never struggle anymore winning the NBA Finals.

Yeah, you're right, there's no doubt how good player Lebron is, but when it comes to leadership with the team, he lacks the skills and he always choose the best of the players out there. unlike Leonard, he is one of the reasons why we know the other players in Raptors like Siakam and the others. He proved that everyone can do his own game if given chance to play well. no sugar coating but I like how Leonard passes the ball to let his teammates shine on every game.

I couldn't say that I can agree on both of you. Lebron James is somehow a good leader and it has been proven a lot on some of his videos found in Youtube (mostly in CAVS uniform) that when he is in the sidelines he sometimes is the one making plays and not the coach, during time outs you will see him making strategies, while he is a point guard you will see him calling out plays, while he is in the bench you will see him cheer and sometimes be hype up when his teammates make an awesome play. These are just a few examples showing that Lebron is indeed a good leader.

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Quote from: dwminer1 on June 16, 2020, 03:15:27 AM

What type of leader would you prefer in a team? Louder like LBJ or more uncommunicative like KL? Personally, I think I would choose Lebron, although his huge charisma can be a great advantage, but sometimes it can also have a bad effect on the team. Anyway, I hope to see these players compete in the conference finals.

Lebron's ways personally is the best as it's also how super star like MJ and Kobe works, they wanted to boost the energy to come out their teammates, to some players who have egos might be not that good, but for players who knows how to adjust it's okay.

Players willingness to win allows them to listen whatever types of leadership lebron will implement as long as they've got same goals.

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Quote from: Rosilito on June 15, 2020, 11:09:20 AM

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Quote from: Rosilito on June 15, 2020, 12:30:44 AM

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Looks like it. It feels sarcastic for me.
If it is not, then great.

He really likes to tease all star players LOL Grin

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Yeah, it's annoying but that is his strategy and it did help the Clippers a lot like when they fought GSW defending the unstoppable Durant. Grin

Quote from: arwin100 on June 16, 2020, 09:08:48 AM

I don't agree with that do you see how big is the impact when he is on the floor? he always change the phase and his teammate will became more confident when he is on the court and look what happen in raptors he brought up the team to the finals and they win their chip. Maybe you mean he's so silent and that what makes him unique he became more famous for his attitude since people will find it mystery especially when he smiles.

I guess we are going back to the Kawhi, Lebron discussion. Cheesy

The mystery of Kawhi.
Silent but deadly.
Defensive player of the Year. That is one hell of a tough achievement.
Even Jordan was exhausted just reaching it.
It tells how a man pursues efforts in guarding every player at the highest level.

With Lebron, he is a pace changer, especially in his younger years.
He can just push offensively and pull his teammates by the rhythm.

It's difficult to pick if these two are being compared.
But if forced to do so, I am with Kawhi.

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I agree that Kawhi can be a team leader on the field. He showed it many times in matches of the regular season, as well as in the finals - in San Antonio beating LBJ or later in Raptors. However, Kawhi lacks the expression and charisma that a leader should have. The leader should be able to raise the team's morale not only by playing well, but sometimes also by some kind of behavior, I don't know, big dunk or a some gesture towards the fans. A bit of the character of a showman who can inspire the whole arena. Kawhi doesn't have it or shows it extremely rarely.

We might not seeing him talking to his teammates when he is playing, but as we see, whatever teams Leonard plays with, the team will improve and become a playoff contender and even a championship contender, what he did with the Toronto Raptors was a big achievement already, he gave the Raptors their first championship in their history (correct me if I'm wrong) and we even underestimate the Raptors with Leonard but Leonard proved us wrong.

The Raptors are undeniably having a good coach as they are still a contender now, but good them they have Leonard who listened and respect his coach so there's no division within the team.

Coach job is to design the play and players will follow whether you are a star or not.

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Quote from: Finestream on June 16, 2020, 06:18:23 AM

I'm with you, Lebron is good but in terms of Leadership I like "THE CLAW" Kawhi Leonard as he is willing to take the last shot, the last season, in the playoffs and NBA finals, there's a lot of highlights we can see how Leonard carry his team, including a thrilling win over the sixers as after that win, they never struggle anymore winning the NBA Finals.

Yeah, you're right, there's no doubt how good player Lebron is, but when it comes to leadership with the team, he lacks the skills and he always choose the best of the players out there. unlike Leonard, he is one of the reasons why we know the other players in Raptors like Siakam and the others. He proved that everyone can do his own game if given chance to play well. no sugar coating but I like how Leonard passes the ball to let his teammates shine on every game.

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Quote from: dwminer1 on June 16, 2020, 08:58:40 AM

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Many people here consider Lakers and Clippers to be the championship favorites. A few pages earlier there was also a discussion about the rivalry of Lebron and Kawhi. See what Danny Green, guy who played with them both, says about both leaders.

https://twitter.com/Schultz_Report/status/1272689341027024899

What type of leader would you prefer in a team? Louder like LBJ or more uncommunicative like KL? Personally, I think I would choose Lebron, although his huge charisma can be a great advantage, but sometimes it can also have a bad effect on the team. Anyway, I hope to see these players compete in the conference finals.

LeBron's leadership has been proven, though what makes him put in the bad light, is that he's always surrounded with superstars. He might not be recruiting them, but some of them would love to play along with him.
Leonard on the other hand, isn't that good as a leader of the squad. He's just an excellent both offensive and defensive player, he's the best asset a team could ever had. But, If we're talking about leadership, I would also choose LeBron over Leonard.

I don't need to watch the 2 minutes video but I presume that Green will say that Lebron is the better player than Leonard since he is currently playing with Lebron now in the LA Lakers. If my personal view will count to you guys, lol... I would choose Kawhi Leonard over Lebron James as he is more clutch and can be trusted to give a win to his team, many times I've seen him take the last shot or bring the ball to score for his team in crucial times, so I would choose him over Lebron who would just pass the ball. Sorry, no offense to the Lebron fans but this is just my bias opinion.

I'm with you, Lebron is good but in terms of Leadership I like "THE CLAW" Kawhi Leonard as he is willing to take the last shot, the last season, in the playoffs and NBA finals, there's a lot of highlights we can see how Leonard carry his team, including a thrilling win over the sixers as after that win, they never struggle anymore winning the NBA Finals.

I agree that Kawhi can be a team leader on the field. He showed it many times in matches of the regular season, as well as in the finals - in San Antonio beating LBJ or later in Raptors. However, Kawhi lacks the expression and charisma that a leader should have. The leader should be able to raise the team's morale not only by playing well, but sometimes also by some kind of behavior, I don't know, big dunk or a some gesture towards the fans. A bit of the character of a showman who can inspire the whole arena. Kawhi doesn't have it or shows it extremely rarely.

I don't agree with that do you see how big is the impact when he is on the floor? he always change the phase and his teammate will became more confident when he is on the court and look what happen in raptors he brought up the team to the finals and they win their chip. Maybe you mean he's so silent and that what makes him unique he became more famous for his attitude since people will find it mystery especially when he smiles.

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Quote from: Finestream on June 16, 2020, 06:18:23 AM

Quote from: Sanitough on June 16, 2020, 05:22:58 AM

Quote from: Oasisman on June 16, 2020, 04:35:43 AM

Quote from: dwminer1 on June 16, 2020, 03:15:27 AM

Many people here consider Lakers and Clippers to be the championship favorites. A few pages earlier there was also a discussion about the rivalry of Lebron and Kawhi. See what Danny Green, guy who played with them both, says about both leaders.

https://twitter.com/Schultz_Report/status/1272689341027024899

What type of leader would you prefer in a team? Louder like LBJ or more uncommunicative like KL? Personally, I think I would choose Lebron, although his huge charisma can be a great advantage, but sometimes it can also have a bad effect on the team. Anyway, I hope to see these players compete in the conference finals.

LeBron's leadership has been proven, though what makes him put in the bad light, is that he's always surrounded with superstars. He might not be recruiting them, but some of them would love to play along with him.
Leonard on the other hand, isn't that good as a leader of the squad. He's just an excellent both offensive and defensive player, he's the best asset a team could ever had. But, If we're talking about leadership, I would also choose LeBron over Leonard.

I don't need to watch the 2 minutes video but I presume that Green will say that Lebron is the better player than Leonard since he is currently playing with Lebron now in the LA Lakers. If my personal view will count to you guys, lol... I would choose Kawhi Leonard over Lebron James as he is more clutch and can be trusted to give a win to his team, many times I've seen him take the last shot or bring the ball to score for his team in crucial times, so I would choose him over Lebron who would just pass the ball. Sorry, no offense to the Lebron fans but this is just my bias opinion.

I'm with you, Lebron is good but in terms of Leadership I like "THE CLAW" Kawhi Leonard as he is willing to take the last shot, the last season, in the playoffs and NBA finals, there's a lot of highlights we can see how Leonard carry his team, including a thrilling win over the sixers as after that win, they never struggle anymore winning the NBA Finals.

I agree that Kawhi can be a team leader on the field. He showed it many times in matches of the regular season, as well as in the finals - in San Antonio beating LBJ or later in Raptors. However, Kawhi lacks the expression and charisma that a leader should have. The leader should be able to raise the team's morale not only by playing well, but sometimes also by some kind of behavior, I don't know, big dunk or a some gesture towards the fans. A bit of the character of a showman who can inspire the whole arena. Kawhi doesn't have it or shows it extremely rarely.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on June 16, 2020, 07:26:06 AM

Quote from: Finestream on June 16, 2020, 06:18:23 AM

I'm with you, Lebron is good but in terms of Leadership I like "THE CLAW" Kawhi Leonard as he is willing to take the last shot, the last season, in the playoffs and NBA finals, there's a lot of highlights we can see how Leonard carry his team, including a thrilling win over the sixers as after that win, they never struggle anymore winning the NBA Finals.

Now that's something.
I thought I am going to see comments of pure Lebron fans only. Grin

IMO, they are different when compared to leadership.
I don't see Kawhi talking a lot when it comes to crucial minutes which is the opposite of Lebron.
Kawhi will just let the coach do the work while Lebron could change the view of a coach.

That's the difference, Kawhi still consider himself as a player, unlike Lebron who fired and like to fire a coach because he chooses his coach, he seem to think that he is really the most valuable in a team.

you can read this interesting article

https://fadeawayworld.net/2019/04/13/the-lebron-curse-all-coaches-that-were-fired-while-coaching-lebron-james/

Here's the list from the article.

1) Paul Silas
2) Brendan Malone
3) Mike Brown
4) David Blatt
5) Luke Walton

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Quote from: Rosilito on June 15, 2020, 11:09:20 AM

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"LeBron is going to make sure those games [in Orlando] are played, because he knows they could have a huge impact on his legacy,"
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"He knows picking up one or two more titles is the potential tipping point, and he's determined to go for it."

Source: https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2896224-nba-exec-lebron-james-will-make-sure-nba-returns-because-it-could-impact-legacy.amp.html

Sure thing, Bron is dedicated to take the championship ring this season though. He needs to take this in to a new level before those young promising guys take over the league, his chances are getting slimmer as time passes by.

That's good news indeed.
They might be on the top but there is no reason to not play all those remaining games.
We all want to see the stars and that could gain more customers for PPV. Grin

Quote from: Finestream on June 16, 2020, 06:18:23 AM

I'm with you, Lebron is good but in terms of Leadership I like "THE CLAW" Kawhi Leonard as he is willing to take the last shot, the last season, in the playoffs and NBA finals, there's a lot of highlights we can see how Leonard carry his team, including a thrilling win over the sixers as after that win, they never struggle anymore winning the NBA Finals.

Now that's something.
I thought I am going to see comments of pure Lebron fans only. Grin

IMO, they are different when compared to leadership.
I don't see Kawhi talking a lot when it comes to crucial minutes which is the opposite of Lebron.
Kawhi will just let the coach do the work while Lebron could change the view of a coach.

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Quote from: Oasisman on June 16, 2020, 04:35:43 AM

Quote from: dwminer1 on June 16, 2020, 03:15:27 AM

Many people here consider Lakers and Clippers to be the championship favorites. A few pages earlier there was also a discussion about the rivalry of Lebron and Kawhi. See what Danny Green, guy who played with them both, says about both leaders.

https://twitter.com/Schultz_Report/status/1272689341027024899

What type of leader would you prefer in a team? Louder like LBJ or more uncommunicative like KL? Personally, I think I would choose Lebron, although his huge charisma can be a great advantage, but sometimes it can also have a bad effect on the team. Anyway, I hope to see these players compete in the conference finals.

LeBron's leadership has been proven, though what makes him put in the bad light, is that he's always surrounded with superstars. He might not be recruiting them, but some of them would love to play along with him.
Leonard on the other hand, isn't that good as a leader of the squad. He's just an excellent both offensive and defensive player, he's the best asset a team could ever had. But, If we're talking about leadership, I would also choose LeBron over Leonard.

I don't need to watch the 2 minutes video but I presume that Green will say that Lebron is the better player than Leonard since he is currently playing with Lebron now in the LA Lakers. If my personal view will count to you guys, lol... I would choose Kawhi Leonard over Lebron James as he is more clutch and can be trusted to give a win to his team, many times I've seen him take the last shot or bring the ball to score for his team in crucial times, so I would choose him over Lebron who would just pass the ball. Sorry, no offense to the Lebron fans but this is just my bias opinion.

I'm with you, Lebron is good but in terms of Leadership I like "THE CLAW" Kawhi Leonard as he is willing to take the last shot, the last season, in the playoffs and NBA finals, there's a lot of highlights we can see how Leonard carry his team, including a thrilling win over the sixers as after that win, they never struggle anymore winning the NBA Finals.

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Quote from: Rosilito on June 15, 2020, 11:09:20 AM

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It's good that this isn't compulsory but I'm sure the spirit of players that wants to play again is always there. Those that have enough savings can easily sit at their homes and watch their team compete.

I'd rather choose health but everyone doesn't have the same situation.

Definitely, man. Talk about, the spirit to play again.

I happen to stumble across this recent news from Bleacher Report:

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"LeBron is going to make sure those games [in Orlando] are played, because he knows they could have a huge impact on his legacy,"
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"He knows picking up one or two more titles is the potential tipping point, and he's determined to go for it."

Source: https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2896224-nba-exec-lebron-james-will-make-sure-nba-returns-because-it-could-impact-legacy.amp.html

Sure thing, Bron is dedicated to take the championship ring this season though. He needs to take this in to a new level before those young promising guys take over the league, his chances are getting slimmer as time passes by.

Lebron sure is determined for this season because he knows that he's taking the crown and we're all believing that it's really for him this time. I just wish him to be at his best fit while taking this risk for his goal.

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Quote from: dwminer1 on June 16, 2020, 03:15:27 AM

Many people here consider Lakers and Clippers to be the championship favorites. A few pages earlier there was also a discussion about the rivalry of Lebron and Kawhi. See what Danny Green, guy who played with them both, says about both leaders.

https://twitter.com/Schultz_Report/status/1272689341027024899

What type of leader would you prefer in a team? Louder like LBJ or more uncommunicative like KL? Personally, I think I would choose Lebron, although his huge charisma can be a great advantage, but sometimes it can also have a bad effect on the team. Anyway, I hope to see these players compete in the conference finals.

LeBron's leadership has been proven, though what makes him put in the bad light, is that he's always surrounded with superstars. He might not be recruiting them, but some of them would love to play along with him.
Leonard on the other hand, isn't that good as a leader of the squad. He's just an excellent both offensive and defensive player, he's the best asset a team could ever had. But, If we're talking about leadership, I would also choose LeBron over Leonard.

I don't need to watch the 2 minutes video but I presume that Green will say that Lebron is the better player than Leonard since he is currently playing with Lebron now in the LA Lakers. If my personal view will count to you guys, lol... I would choose Kawhi Leonard over Lebron James as he is more clutch and can be trusted to give a win to his team, many times I've seen him take the last shot or bring the ball to score for his team in crucial times, so I would choose him over Lebron who would just pass the ball. Sorry, no offense to the Lebron fans but this is just my bias opinion.

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Quote from: dwminer1 on June 16, 2020, 03:15:27 AM

Many people here consider Lakers and Clippers to be the championship favorites. A few pages earlier there was also a discussion about the rivalry of Lebron and Kawhi. See what Danny Green, guy who played with them both, says about both leaders.

https://twitter.com/Schultz_Report/status/1272689341027024899

What type of leader would you prefer in a team? Louder like LBJ or more uncommunicative like KL? Personally, I think I would choose Lebron, although his huge charisma can be a great advantage, but sometimes it can also have a bad effect on the team. Anyway, I hope to see these players compete in the conference finals.

LeBron's leadership has been proven, though what makes him put in the bad light, is that he's always surrounded with superstars. He might not be recruiting them, but some of them would love to play along with him.
Leonard on the other hand, isn't that good as a leader of the squad. He's just an excellent both offensive and defensive player, he's the best asset a team could ever had. But, If we're talking about leadership, I would also choose LeBron over Leonard.

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Quote from: dwminer1 on June 16, 2020, 03:15:27 AM

Many people here consider Lakers and Clippers to be the championship favorites. A few pages earlier there was also a discussion about the rivalry of Lebron and Kawhi. See what Danny Green, guy who played with them both, says about both leaders.

https://twitter.com/Schultz_Report/status/1272689341027024899

What type of leader would you prefer in a team? Louder like LBJ or more uncommunicative like KL? Personally, I think I would choose Lebron, although his huge charisma can be a great advantage, but sometimes it can also have a bad effect on the team. Anyway, I hope to see these players compete in the conference finals.

There's no denying that they're both good. Experience wise I'd pick Bron over Kawhi, obviously because Bron had been on different teams, and had already been involve with more and different names than Kawhi, not to mention that he has been in playoffs numerous time in which gameplays are far more intense than regular season. Though imo Bron is a better a leader but it doesn't make Kawhi any less, there's still a lot of room for him to grow.

On the other hand, I think being a good leader knows how communicate with his team very well. Unfortunately Kawhi falls short in this aspect but anyway, as mentioned by Danny Green on the video he's becoming more vocal now, and that's a good thing. Imagine Kawhi being talkative Grin

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Many people here consider Lakers and Clippers to be the championship favorites. A few pages earlier there was also a discussion about the rivalry of Lebron and Kawhi. See what Danny Green, guy who played with them both, says about both leaders.

https://twitter.com/Schultz_Report/status/1272689341027024899

What type of leader would you prefer in a team? Louder like LBJ or more uncommunicative like KL? Personally, I think I would choose Lebron, although his huge charisma can be a great advantage, but sometimes it can also have a bad effect on the team. Anyway, I hope to see these players compete in the conference finals.

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Quote from: ERKO20 on June 15, 2020, 11:25:38 AM

I bet Lakers or Clippers will be champions.

Good choice. Grin

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But let's see who will be in better shape both physically and emotionally after the global crisis.

Yeah, some of the players don't agree for continuing the season or let's say not fully confident to play when the NBA start. But yeah, who knows what will happen when the day comes.

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Pattrick Beverley definitely did it sarcastically. If Lebron James suits up, if Los Angeles Lakers which is probably one of the most profitable and most known organizations in the world comes to court and NBA will allow all the games to continue without question, if you are a player who do not want to join, you are going to be forced to forfeit part of your salary and leave it on the table and probably not even going to get that much love from fans of the team neither.

So, we agree that there is a systematic racism towards blacks in their nation and that is bad but the better idea would be to play, and play it in a way that you wear shirts with "I can't breath" once again, hell even have black and white jerseys with that sentence written on it on all games, have flags of him everywhere and basically protest as much as you can while earning millions and give that to people in need. When you look at it, playing makes more sense.

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I bet Lakers or Clippers will be champions.

But let's see who will be in better shape both physically and emotionally after the global crisis.

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Quote from: Reid on June 15, 2020, 09:46:06 AM

Quote from: Rosilito on June 15, 2020, 12:30:44 AM

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Looks like it. It feels sarcastic for me.
If it is not, then great.

He really likes to tease all star players LOL Grin

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Quote from: boyptc on June 15, 2020, 03:30:44 AM

It's good that this isn't compulsory but I'm sure the spirit of players that wants to play again is always there. Those that have enough savings can easily sit at their homes and watch their team compete.

I'd rather choose health but everyone doesn't have the same situation.

Definitely, man. Talk about, the spirit to play again.

I happen to stumble across this recent news from Bleacher Report:

Quote

"LeBron is going to make sure those games [in Orlando] are played, because he knows they could have a huge impact on his legacy,"
-
"He knows picking up one or two more titles is the potential tipping point, and he's determined to go for it."

Source: https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2896224-nba-exec-lebron-james-will-make-sure-nba-returns-because-it-could-impact-legacy.amp.html

Sure thing, Bron is dedicated to take the championship ring this season though. He needs to take this in to a new level before those young promising guys take over the league, his chances are getting slimmer as time passes by.

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