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Quote from: Reid on June 17, 2020, 06:27:21 AM

Kawhi was still young that time but he beat Lebron in their duel.

Let's reminisce the performance of Leonard last 2014 finals when spurs won.

Throwback: Kawhi Leonard Full Series Highlights vs Miami Heat (2014 NBA Finals) - Finals MVP! HD

ps: not my video

This is Leonard in his prime and guess what? he is better than before. when he leads his team to championship without the help of his past teammates. Wherever he may go, he is making his current team compete to the championship and that's what I like about Leonard. the most humble NBA player I have ever seen.

I think Leonard is on his prime when he gave a championship to the Raptors, with the Spurs I can't tell if he is their best player but I guess he is since he won a Finals MVP award and got his firt championship at the young age of 22 years old. He has a different role now with the Clippers as people are already expecting he can carry the team unlike with the Spurs where the big 3 is still active that time.

I fully agree with you. Kawhi was great in the finals with San Antonio, he defended perfectly against Lebron and he fully deserve for the MVP title. However, he was certainly not the SA leader that season. At that time, Spurs would also be championship candidates even without KL. Later in Toronto and now in LAC, his role and expectations for him are much greater.

I think Leonard was a big factor for the success of the Spurs, he is good offensively and defensively and I believe they won't become a champion without Leonard as no player in their roster could match Lebron one on one, which Leonard was so effective defending Lebron James.

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Quote from: Reid on June 17, 2020, 06:27:21 AM

The best teams - Milwaukee, LA Lakers, Toronto, LA Clippers, Boston, Denver, Utah and Miami - will be accommodated at the Gran Destino Hotel.
I think that's enough to say that the cheapest room there is $ 263 per night Cheesy

MOre about accomodation: https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1273021491844657153

$263 per head per night?
Or will they occupy a room as much as possible? Will they put bunker beds? Grin

I think that such amounts are not very worrying for NBA teams. Let's count: 100 people, 100 days x $ 263 = $2.63M. It's not even a monthly salary for the best players. Let us remember that during the normal season teams also use hotel services. And there are also travels. A flight from one end of the US to the other costs definitely much more than a hotel. So its not a big deal.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on June 17, 2020, 07:09:55 AM

EDIT: Just sew now, what a crazy news, Kyrie Irving suggests NBA players start their own league Grin

Source: https://twitter.com/SBondyNYDN/status/1273027240406798337

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2896509-kyrie-irving-reportedly-left-group-chat-after-report-of-new-league-pitch-leaked
Explained by Bondy afterward. It was just for the Brooklyn team.

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Bondy explained: "To be clear on this, Kyrie Irving has proposed to his teammates they should start their own league, and it's not necessarily in response to the bubble situation."

I think they are trying to suggest some things and Kyrie might have joked to create their own league.

But why did he left the group? Grin

He's denying the allegations. I don't mind if it's true or not.

But this is now the hard part starts for the league. The division for the decision of their players will start to crumble but at the end of the day, they have to understand that it's the league that has to be followed, not them following themselves.

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Winding down.

Telling the Clippers is already good without him when they battled GSW last year. Grin

Clippers is a more improve team this season, they don't only add Leonard in the line up, they also have Paul George.
IMO, they can compete with the Lakers or team Lebron and Davis as Clippers have a superstars too, and they have the best 6th man in the NBA which is an underrated player, I'm talking of Lou Williams, this guy is consistent, he can drop 20 or 30 points a night if PG and Leonard will both have an off night.

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Quote from: dwminer1 on June 17, 2020, 05:52:13 AM

I fully agree with you. Kawhi was great in the finals with San Antonio, he defended perfectly against Lebron and he fully deserve for the MVP title. However, he was certainly not the SA leader that season. At that time, Spurs would also be championship candidates even without KL. Later in Toronto and now in LAC, his role and expectations for him are much greater.

It's all going down to whom will be called the "GOAT" once again.
Basketball analysts says if he gets another championship in a different team then he might really be the "GOAT".

I doubt they will do that or call him that after winning another championship.
I bet they will want more from him before they could sum up whom he really is.
He's a great player. We all witnessed that. There is no question he could really put one team for a championship battle.

Will it be like that or another scapegoat will be made?
Telling the Clippers is already good without him when they battled GSW last year. Grin

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The best teams - Milwaukee, LA Lakers, Toronto, LA Clippers, Boston, Denver, Utah and Miami - will be accommodated at the Gran Destino Hotel.
I think that's enough to say that the cheapest room there is $ 263 per night Cheesy

MOre about accomodation: https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1273021491844657153

$263 per head per night?
Or will they occupy a room as much as possible? Will they put bunker beds? Grin

Quote from: freedomgo on June 17, 2020, 05:16:51 AM

EDIT: Just sew now, what a crazy news, Kyrie Irving suggests NBA players start their own league Grin

Source: https://twitter.com/SBondyNYDN/status/1273027240406798337

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2896509-kyrie-irving-reportedly-left-group-chat-after-report-of-new-league-pitch-leaked
Explained by Bondy afterward. It was just for the Brooklyn team.

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Bondy explained: "To be clear on this, Kyrie Irving has proposed to his teammates they should start their own league, and it's not necessarily in response to the bubble situation."

I think they are trying to suggest some things and Kyrie might have joked to create their own league.

But why did he left the group? Grin

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Quote from: yazher on June 17, 2020, 04:41:21 AM

Quote from: yazher on June 17, 2020, 04:41:21 AM

Kawhi was still young that time but he beat Lebron in their duel.

Let's reminisce the performance of Leonard last 2014 finals when spurs won.

Throwback: Kawhi Leonard Full Series Highlights vs Miami Heat (2014 NBA Finals) - Finals MVP! HD

ps: not my video

This is Leonard in his prime and guess what? he is better than before. when he leads his team to championship without the help of his past teammates. Wherever he may go, he is making his current team compete to the championship and that's what I like about Leonard. the most humble NBA player I have ever seen.

I think Leonard is on his prime when he gave a championship to the Raptors, with the Spurs I can't tell if he is their best player but I guess he is since he won a Finals MVP award and got his firt championship at the young age of 22 years old. He has a different role now with the Clippers as people are already expecting he can carry the team unlike with the Spurs where the big 3 is still active that time.

I fully agree with you. Kawhi was great in the finals with San Antonio, he defended perfectly against Lebron and he fully deserve for the MVP title. However, he was certainly not the SA leader that season. At that time, Spurs would also be championship candidates even without KL. Later in Toronto and now in LAC, his role and expectations for him are much greater.

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Kawhi was still young that time but he beat Lebron in their duel.

Let's reminisce the performance of Leonard last 2014 finals when spurs won.

Throwback: Kawhi Leonard Full Series Highlights vs Miami Heat (2014 NBA Finals) - Finals MVP! HD

ps: not my video

This is Leonard in his prime and guess what? he is better than before. when he leads his team to championship without the help of his past teammates. Wherever he may go, he is making his current team compete to the championship and that's what I like about Leonard. the most humble NBA player I have ever seen.

I think Leonard is on his prime when he gave a championship to the Raptors, with the Spurs I can't tell if he is their best player but I guess he is since he won a Finals MVP award and got his firt championship at the young age of 22 years old. He has a different role now with the Clippers as people are already expecting he can carry the team unlike with the Spurs where the big 3 is still active that time.

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Quote from: harizen on June 16, 2020, 06:34:18 PM

Kawhi was still young that time but he beat Lebron in their duel.

Let's reminisce the performance of Leonard last 2014 finals when spurs won.

Throwback: Kawhi Leonard Full Series Highlights vs Miami Heat (2014 NBA Finals) - Finals MVP! HD

ps: not my video

This is Leonard in his prime and guess what? he is better than before. when he leads his team to championship without the help of his past teammates. Wherever he may go, he is making his current team compete to the championship and that's what I like about Leonard. the most humble NBA player I have ever seen.

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NBA players will be coming to Disney World in late July to end the NBA season.
See in what conditions the ''poor players'' will live and train Grin

https://twitter.com/Farbod_E/status/1273022314549071876/photo/1

The best teams - Milwaukee, LA Lakers, Toronto, LA Clippers, Boston, Denver, Utah and Miami - will be accommodated at the Gran Destino Hotel.
I think that's enough to say that the cheapest room there is $ 263 per night Cheesy

MOre about accomodation: https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1273021491844657153

Source: https://www.index.hr/sport/clanak/pogledajte-u-kakvim-ce-uvjetima-zivjeti-nba-igraci-u-disney-worldu/2190994.aspx

EDIT: Just sew now, what a crazy news, Kyrie Irving suggests NBA players start their own league Grin

Source: https://twitter.com/SBondyNYDN/status/1273027240406798337

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Quote from: yazher on June 16, 2020, 09:17:57 AM

..unlike Leonard, he is one of the reasons why we know the other players in Raptors like Siakam and the others. He proved that everyone can do his own game if given chance to play well.

Not in my case. It might be those people who are just watching the finals. Raptors is always been at the top of Eastern Conference before Kawhi's arrival. They are not a team that is always left behind the Eastern Conference competition. Their players are popular so it's not about Kawhi why Siakam or others got noticed.

What I like to Kawhi is, he is really fit for the Raptors system. I mean, Raptor's core players are already good, and with Kawhi on the floor, they are even better. We have seen the improvement of Raptors' core players year by year. They always comes back as a better team after every playoff choked lol. And take note, Raptors do have a good record even Kawhi is out on the floor (load management) so let's give credits to the whole Raptors why they achieved that success. I'm also hoping that they will meet the Bucks again on the playoffs to see how they can deal with Giannis without Kawhi.

Correct. Let us also add the arrival of Nick Nurse.
They became a different Raptors team afterward.
I can still remember how bad it was with Dwane Casey.
The moment he sat down DeRozan when the offense was really needed in a win or go home playoff game tells everything.
Forgot the details but there was a lot of time on the clock, the lead of the opponent is not that far and yet he sat him down until the buzzer sound.
I don't know if he's protecting DeRozan or the management told him to, for the upcoming trade (Kawhi) but it was really a bad call.

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Quote from: chaser15 on June 16, 2020, 06:25:36 PM

Quote from: chaser15 on June 16, 2020, 06:03:38 PM

He is not the team leader on Spurs, Raptors, and Clippers but just doing his role. Kawhi is still young and he can beat the hell out of records out there, not just against Lebron but to other superstars as well.

I beg to disagree on this, Leonard might not be a Team leader on Spurs as he played most of his rookie years with the Spurs but he got his first championship with the spurs and his first Finals MVP, that says a lot to me, the only reason we don't see his leadership because he is a humble player in the court, he doesn't talk a lot, he is more action than words.

However, with the Raptors and the Clippers, I think I saw his leadership, if you saw how he played last playoffs and NBA finals, you'll see that he is the main man in the team and he is good in getting his teammates involve so they have success together.

You might have the wrong impression of being the main man, it's not always the leader. In Raptor's case, that's not the case. The one who is making plays for them is Kyle Lowry and he is the leader, not Kawhi. Since Kawhi is the main scorer, therefore Lowry will put the center of offense to him. Kawhi is not a leader but he is just doing his job to the role assigned to him. Raptors trusted him.

I know that Lowry is the captain ball of the team, but they usually give the ball to Leonard in crucial times and it seems like it's Leonard is already manning the ball most of the time. Just like Kobe Bryant role, he is not the PG of the team but once he has the ball, he can decide to shoot it or to pass it. We may have different point of view, I respect your opinion but that is my opinion too.

Quote from: asu on June 16, 2020, 06:26:34 PM

Quote from: asu on June 16, 2020, 06:26:34 PM

However, with the Raptors and the Clippers, I think I saw his leadership, if you saw how he played last playoffs and NBA finals, you'll see that he is the main man in the team and he is good in getting his teammates involve so they have success together.

In other words. Bringing the 1st fight NBA championship of the Raptors says it all.

Yes because he is not vocal but he always prove to be one of the best in the NBA, and yet he is still underrated now.
Maybe when Lebron retires, that will be his time to shine more, but I really like his consistency and his humbleness and he keeps proving he can beat any opponent who will guard and which he will guard.

Quote from: chaser15 on June 16, 2020, 06:25:36 PM

I can say as of now that they are even as in the NBA finals, When Lebron was still playing with the Heat, both met 2 times and they are 1-1 in win record.

Pretty much. However, Lebron faced a young Kawhi at that time and that's the interesting part why lots of fans love to see this rivalry.

Kawhi was still young that time but he beat Lebron in their duel.

Let's reminisce the performance of Leonard last 2014 finals when spurs won.

Throwback: Kawhi Leonard Full Series Highlights vs Miami Heat (2014 NBA Finals) - Finals MVP! HD

ps: not my video

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You might have the wrong impression of being the main man, it's not always the leader. In Raptor's case, that's not the case. The one who is making plays for them is Kyle Lowry and he is the leader, not Kawhi. Since Kawhi is the main scorer, therefore Lowry will put the center of offense to him. Kawhi is not a leader but he is just doing his job to the role assigned to him. Raptors trusted him.

A lot of people does not know the role of a player, yes Kyle Lowry is the leader as per his role, and normally a PG is the leader of the team as he is the one who makes the plays for the team, but what they are seeing is the Raptors have change when Leonard play with them and they got their first championship.

If I am just an average fan, I would also think that Leonard is the leader of the team as Raptors always messed up before Leonard arrive.

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Quote from: yazher on June 16, 2020, 09:17:57 AM

..unlike Leonard, he is one of the reasons why we know the other players in Raptors like Siakam and the others. He proved that everyone can do his own game if given chance to play well.

Not in my case. It might be those people who are just watching the finals. Raptors is always been at the top of Eastern Conference before Kawhi's arrival. They are not a team that is always left behind the Eastern Conference competition. Their players are popular so it's not about Kawhi why Siakam or others got noticed.

What I like to Kawhi is, he is really fit for the Raptors system. I mean, Raptor's core players are already good, and with Kawhi on the floor, they are even better. We have seen the improvement of Raptors' core players year by year. They always comes back as a better team after every playoff choked lol. And take note, Raptors do have a good record even Kawhi is out on the floor (load management) so let's give credits to the whole Raptors why they achieved that success. I'm also hoping that they will meet the Bucks again on the playoffs to see how they can deal with Giannis without Kawhi.

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However, with the Raptors and the Clippers, I think I saw his leadership, if you saw how he played last playoffs and NBA finals, you'll see that he is the main man in the team and he is good in getting his teammates involve so they have success together.

In other words. Bringing the 1st fight NBA championship of the Raptors says it all.

I can say as of now that they are even as in the NBA finals, When Lebron was still playing with the Heat, both met 2 times and they are 1-1 in win record.

Pretty much. However, Lebron faced a young Kawhi at that time and that's the interesting part why lots of fans love to see this rivalry.

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